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2023 Fisker Ocean Review | How Feature Creep & Stretched Budgets Can Kill A Promising EV 

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Much like Henrik Fisker's first company, Fisker 2.0 started with such promise. The design is solidly attractive, the dedication to recycled and recyclable materials is admirable, the 0-60 times are as good as any. Sadly however today's Fisker is a brand teetering on the edge of bankruptcy and I suspect it could have been avoided. Hindsight always being 20/20 let's talk about the Ocean: what it got right, what it got wrong, and why I hope there;'s a company out there that can rescue Fisker this time.
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@AAutoBuyersGuide
@AAutoBuyersGuide 6 месяцев назад
Darn it, on the overlay the gross/usable specs are swapped. Sorry about that.
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 6 месяцев назад
Auto Buyers - Fisker is a FRAUD from outset. Fisker has ZERO IP. Fisker went BANKRUPT before, will repeat. Fisker chose to outsource , rather than Develop own Motors, Battery cells, and BEV Platform.
@scott8919
@scott8919 6 месяцев назад
You still put more effort into this than Fisker did the Ocean.
@joemcdonough7509
@joemcdonough7509 6 месяцев назад
It's all good. I love that opening line Alex regarding the rental. Keep up the fantastic detailed reviews.
@monneyconde2676
@monneyconde2676 4 месяца назад
It’s really nice car, and price is great right now just might buy one
@markplott4820
@markplott4820 4 месяца назад
@@monneyconde2676 - NOPE , not worth it , Dealerships wont take Trade or USED. nowhere to repair it, NO garages. FISTER motors , doesn't support RIGHT to Repair. FISTER , doesn't even have ONLINE Repair manual , like TESLA has . Anyone can Repair a TESLA.
@bruddahmanmatt
@bruddahmanmatt 6 месяцев назад
“We rented this one from Turo so we can help the owner who’s punching the air after last week’s price drop.” Alex saving buyers who should have been watching his channel one owner at a time.
@danhall3450
@danhall3450 6 месяцев назад
Turo: The Final Frontier for test drives! It makes no sense to buy a car without first renting one for a week or so. It is the best antidote to buyer's remorse I know of!
@3NicholasJones
@3NicholasJones 6 месяцев назад
I wish there was legislation requiring service tools to be available to the public. And if a company goes under, they should be required to open source all software so the community can fix issues. A car should not become e-waste if the company goes under.
@welovebavaria
@welovebavaria 6 месяцев назад
Not sure if I want to rely on an open source driving assistance systeme and risiking my life with it
@geraldh.8047
@geraldh.8047 6 месяцев назад
@@welovebavariawhy? The only open source ADAS system I know of (openpilot) is among the best compared to the factory installed system which are not always great.
@foxtrotwolf6081
@foxtrotwolf6081 6 месяцев назад
Legislation will always be on the side of dealerships (NADA $ lobbyists). Not using dealerships puts you at a disadvantage for legislation that benefits companies skipping dealerships.
@JBsC6
@JBsC6 6 месяцев назад
Pretty car but bankrupt and out of business leaves customers up shits creek. Maybe Magna will pick up distribution since they produce the vehicle
@stephenwierzbicki4463
@stephenwierzbicki4463 6 месяцев назад
Alex, Wouldn't be Best to simply make a simple Hybrid or Plug-in Hybrid with Just a little bit Less options. Exterior it's Attractive. 😮😊
@stevevansak7324
@stevevansak7324 6 месяцев назад
Just wanted to chime in to say this is one of the best, most thorough reviews I’ve seen of this vehicle. Well done!
@meandmyEV
@meandmyEV 6 месяцев назад
I’m an EV driver but it is rare that I see an EV that I really think is great looking. This is one of the best looking EVs ever released IMO. I hope they are able to continue in some capacity.
@JustinHall1976
@JustinHall1976 6 месяцев назад
"The earth's oceans are powered by the sun and the moon, but this has a less celestial power source." 9:45. This is why Alex is the GOAT. The subtle humor expertly delivered is just too clean.
