I went with the Blackwing in the same color and 6mt as well lol, Im not surprised. BMW is notorious for under rating the power. My 335i definitely had more than the 300hp advertised.
I went for the M3 xDrive. Made the most sense to enjoy the (no speed limit) on the German autobahn. Plus is absolutely amazing on small and twisty country roads. Thanks for this comparison and congrats on being the only one with it!
It's not a dumb idea. Some of the people you have on here are absolutely terrible drivers yourself included lol. There is plenty of driver error each video.
@@germanengineering204 not at all. The Audi doesn’t have the chassis of the ct4 v bw nor the big power of the s58 in the m3. I find the RS cars to be pretty boring and mundane to drive like most other VAG cars.
@@DippinItUp1 I agree with a lot of what you said, but RS3 is a better all arounder! Better all weather daily driver, and better sound! It's a little better bang for your buck especially when compared to the M3 imo!!
Flagman checking in! This shoot was fun to be a part of. 473bhp BMW M3, nah; Its well over 500 crank horsepower. Regardless, it was a fortunate stroke of luck to have a manual M3 join the festivities and make this video happen! Good racing lads. See you in the next one :D
I wish Sam would give us the MPH at the 1/4 mile mark, that would give a much better idea of real HP. I can tell you my 3950 curb weight RWD Auto ~540 crank hp runs 12.2 @ 116 mph on the street. That 116 is indictive of HP, the 12.2 can be altered by many factors.
The dude brings some insane races no one thinks of! I love it. This is probably the only official drag race of the CT4 BW I have seen so far. Kudos to Sam ❤
No the ct4v is just that disappointing. I test drive one at Laguna seca for a Cadillac event. And this is coming from an ex camaro ss 1le owner I would take every opportunity to praise gm performance. My base 3.4L 911 with 350hp and no torque accelerates basically as fast as the ct4v black wing. The ct4v black wing gets outrun in a straight line by the m340i let alone anything with an s58. The ct4v is a nearly perfect car in every other way it just has a competley disappointing engine.
Our ATS-V'S have the LF4 engine like the 4 BW. $2500 in parts, e85, and a tune and you gain 200 whp. We have one making 630 whp and another making right at 700 whp. I bought both cars for the price of one BMW.
@@JoseManuel-cq1ot You make it sound like 0.6L is a huge difference or something🤦🏼♂️ …nice cars but I’d rather get the CT4 and do a simple tune that wakes them right up with 500+hp and still have $20,000 in my pocket
The bw launch control does give you wheelspin but i got two 4.2 sec 0-60 runs with it on. (I only tried twice). You can see the power diference once in third gear. I bet the m3 has 40+ more whp than advertised. Lots of people ragging on Sam's skills but i think he was within a few tenths of what the bw is capable of stock in the 1/4.
@christopherpickens1478 ones German and ones American. Kidding aside, the power band on these engines even from 80s are just remarkable. Just bc they have similar HP and torque, and even weighs almost the same, this is where true engineering shines. Hell, the black wing has almost 70ft/lbs torque more and still loses
@christopherpickens1478 I agree... I don't wanna dog the guy bc I like the content but yes, it was super cringing everytime he slams the gear shift.. bro they go into gear even with just a force of your pinky why are you slamming the gears so hard. I would never let this guy drive my car. He'll probably bent the shift shaft
Do a road course test next, performance is a lot more than just acceleration, every test for road course the Cadillac skunks the Bimmer, that is engineering.
@@robertburr7407u dumb? The regular m3 comp xdrive or m4 xdrive smoke it as shown here and on car and drivers quarter mile times and 0-60s. U don't need the CS version 😂😂
Sam! We been waiting this video for the longest and you are the only one that have made it happened. Good choice on having the lower HP M3 instead of the competition versions. That cadi looks good and moves good. But you are the first one that put them on a head to head and letting the cars talk instead of doing a “blind review” with favoritism towards any of them.
I sold BMW and the longer in gear acceleration helps and the elasticity of the engine is its strong point. Apparently the CTSv4 Blackwing has a great chassis and feel..buy what you enjoy.. I still enjoy my 6 speed e90 more then the new cars I drove, different experience. Best pick is the M340 tuned. So much potential.
We all knew this outcome, but the brilliance of the CT4-V Blackwing is its chassis and manual gearbox, not its outright power. The M3 is fantastic though.
