2023 CVO ROAD GLIDE PROBLEMS AFTER 5,000 Kilometers 

It's junk and you got robbed, stop being so happy about it.

It's typical harley they don't give a shit about their customer. They just put it out and don't care if it doesn't work. I had tons of problems with my new 21 stage 4 roadglide and harley didn't give a shit.

@@frankfurther3828 Darmstäder0815, Here. That‘s what they all do today. The more electronics the more robbing. Everyone knows electronics are cheap and the chinese prove it by adding the same functionality into cheap scooters with cheaper displays. Don‘t tell me the displays make the thousands or manufacturers testing. They buy a package - the cheapest option with the most expensive display for the top lines, that‘s all. 3rd world unstructured developers code the crap that marketing is asking right into it without end2end testing and no knowledge, documentation and capacity to remedy, later. Unreliable Smartphone App software is currently the most reliable electronics package on a Bike by far, aside from Garmin XT2. Even BMW acknowledged that in their new systems, but still struggle to properly integrate it for reliable use. As long as Dealers don‘t get good quality software releases and access to patches on a weekly basis, nothing will change. The rip-off is with the manufacturers purely focusing on sales and marketing, the dealers try to survive their squeezed position.

They don't sell a stage 4 from factory, that's probably why they didn't give a monkeys hahahahahaha

They don't sell a stage 4 from factory, that's probably why they didn't give a monkeys hahahahahaha

A rolex isn‘t perfect, many have issues within weeks, just like any cheaper watch may have, a Leica isn‘t perfect in the same, actually worse way, as japanese mass-build cameras of the higher segment are almost bullet proof, I know no Luxury piece that is perfect as the price indicates. Learned this lesson paying a lot of money for many dream luxury items. Shoes, boots, jackets, whatever you touch, it‘s high-grade material quality insufficiently tested with in some cases luckily good aftermarket service willing to be overkindly and helpful and trying if not struggling to fix it, sometimes at extra ultra-luxurious charges. Forget that expectation. Chose proven quality items you understand what they are, how they work and how the quality is applied. Not just by looking how fat the material is, that‘s no quality qualification that‘s just „mass“. Anyway they‘re all ripping us off, everywhere, that‘s the current root cause of capitalism. Very very rarely you find idealists that serve brutal quality and charge professionally adequately. Good quality for cheap is an unfair expectation ripping off the producer.

@@GiancarloBenzina All true. In the early days of motorcycling Harley-Davidson really did try to create a perfect (for the time) machine. That's why the early company was so successful.

Lmfao come back from La La land browngreen933

Lmao! It’s been in the shop half of the entire time I’ve owned it,,,,,,, but “it’s the best bike I’ve ever owned”. Huh????

Harley culture at it's finest!

You're right. That is completely unbelievable. If you did, you can probably track every foot of it from the solid line of oil that painted the rodes.

2 or 3mths hey? Well it was sitting in the shop for 5wks waiting for parts so he’s halfway there 🤦‍♂️

And thats why I bought one and never going to sell it for an m8, mate !!

Just look what they did to it in 2023 and 2024, it‘s been cut to the low „special“ only. As a _motor_ cycle I think the Road Kind is the best motorcycle in the world for decades (FLH80 and later non-faired) and for any future to come, given that you replace the shitty shocks and brakes with something decent high load & performance quality (Oehlins, Brembo).

Just bought a Yamaha mt07 love it

2023 goldwing... Can vouch for it... No problems

You hit the nail on the head!!!

They discontinued the road king?? We have a 24 road king special available to order in the UK???

@@yanceyboyz The basic Road King is what I believe he was referring to.

@@carlbruhn1772 a road king special is just a road king....in different colours.

@@yanceyboyz sorry, the regular road king was chrome with spoke wheels, it was also about 2 grand cheaper than the special.

Excellent reporting, cannot disagree!

rather have an Indian

I was expecting a walk around the RK ... it looks like it's been prettied up and detailed. Let's hope that Danny shows us the RK soon.

Correct, very much so for all manufacturers, even BMW. Polaris, Honda, all struggle with their incompetent approach to IT technology procuring it on the cheap first with high gloss screens.

I did the 128 HD Big Bore on my 2017 SGS. Have 25,000 miles riding from coast to coast, from the beaches of the Gulf and Atlantic to the North Cascades in all types of weather (except snow) from temps in the 30's to 110. Solid motor and parts. Only issue is it doesn't like to go slow. City riding stop light to stop light makes way too much heat. F'ng blast to get into the throttle. If I get another touring bike, I would just get a 114, upgrade to a HD torque Stage 2, Fullsac MX exhaust with V&H slip ons, HD Pro & Auto tuner (DYNO tuned), Wilbers or Legend suspension and be good. I can do without the electronics (always problems with fancy electronics).

