2023 Acura TLX Type S vs BMW M340i 3 Series // Battle of the Four-Door Sports Sedan! 

That’s why I’m on year 4 of my M340xi and I’m going to just keep on driving it for a good while longer. Only 40k miles so far.

@@Ruxl21 That's great! A 2020 - 21 M340i Xdrive is my dream daily driver 😄.

One day! Rn I’m daily driving a 328i with the n52 engine. Definitely not as fast but it’s damn reliable. I love the hydraulic power steering

@@zureaiw Lucki pfp

@@Ruxl21 I've been driving my 2023 M340i xdrive for just over a year and 3 months, and I'm already at 19k miles

Thank you! 👍

FWD=GAY

@@scalways it's AWD tho lol

M340i > G70 > Type S

@@user-ik8ph1jz7n it’s front wheel drive based AWD. Meaning it’s driving in front wheel drive until it senses slippage. He said this numerous times in the video, did you even watch it all the way through?

@@Ih8chewthis is completely wrong. It’s awd and can actually send 70% of that power to the back and 100% to either back wheel depending on the situation and the situation is never wheel spin. If the reviewer said anything but that, then he is wrong as well. It only becomes most power to the front full throttle at about 100mph+

Im guessing you like the X3M more or do you miss the M340?

They were already going to make the s58 you tool. N55 -> s55 b58 -> s58 They always do that & please don’t say they didn’t do that with the e9x gen bcuz that was a one off occasion. Look at all //M cars and they’re non M counterparts. (Not just 3 series)

The Stinger is being discontinued because it can't hang with the M340i? Where did you get that info? That's not at all true. It's being discontinued because it didn't sell well enough. I guess by your logic, every competitor to the M340i should be discontinued since none of them can keep up. Goodbye S4/S5, C43, G70... etc. You can't keep up so nobody wants you.

@@mattspeer01 Stinger was way overpriced, it should of been at least 10k cheaper in order to attract ppl. Why would someone pay over 50k for a KIA, when they can get ACURA, LEXUS, BMW, ect. for a little more.

@@floggyWM1 I bought a G70 couple months ago and didn't even look at stinger bc they were priced at least 5k more for a 2022 which was strange me considering the G70 is the more upscale car if anything.

Thanks bro

Thanks 🙏

Sorry, you missed one crucial thing…RELIABILITY…Japanese name plates will blow the Germans away in reliability and long term resale value. ACURA HAS THE SUPERIOR BUILD QUALITY BECAUSE it won’t be in the shop like the BMW. Fact !

@@Sleepygarage the scenery in your vids are very nice..where in ontario did you shoot this vid?

No it’s not. It was pretty trash. Your standards are shit

To add to this, i traded my 21 type s in for a 24 bmw m2. The s58 manages 1-2mpg average BETTER than my type S did with 150hp (dynod) hp on top. Bmw have made the perfect 6 cylinder

BMW you lease the Acura you buy….reliability is synonymous with Acura and Lexus. German cars are synonymous with unreliability and endless money pits.

@@richardmyles8237spoken like a true poor that hasn’t owned anything newer than a 20 year old corolla

And M440i too

@@josueramirez8300I am hoping you are not insinuating that I cannot afford a BMW? I can buy several cars straight cash. I guess you don’t know who I am lol. Acura is superior to any German name plate that’s WHY they hold their value over the Germans

The B58 is an incredibly well engineered motor. If you choose not to whip it, it will give you great gas mileage.

Why

Yesssss imagine put 10k in acura for the same price bmx have no chance to finish 1st ❤

Much appreciated! I think the 5 series would feel a bit heavier than the already heavy m340. If you don’t need the extra 2 inches of rear seat space id go for the m340.

Thank u :))

What other improvements? It doesn't sound like they did any improvements to performance. Mainly some cosmetic changes. Would have been nice to see another 30-45 HP added to compete with things like the M340i. Especially since it's such a pig. Could really use some extra power.