@@layne4376well he has to come up with some excuse, because slower on the road course too. Surprised he didn’t bring up the nose as another excuse either.
@@KDbeats19 The BMW has a better performance, better handling, better driving experience, better buildquality, better interior, and most importantly a better brand recognition with a car known for motoersporting. Everyone will remember the M3, but a few will recall that CT4 V Blackwing.
Just a thought.. I know the size difference, I know they're not exactly in the same "class" but everyone who is in here talking about how the BMW is faster and has more power.... Lol at price points... Throw some sticky ties and a lil bolt on power to the caddy and the BMW is toast... Or put it up against the M2 that is actually in it's price point and watch the beemer boys cry... When a car is ~15k more expensive (depending on equipment) it's always going to out perform in some areas... But seriously let's get real, caddy guys will get the caddy, beemer boys will get the m3 good video guys really liked the content.
Id rather the ct5-V blackwing for the price and it will hold its value much better and for longer with the 6spd and lt4. You pay m3 money for m5 CS performance and have the manual. I digress. Both cars are pretty awesome and for the price the ct4 is hard to beat.
?? If you watch the Haggerty channel review you will see that on a track the CT5 blackwing is faster than the M5 cs! M5 cs in a straight line will easily win but that not the reason the blackwing was made!
Considered doing that with mine, just did the 1200 mile service but can’t let it go. It’s a monster and a blast to drive. Not much stands a chance stock for stock. I wish the turbo s wasn’t so expensive
@@davidwade7681 not for me but I respect it. My M3 is my daily, I prefer a fast daily and an exotic. Just can’t justify the price of huracans, f8’s etc. the m3 comp x is so capable it has curbed my urge for a super/hyper car. This car literally saved me money lol
Yeah on paper they look similar but on the dyno the BW puts down 415ish WHP and the M3/M4 puts down 500+ whp. Big difference. Also i noticed you didnt use the launch control on the BW. Not sure if the m3 has launch control.
I just bought a 2020 CT4 V with the 2.7L turbo. And i absolutly am inlove with the car. Been driving it for about 3 months. Its fully loaded and i will say ill wait a few yrs and look to the blackwing. This was a good race to see
This was the expected outcome. I'd love to see the difference in a track race instead. M3 obviously has more hp than listed but surprised how fast it really is. I'd still take the blackwing any day. Looks better and won't be in the shop constantly. Also way cheaper to maintain and more reliable.
Sporting comparisons are more important than insulting each other. As a BMW fan, I think it's good to have a new competitor - see CT5-V BW and M5 Comp.
I'm from Germany, or rather Bavaria, where BMW is at home. I had a BMW 7 Series and a BMW 5 Series myself. But then I had a Cadillac Eldorado and a Cadillac STS. Cadillac is also my favorite brand. So much elegance, great technology, luxury and beauty combined with sportiness is unique. And still cheaper than the competition (BMW, Mercedes Benz, Audi). No other car brand can do that. It doesn't get any better than this. Cadillac!!! 😊👍🏼 Here is my only video that I made myself .... from my Cadillac at the time: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Wl5Xe89MmtY.htmlsi=j9nYoX4hP325c1rj
Great comparison. As others have mentioned the M3 is underated. I had a 2021 M3 base auto, non X drive. Now I have a 22 Blackwing w carbon package. 10 speed. My honest opinion M3 Quicker acceleration Better looking interior/Materials Better looking wheels Better finish overall Blackwing A tad slower overall/ seat of the pants Rides better w/ magnetic suspension Feels more planted Fit and finish a tad on the lower side I feel it looks better overall than the Beamer, except the wheels. Thinking of doing JB4 / down pipes/intake. Should take me to 600+ at the wheels.
you're high if you think a JB4 tune will pump 600 wheel HP lmao. Owned many AMGs and S line audis and a few M cars, legit delusional if you believe some cheap ass tune and some DP will pump out that much more HP.
I had a f82 M4, then an ATSV (now have a 4BW). I feel like your assessment is spot on. I do think the f82 was a great looking car though. I don't know wtf BMW is thinking these days with the styling, the new 7 is an atrocity, and this coming from someone who didn't hate the Bangle era.