@abhi4ify
@abhi4ify 6 месяцев назад
He is the king of poker face
@herbieonline_
@herbieonline_ 6 месяцев назад
I want to get it can someone explain it to me please 😩
@theglowcloud2215
@theglowcloud2215 6 месяцев назад
@@herbieonline_the sun and moon both exert forces on Earth that give us tides (the moon's tidal influence is about twice as strong as the sun's)
@JustinHall1976
@JustinHall1976 6 месяцев назад
@@herbieonline_ the term "celestial" here refers to the sun and the moon. 👍🏾
@Coach-KS
@Coach-KS 6 месяцев назад
Yes, I’m an Ocean owner. Thank you for doing your research and presenting your opinion. Many other reviews seemed to be “click bait”, or the first time driving it. I am in Canada. I had a service issue (rear screen not working), so I sent in a service request on the Fisker app. Next day I had a call from a service person, two days later they were at my house for two hours, fixing the problem, and downloading 2.0 for me. Service tech was amazing, said they are full steam ahead developing 3.0 and 4.0 (Tesla at software version 12..? Self drive just coming out 15 years later? Truck is where, and how much?). So these growing pains are normal for a startup. My wife and I love driving it, and make excuses to go driving. Oh, and I have owned almost every type of car. My 2019 Volvo and BMW had software glitches, my Prius and Lexus had regenerative slip when going over manhole covers, and my brand new Volkswagen would totally refuse to even start sometimes. There is no perfect car. But please remember that some of the people doing reviews are doing it to get paid, just like news headlines. The nastier, the more dramatic, the more they make. Thanks again for a thorough review.
@shckltnebay
@shckltnebay 6 месяцев назад
LOL some pretty delusional stuff there, sorry about your loss
@BjarneLauritzBull-Berg
@BjarneLauritzBull-Berg 6 месяцев назад
I also think the review was thorough although I do not share some of his comments. I am a Ocean One owner since September last year. I am a previous Model Y and Jaguar I-Pace owner. With SW version 2.0 the Ocean is increasingly living up to my expectations although still waiting for the Adaptive Cruise Control and the pre-heating functions for the cabin and the main battery. It is incomprehensible that the review is not done with a car that is fully calibrated after replacement of the 12V battery - so that Calfornia mode and other functions which were affected by the lack of calibration could not be shown - and thereby came through as malfunctions. I have driven my vehicle some 4000 miles and have not had a problem with my 12 volt. To me the front seats are super comfortable and the inside trim fine considering the focus on using recycled materials. The sound system with 16 speakers and the subwoofer is great compared to earlier cars that I have had; Audi, Mecedes M-Class, BMW X5, I-Pace and Model Y. The «mediocre» verdict does not jive with my owner experience.
@Coach-KS
@Coach-KS 6 месяцев назад
@@shckltnebay No loss for me, we drive it every day. No issues with the vehicle, we love it. But thanks for your input. I’m just telling my experience after a month and 2600 kilometres.
@Coach-KS
@Coach-KS 6 месяцев назад
@@BjarneLauritzBull-Berg Glad you are enjoying yours as well! The service tech told me that the vehicle had a safety fail safe for if the 12 V dropped too low. It would limit some of the features, hence the many warning lights. Now that they have figured that out, there will be much fewer errors. My heads-up screen is totally free of errors. I have not used the soft reset since the service tech was at my house. I would be content even with the 2.0, but again the tech was very blunt that the software team is working around the clock to finish 3.0 and 4.0. Fingers crossed you get your ADAS and preheat soon, but hopefully it is fully Beta tested before they roll it out.
@wizzyno1566
@wizzyno1566 6 месяцев назад
​@@Coach-KSno you didnt. You told your experiences then went on a delusional rant about Fiskers imaginary future and your obvious hate of Tesla.
@surenza
@surenza 5 месяцев назад
This reviewer is so much more articulate and easy to listen to than every other RU-vidr.