@greg5143 The refresh was mostly quality of life changes that people have been asking for. The digital gauge, HUD, larger infotainment screen, 360 camera, wireless car play, rear USB ports, better looking front grill, new rims, acoustic glass, and other little improvements are now standard. Yeah, they didn't increase the power when they really should. But everything else seems like a win to me.

That is good news. They got the MDX Type S right so it's about time the TLX Type S got the ugprades it needed.

In my younger years I would get this pseudo M series where I don't know how to value my money and keep on spending on a lot of SSS on maintenance/repairs. As I get older and wiser, Honda/Acura cars always make a lot of sense.

Bmw is on another level

Agreed!!

I appreciate that!

Ty :)

You say that now until it leaves you stranded a d the electrical gremlins and maintenance get in the way and horrible resale

Praise the Lord for that M340!

Yet somehow, the TLX Type S tied the M340i's lap time at MotorTrend. Let that sink in. The Bimmer has more horsepower and weighs less, but still couldn't beat the TLX's track time. That tells me the Acura's SH-AWD can manhandle Germany's best.

@@TheBreakfastLover boy please show the link cause i have a tlx type s and a x3 m40 and my truck pull away from my acura

@@terrencemcphail5782 can't post external links on YT comments. But look up MotorTrend's review. Both the Acura and M340i lap time was 25.0 seconds. And here's their blurb on it... "Simply put, they just launch harder than the Type S does, but once we twisted the steering wheel in the figure-eight test, the Type S outperformed the Audi and tied the BMW. Not bad for something that's down on power to the Bimmer and much heavier than either German."

@@TheBreakfastLover no, they didn’t tie, TLX lost to the m240i and m340 by over 3 seconds and the BMWs were handicapped by their tires! Quit your lying. lol ain’t nobody taking a TLX yo a race track or drag strip. You’d have to not care about performance in order to pick a TLX over a BMW. Look at the VIR lap times! We don’t drive spec sheets, tack times are what matter. The TLX may be quick in theory according to some figure 8 test but on a track it gets stomped by BMW.

@@postalpancho the M340i finished MotorTrend's lap in 25.0 seconds, the TLX Type S did it in 25.0 seconds. That's a tie.

I’d say that’s a pretty spot on assessment

I would 100% prefer the M340 but I need a manual option.

definitely worth it, I upgraded from GLI to M340i

Looks are subjective. The TLX Type S has quad-exhaust, and sits lower and wider than an M3, let alone an M340i. In terms of features, an M340i when optioned with all the features that are standard on the Acura, is $10k more expensive. And in terms of performance, the bimmer is quicker in a straight line, but the Acura somehow tied its track time at MotorTrend, which tells me the Acura is a superb handler.

sits lower? You must be talking about the distance between the front lip and the pavement. If we’re talking wheel gap, the tlx has the same wheel gap as my wife’s Pathfinder.

@@gogz1981 oops I looked it up and the M3, TLX Type S, and M340i are all the same height: 56.4". However, the TLX is the widest (75.2") followed by the M3 (74.9"), and distant last being the M340i (71.9" lol). So the TLX's width-to height proportions are superior to the an M3, while the M340i's proportions are actually much closer to a Civic.

Why does the width of the car matter so much? lol

@@danielo22 performance variants (eg. M3, C63, RS6) are wider than their subordinate models (eg. 330i, C300, A6). That's part of why they look better. The TLX is wider than the M3, the M340i is narrower.

They make m440i gran coupe to compete in that segment

@@TheRidersChoice it’s not 1:1 though because it’s significantly more expensive compared to the M340i but for sportbacks I would say it’s the M440i > Stinger GT2 > S5

@@mrscottmescudi10 $4k more expensive.

