Thanks Mark for going the extra to have the e-CVT in this fully described/explained. So many people just hear CVT and assume it will be as crap as the worst CVT’s they’ve ever driven and immediately write the car off.
This is a really well thought out car. Not as in your face as the previous model and now looks very smart. I would have one over any German brand as it will be more reliable, better built and engineered. Every time I watch one of your videos you seem to have grown a bit taller. Maybe last week you could have sat comfortably in the Honda. 😁
I was going to get a 2022 Insight in the US but now I think I'll wait for the 2023 Civic Hybrid that's coming to replace it. One of the biggest gripes reviewers have had with the Insight's hybrid set up is the engine not being linear with vehicle speed and acceleration. This Civic sounds quieter and more "normal".
Interesting to hear that you think it looks a bit bland and you preferred the look of the old model (which I own). Most reviewers did not like the old one with "all its fake vents" and prefer the new smoothed version. Proves you can't please all the people all of the time. I like both. Thanks for a good review.
Sorry for my poor english, i just want to say : i have bought my Honda Jazz eHEV last year and after 9 800km my average is 3,6l/100km. This eHEV technology is just amazing. I precise that before i have always drove japanese cars. 2 Nissan Micra : a one liter Micra Lagoon, then a 1,3 liter Micra Tivoli and just before the Jazz a Toyota Avensis 126d4d. Now i know, i will stay a Honda driver. In France the garantee is for 10 year. I don't know the word for "valable".
@@KRISPHIL68 Meanwhile, I have been a user of the CR-V Hybrid for 2 years, which in terms of power and torque has exactly the same system as the new Civic and it is great. The calculated average fuel consumption for 2 years is 5.3l / 100km, and the car is much heavier and less streamlined. One Honda, only Honda.
I had the same dilemma. But if you try one and then the other there's no competition. Unless you need to drive only inside a city, Civic is a lot better and versatile car.
I got to test drive the advance trim level here in Sweden a couple of weeks ago. And it was really, really good. Fels like a bigger car than it is. Ordered the advance trim and it should arrive in november. Can’t wait!!
Excellent review and road test. I've had my 10 gen Turbo for five years and still love it. We have recently bought the new Jazz eHEV which uses the same hybrid system and its incredible, love the transmission in the way it replicates gear changes, we're getting around 3.9 litres per 100km mixed driving. In terms of styling, yes they've toned it down somewhat but I love the geneneral stance and proportions, the bonnet line in particular. That considered, I'll be taking a closer look at this when it arrives in New Zealand.
It may different in your country. In Canada, this car doesn’t come in a hybrid, only the same engine options as the 10th so maybe not worth trading in yet. Edit: we will get hybrid for 2023 model year.
Brilliant review . I’m sure the toned down styling will appeal to my generation who loved the Accord Mk 1 back in the seventies. A car which was truly revolutionary !
Great review! This sure seems like one of the best cars ever made. May be picking one up later this year! I wish you had the engineers talk about the new 2.0, apparently it’s the most efficient 4 cylinder ever!
Bet it's not as efficient as my 2.0L e skyactiv x, I get 50mpg on shorter drives and well over 60mpg on any half decent run and yes I did say 2 litre petrol engine. test drive one before you make your mind up you will be very impressed also the interior quality from Mazda is better than a Honda.
@@pillred5974 i have a Mazda 6 right now and have tested a Mazda 3 and i have to agree that the interior is more luxurious but more cramped with smaller windows. But in Europe there is very harsh rules against ICE engines unfortunately. I consider this civic because its a hybrid. I do love me a Mazda!
The Civic Hybrid is coming to America where I live. IMO, the only way that Honda could disappoint me with the hybrid is if they don't give us a hatchback hybrid or if the hypothetical hatch hybrid has less options than the hypothetical sedan hybrid.
My current e-CVT Honda Jazz has been using this 'gearbox' for the past year. It really such a pleasant drive for the every-day person and mine offers fuel economy of 55mpg
I didn't mind the 10th Gen civic except the rear was a bit fussy in the bumper area.. This 11th gen looks neat though some may find it bland from the side.. But that rear headroom is a concern even without the sunroof..
