*What would you buy? The Puma ST or a Honda FK8 Civic Type R?* Leave your choice/suggestions below! P.S. I don't mind people's opinions, I don't tolerate rude/bullying behaviour! If you have nothing nice/constructive to say, click off the video and don't say a word #StopCyberBullies
I’m ok with the looks of the Type R and it sounds like it’s great car to drive. I’ve a ST line X puma and I’ve been disappointed with it. I like the looks and handling but there are too many niggles for me to forgive it. UPDATE:. I’ve traded the ST line X for a full fat Puma ST and I love it!
The thing with Ford’s is no one ever actually pays the list price because Ford dealers will usually knock thousands off. I just got a quote for a Puma ST for 25k. Where as Honda will never budge especially on type R models. So really talking 6k difference....
@@slinkey123 Yes, depends on the dealer and whether you are buying cash or finance Type R is their flagship car that actually hold their value so there's no incentive for dealers to hand out discounts If you're financing, you think you're getting a deal but really it's taking away the front end depreciation and then increasing the risk of the value of the car at the end (leaving less to no positive equity in it) Thanks for watching
Just picked up a Puma St in grey matter with performance pack. Very impressed how it handles. Also the new performance seats are a lot more comfortable than the Recaros that were originally fitted.
Very nice combination, good to hear you didn't get Mean Green (a very common colour at the moment haha!) Yes indeed, the new Ford Performance seats are much better all round compared to the Recaros Thanks for watching!
I’ve just bought mean green puma st. Delivery September. Performance and assistance pack. Well under 30k 27.5k so shop around. Interesting video and informative.
Thanks for sharing Ian! Always worth using buying tools to get access to new car deals 👍🏼 Congrats on the purchase, you'll definietly won't be missed with that colour 😀
@@cwlashton They have changed it then as when I tested the car it showed on the press specification that the Performance Pack was standard They have also changed the price of 'Mean Green' too
Puma st for me, just ordered a brand new 72 plate puma st in mean green, delivery due September October time can't wait, it's a beautiful looking car, civic type r is nice too but I prefer the look of puma st especially in green, I think it's a case of each to their own preference and what you use the car for, for me it be daily driver an plenty room for picking up my kids on weekends and plenty room for my camping gear an mountain bike in the back plus it looks quirky an cool an it's plenty quick enough, great car from ford 👌👍💚🏴 greetings from morayshire Scotland 🏴👌
Congrats on the purchase, you won't be disappointed I'm sure - I imagine September/October currently seems like a lifetime away! 🙈 Thank you for your positive/polite opinion and of course spending the time to watch the video, all the best John 👍
Great video, like the talk to camera whilst driving 👍 completely agree about the steering, way to vague when pushing on but overall a nice car, not sure If I’d have the fk8 as I’ve never driven one, I imagine the Honda would be more reliable in the long run though. Hard choice 🤷♂️
just picked up the mean green with the performance pack 4 days ago love it ,got £18750 trade in for my 2020 puma st line x (16000 miles) so yes oh yes 😲😲
Depending on the car you currently own that'd be a better way to compare it For me, I found it bouncy at low speeds but more rewarding at higher speeds I.e. B Roads and dual carriageways Best way is to trst drive one, ride comfort I find is a individual preference - you'll have my opinion of it and then another journalist/reviewer will praise it as Roll Royce quality 🤣 As for MPG, 35-40mpg is a fair representation to real world figures I got, again depends on the right foot Hope this helps, I actually have a facelift Fiesta ST this week so I'll factor in the ride and fuel again for reference Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏼
Yo yo. Nice review! As for the car, I’m still not sure I see the point of it 🙈 I think I’d rather have a Focus ST estate if I wanted a bit more boot space.
Thanks Gary, appericate you watching and sharing feedback 👍🏼 Exactly why, crossovers make no sense 🤣🙈 It's amazing to see the difference in response I'm getting from ST Line to ST videos
Hi just seen this video again git a st line x on order but can't help thinking I will miss the power of the st as I have a mk8 st2 .also I know you hate the steering but did you find the steering a little lighter on the puma st compered to the fiesta mk8 st steering and the puma st steering lock is about the same as the fiesta
It's been a while since I tested the Puma ST, but personally I'd safely say there isn't a noticeable difference between the two especially when they are both sharing the same platform
Congrats Tommo on the purchase! I'd argue the third seat in the Puma is pointless but if you have three kids or smaller adults in the back, it shouldn't be an issue Thanks for watching & commenting 🙌
Currently in the UK, a fully specced ST3 5 door is £28,510 and the Puma is near £32,000 so around a £3,500 difference From memory, the ST Line X i tested last year was a £5,000+ difference over a Fiesta ST Line A crazy world we live in! Thanks for watching and commenting 👍
I've got a st2 fiesta st with performance pack love it but the puma is growing on me didn't like it to start with great video. Ps I know what you mean about the steering
Thank god, I'm not the only one that has a problem with the steering feel 🙈 ... Thanks for watching and sharing your feedback Andrew, consider subscribing to support 'PocketRockets', there will be more Ford content coming in the next few months 👍
Puma ST Andrew for me, the engine and drive train platform bring the car to life (much more than the ST Line) but that is to be expected Problem is the price difference is insane so your question is a tricky one to answer 🙈 But if money was no object then yes the Puma ST is one I'd have Thanks for watching and commenting, all the best 👍🏼
@@PocketRockets I've got a mk8 st2 at the moment with the performance pack .but I need a little more room as we have the dog a our first baby one the way I've driven both now and its hard to choose st line will be cheaper
ST Line will be cheaper to run, correct but you'll miss the power, torque and cornering that you get your ST, wouldn't bother you'd be going backwards I'd say shop around on the market, test drive other competitors like the Kona N, VW T Roc R etc much more powerful rivals with loads more refinement If you didn't already have a Fiesta ST I would recommend the Puma ST, a shame the Puma ST could of come with some unique parts to make it stand out away from the Fiesta ST in my opinion
Most cars that adopt a three seat configuration tend to be rubbish from my experience, usually thanks to the transmission tunnel eating legroom Either FK8 or Puma ST is perfect for a small family, two adults in the front and two kids in the back easy 👍 Thanks for watching and commenting Tommo!
Nearer to £34k plus this just shows the Puma can't compete in this price bracket 1. Puma's boot is only 36 litres bigger (that's more because of the extra mega box) 2. Type R is more powerful 3. Type R is more comfortable, has adaptive suspension to suit most driving conditions 4. Type R handles better, even on 20" alloys 5. I'd argue there's more practicality especially in the rear So, yes I'd still have a Type R over a Puma ST; but each to their own Thanks for watching Andrew