@@TheRidersChoice that’s base msrp…fully loaded it’s at least $10k more

The Audi won’t last though

Design over functionality. Buy an RDX if you want more space lol

Agreed, the 21+ TLX cabin space is pretty much the same as the 15-20 version but has an upsized exterior. That said, drivescene is correct re: RDX alternative, provided you dont need Type S power. Granted, a Ktuner w/Phearable stage 3 tune for $700 will bring the RDX/TLX 2.0 to Type S levels without sacrificing reliability.

Got something more comfortable with a smaller footprint. New Integra.@@drivescene6747

@@MidnightAspec well said. A perfect RDX would be a Type S with the turbo v6, I don’t know why Acura is holding out. That would arguably be the best Type S in the lineup.

@@drivescene6747 Absolutely. The RDX is my favorite Acura product. If Acura had an RDX Type S with the A-Spec Advance trim, I'd get one TODAY!

i went from a 2018 aspec tlx 3.5 to a M340. Acrua handles fine though BMW glues its self to the road these two aren't in the same league. 260 hp v 400 hp stock

ITS is way better than TLX Type S in my opinion, I agree with all of that and yeah the perfect step up would be an M3/5 Comp lol.

Not surprised as turbo engines are more efficient on paper than in the real world. Have owned plenty of both…..

Go search online about the b58 before talking about reliability, one of the bulletproof motor of this couple decades

@@thewonderfulland6207 but you'll never beat hondas track record compared to BMWs

​@@bradleyflanaryweird way to spell Toyota

@fyro124 Toyota was never part of the conversation lol, Honda and Toyota are the best brands on the market

Yeah same here man they just won’t get with the program.. they need get with the times and stop with the fwd especially if its the luxury division

@@iamgiocasino Literally. It’s a nice car, but for the price (MSRP) you can get a new 340i for almost the same. Plus the B58 has proven to be a solid engine so far.

Try competing with the nsx bmw💀😭

It will last longer, better built, less plastic

@@rahimi4762 Not true. As someone who has worked on the service side for both brands, Honda's and BMW's both make GREAT engines. BMW's are higher maintenance because they're higher performance tuned. Acura's just use better tuned versions of their original counterparts. That's not a knock, but the only true performance Honda engine built was the V8 Indycar motors. But when you get down to it, they both require the same amount of maintenance, and they both have the same failures. People who still have the old school way of thinking where you just need an oil change are dead wrong but truth be told, if you can't afford or are unwilling to pay for the highly recommended work OUTSIDE of just an oil change, then you cannot afford the car. I've seen both brands have issues at 10k, and both be in very good condition at 100K+. The difference is how well you maintain it.

Yes, Honda's sound system is good. But HK is almost universally considered one of the standard bearers of high quality sound with B&O and B&W being the ultimate audiophiles wet dream. ELS does have better lows, but H&K has better mids - so if you're into the big bass, yes, ELS is the better choice, but H&K has better clarity so it's all about preference at that point. With that said, at least in my neck of the woods, there are about 5 TLX Type S's to 1 M340, and not based on popularity but availability, so it may differ by state/region. As for pricing, you get what you pay for, and having serviced both, driven both, and having chosen another car with the B58 motor in it, I feel the price difference is much deserved, but as is everything else in life, it comes down to preference and budget

I almost got the TLX Type S last year but I got the Integra Type S instead lol i just wasnt ready for paddle shifters

Sorry,but i dont believe that you own an m340i

mine does just fine up to redline?

It also stands for “Break My Wallet” for a reason

I've seen several video tracking these two cars saying the acura handles better, it even was faster on some tracks.

Not enough to make it a better choice

For a sports car 😂

@@good-tn9sr it’s not a corvette lol..its a sporty sedan meant to be driven everyday to/from work and grab groceries ..why not have best of both worlds if a manufacturer like BMW offers it

No shit. Anyone with half a brain cell could have told you that. This dude is a retard

😂

Completely on a different league. M340i ftw.

For 10000$ more it better be.

​@@spawn11It was 67 when I looked, and the tlx was 54

Thanks for sharing!