Best review! Cheeky, but good with proper though “bewinked” info on interior and blandness. I actually like the functional and boring but well built well thought through character of the car. This is a literal daily driver for years, nu fuss, no bs. Boring on the outside, happy in your wallet and always ready for adventure, the ones you do yourself by going places. With a car that constantly says yes!
Civic owner for 14 years, currently a 10th gen Sport Plus for the last 5 years, which I love and cost £23k new. Whilst there's a few added specs and improved mpg, there's zero chance I'll be buying this version, which is boring to look at and ridiculously expensive. Great review though, thanks!
Well that may be the last one you will ever have. The next Civic is probably only going to be EV. The new Emission regulations is changing car manufacturers, necessitating electrification on majority of their models. The only ICE models like type R are going to be very expensive.
@@debendragurung3033 I completely agree, and I am open to an electric car in the future - potentially a Civic. But, I'm sadly not a fan of this version's looks or price. Hopefully the price of electric models will reduce in the coming years as they become more mass produced.
Seems like a good upgrade. I'm currently in the 10th gen. Still a great car. I do agree with the styling though, I think they had to many complaints of it being overstyled so now they gone one too far..I blame those people shouting to loudly. Great review.
Got the current honda civic sport great car paid 21k 2018 they now want 30k for the same hybrid only car they are having a laugh new car prices are crazy.
Hybrids in general are more expensive, they have lithium ion batteries and motors with alot of copper which is expensive, the fact that this drives great despite being a hybrid is impressive
I like the ‘plainer’ design. I owned a 2017 1.5 model and it had too much bling and tacky plastic false vents on the outside, also it wasn’t very well built both outside and inside.
Two test drives of this Civic, I've ordered one. Things which will surprise you, it is very quick off the line, I have a 280bhp 4x4 and this Civic's instant torque easily matches it up to 30mph, it is brilliant for driving in cities. I got 66 mpg driving normally across a city. If you first get in one you may get poor mpg because the battery needs to charge, once you have charge in the battery after braking etc you will get very good mpg. The tech is brilliant, wireless charging and Apple Carplay is very useful. The steering is awesome for a family car, you will love it.
I really wish we had this in the states. Everything is about gas or electric. The Honda Hatchback here is only gasoline. It's disgusting especially with gas prices at an all time high.
tests with vbox, racelogic etc. show this car’s 0-100km/h speed is actually around 7 seconds dead, this is fairly typical of Japanese manufacturers to understate horsepower and acceleration figures. One thing, Honda cut weight out of some parts but it’s over 100kg heavier than the 10th gen 1.5 turbo, this will be due to the added motors and battery
Great review - hit all the important points! Steering feel & ride comfort are both good, only the noise insulation needs some improvement -- maybe during facelift?
I want Honda to have a small car from the civic 2008 design. That design was so slick, the civic just keeps getting bigger, is it even a hatchback anymore?
Feels like having “scared the horses” with the previous gen design they have over compensated with this, both inside and out - All a bit vanilla, and as for the floating display, well very last year …
How tall are you? Is the room in the front enough even with the panoramic sunroof for a 6.3-193cm? The problem is that you can t get the up per trim without it.
Seems crazy to me the amount of effort manufacturers go to to try to convince people they're driving an ancient, inefficient transmission vehicle instead of the engineering miracle it actually is.
Wait, so it's the same old Honda 1-speed hybrid set up, where the car is mostly just an EV, with engine there to generate electricity as needed, PLUS a clutch to connect the engine to the output shaft at low-load, high-speed conditions (e.g. highway driving). If so, then the only change is software tuning to align the engine rev to speed better. I mean, if you really wanted a good gas mileage (hybrid) with actual direct engine-to-speed connection, you can always get a Hyundai/Kia hybrid setup with actual dual-clutch transmission, but you lose the simpler mechanics of more common hybrids. As for Civic in general, the one I really want is the 2.0L Hatchback with manual transmission, because, no turbo, no direct injection, and of course, manual transmission.
We better not get the shafted version here in the states. For instance, I see rear air vents. Very useful in the hellish climate of Texas. So far I've not seen them in any reviews on US spec cars.
I have Gen 10th with similar 2.0L engine and 6MT. It's very competent for weekend track days and return same consumption for regular country highway driving. For next Type-R, it'd be cool if all the weight saving techniques were used to complement the NA engine... side effect, it'll get Hybrid like consumption and last forever with low curb weight. A formula that'll still be affordable for track-days in decades to come.