@JustinHall1976
@JustinHall1976 6 месяцев назад
And reviews like this are why we needed them BEFORE launch.
@welovebavaria
@welovebavaria 6 месяцев назад
I would still buy one if the future is clarified. Hope they get rescued. They could release a facelift model in 1-2 years with some improvements and then increase pricing again while staying competitive against Tesla and chinese companies.
@shckltnebay
@shckltnebay 6 месяцев назад
The Ocean Ultimate is $68k how is that competitive?
@kevinrufner8333
@kevinrufner8333 6 месяцев назад
​@shckltnebay They dont make an Ultimate. And the extreme, the top line, was priced at $61000. What are you talking about?!
@ShaneDenmark
@ShaneDenmark 6 месяцев назад
I think this is one of the best, honest reviews I have seen on this vehicle. I've had my Ocean One for a little over two weeks and, to me, the solarsky roof and towing ability are the best features (right now) besides the exterior design. Overall, I am disappointed with the interior, storage and unavailable features. The compartments under the seat cannot even hold an 8.5 x 11 piece of paper and non-ventilated faux suede seats are already to hot for Florida.
@alex100894
@alex100894 6 месяцев назад
I rarely comment on videos but I appreciate the in-depth review with a neutral take on all the vehicles features and issues, the best approach when reviewing a car!
@Jetter638
@Jetter638 6 месяцев назад
Totally agree with you! Fantastic review.
@michaelgarvin8621
@michaelgarvin8621 6 месяцев назад
It looked like the car had promise, but it was poorly executed. I hope they get things back on track. Great review Alex 👍🙂
@BryanA3115
@BryanA3115 6 месяцев назад
Love the Ocean! Can't wait to get mine! I've had my reservation for a year and a half and have read/seen every article and review. I've driven it too. It is an amazing vehicle and everything I want in an EV... or any car for that matter. The Oceans features, color choices, and wheel options are one of big drivers for the Ocean! One of Teslas problems is that they only have a limited amount of choices.
@fighter835
@fighter835 6 месяцев назад
If you want a well built, solid EV that you can customize, check out Porsche. Nothing comes close.
@BryanA3115
@BryanA3115 6 месяцев назад
@@fighter835 just never been a fan of Porsche and their styling
@inomad
@inomad 6 месяцев назад
Why doesn’t every EV have a solar roof? Using the sun to trickle charge while driving or parked sounds desirable.
@erichg1000
@erichg1000 6 месяцев назад
It's because monocrystaline panels have a fixed (more or less) energy density, and it doesn't really move the needle. It would however keep the 12v battery from dying, if their software vendors had actually coded it right. Outsource everything and this is what you get
@seanplace8192
@seanplace8192 6 месяцев назад
Two main reasons 1) Current photovoltaics are not efficient enough to get any significant amount of energy from what little surface area cars have. Some people have tried to solve this by making a very efficient car that can go further on less energy. So far none have entered mass production, but Aptera is pretty close. 2) It adds complexity and cost to the car and doesn't really have any benefits.
@sneaky_krait7271
@sneaky_krait7271 6 месяцев назад
It adds weight and very little power. If you drive a lot, the extra weight can even cause a net loss on energy
@churblefurbles
@churblefurbles 6 месяцев назад
because its so little power that you are better off spending that engineering and materials budget elsewhere on the car.
@stevee8318
@stevee8318 5 месяцев назад
In addition to the other explanations above, it also prevents a vehicle from having a sunroof, which is a feature most vehicles outside the budget category have
@PraveenVagicherla
@PraveenVagicherla 6 месяцев назад
I already did 6k miles since I got on Nov 10th; enjoying the California mode in Bay Area weather, now at 60’s to 70’s, and the pleasant spring blossoms. Such a smooth ride in Fisker Ocean than Tesla’s, even after 10 yrs in making couldn’t get their build quality anywhere close to this. My Ocean is now more awesome with 2.0 software update & look forward for next software updates. It’s all worth every penny …
@klyded8523
@klyded8523 6 месяцев назад
I feel second hand buyers remorse on your behalf.
