I absolutely dig this setup. I picked mine up in July and couldn't be happier with it. I love the grunting sounds that the 3.0 makes when it's under a little load. It's music to my ears and could listen to it all day, but I also got to spend time with my dad when I was much younger traveling with him in his Kenworth with a 3406 Caterpillar and loved the sound that it made. There's just something special about the sound of an inline 6 diesel.
Glad i found your channel. I bought my 21 Sierra SLT 3.0 yesterday and your channel had some help for me making that decision. Hopefully it a good one for me. Keep up the good work.
I love my 3.0. I pull a lot of trailers and she pulls like my 2500 with the 6.6. Just not as much weight. My camper is 7500 lbs and I can hardly feel it back there. GM did good on this one.
Great video sir!! I leased a 2021 GMC SLE 1500 CREW with 5'8" bed and it had that fancy tail gate. Here is my take....after 5k miles i sold the lease. Truck had a phenomenal powertrain. Best i ever drove in any pickup except for a 96 ram dually with 5.9 Cummins. Very comfortable truck. It had a 1775 payload. Back seat was enormous. Things i didn't care for: In the shop for six weeks for cooling fluid control valve. After that no issues but dam i lost essentially two months of lease use! Moreover i hated the handling in my gm. It rolled around corners like a big old couch. Way too soft ride for me. Now gm may fix this as you can FINALLY order these trucks with Max Tow. The powertrain is so capable they should offer this in a 7850 GVWR like Ford does worh HDPP. Anyhow since it was a lease i wasn't willing to upgrade suspension to address the body roll. Things that were my fault...i didnt like the tiny bed. Next truck will be a crew but i need a 6'5" bed. Also i realized that i would prefer a center counsel for storage. I never thought i would like that but i didnt have it on this truck and wish i did. The multi pro tailgate is cool! But if you carry mulch and gravel and stuff like me the materials work their way into hinge openings and my tailgate rattled like crazy from small stones getting in there and moving around. I wont get a multi pro again. I didnt care for over the hood visibility compared to 2021 ford f150 or ram 1500. The hood design was not my favorite. The last thing for all you buyers.... my gm averaged only 24.7. I drive very slow like an old fart. Never got better than 28. I think the chevy front end is much more aerodynamic so i would go that route for sure. Guys with chevy 3.0s said they faired much better on highway mpgs. Would i get another 3.0? You bet. But only IF i could order a chevy 1500 with the max tow and lower trim level and thus heavier suspension and a higher numerical axle ratio for powertrain longevity and maybe hit a 2000 pound payload capacity. Having said all that i am driving a phenomenal 2004 Ford Ranger until 2024 to see if prices stabilize. If Ford offers a hybrid 150 with the heavy duty payload package option and thus an honest 2500 or higher payload that will be the next truck i spend money on. Otherwise the big three can watch me drive past their dealerships with this old ranger in perfect condition. It has the BFT package and 4.0 in extended cab. The BFT gives you 4.10 gears front and rear and it pulls like a wild man. But it rides like a dumptruck and only gets 15 to 19 mpgs! But my friends it is paid for! God bless and lets pray for those in the war that our leaders wake up and grow spines. I am ready to go. Our forefathers taught us to love freedom more than cheap gas and to even love freedom more than life itself. .
Hi Dave! Thank you so much for your videos. The information that I have received from you, General Motors Jeff, Truck and SUV talk, TFL truck among others have led me to ordering (about 1 month ago) a refreshed 2022 Carbon Pro AT4 3.0 Duramax in Dynamic Blue Metallic here in Colorado Springs, Colorado! I can't wait to take delivery of her!
I did the exact same thing. Watched the hell out of all of those guys and some people about this engine. I'm moving from a black 2018 LTZ with a 6.2L and put the order in on a refreshed white RST with the 3.0 on the weekend. (I have had so many black vehicles, god I love them but I HATE how they look dirty 10 min after you clean them). My 6.2 does about 12-14 MPG in the city if I absolutely baby it. That new interior looks so damn awesome. I plan on keeping this truck for as long as it wants me. The only draw back is that my commute isn't super long but I do enough driving around the city in the evenings and weekends that the regen issue shouldnt be all that bad I'm hoping. I also know my dad is big time against the oil pump drive belt. Meh big deal. 241,000 km before they say to inspect the belt. Not even to replace it.
