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2023 BMW M2 vs Porsche Cayman GTS 4.0 vs Tuned Golf R // DRAG RACE + LAP TIME 

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The 2023 BMW M2 ($79,754 starting in Canada, $63,195 in the US), the 2023 Porsche 718 Cayman GTS 4.0 PDK ($117,242 starting in Canada, $100,580 in the US), and a respectably tuned Volkswagen Golf R DSG ($52,483 starting in Canada, $46,635 in the US) have lined up for a drag race. These three German cars each look to make it down the strip first. The all-wheel drive Golf R and mid-engined Cayman may have a traction edge over the rear-driven M2 off the launch. But will traction be enough to take on the blistering 460 horsepower in the M2? Watch to find out! Things don’t always go as you might expect in a drag race. Subscribe!
Huge thank you to @blue_lapiz8r for loaning us their Golf R
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@ThrottleHouse
@ThrottleHouse Год назад
KARSTON SPEAKS. Ok, so this was news to us as well. He hasn’t said a word since and honestly it’s very unnerving. When we asked him about it he just focused at us really hard. We think the real Karston might be locked up somewhere in a dungeon or something. We request your thoughts and prayers at this troubling time.
@hudsonlucier7646
@hudsonlucier7646 Год назад
You should have talked to Chris Harris he seems to have no problem with stability control.
@carguy99
@carguy99 Год назад
Karsten may require lead filled soles on his driving shoes...
@oppos727
@oppos727 Год назад
[focusing intensifies]
@franciscoandresmontestorre1895
Good to know that Karston can speak.
@fist003
@fist003 Год назад
think he finished his speaking quota for the year
@MacellaioNero
@MacellaioNero Год назад
I really appreciated the break in Karston's focus. Is that a channel first?
@mojojojo_BB
@mojojojo_BB Год назад
I was thinking the exact same thing!
@MLHunt
@MLHunt Год назад
First I recall
@hypnoticsounds6734
@hypnoticsounds6734 Год назад
Need him to talk more lol it’d be like a big three
@iFigure
@iFigure Год назад
I thought it was a golf
@deisumus1
@deisumus1 Год назад
@@iFigure lol
@gw7624
@gw7624 Год назад
This seems to be the only channel actually doing lap times these days. Keep it up. Edit: I forgot about Hagerty, but I'm going to leave this here so people can correct me.
@germanengineering204
@germanengineering204 Год назад
This channel is great these guys really cover all the bases! Just would like to see the 0 to 60, and quarter mile times!
@ferdelance7474
@ferdelance7474 Год назад
Pretty rare to have good drivers in general too
@mohamedvaliyullah5388
@mohamedvaliyullah5388 Год назад
Then you don't know about hagerty
@bsgmotoring6602
@bsgmotoring6602 Год назад
Hargety
@Qayin
@Qayin Год назад
Yes cause lap times are so important to people buying an everyday car. You people that focus on this stuff are absolute cornballs. Lol what’s your current lap times in your scion xb bro?
@nitesh-maharaj
@nitesh-maharaj Год назад
Am I crazy, or has this just turned into the best car show. Hagerty has amazing production quality, but these guys have something special that the rest don't have.
@locotek
@locotek Год назад
Definitely the best, they have an infectious magic formula going. If they stick with it they will shoot to the top.
@colinchatfield5879
@colinchatfield5879 Год назад
Its the charisma factor
@jesuschristiscallingyou953
@jesuschristiscallingyou953 Год назад
Yup. Charisma. Thomas and James are just two sweethearts! 😅
@nicholasdean3869
@nicholasdean3869 Год назад
Chemistry between bro’s
@nicholasdean3869
@nicholasdean3869 Год назад
Thomas is certainly the wife about the Lotus
@peraspera1302
@peraspera1302 Год назад
I like these guys. Just some regular dudes with a good ammount of humour and driving insights.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Год назад
Yep. Hire also Chris Harris into Throttle House.
@richardnavratil9661
@richardnavratil9661 Год назад
4:55 That's literally the most I've heard Carson say in the 2+ years I've been watching this channel. :D
@zygarde2162
@zygarde2162 Год назад
Carson speaks😮. Mind blown….
@ihavealife002
@ihavealife002 Год назад
Maybe he's just a big golf R fan lol
@richardnavratil9661
@richardnavratil9661 Год назад
@@ihavealife002 Maybe that's his actual car. He did seem more invested in the outcome of the races...
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Год назад
@@richardnavratil9661 mind you thats the Golf GTi R can do the justice.