@PraveenVagicherla
@PraveenVagicherla 6 месяцев назад
@@klyded8523 certainly you don’t own & drive one.
@klyded8523
@klyded8523 6 месяцев назад
@@PraveenVagicherla You're right, I've got a Durango like Alex 🤠
@bnashiningstar7633
@bnashiningstar7633 6 месяцев назад
@@PraveenVagicherla Bankruptcy!! Loving my Tesla more and more!!!
@geraldh.8047
@geraldh.8047 6 месяцев назад
It’s such a beautiful car. The solar panel might not help much with range but it looks incredibly cool from inside and outside.
@BartSantello
@BartSantello 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for a fair, comprehensive and informative review.
@Frank-t7i8t
@Frank-t7i8t 6 месяцев назад
I love my Ocean One and find the seats very comfortable. My daughter loves the adjustable rear seats, the WiFi and the spacious space. From a happy Ocean owner in Switzerland.
@Daniel_Capital
@Daniel_Capital 6 месяцев назад
This could be one of the best-selling cars in America. How? Apple acquires it and relaunches it as Apple Car, and obviously overhauls the software. Then releases the Pear and Alaska. Would be massive. The range, speed, and design aesthetic are already top notch. Add apple’s unlimited marketing dollars and fanbase and look out, would be massive
@andrewhamilton2078
@andrewhamilton2078 5 месяцев назад
That would trully be the best case scenario for current Ocean owners... unfortunately I think Apple killed their car project.
@infinitiamg1860
@infinitiamg1860 2 месяца назад
Good idea, i actually want one I hadn’t heard of fisher until today.
@Boomtendo4tw
@Boomtendo4tw 6 месяцев назад
I hope they stick around cause the Fisker Pear design and features looks amazing. The front bench seat is an option every car should have. And the Pear rear hatch and front trunk is great
@KentBuchla
@KentBuchla 6 месяцев назад
It’s dead. They can’t attract investors because most of the tech is owned by Magna. Fisker should stick to being a designer or build the next company with hardcore engineers in key positions.
@Sklounst_Actual
@Sklounst_Actual 6 месяцев назад
Even at $24,000, it's too scary. The company really seems done. Edit: And the 12-volt battery dying and crashing systems in 2,500 miles is absolutely unacceptable.
@Boomtendo4tw
@Boomtendo4tw 6 месяцев назад
Kia has had the same issue
@Sklounst_Actual
@Sklounst_Actual 6 месяцев назад
@@Boomtendo4tw Not that I've ever heard of
@sohailakmal3384
@sohailakmal3384 6 месяцев назад
@@Sklounst_Actual Common in almost every EV.
@MuiKaHo
@MuiKaHo 6 месяцев назад
@@Boomtendo4tw does kia also need a service person to fix it? if not, its a moot point.
@foxtrotwolf6081
@foxtrotwolf6081 6 месяцев назад
I'd be happy to get one at $25k, but there are none to be found.
@Mister-Whiskers
@Mister-Whiskers 6 месяцев назад
The most thought out, comprehensive, and honest review of the Ocean on RU-vid. I really want this company to survive, it’s design features are light years ahead of Tesla and way more user friendly. I agree, it could have been left in the oven for a little longer to get 90% of the software bugs worked out before release . If I had a crystal ball and could see five years into the future to see if Fisker is a Legitimate EV manufacturer, I’d buy the discounted 2023 Ocean Extreme for $36,500 without hesitation..In Big Sur Blue!!
@AuralioCabal
@AuralioCabal 4 месяца назад
My " Crystal Ball" says Fisker is BK in one year from now,if not sooner, you got $20,000,000to spare?his mansion is for sale!😅
@fnLV426
@fnLV426 6 месяцев назад
Here in Las Vegas, NV I saw someone with a specialty plate letting everyone know that they got the "1stOne" 😐😬 It's too bad, because its a great looking vehicle.