I picked up a 20' 2.7T double cab in December of 2021. Diesel is expensive here (roughly 60cents more than 87). As you mentioned the truck has everything it needs and not anything more. I looked at the denali variant, but couldn't justify the price tag over what more or less you get. I don't tow as much as some do, so the 2.7T has been great for my needs. (8spd) What sold me was the ride quality, interior that isn't too overwhelming, Drive selection on teh wheel, and how comfortable it is for a 6'2" gentlemen. I came from a Subaru Outback, so it was a nice step up. I'm excited for remodel of the Sierras later this year.
I have that same noise you are referring to when I back out of the garage. I'll look into this with the dealership the next time I take it in for an oil change. I recently had my first problem at 5,000 miles took it to the dealer and they had to remove my DEF tank due to a connector that wasn't snapped together properly.
I have this engine in my truck. I absolutely love it. I have a crew cab with a 6.5 foot box. I got a tip for you. If you have a truck stop with DEF at the pump it will save you a bit of money. I paid $2.09/gal at the pump. The best thing i find getting it at the truck stop is the DEF is always fresh and the looks you get when you drive a pick up to a DEF pump. You will get some sweet looks from the truckers haha. You will get asked about your truck.
It’s so wild but I cannot for for the life of me find a DEF pump available at any local truck stops that aren’t over 30 minutes away. That said there is a Flying J on my way to and from work in Maryland that’s bound to have pump DEF. I’ll check it out.
Glad you like your truck! I wanted one but I just didn't like the interior at all. I went with RAM and I'm at 41,000 miles and never been to the dealer once so it's been a great truck. I love the look of your truck, very nice.
I’ll definitely admit the interior is outdated but I didn’t really care much since I just wanted the diesel, 10-speed, and brake controller. Glad you’re enjoying the ram! I love the electric blue color they sell them in and was considering the eco diesel but couldn’t find one in my price range and hard for me to start from GM…haha
Like your LM2 content Dave. You remind me a lot of another RU-vid creator. I'm sure you hear that a lot. You seem like a good dude and probably a solid drinking buddy if you were into drinking. Anyway just wanted to let you know I went through your full list of Sierra Duramax content. I have one on order. No ETA on delivery but I have been in the market for over 3 years so what's a few more months? Dealer salesman tells me he thinks 3-4 months but I don't think anyone really knows.
Very good info! Thanks for the videos.. I'm currently driving a 2020 HD, 6.6 gaser, and with the price of gas these days, I need to make a switch. The 3.0 seems like a good fit
Maaaan I’d love to have the 6.6 but I drive waaaaay too much unloaded. If you’re a heavy long distance tow’er then Id stick with the big boy but of you’re pulling sub 10k lbs then the 3.0 is money in the bank! Thanks for watching!!!
Good review and glad the truck is holding up, I am trading in my 2021 GMC HD3500 AT4 in for a 2023 1500 AT4, since I no longer have the 5th wheel and I do not need a truck this big, going for the smaller more efficient 3.0 liter diesel
Good video. Looking at a 2021 White Elevation X31 with the 3.0 litre diesel. Has the cool black wheels and black emblems. Just drove it at the dealership a few hours ago with the wife. I'll decide by Monday. By the way I'm a Pontiac guy too. Restoring a tri-power 4 speed 1966 GTO right now. Thanks for the video.
I absolutely love my truck. I just installed a S&B intake and it sounds sooo good. I highly recommend getting a banks power data monster so you can monitor regens
Do you also do your own diff fluid service? I haven't been able to find out what type of gear oil the rear diff uses. Manual just says "consult dealership" which doesn't sit right with me for a consumable fluid
I have an AT4 with the baby duramax. This thing is awesome. Even with aggressive treads we still average 8.5 L/100 in the summer. Up around 10 in the winter. My only gripe is that ours is plagued with the random no start issue. Back in august-Oct it was doing it at least once every two weeks. Dealership won’t touch it because it doesn’t happen to them. Touch wood it hasn’t happened in a few months.