@joshuaadekunle6553
@joshuaadekunle6553 Год назад
I just love it when Thomas says "and this is a drag race"
@housepianist
@housepianist Год назад
Almost a Doug DeMuro-ish approach.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Год назад
@@housepianist and also semi approached from Mat Watson.
@suhasnaidu8597
@suhasnaidu8597 Год назад
In tonight's car programme ~ Thomas says Stuttgart , James explain launch control, And We hear Carston 's voice .
@jesseoutlaw5525
@jesseoutlaw5525 Год назад
CARSTON HAS SPOKEN!!!! TH Stig has broken his silence!! 2:42
@jesseoutlaw5525
@jesseoutlaw5525 Год назад
TWICE!!!!! 4:55
@AnandA2155
@AnandA2155 Год назад
Yes yes, I can see that there is a BMW and a Porsche. But all I can think of is how good the Golf is that it made Carston talk. 😂
@nirfz
@nirfz Год назад
Maybe i misunderstood it, but it wasn't that the Golf was so good that made him talk, but that it still lost against the Cayman despite being at the same power level, having awd and turbos.
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Год назад
@@nirfz the Golf also weighed 88kgs less than Cayman GTS.
@saeria7828
@saeria7828 10 месяцев назад
This is why aero is King. It's what made gtr a supercar killer event with the high weight of it and having less horsepower.
@TheSoundzUK
@TheSoundzUK Год назад
Anyone else really want to see the tuned golf R go round the track... its seriously interesting to see how much time the cars gained with near on 50%, bhp improvement.
@krane15
@krane15 Год назад
Its not designed for that. The others are true sports cars from the start.
@TheSoundzUK
@TheSoundzUK Год назад
@@krane15 whyd they bother taking the stock golf R around then..
@krane15
@krane15 Год назад
@@TheSoundzUK Explained in the intro. Basically, for good measure.
@TheSoundzUK
@TheSoundzUK Год назад
@krane15 regardless of weather its designed for it, and how much youre gonna keep coming back with answer after answer because you must enforce your opinion. Me and 40 others who've liked my comment would also have liked to see it
@hotrod182
@hotrod182 Год назад
@@TheSoundzUK Well, why not tune the M2 then?. Do you know how easily that engine picks up HP?
@R8andGT3Fan
@R8andGT3Fan Год назад
Loved Karston showing signs of life at 2:42! 🤣
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Год назад
Karston is FASTER THAN YOU.
@brent9369
@brent9369 Год назад
Nice to finally see Karston break focus in a race! I also really like the sunset outro thing that you guys are doing. makes the cars really pop.
@donschiffer7400
@donschiffer7400 Год назад
Wider tires plus a mid engine means the Porsche has roughly similar grip to the awd golf. Plus the Germans always underestimate their hp. Good to see James win one finally!
@bh4560
@bh4560 Год назад
I think the HP figures are from crankshaft in test conditions. Measuring it from wheels is always slightly different. I like how they always say the lowest average 0-60 time too. That way you can almost always beat the time. 😂 clever stuff
@XploreAz
@XploreAz Год назад
Well they're all German cars, so...
@joshuapounds7646
@joshuapounds7646 Год назад
@@bh4560 what’s your point they are all German cars 🤦🏼‍♂️
@aroundomaha
@aroundomaha Год назад
I’d have liked to see the Golf R’s track time. Not a bad showing for the R considering the price
@geemy9675
@geemy9675 Год назад
AWD still has more traction with 100% of the weight on driven wheels vs 56% on the cayman. Even with weight transfer, I don't think the cayman is anywhere near lifting the front wheels and having 100% on the rear...bigger contact patch does not translate into proportionally better friction coefficient, only reduces the tire load and improves grip marginally. I think Porsche launch control is just more efficient, cayman's lighter so better power/weight ratio and probably more power than the spec sheet says. maybe the golf R launch control doesn't do so good with the added power too...tunes Porsche's launch really well but that's not always the case with every car brand
@apostoloskohilas7319
@apostoloskohilas7319 Год назад
This is the best format for a car review. This is exactly what we want! You guys are awesome, really. Keep up the good work!
@Feryp99
@Feryp99 Год назад
the color on the porsche is amazing
@nofront711
@nofront711 Год назад
The car itself too.
@anthonygreene2249
@anthonygreene2249 Год назад
Thats actually green. Unlike most companies calling a yellow shade green.