@GaryBenson-rp7lj
@GaryBenson-rp7lj 3 месяца назад
Extremely well done and thank you. I was considering buying a brand new 2023 but even at $37,500 the fear of their future and warranty plus software update availability has me sitting on the fence. As does the 12 volt battery and the fact you need a factory reset when you replace the 12 volt.
@robertl2655
@robertl2655 6 месяцев назад
I am one of those who cancelled my Ocean One and donated $5k to the Fisker fund. I am glad I did. The laggy software, the missing features, the compromised driving dynamics, the lack of storage, the seats, the list goes on and on. Yes, $5k was an expensive lesson learned but a lot better than the $70k others have eaten learning the same lesson.
@MondernMan
@MondernMan 6 месяцев назад
Alex is the best reviewer - hands down. I drove the Ocean & I liked it. The SW was clearly early but the bigger concern is finances. My next car will be an EV, probably by the end of summer/early fall. I was hoping the Ocean would mature by then but it certainly doesn't look good for Fisker as a company. Too bad as the Ocean looks great in person. As of now, the model Y is in the lead
@o0Dan0o
@o0Dan0o 6 месяцев назад
I own a Ocean Extreme, which replaced my Jaguar XE R-Sport 35t that you helped me pick out! I think you're spot on about feature creep on the ocean, plus platform creep with the pear, Alaska and ronen. Not too mention launching the ocean across the globe simultaneously... The chassis dynamics are really good on the Ocean, but like you mention, when you push it, it's under dampened and under sway bared... For example, there's one freeway to freeway interchange that would upset the XE's chassis at around 70mph, but the ocean is completely stable at 75mph+. However, the ocean doesn't like quick steering transitions, and is not particularly nimble. I would love to see an upgrade option in the future with more power in the rear motor, dynamic dampers and sway bars, and sportier, more adjustable bucket seats. All that said, like you mentioned a few times, this will all require Fisker 3.0, hopefully with new management.
@ClintBagley1
@ClintBagley1 6 месяцев назад
I've had my Ocean One since September 2023 and really, really love this car. Yes, the software and interface can be maddening. So is the problematic key FOB and 12V drain. But I often grab the keys and take it out for a spin with no destination in mind and it always brings a smile to my face. Fisker needs new management across the board. Clean house and get people in there that know what they are doing.
@jaredp8169
@jaredp8169 6 месяцев назад
It’s an amazing looking suv. Interior looks amazing and now the prices are competitive with everybody else. Sounds like the software still needs some tweaks, but common with a ground up system. I think Fisher‘s biggest problem was advertisement. probably 90% of the people never heard of Fisker ocean. I’ve rarely seen advertisement.
@raidensears5321
@raidensears5321 6 месяцев назад
Alex summed it up very well in terms of feature selection at the end. When I was watching the video I had the same thought that a lot of the flashy features were just unnecessary and came from lack of/bad leadership decisions.
@johnd9605
@johnd9605 6 месяцев назад
Great and thorough review as always Alex! Not sure if it was just the lighting or weather making it an illusion but I really like that satin / semi-gloss paintwork on this car.
@anthonydotb
@anthonydotb 6 месяцев назад
Someone with sense finally said what I've been saying. The 500 limit on boost mode makes tons of sense. Those all out launches are so hard on too many components, plus it gets old. It's like a cool party trick when you get the car, but I can't imagine most people are launching their EV's daily.
@final_mile_music9713
@final_mile_music9713 6 месяцев назад
It’s the absolute nonsense of EV marketing. Ie acceleration. Which is all they’ve got really.
@sociopathmercenary
@sociopathmercenary 6 месяцев назад
​@@final_mile_music9713Same could be said of the Hellcat
@jayem8981
@jayem8981 6 месяцев назад
@@final_mile_music9713Go drive a Taycan and get back to us.
@BjarneLauritzBull-Berg
@BjarneLauritzBull-Berg 6 месяцев назад
I have had my Ocean One for 7 months and never needed the boost mode - Fun and Hyper modes gives you more acceleration than you ever need.