I bought a new 2021 seirra 3.0 duramax 3 weeks ago. I have had no issues yet. The dealer filled it when we picked it up. Just had to put fuel in it. 400 miles and it was just under half. All of the miles were city.
@Dark farts being new doesn't always mean good. I bought a new 18' challenger the dealer had to repaint the door before i could have it, cause it was messed up and no one was smart enough to see it till then. I also bought a new cavalier many years ago and once again the dealer had to replace the whole dash it was warped or something, and they didn't see it till i got it.
I have 34,000 miles on mine and at around 25,000 the engine light came on and they checked the code and it was a Def system issue . So they finally worked on it and ever since then my MPG is Terrible . I use to get 21 in the city ,Now I only get 16 mpg. Since there is no codes I cant get it fixed and I have decided to trade it for a 6.6 diesel. But besides that issue the 3.0 was fine before the dealer did what ever they did .
I appreciate your videos about it. I recently got this truck and have had it for a couple weeks, I have had a bad cooling valve that turns the engine light on every once in awhile and am currently waiting on the part from the dealer. But my question is when I’m driving usually from stops and acceleration there is a clicking noise from the bottom right front of the truck. I’ve been thinking it’s something to do with the transmission finding gears but idk if it’s a normal sound or if I have something wrong. Have you had anything like that?
Hey man nice video , i just traded my ram 1500 in for a 2022 silverado 3.0 rst, really excited to see it, unfortunately somehow in my city they all want you to order and wait a year so i bought it from out of town and it will be delivered to me !
I do appreciate this video; I wanted to listen in, as I'm 12 months away from trading in my 2020 GMC Elevation Crew 2.7 T; And I'm interested in hearing from actual owners of a Duramax 1500; But the spike in Diesel cost has lessened that pursuit? I have managed to capture 34 MPG's in my 2.7 T; And still shows on my dash "Best MPG's 34" I did this from Key Largo, Fla to Big Pine Key, Fla. Avg speed 45-48 mph. I live in a pretty dense city Miami, Fla and I manage 18-19 city but at times I get 21-22 mpg's. I have yet to have an issue with the motor or 8 spd trans at 18K miles. I have now towed 7,000 miles with it. My recent tow in my new upgraded RV travel Trailer was 960 miles; Total weight RV & Payload 6,010 LBS (Imagine XLS 22mle) The truck handled it with no issues and mpg's 10.9 -11.1 at speeds of 62-64 mph. I came across you, me trying to find 1500 Duramax owners and perhaps towing on a regular basis. I'm looking to travel over to the West of the country and want to stay in a half ton as a daily driver. And in Colorado, Utah, etc. ..I'm going to need power for high elevation for a long period of time. But since the major spike in Diesel prices I'm not sure if the trade off is worth it? "Yes I supposedly passed my 80% of tow & Paylod ratio. But in early 2021 GM came back and said that the 2.7L could be declared to handle 9K towing capcaity, So I went with a lower number 80% of 7500 lbs..
I’m a big advocate of not fixing what isn’t broken. If the 2.7L Turbo 4 is working for you then I’d stay with it! A friend of mine has that exact GMC combo and he loves it. If it’s working for you then keep on rocking it!
Chris in Lockport NY. Looking to get a 2024 Silverado or sierra and was debating the 6.2 liter gas motor or the 3.0 liter diesel. Would love to get your thoughts.
I'm stumped I drive like 95% highway and going about 75mph and only getting 21mpg. Well thats what the truck is saying. I'm gonna have to actually check next fill up.
My main concern would be with the 10 speed transmission. If there is a class action lawsuit then hopefully GM gets the message that they need to improve it..
Was seriously thinking about the Diesel but ended up getting the 2022 Elevation X31 Off Road package with the 5.3 V8. Picked it up a few weeks ago and I absolutely love this thing. I don’t do much high mileage driving maybe the occasional road trip so the V8 works for me. I was very surprised of the mileage I am getting so far with a mix of highway and city. Mine has the DFM feature on the engine so this V8 performs amazingly when it comes to mileage. Looks like about 400-450 miles to a tank. Probably pushing 500 miles if only highway miles. And the power is way more than I need. This thing has some serious pull. The newer 2022 elevation comes with the multipro tailgate which is really useful. And with the preferred package you get the premium Bose stereo system and rear electric window. Being the middle trim you get more than enough features plus some. Never been more satisfied with a vehicle purchase in my 20 years of driving.