Could've put the motor from the new CRV in this Civic and it would've actually been quick. I think the crv makes 207hp and 240tq out of a 2.0L hybrid system...
Good review but I’ve never seen a tester that doesn’t say how tall they are when sitting in the back of any car. And if I may say so Sir - you seem fairly lanky 😂
I hate the terminology CVT for this drivetrain, it makes no sense. The transmission of torque is continuously variable in all cars... by the change in engine RPM. "Continuously variable" in CVT refers to gear ratio, not transmission of torque, as that would make no sense since many other factors go into the transmission of torque that have nothing to do with the CVT transmission. It would be like saying a full battery EV has a CVT because the transmission of torque from the battery is to the wheels is "continuously variable". I have a 2019 Honda Insight, which has the previous generation of this drivetrain and many people complain that the engine drones uphill or accelerating which it does to generate more power for the battery and drive motor, and they are kind of right about the drone, it's not always the most satisfying sound. That said, I'd feel like such a tool knowing that my car's engine is just revving down for no reason other than to make me feel "cool" while losing power and efficiency. Honestly does a 2 litre engine shifting up and down sound that good anyways?
Like the way my 10th Gen drives and styling,though twin spoilers were considered radical ,so agree looks bland compared . No height adjustment on passenger side I believe could be a deal breaker with a sub 5’ wife.
The side view of the Civic looks weird. The first half looks like it was part of another car, all lean and sedany. While the section from the middle of the car to the rear of the car looks like a handsome sports back. If Honda raised the front half of the boot , to make it look thicker from the sides (like the new CRV) this Civic would have looked more striking in my opinion.
Surprised you never even had the blind back on the panoramic roof, it makes the interior much lighter did you know it was there and opens as well? as you never mentioned it. You also said it doesn't feel fast, well it does to me and a 0 to 60 time of under 7 seconds (carwow and others) would suggest it actually is, an entertaining review though.
Great car but I agree why did the go boring when they usually go a bit over the top styling wise. Somewhere In the middle would of been perfect ‘Honda’
Thanks for the review, this looks like a definite option. The only two things I'd say is that 5.5l/100km doesn't sound any better than I got from a 1.5 Octavia on the commute to work and worse than a Focus 1.0 at 5.3, oh and a lot worse than the Golf diesel I had for a week which got around 4.4. Of course I don't know how you(d been driving it but it just doesn't sound ground breaking. I'd also say those extra litres of boot space get noticed most (for me anyway) at holiday time.... Out of curiosity, if I take the Octavia, the economy will generally go as well as 4.2 if I'm on a long run and driving at 65-70mph but it takes it a while to work down to that. I was wondering if that's the same for a hybrid like this or is it the opposite on a long journey as the battery gradually just becomes some weight your carrying around?
@@ln5747 Yes, it uses exhaust gases to turn a turbine which is then used to compress air being fed into the engine. These days you get bi-turbos, twin scroll and even electrically assisted ones and of course inter-coolers to cool the air but I'm sure you'll find a fuller description on a wiki page if you want to know more.
Well Diesel is pretty much finished now. Despite it being more powerful, manufactures have to pay huge tax on any diesel production vehicles. Furthermore lots of countries are cracking down to phase out Diesels by bringing strict regulations on emissions, enforcing new No Diesel Zones in crowded cities , bringing out various mandatory addons like DPF filters- which severely reduces power. Unless it's for big commercial vehicles , no manufacturers are willing to bait on diesel. And for cars it is pretty much nonexistent. You can boast about fuel economy of the old diesel cars, but it's not manufacturers fault that they can no longer sustain production of diesel cars. You don't realise but lots of manufacturers had to cancel export of certain models since the new emission regulations. Lots of their SUVs and pickups that were inherently Diesel for the high torque have all been but replaced with petrol counterparts. The Petrol Hybrids still have some place in the market as of now, before all cars will go Electric. So unless you can afford an EV, petrol Hybrids are the one we can all but settle for.
Honestly, I also thought it looked bland. I have the 2018 Version and Ilove it. Sadly I needed a new Car dew to increased Gas prizes. So I bought the new Honda. And the More I see it, the more I like the new Design…