They just forgot to add a few more ponies on the 24.

Same with the m340

The tlx is tight, with the baby car seat especially when rear facing is even worse. I talk about rear seat space in my yearly and new car review of my tlx if you wanna check it out.

Are you high lol the type s is like 60k 😅

@@kingGfour TLX Type S MRSP is $56.6k. A 330i xDrive optioned with all the features *standard* on the Acura: $57.7k. And even then the TLX has 20" wheels, quad-exhaust and V6 turbo, while the more expensive 330i has 19" wheels and a 4-cylinder.

Bro I see you under every other comments reply twerking for Acura. Are you just a big fan or are trying really hard to justify your purchase lmao

@@Entropiedstalking my comments? u creepy AF

Also you’re going off by one lap time as the sole basis for performance. The thing is an absolute cow on regular roads. My local dealerships can’t get rid of them. Tech wise the camera quality and everything else is beyond subpar.

Haha me too! Hope u enjoy it

@@Sleepygarage your reviews are the best. Keeep going!!

The engine is bullet proof but idk about the electronics and build quality idk.

I agree

Yeah but it breaks down. Plastic under the hood. Electrical gremlins. High maintenance

Until the repair bills start coming in.

@@rahimi4762Yet BMW was just rated as one of the most reliable auto brands by CR. I've had 4 G20s in the family, all are bulletproof.

I do think the Type S looks sharper and better at almost every angle. Also, I think the Acura will hold up better in 10 years in terms of build quality. I’m afraid the bmw at the same time will become sticky and smell like a box of crayons unfortunately. I do like how the bmw is faster (type s is a let down in performance) and more fuel efficient.

​@@dominicjeanb2063 BMW interiors hold up well if they are not used as a gym locker or parked outside indefinitely, as many of them are, being driven by people who don't own a home, hence no garage to park in (and really can't afford them) but want to look rich. It's the car of choice for bro's. I realize I hated on Acura pretty hard and I don't mean to offend, I'm just disappointed in what they have been producing as of late. I wanted to fall in love with the Type S as I was very disenchanted with my 2018 Q50RS and the Acura was on my short list (as was the S4/S5 and M340i), but when Type S came out, my initial excitement quickly faded once I saw them in person...especially considering the unrealized promise of performance made by the four rather large exhaust tips. Also, 24 MPG hwy is really bad these days. Pretty sure all modern V8 coupes and sedans do better than that.

Mild hybrid should be the way to go for all future sports SUVs/ sedans/coupes imo

@@kw7814 while there’s certainly little downfall to them, even the 2020 M340i gets exceptional gas mileage and it did not have the mild hybrid system. It wasn’t added until 2021.

Overpriced? The TLX Type S is the same price as a 330i Xdrive. Not the 340i.

Spec a 330i xDrive with the same features that are standard on the Type S. The 330i is actually closer in price to the TLX Type S than an equally-equipped M340i.

@@GigaChadRealington 0-60 is the most useless acceleration metric and isn't what you might think it is. MotorTrend's former editor, Jason Cammisa, explains why in a RU-vid video that you should watch. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JOWKJHvYK54.html

@@GigaChadRealington 🤣🤣🤣

@@GigaChadRealington drive one first

Canadian model.. I noticed that too!

The Type-S will have better resale because they don't depreciate so insanely badly like all Euros do. The Type-S is also vastly less expensive to maintain. I agree entirely that these are in two different classes.

The only thing “better” about the type S is reliability thats it lol

Actually, the TLX Type S tied the M340i's lap time at MotorTrend. And when you consider the Acura is the same price as an equally-optioned 330i, the Acura is the better performance value.

@@TheBreakfastLover the G70 is an even better performance value

@@mrscottmescudi10 the TLX Type S beat the Genesis G70 and Stinger GT in Car&Driver's Lightning Lap. The Stinger was discontinued and the G70 is being discontinued after this cycle.

Fair enough!