Mine was great too until I had a lifter failure. I have a two year lease but once it's over, I am gone to another brand without cylinder deactivation. Loved my truck as much as you prior to that!
I really enjoy your videos Dave! I’ve been struggling with the idea of buying a new 3.0 truck but feel like there’s too many unknowns yet. I’m concerned about the longevity of these engines (too new to get any stories of life estimates). Also, how are you able to perform your own maintenance without voiding your warranty? Some manufacturers require ASE certified mechanics or the dealership. Thanks!
They cannot force you to use them or void the warranty. I make sure I use GM parts wherever possible but I keep receipts and the burden of proof is on the dealership to show what the issue is and prove it was something you did. Most of the time there isn’t a direct correlation to something like an oil change and why a sensor went bad or that a wire is pinched. I do understand folks reservations to doing maintenance because there are a LOT of crooked dealerships out there. It’s part of the reason I’d rather do my own work honestly
The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act is a US Federal law, which specifically stipulates that the manufacturer may not require anyone to have maintenance done by the dealer. They can not void your warranty for doing your own maintenance. The cool thing is, if they tried, you'd have the government on your side. Just keep records of everything you do, keep receipts if possible. I often order oil and filters from Amazon, if they have the best price. That makes it a simple to pull up records of past purchases.
Never plugged it in and have yet to have an issue. In NJ where I’m at it rarely gets cold enough to think about plugging in but I believe GM recommends to NOT use the block heater above 0F anyway. On really cold days it sounds a little “diesel-y” starting up but quickly quiets back down and stays there.
I just picked up my 22’ GMC with the 3.0 diesel and I absolutely love mine as well. I heard you mention a heated steering wheel and I don’t recall having that button anywhere. Where is the button located so that I can see if mine has it? Thank you in advance!
Would be on the left side of the steering wheel, unless you have super cruise, in which case it would be located under the driver side heated seat button
Considering this truck with either 5.3 V8 or the diesel. What's it like owning a diesel? How often do you fill the DEF? I live in northern MN, often way below zero. Starting?
I love the diesel…it was my first and frankly not much different than owning the gas engines. Tows extremely well and has a great ride for my insane commute. While I do not get below zero where I’m at I’ve never had a starting issue or diesel gelling issue. As far as def refill - I’m putting over 1000 a week on her and I think I’m refilling the DEF 2.5 gal at a time at about 2.5-3 week intervals so about 2500-3000 miles I’m dumping in 2.5 gallons. So for a more normal driver maybe once every month?? For your case it does come with a block heater but I will never use it since it will never get cold enough.
How much $$$ did the dealer charge to fix the TSB issue in the rear suspension? And what is this update on the oil pump belt that you mentioned at the end of the video?
Haven’t gotten it fixed. If it’s a warranty issue it’s free of course. When the oil pump belt goes after 150k miles I’ll be fixing it in my garage! Will video it for y’all
im thinking about one of those quite seriously so thanks for the info. just been a little scared of the no start issue due to the bending of the wheel on the right cam i beleive it was???
I’m hoping for the folks that have experienced this the later models will have that solved. Knock on wood my truck has been very good to me. Worst case you have the factory warranty to cover you but I do realize it’s a real hassle for a new vehicle that you’re buying so it doesn’t have problems. I feel like most of them don’t have issues, but the very vocal few overshadow that and they do have a right to complain. As a result though it skews peoples perspectives.
My 3.0 Silverado RST was built 02/21 and I have (maybe not anymore) the crank/no start issue. Last week I had it in the shop for an oil change ($128). They updated the software that's suppose to address the no start issue. I was averaging once a week. So far no repeats. I have noticed that it seems to crank longer before the engine starts. I too love this truck. My best mileage on a County Highway at 60 mph was 39.3.
Is it kinda like a squeaking noise that u hear? If it is it’s probably the leaf springs, they have some spacers those cause the noise. I took my 2019 back when it had 13-14 thousand miles to the dealer they didn’t have a recall but many customers had the same issue and they fixed it for free, a thousand miles after it started squeaking again but it was less noisy and not as loud, i just sprayed wd40 in between all the leaf springs and everything that I thought could cause the noise, had to do that a couple of times.