@tanthaman
@tanthaman Год назад
No
@cameronlotter1392
@cameronlotter1392 Год назад
The colour on your mom's 🙀 is amazing
@leonamadeusivkovic911
@leonamadeusivkovic911 Год назад
So many people love it, but i hate it no idea why
@GhostReaper5.0
@GhostReaper5.0 Год назад
Love those uncommon drag races !!
@purwantiallan5089
@purwantiallan5089 Год назад
Mk7r_STI, have you watched clips from F1 2020 UNSEEN yet? It is in my RU-vid channel. One clip featuring Nijigasaki and D4DJ singing Ryoran Victory Road during Bushiroad Rock Festival 2023.
@Mr.ImbeciIe
@Mr.ImbeciIe Год назад
Love seeing Golf R in competition. Not bad for a 2.0L Turbo
@ApothecaryTerry
@ApothecaryTerry Год назад
True, although I wouldn't be surprised if the Cayman is actually more economical in the real world 😄
@TermlessHGW
@TermlessHGW Год назад
Golf R is great until the engine goes BANG! Clata clata... Well over 400 bhp from a 2.0l 4cyl is crazy.
@krane15
@krane15 Год назад
Not bad? Getting 400hp out of a 2.0 liter four is amazing.
@d.erueti5156
@d.erueti5156 Год назад
K20
@ApothecaryTerry
@ApothecaryTerry Год назад
​@@krane15 400hp out of a 2.0 liter four was done more reliably by Mitsubishi over a decade ago and isn't uncommon in tuned cars now. There are a couple of Peugeots where a simple remap will get you past 300hp from a 1.6, also at least as reliable as the VW. Not that I'm knocking (engineering pun intended) 400hp from the VW at all, it's just not uncommon enough these days that I'd call it amazing, personally.
@thomasholdsworth2422
@thomasholdsworth2422 Год назад
Still the best car content on the internet. Massive respect to both of you!
@juliussimkus4900
@juliussimkus4900 Год назад
MVP of car reviews. You guys are special, props to your production team. Keep up the good work
@ESKATEUK
@ESKATEUK Год назад
That cayman GTS is a beast. I’d take that any day out the 3. Looks the best too.
@papa_pt
@papa_pt Год назад
well yeah by far the most expensive too
@cyril2011
@cyril2011 Год назад
You'd take the 150k sports car over the 50k hatchback? Wow, weird opinion...
@user-bi5vb2dl5k
@user-bi5vb2dl5k Год назад
The Porsche? It’s a women’s car😂 maybe choose a better Porsche?
@papa_pt
@papa_pt Год назад
@@user-bi5vb2dl5k says a whole lot more about you to think some Cayman is a woman's car 😂 yeeeeehaw
@ESKATEUK
@ESKATEUK Год назад
@@cyril2011 150k? It’s 74k brand new. Don’t worry mates you’re only out by 76k.
@SkippyTheBeerCan
@SkippyTheBeerCan Год назад
For the money and performance, I would still get the tuned Golf R.
@leonardoboccuti6779
@leonardoboccuti6779 8 месяцев назад
ahahah tuned M2 destroy it
@dj_laundry_list
@dj_laundry_list Год назад
I like Carsten's choice of small aperture sun stars for the intro shots
@alexandertsanga
@alexandertsanga Год назад
@4:11mins - " Could we do a Rolling Race so i can Participate ! " 😂😂😂😂 that had me Rollin'
@tyjohnsrud
@tyjohnsrud Год назад
Great to see Karston come alive! Hope to see more of him in the next road trip series.
@felixdysonjr6768
@felixdysonjr6768 Год назад
Oh man yet another exciting episode from the most amazing presenters. Big ups to James n Thomas💥💥watching you from Africa
@yellowhypergiant9971
@yellowhypergiant9971 Год назад
Always love your convent and videos you make on a regular basis. Guys Keep it up 👍
@erniejoel1234
@erniejoel1234 Год назад
Thanks for the laptmes. Great video.
@sambrown6426
@sambrown6426 Год назад
Just this past Monday I got to drive stick for the first time (and in a 4th gen WRX at that). I'm honestly surprised at how well I did, I only stalled once in 30 minutes of driving, even though we were just driving around an empty parking lot. Honestly, it felt quite natural, and I was pleasantly surprised by the fact that if you let the clutch out slowly, you can start moving without touching the gas. My neighbor who owned the WRX and was teaching me was also impressed with how well I got on with it, and I'm looking forward to driving stick with him again.
@joep4224
@joep4224 Год назад
Good to hear another few words from Karston. I think we've enjoyed the Silent Bob approach, but now it would be cool to see him in frame more often.