It’s about reassembly and warranty book time. Book time doesn’t account for waiting on parts, so you can reassemble the bike, but the tech won’t get paid to tear it down a 2nd time.

@@InfamousCreep Let’s be honest, it’ll take 30min max for an experienced technician to reassemble, $100 max for round trip is good customer service, but yeah, instead just inconvenience the customer for 5wks

Because if you take it back you are accepting what’s wrong and if it gets worse you may not have a valid warranty claim.

I’d leave it.. it’s taking up space in the workshop, keeps it front of mind. You take it, it’s not a priority anymore.

All bullshit

Because BMW isn‘t perfect either, they‘re full of flaws. The difference is that BMW fixes some, not all issues within the bike series and lesser to the actual bike. Something Harley and Indian mostly don‘t, awaiting a new generation with new features to fix it by using other systems or so many new features to distract from the old problem.

Bloody hell that is very sad. Absolutely evil that they made you cop a loss on it.

Stepping into being a test dummy for Harley corporate isn't for everybody.

😂😅👍​@@carlbruhn1772

If you‘re after service and comfort. Oehlins is the worst way to go. They are in expensive commodity to support the highest-end racing department. There, as a racer is where you get their support and the aligned representative shops. That‘s why wilbers, also innovative in racing, focuses more on the mid-range comfort customers, to differentiate. Oehlins won‘t ever and can‘t culturally go that route.

Yes and no, to play R&D for Harley on the Top-Level Bikes, they should discount it by 10 grand. This is not acceptable, even though realistically explainable, as you pointed out. VVT could be really bad, too. But it‘s obvious on the market that good mechanical history (recent) manufacturers have a good control on that, but they all struggle with the entertainment/navigation electronics and smartphone integration - all of them. the bags tough, wow, real crap their thinny skinny wobbly flexibility, worse than the panamerica rear handle and screen, that are total crap, too.

We don‘t know if VVT is really all that good. It‘s pretty new - we‘ll see it with 200.000 miles if it‘s any good. If it doesn‘t last that long it diminishes the value of a Harleay Grand American Tourer.

I don’t get why other companies ( Indian and BMW for example) have great technology and you blend with your cell phone and use other features. They need to step up with this or the younger generations that demand better technology will slowly bypass and eat up Harley

Keep an eye on such stuff, it‘ll never be working. It is the wrong route for manufacturers to build in what they do not understand and are incapable to service just by customer and marketing demand. Instead they should just offer a in their large consoles an open hole with a smartphone wireless charging protective case holder. Cheap replaceable and big enough for big phones or even small tablets. Provide a APT data interface so engine/bike data available by ODB is formatted to be consumed by apps in the same way like strava reads your bike computer wirelessly reliably. BMW understood that, but again tried to be more proprietary and smart about it and F*** it up in their current generation creating the same struggle, we Polaris and Harley, likely Goldwing Owners, too, have. Unfortunately on the big console bikes there‘s not much choice, unless police-versions.

Truth is John nobody owns a Harley because they're any good, and I own a RK.

Sportglide is plain sheiet, that‘s why it‘s cheaply available for custom builds.

HD's are the only bikes that you have to replace everything on them to make them almost usable.

@GiancarloBenzina it's a love,hate relationship with Harley in general for me. Not worth the money in my opinion.

I'll just go to Bunnings and get a shovel & some Grunt straps.

Not an issue. I don't rob banks.

I put a Mustang seat on my Sport Glide. Well worth the money. Can sit on it all day.

Not true. There are certain models that come through a Thailand warehouse for distribution.

All built with all Chinese parts .

Correct All Harleys for the Aussie market apart from the CVO and the new 500 and 350( made in China) are made in Thailand its not just a distribution centre. Most of the parts are not made in USA

Me too

And older bikes with no tech are sought after, and becoming more expensive.

Please explain

What's to explain, motor was fucked from the factory because there was an extra part bouncing around the motor.

A lot of British people migrated to the west island of New Zealand over the years, and it would seem a plausible plan to get away from those huge number plates.

They are not yet available, just a few more weeks...😉

Harleys have become synonymous with customisation so HD have adopted the ‘wtf the customer will change it anyway’ attitude