If you still have this issue there is a product on the market called “Spring Thing” that goes between the leafs and stops the clanking noise. I just installed them on my 2023 GMC Sierra SLT.
I’m about to pick up an Elevation with the X31 package with the Duramax tomorrow. Just curious what’s it cost you for an oil change if you take it in to shop? And have u had any of the (crank no starts)
Sir honestly you are getting 600 miles a tank ? If so I will look at one that's 965km, also how much does it cost to do the dif and how often do you need too ?
For 99% of the time the truck has everything you need to get the job done. There has been the rare occurrence where surrounding traffic has been extremely aggressive (passing at well over 85) where I’ve acknowledged that this truck (and most trucks in general) just can’t and shouldn’t be. Hypothetically if you were cruising along at 85 mph and wanted to get past a long string of cars, you can mash it and get it done but you will notice that it doesn’t blow your socks off. If you had to do it at a lower speed like 50, it’s a totally different experience. For me it’s an all around awesome truck and would buy it again if given the opportunity.
Yea know what you mean, I bought the new Dacia Sandero with the 1.6l diesel and it just doesn’t have the same passing power as the new C8 corvette, really disappointed.😂
I'm thinking about buying a Chevy silverado duramax 3.0. I have taken one out for a test drive the other day and was very impressed with the truck. I will be doing my own oil change as will but I will be using Amsoil. I love that product.
The little beast is gettin a redo for 23. I read, but cant find it now, that the 23 redo also included a GM diesel first and will include cylinder deactivation. So considering the DFM troubles with the 6.2 and more so the 5.3 gas engines the LM2 3 liter is becoming sought after. The article was in MotorTrend but i cant find it now. Anyone?
I just got mine last Saturday and I did notice a smell when I had the heater on diesel ish smell when it was 25 degrees outside. Not sure if it’s just normal stuff burning off the engine or not.
@@j_mm1084 I got mine in the summer and did not smell anything. When the outside temp dropped colder like 30-40, the cold start smell is awful. I did some research and found that the engine control has smart way to heating the engine quickly by redirecting exhaust gas backward and seems like doing that is causing the exhaust gas to leak into the engine compartment, and the fresh air vent under the hood near the windshields is sucking that smell into the cabin. Well my dealer did a smoke test and said they had to replace the leaky def injector and the clamp, that did help a lot with the smell. But The truck still have other leaks somewhere which is still causing some smelly air into the cabin. The recycle air mode does seem to be able to lockout the outside air completely. It’s been a headache since my family can’t endure the smell. As the engine heats up, the smell went away. I got another leak somewhere but the dealer does seem to be able to find it. I like the truck, but got to let it go if this continues and may be risking my health, it’s not safe to breath in exhaust fumes
@@DuyNguyen-sr1kl dang I hope this isn’t a problem down the road. And yes breathing diesel fumes is definitely not something we should be ok with thanks for the response I thought it was just me lol I’ll be taking a trip to the dealer soon
I brought my truck in 2nd time 2/15, gmc did a smoke test again and found the exhaust leak again. said the leak is in the cat converter. Part is on back order for 3 months
Depending on where you live, Walmart is gent the cheapest. Tractor Supply is usually pretty good but don’t buy the name brand stuff like Blue Def it’s all the same stuff as long ad it’s in shelf life
Did you ever figure out what the clunking in the rear was while backing up? I have my 22 elevation 3.0L Duramax at a dealer, and they are having troubles diagnosing it currently
My understanding is very little. The towing improvements stem from the improved chassis stiffness where 2wd max towing is 13k pounds. I’ll do some additional research however to see if anything else changed.
Coming from the auto industry as a mechanic and I don’t know why no one is honest about this but just a fyi the true and primary reason for 0-winter and low weight oils ie the 20 being the viscosity but anyways it’s because of how most people start the cars and run their engines straight on the highway without allowing the engine to warm up which cause extra damage over time it’s not tolerances it’s for bad owners for lack of a better term
Question?? I bought the 75k miles warranty, but i like to do my own maintenance. Do i have to take it to gmc for maintenance or it will void my warranty.? TIA
It’s a crap shoot honestly. Some dealers have no issue with it while others are so stringent they will void anything so you don’t get paid. As long as you have good records generally the dealer ships are ok.