@Full_Deflection
@Full_Deflection Год назад
Let’s give huge props to the moderately tuned VW Golf that kept pace with those much more expensive cars.
@TheStigHCE09
@TheStigHCE09 Год назад
Orrr the other way around, let's give props to the Porsche which has less power and two less driven wheels compared to the modified Golf R.
@_Ambition124
@_Ambition124 Год назад
​@@TheStigHCE09 also weighs a lot less ....
@TheStigHCE09
@TheStigHCE09 Год назад
@@_Ambition124 The Golf R still had a higher power-to-weight ratio. It should have also destroyed the Porsche from a dig.
@Full_Deflection
@Full_Deflection Год назад
@@TheStigHCE09 or not. It’s a fully functional family hatchback at less than half the price. Time to get off the Porsche dick and move along.
@anthonykiedis1765
@anthonykiedis1765 Год назад
The Porsche and M2 still have a warranty. The Golf will be good until something breaks in the next week or so.
@fishua5564
@fishua5564 Год назад
I would not mind a separate tuned car board. I would very much like to know what a golf R and some mods does or maybe a Honda civic type R with some mods.
@timfederwitz
@timfederwitz Год назад
Having owned a tuned mk 7.5 Golf R myself, I was kind of shocked that it didn't take the stock Porsche Cayman GTS!! That car is obvioiusly amazing, and imagine what it could do with a little more work! Of course, one of the reasons I loved the Golf R was that it was a hatchback and was a bit of a sleeper. That tune essentially makes it an RS3 hatchback, which they stopped importing into the states when I bought mine... otherwise I would've owned a modded RS3!! Giddyup!
@krane15
@krane15 Год назад
Driver error. It should have gaped the other two cars off the line. However, its weakness is in the mid-rage where it sadly, begins to fizzle out while the others keep on pulling.
@jeremysmith7686
@jeremysmith7686 Год назад
My tcu is still locked. . Definitely would've beat the porsche otherwise eventhough it's 600lbs lighter. My car hasn't been on a dyno but is neck and neck with my buddies stage 1+ unitronic car also with no tcu so they just put the unitronic #'s down. Those are not whp figures. . Realistically my car probably only makes 400ish whp with no tcu so the tq is being limited.
@timfederwitz
@timfederwitz Год назад
@@jeremysmith7686 I guess this makes more sense. My 2019 Golf R was Stage 2+ and easily and consistently did 0-60 in 3.5 secs on the street (I had a tracker). It also never seemed to stop pulling at any speed, right up to 150+ when it would be aero limited. It also would do the quarter mile in 11.5 secs, and looking at the perf stats of the 2023 Caymen GTS, mine would have done it in handily. Thanks for sharing these details, because it makes more sense now. Also, my 2019 Golf R weighed 3,300 pounds, so only ~200 pounds more than the GTS.
@jeremysmith7686
@jeremysmith7686 Год назад
@Tim Federwitz so my car currently when I ran it down that strip is trapping a speed of 118-119 mph which is also good enough for a mid 11 but the 60ft with the lack of tcu tune has only generated an 11.9 at 119.
@teddyframhein
@teddyframhein Год назад
You can definitely fully disable everything on the 981 generation Cayman/Boxster, even with PTV - I've got a backlog of drifty shenanigans to prove it. I don't know why they would have changed that for the 718. But even with everything fully disabled, unless you've already got a drift going, the balance tends to shift to understeer on power. Better to get the rotation done on entry using a trail of the brake; then you've got all the traction in the world to use on the way out.
@75ZT
@75ZT Год назад
Yeah, fully disabled is fully disabled on the 981, including PTV. Hmm....
@marcusturner5291
@marcusturner5291 Год назад
Nice review keep up the good work fellas
@Acct1941
@Acct1941 3 месяца назад
Excellent take on the GTS 4.0. Amazing car but I was frustrated with the PTV and stability control never being defeatable.
@gurt416
@gurt416 Год назад
Carson talked!
@SnappyWasHere
@SnappyWasHere Год назад
The Golf will always be the best car to own. Fast, roomy, cheap, reliable.
@Bogdan00
@Bogdan00 Год назад
no current VW is reliable
@mariodiniz21
@mariodiniz21 Год назад
very boring also
@krane15
@krane15 Год назад
Unlike the other two pure sports cars. The Golf is a practical daily driver with the heart of a sports car.
@gedam131
@gedam131 Год назад
But then again, you drive a Golf..