@@bunzaroo yeah, mine was a 19 Coupe in Wave Metallic (blue), one of 4 with the 6mt. The BW is the first new 4 door car I've ever bought. I miss the coupe styling, but nice to easily throw things in the back seat.
M3 on drag race will pull away, same on anything below 60mph. Anything higher they basically stay the same. On track the M3 with cup tires will have an edge but that GT350 still a beast on a track.
I drove a ct4v blackwing and a is500, that Cadillac was quick, but felt so bland with that v6.. lexus felt just as fast, but wayyyyy funner to drive, actually made me feel something. Build quality on the lexus blows the Cadillac away in every way also.. but i always eanted to see a drag race between the two out of curiosity. They both make 472 hp That is500 is special for sure
@@SamCarLegion mann, IDK. It'll be a close matchup for sure. Especially from a roll Either way, is500 is a way better car all around and funner to drive, better engine, also better looking imo. Id take that all day
They absolutely don’t “do it better”🙄………..no one in their right mind would take a fully loaded CT4 blackwing over a base m3, just doesn’t make sense! 🥱👈🏽
This Cadillac should race an M340i, even then I don’t think it would win.. mainly cause of the advantage from the ZF8 auto. If they were both auto that would be interesting..
We all know BMW'S are fast but you guys noticed all the BMW'S always winning on this guy channel? I think he's a bmw fan boy and the race are rigged, u even had a bmw beating a 1000hp trackhawk which is impossible, you should rename your channel to BMWLegion
He's had some questionabke matchups throughout his earlier tenure. He has his favorites for sure. He seems to be more inline with BMW (he owns or owned one) and they are one of my favs as well but might come down to availability and securing cars etc.
@@RDriver2.0 Spot on! We usually pick the highest bidder as the winner . So in this case BMW paid the highest money. So anytime you see a car you love lose, it’s because they paid less money. It’s just fair to pick a winner based on 💰💰💰
Mpower! going to trade in my M235i for the new M2 i had a C6, CTS v1, and an ATS im good off american cars theyre built cheap once i got my 1st 4series ive been in love with BMW
@dubfather2754 lol the seats were amazing until you sat in them. These people on here want to save "the 20k" then find out after they buy the blackwing it's garbage..The m3 is 100% more comfortable and drives better(all around)..coming from someone that owned both & also paid the same amount of money for each one,Bmw for the win.
@dubfather2754 I traded my Blackwing for a manual 2022 M3 . The m3 looks more aggressive, built better,drives better and is faster. I had a hellcat prior to the Bw (manual) and still feel the m3 is just a better vehicle minis the Infotainment. Mopar Infotainment was better than both the Bw and M3.
@@tri3pleagent You're the one that made a silly comment at me kid! You can guesstimate the power to weight ratio all you want, but it got absolutely destroyed either way!🤡
@@germanengineering204 dude...go that way. It's a more powerful car. Add in the guy can't drive stick for shit and there you have it. We all know that car makes quite a bit more than the stated horsepower and the stated horsepower is already 30 more than the Caddy. You sound silly AF.
Both cars are awesome but M3 has more power than the ct4 v black wings I got a little confused about both cars having the same Hp and torque but the price difference of 22 thousand probably m3 will have a lot of space inside but I like both of cars thanks Sam have a nice day
I’ve watched 2 videos with Sam and Cadillac and for some reason I’m not fully satisfied with his drive. When you have similar specs it’s a great idea to switch cars and drivers. It’s just an observation don’t hate on me, I own a 2023 Cadillac Ct5 V and love the power plus the look.
I have no idea why Cadillac insists on sticking to the conjunctivitis headlight and taillight treatment? But it didn't look good at its launch and it certainly hasn't gotten better with time, especially the taillights on this thing. It's a decent enough looking car otherwise, aside from the typical GM interior. But even for the price difference, BMW everyday/all day, even with the goofy grill!
@@JadeaRS4 your 100 wrong my buddy just put down pipes on it and cai and jb4 tune simple tune he’s at 590 whp!! Now hp tuners just released a whole suite of tunes on the pcm and tcm and ebcm which costs about 3k after unlocking the pcm his but will have 660 at the wheels now!! So there you’re 5k in mods
@@GeronimoBigglesthat’s probably one of the funniest things I’ve heard in a while. You have no clue about track driving because anyone with experience would know better. Sorry bud but that doesn’t make sense.