My 2021 3.0 has been a nightmare so far. 5 trips and counting to fix the damn emissions, other than that not a bad truck. Hopefully GM will figure it out I am getting tired of them having the truck more than I do.
Geez, what’s it been doing? So wild how there’s rarely a middle ground with these things. When they are good, they’re great but man when something is wrong it’s really wrong! Sorry for your misfortune.
@@BanditDavesToyChest DPF readings go from 70% to 1% without regening, then goes into limp mode, cooling fans come on when it's minus -20C and won't shut off, almost overheats on the hiway, hangs in lower gears sometimes, shall I go on...LOL I told the dealer I am tired of the the old "we can't pinpoint the issue but if your check engine light comes on again bring it back" I purchased a Banks Data Monster so I could see what is going on and log it.
My friend just got rid of his after barely a year. 5 times during the fall/winter it wouldn't start, both headlights have been replaced due to faulty LEDs. I was really considering getting one until his issues and all of the other horror stories I've read about modern diesels.
I am patiently waiting for the refreshed 2022 AT4, not the AT4X one. I want it with the duramax in satin steel metallic. Excellent review and thanks for sharing your thoughts.
AutoZone states mobile 1 dexoso D when you ask them. I called the dealer to verify. They said it would void my warranty. The guy at the dealership gave me AutoZone price for the ac delco. Paid 81.99 for 7 quarts with filter.
I have a Silverado 2021 with the duramax and I can’t get any better than 21 mpg. When I bought it I was expecting to do much better than that. Little disappointed. What am I doing wrong here?
Agreed but the oil I used is the same oil recommended by GM for the I4 diesel in the colorados so I felt comfortable with the “gamble”. I do agree with you though that you have to do your research before just grabbing something off the shelf.
Sorry for missing this, so I can say this….since the torque comes in so early with this engine it feels relatively effortlessly to pull ~7K lbs. while I cannot compare it to a current 5.3L I cam say it tows much better than my 2012 5.3 Silverado and that truck was very capable. The truck feels very stable and confident when towing within its capabilities.
1830lbs payload and 9300 lbs towing. That Diesel engine does limit payload and towing because it eats up so much weight but it does tow beautifully with great mpg…I averaged 18 mpg last time I towed
With excessive higher miles traveled,how do you deal with rapid depreciation?Also how do you stay ahead of inflation on the cost of new replacement vehicle? Sounds to me cost of ownership must be high for high rapid miles put on
If you’re looking to get rid of the truck after a few years then you’d be rolling the dice against the car maintaining high value. For instance, I got a call when I was at 20k miles to trade my truck in for higher than what I paid. I got this truck to keep. I really love it and I’m planning on giving you guys the 150k belt replacement video when I get there in a day or two…lol well…maybe in 3-4 years. Thanks for watching!
I’ve been either really lucky or folks are stuck listening to the vocal minority of people who take to the internet to complain….and of course they have the right to be upset about a new vehicle with problems. Unfortunately the disparity happens quickly because most folks are quick to complain but never praise because they’re out driving the thing and making money. I’m just trying to bring a little light to the darkside 👍🏻
What would you like to know? I’m not going to repeat the same details over and over in every video I do. Makes no sense - engine doesn’t leak, hasn’t had any crank no start issues, runs like a top and gets killer mileage even when towing. What else?
If it’s vintage I’m not sure you’d want to have it exposed, but assuming you wrapped it up well, your pallet of pr0n should be able to get there with ease using this truck.
It’s funny, because when I watch the video I see the occasional glance at the camera that is suction cupped to the window and I’m driving hands free. Do you use your phone while driving over the blue tooth? I.e hands free? I’m giving real world experience on this from an average guy who isn’t paid to do this. If what I’m doing makes you uncomfortable then you can definitely choose other folks to watch who pass on similar info. Haven’t had an issue this far with my driving record so I think I’m doing something right. Appreciate you watching regardless!