@SnappyWasHere
@SnappyWasHere Год назад
@@gedam131 A Porsche is just a golf that breaks more often.
@xxprogamersxx7847
@xxprogamersxx7847 Год назад
I found this channel 2 days ago and i love it!
@vladislavdimitrov4646
@vladislavdimitrov4646 Год назад
You've missed a lot
@Ersy90
@Ersy90 Год назад
This is exactly what i needed, best video cause i like all 3 cars and wonder what my next might be. Really considering cayman/boxster 982 gts or even 981 xD, i got a rs3 2016 and i wanna keep it cause of the engine.
@fat420cracker
@fat420cracker Год назад
Awesome video. Love it! Pricing is interesting. Currently one Canadian dollar equals 74 cents in USD. So with that calculation the 718 in CAD is $117,242 and when you convert that to USD its $86,362 but if you buy the 718 in the US you're paying $100,580 USD. Same goes for the M2, $79,754 CAD converts to $58,748 USD and the Golf $52,483 CAD converts to $38,660 USD
@adamvolasko225
@adamvolasko225 Год назад
I was a little disappointed they didn't attempt a second dig race after Thomas struggled so much to put the power.
@m3awd598
@m3awd598 Год назад
I'm guessing Thomas tried a few times with this M2 and felt he wouldn't do much better
@ethanleno5259
@ethanleno5259 Год назад
they run it a few times and just do the best for all 3- the one we saw was probably the best he got
@seinsmeld13
@seinsmeld13 8 месяцев назад
I now have my M2 as well as my 2020 718 Spyder. If I could only have one it would be the Spyder. What a great car. Cheers🥶🥵
@user-ei4wk8yw3v
@user-ei4wk8yw3v 2 месяца назад
Brilliant video. Stuttgart know their audience and nail it. Hence I sold mine. Each to their own and you summed it up brilliantly.
@InsaneBimmer
@InsaneBimmer Год назад
Will never be upset about a Carston appearance. Nothing at all wrong with some man candy 😁
@BigDog8162.0
@BigDog8162.0 Год назад
Give me the Golf R Allday!!! Love it
@rslrandyman
@rslrandyman Год назад
Brilliant and highly enjoyable ❤
@hi_tech_reptiles
@hi_tech_reptiles Год назад
Daaaamn, shoutout to that Golf. That thing's impressive. I just got an Acura MDX, and it makes me want an AWD hatchback/liftback seeing stuff like that lol. They are hard to find used around here tho, especially not Ford STs or new Civic R Sedans or something.
@jet_black
@jet_black Год назад
Mk8golf R and a tune....that's damn impressive. I am a fanboy tho.
@BobbyBimmer
@BobbyBimmer Год назад
I still love the look of the 7.5 better than the 8. Regardless one of the best bang for buck like the 340i on the market with just a tune.
@PapiAndrey
@PapiAndrey Год назад
The numbers are in line with a unitronic stage 1 93 tune, not bad for $700. Not sure what the owner spent $6000 on, but it surely didn’t help the races
@vladislavdimitrov4646
@vladislavdimitrov4646 Год назад
@@BobbyBimmer A Golf with 7.5 front end and 8 rear would be perfect.
@luketurner4861
@luketurner4861 Год назад
A golf with a 7 front end and 7.5 rear ❤
@PeterM340i
@PeterM340i Год назад
The “screw your mods” comment at 2:40 killed me 🤣
@speedRacer05
@speedRacer05 Год назад
Hey guys, love your show! Planning on reviewing a Maserati Grecale Trofeo anytime soon? Maybe you can compare it directly to its Alpha stablemate.
@seinsmeld13
@seinsmeld13 10 месяцев назад
Great review men I get my 2023 M2 within the next 2 weeks. I can't wait for her to arrive. Cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🥶
@TheTrevorsanderson
@TheTrevorsanderson Год назад
Pretty impressive the golf kept up for nearly half the price
@kabob21
@kabob21 Год назад
It has 446 hp and AWD.
@quicktoreason2722
@quicktoreason2722 Год назад
@@kabob21 446 Hp, we dont know how much it really is as we don't know how much power is going into those wheel - its an awd system so there's a lot of lag. Id say its around 410-420 at best.
@Phantom-vn3nz
@Phantom-vn3nz Год назад
@@kabob21 with 446hp it should be faster than the cayman gts , i think this has about 410-420hp
@jeremysmith7686
@jeremysmith7686 Год назад
​@kabob21 does not. My car realistically is in and around 400whp so the same as the porsche with the porsche being 600lbs lighter. . And my tcu is still locked so the tq is being limited. That porsche is not quick lol
@quicktoreason2722
@quicktoreason2722 Год назад
@@Phantom-vn3nz no, power to weight ratio bud
@grantberry6070
@grantberry6070 Год назад
U know there’s a problem when Karston shows emotion, that cayman is quick off the line
@cr4zym3x1c4n
@cr4zym3x1c4n Год назад
So funny I was looking at Porsche GTS videos for a week straight and here I am on throttle house, love the video
@WhiteNoma
@WhiteNoma Год назад
@ThrottleHouse has a CT4V Blackwing (/whisper) been tested yet? Love to see a comparison with that between the M2 and base M3 manual.
@JustinTorres-mp7zp
@JustinTorres-mp7zp Год назад
So what I got from this video is, get a Golf R and get it APR tuned (to keep the warranty) lol
@wesgreen2812
@wesgreen2812 Год назад
You don't keep your warranty APR offers their own
@bigzkiller123
@bigzkiller123 Год назад
I’m impressed with the golf r hanging with the heavyweights with bolt ons
@lux8626
@lux8626 Год назад
The golf is tuned tho 😂
@domepugliese
@domepugliese Год назад
8 gen golf r is already fast, this is tuned too
@prestige_123
@prestige_123 Год назад
The legend finally speaks!!
@johnadair6108
@johnadair6108 Год назад
Good stuff guys!
@lukewhite5051
@lukewhite5051 Год назад
Man I thought the vw was was out of its league but wow!😂😁
@Karabo9917
@Karabo9917 Год назад
We need a rematch tuned M5Cs vs the E63s tuned and Rs6 tuned those previous one 1⃣ you raced with a stock m5cs
@77cemoore
@77cemoore Год назад
Carston speaks! Yay! It's about time!
@G-ym9vs
@G-ym9vs 11 месяцев назад
I think my 718 Boxster GTS would be a better track car than the 4.0. All that torque down low for the tight corners, it's brilliant at 10/10ths too! 2.5 engine pulls hard, just doesn't sound as good as the 4.0, but I love the sound of the 2.5 GTS I have. It's just not too loud, so it's hard for other people to hear it, but sounds great inside the cabin for sure! Great review....thanks!
@Trio3224
@Trio3224 Год назад
"Screw your mods" said the guy in the $100,000+ car who barely beat the $50,000 car 😂
@JahoSelamaj
@JahoSelamaj Год назад
Pathetic 😂
@Warrior11117
@Warrior11117 Год назад
The difference between a fake and a luxury item is not that big.
@oleg274
@oleg274 Год назад
@@Warrior11117 do you mean Porsche is a fake luxury Volkswagen? Fair enough 😂
@germanengineering204
@germanengineering204 Год назад
​@@oleg274 are you saying that Porsche isn't a great brand with cars like the GT3, and 911 turbo?😀
@erikw792
@erikw792 Год назад
For $1550usd Cobb will unlock another 50whp in the GTS 4.0. That's 400 NA whp.
@charlesadjei2355
@charlesadjei2355 Год назад
2:29 Thomas sounds like a very angry German in an m2
@toiletthinker8693
@toiletthinker8693 Год назад
The "Down" had a hint of Schwarzenegger😛
@videogazer801
@videogazer801 11 месяцев назад
I’ve never heard Karston speak until now and it’s because he’s frustrated with the Golf R. Lmao
@TheWombatCredenza
@TheWombatCredenza Год назад
JAMES - I could listen to you say chalk all day long. Epic video from TH whom, in case you hadn’t heard, rules. I am wombat.
@danielboyd7810
@danielboyd7810 Год назад
"WHAT!?" -Carsten, 2023
@eddiericks6554
@eddiericks6554 Год назад
Porsche 😊 there is no substitute. If I can’t afford one I may just get the golf r now if that’s not in my cards well I stick with my gti lol 😂
@paul325
@paul325 Год назад
Hello! What camera do you use? I love the quality!!🤤
@fayehall7483
@fayehall7483 Год назад
You presentation is great🎉
@jstewlly4747
@jstewlly4747 Год назад
The Cayman Gts 4.0 is the best car for sale next to a GT3 lol
@sanzserif
@sanzserif Год назад
Gt4 had entered the chat
@MrSchn3ll
@MrSchn3ll Год назад
@@sanzserif GT4 RS, Turbo, Carrera T, GT3RS, Sport Classic, Dakar, Spyder, Spyder RS, etc. have also entered chat.
@PapiAndrey
@PapiAndrey Год назад
The Gts is actually slightly quicker than the Gt4. I’m surprised people aren’t loving it as much because it’s not a “real gt car”. The gt4, gt3, gt2 get all the love. All of them are great.
@HeisenbergFam
@HeisenbergFam Год назад
10:26 "Golf R that will empower the keyboard warriors saying "you just need to stick a tune in it"" is such a profound way to end the video
@jeremysmith7686
@jeremysmith7686 Год назад
The car isn't fully tuned lol! Would've beat both cars.
@joshuapounds7646
@joshuapounds7646 11 месяцев назад
@@jeremysmith7686 that tuner is very bad 😂😂
@jeremysmith7686
@jeremysmith7686 11 месяцев назад
@Joshua Pounds you're clearly not very intelligent or understand what a tuned tcu does for the car LOL
@hyper_channel
@hyper_channel Год назад
All 3 are great in their own way, I didn't expect the Porsche to hang with the modded golf from standing, glad to see owners get awesome performance out of that price tag.
@ebredenberg
@ebredenberg Год назад
So happy to see a tuned car included in this! It’s a side perspective I enjoy.
@TheBreakfastLover
@TheBreakfastLover Год назад
On a side note, nice to see the Nissan Z back on the leaderboard. But why is the Z only 0.2 seconds quicker than the Acura TLX Type S, which is 700 lbs heavier and has 50 less hp?
@Franciscuwu
@Franciscuwu Год назад
ask nissan dude xD
@alexbass4102
@alexbass4102 Год назад
.2 seconds quicker is very vague... In the 1/4 the Z is .7 seconds quicker. Even the old 370z is quicker than the type s in the 1/4 mile. You can thank the awd system in the type s for the extra 500 pounds... which also helps it hold its own with the Z to 60 mph and around a track. I agree that on paper the Z should be quicker around a track but it's truly comparing apples to oranges.
@rojiii69420
@rojiii69420 Год назад
SHAWD
@papa_pt
@papa_pt Год назад
tires maybe
@SkylineLofe
@SkylineLofe Год назад
Have you seen the power of SH-AWD?
@chrism869
@chrism869 Год назад
its like a handmedown golf right there, versitle, spectacular thing ive ever seem, how the golf cant take down the cayman, m2 was in another dimension
@jeffu3248
@jeffu3248 Год назад
The Grand Turismo selection screen 😂😂😂😂. Love that game🔥🔥🔥
@a99fan17
@a99fan17 Год назад
Best episode ever. Carson was so pissed
@keatonwilliams9071
@keatonwilliams9071 Год назад
I’d still take the tuned r!!
@Lawnyyy-
@Lawnyyy- Год назад
I love the new tuning available for the golfs. I have a 22 GTI and am stage 1 with 370 hp. It’s like the perfect daily (for me) 🤣🙌🏽 love it
@genderlessyoutubefanperson
@genderlessyoutubefanperson Год назад
Stage 1 does not make 370 hp. You will need stage 2 on 93 octane minimum with supporting mods. IC, DP and TCU tune.
@oraclemiata845
@oraclemiata845 Год назад
Until it breaks… because ze Germans.
@Lawnyyy-
@Lawnyyy- Год назад
@@genderlessyoutubefanperson on low torque settings with the intake and intercooler, it does. 034 motorsports for reference, and yes it’s on 93. I literally own the car and had it dynoed to make sure 🤣 super impressive
@lawabiding2576
@lawabiding2576 Год назад
​@lawnyyy3044 Well that's damn amazing!
@Lawnyyy-
@Lawnyyy- Год назад
@@lawabiding2576 it’s not bad at all! Car was a super underpowered stock, but I bet VW did it on purpose haha
@seinsmeld13
@seinsmeld13 11 месяцев назад
You men are the best Canadian reviewers. Cheers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🥶
@mohamedyasinarakkal5130
@mohamedyasinarakkal5130 Год назад
Pls do a review on the alpina B5.
@bloodhoundsoldier7445
@bloodhoundsoldier7445 Год назад
i'm a golf head for sure as a gti owner but the tuned R being able to keep up with a porsche is super impressive
@OitsCody
@OitsCody Год назад
Its so impressive how fast the golf R is.
@ESKATEUK
@ESKATEUK Год назад
How is that impressive? It’s tuned up to 460bhp and got dropped by a 390bhp cayman. It’s nothing impressive.
@JS-cz6cj
@JS-cz6cj Год назад
@@ESKATEUKit’s a hatchback with 400hp that’s impressive imo.
@MrSKlim
@MrSKlim Год назад
@@ESKATEUK agreed. Honestly it’s pretty trash lol
@AntFragale
@AntFragale Год назад
@@ESKATEUK because 1,000$ in ecu and tcu tuning gets you a hatch that runs like 11.4 @121 for less than 50k. How on earth do you think that’s not impressive for a 2.0? It’s also 446. Don’t need to round up (and down on the Porsche) to try and make your point seem better.
@bassitos
@bassitos Год назад
the stock one can be compared to the 1 series, not sure why people are surprised tbqh
@mdub048
@mdub048 Год назад
I wonder what the times would have been with PSM on? Maybe the Porsche wizardry (it is a real thing) would have let you push the limits deeper knowing the safety harness was engaged? Just wondering... 🤔 Great video... Gives anyone considering any of these cars plenty to think about and plenty of encouragement. 🤩
@dadhats
@dadhats Год назад
karston was so shocked he spoke LOL and for good reason, I expected more from that golf r too!
@IbbySyed
@IbbySyed Год назад
Feel like Thomas is different from most folks on the Porsche forums because he actually knows how to drive haha
@papa_pt
@papa_pt Год назад
dear God man some of the people on there make me SICK
@TML34
@TML34 Год назад
I still can't believe that M2 is 3900 lbs.!! Porker. As for the Cayman, you have to uncheck the PTV option and it won't cut the power through the bends.
@trigganometry168
@trigganometry168 Год назад
Where do you uncheck the PTV?
@TML34
@TML34 Год назад
@@trigganometry168 when you spec the car. ;) I didn’t mean there was an “off switch” in the car. 😅
@trigganometry168
@trigganometry168 Год назад
@@TML34. The GTS didn’t have the option to uncheck. Haha but yeah I think only the GT4’s you could disable TC fully.
@Fersman1972
@Fersman1972 Год назад
Awesome video.
@nukesaway4806
@nukesaway4806 Год назад
You should make a board for the modified guest car.
@benkrapf
@benkrapf Год назад
Proving yet again that Porsche is magic.
@currycel470
@currycel470 Год назад
It's 40k over bmw so nothing surprising.
@RiasGremoryS54
@RiasGremoryS54 Год назад
Priving yet again that even on the same HP, the M2 is faster... The BMW destroyed the Porsche on the roll race. It's much faster and serious car.
@ericship8383
@ericship8383 8 месяцев назад
@@RiasGremoryS54 an m2 ain’t faster hop off bmws dick mate
@neogenmatrix6162
@neogenmatrix6162 Год назад
See, just sticking a tune in it (Golf R) with a $4000 exhaust has it keeping up with cars double its price.
@AntFragale
@AntFragale Год назад
The DP (if it has one) is the only thing that would even add anything too. The 2k worth of the catback is only a noise mod.
@rdab700
@rdab700 Год назад
In a straight line, yes.
@neogenmatrix6162
@neogenmatrix6162 Год назад
@@AntFragale Very true. I own a Golf R, cat delete. Disco Potato turbo. I will say the cat delete makes the car a different animal.
@conmaartens8795
@conmaartens8795 Год назад
If price is your only measure when buying a car, then yes, go with the Golf. If looks and sound are thrown in, the Golf doesn’t do it for me. But that’s just me.
@carguy...
@carguy... Год назад
But it's still a golf so.......
@arifcupluQ3088
@arifcupluQ3088 Год назад
Amazing❤
@joncamilleri2172
@joncamilleri2172 10 месяцев назад
Brilliant upload team, great viewing... Cayman would be my choice but not in green.
@rcravincase
@rcravincase Год назад
How is the m2 so friggin heavy?
@vladislavdimitrov4646
@vladislavdimitrov4646 Год назад
It's basically an M4 with a body kit. But this doesn't answer the question why the M4 is so heavy.
@rick5741
@rick5741 Год назад
Thomas hey hey James I love u. U both my fav reviewers of automobile industry ❤😊😊😊
@302ci1968
@302ci1968 Год назад
I completely agree with "G W": this is the only "lap time channel" on youtube. Strange for a continent who thinks racing is looking at the fastest car in a straight (and short) line... 😂 Thanks, guys, for the very good job you do
@trigganometry168
@trigganometry168 Год назад
Cayman 4.0 has amazing grip. I dumped the clutch on full throttle and it just pulled with little to no slip. Granted it was very hot that day on a clean tarmac.
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