@final_mile_music9713
@final_mile_music9713 6 месяцев назад
@@sociopathmercenary other than noise you’re 💯 % correct!
@gamerike777
@gamerike777 6 месяцев назад
9:56 I think you mixed up the usable and gross battery specs, otherwise great review!
@GlitterGuru
@GlitterGuru 6 месяцев назад
I had high hopes for this knowing Magna would build it, but maybe Fisker was too involved in the R&D… I hope owners at least get some kind of settlement. Imagine buying a car and within 1 year it drops 60% in value in addition to not being able to service…
@anthonyc8499
@anthonyc8499 6 месяцев назад
Word on the street is that Henrik's wife is a PITA to work with and is a deal breaker for any additional investments. Wheel Bearings podcast had some information about her role with the company and why she's the reason the company is going down in flames.
@foxtrotwolf6081
@foxtrotwolf6081 6 месяцев назад
Fisker was too involved with building a company. Give him credit, hw saw an opportunity and took it. SPACs gave opportunity for unsorted companies to get lots of $. Remember the old days of lockups where investors had a chance to see where the company was going before founders can cash out. SPACs avoided that so you can cash out as soon as you went public.
@BartSantello
@BartSantello 6 месяцев назад
Which episode?
@anthonyc8499
@anthonyc8499 6 месяцев назад
@@BartSantello most recent one.
@tonespeaks
@tonespeaks 6 месяцев назад
@@anthonyc8499 Blaming her makes no sense, the vehicle was a mistake from the beginning. They started without enough money and IP. Secondly it was priced way too high and the business model was all wrong. The fact that they made a pivot from direct to consumer to dealer, just shows how deep the flawed thinking was. The idea that the wife is the issue is really strange when she didn't build the vehicle or program the faulty software. Magna also built the Ipace and people should see the number of recalls that has had.
@fjrodriguezpr
@fjrodriguezpr 6 месяцев назад
While this car company is DOA, Alex shines as an outstanding and legit car reviewer!! Excellent level of detail and perspective.
@jkywang2011
@jkywang2011 3 месяца назад
Just finished watching your video. It's a fair assement. As a Fisker Ocean owner, I like my car very much. It certainly gave me the anxiety when I got this pre-ordered Ultra version. But after the 2.0 upgrade and the subsequent PKC module upgrade, the car hasn't given me any headache. I suspect the first batch of the 2023 Oceans are lemon. My ultra was built after that and delivered in late February. Yes I agree that some of the designs are not practical. Nevertheless, the owners of the car believe the car differentiates itself from the rest of the EVs. Many things have happened at Fisker since I got the car. I just like to drive this car until the wheels fall off.
@crunchbar2037
@crunchbar2037 2 месяца назад
Hey, I know i would be buying at my own risk. But do you feel like overall it’s a car worth buying? I won’t set it to a high standard, and I would be willing to deal with SMALL technical difficulties. I understand the cons…but this thing has rlly good range and design! It’s different and would be convenient for me. Just curious as to what your take would be on this?
@BearsinGamesNeo-qt5ww
@BearsinGamesNeo-qt5ww 6 месяцев назад
I accidentally ran into Henrick Fisker doing a Karma photoshoot in Vancouver. He was standing in a parking lot I cross on my way to work back in 2011 or so, and there was a Karma right there. I asked "Hey, that's a Fisker Karma, right?" and he said yes and absolutely nothing else.
@greggt2020
@greggt2020 6 месяцев назад
I own a One, been sitting in my garage since 11/23. It's the same configuration as the one in the video but with Maliblu seats, nice looking vehicle. It has 35 miles and works really great for folding my laundry. Supremely disappointed in the way things turned out. I understand early adoption and I was an early Tesla owner so I get it when it comes to rolling software and functionality out, but the entire process from delivery to now has been a complete mess. Everything is hoakie, the key FOB which is a total mess, to the roll back, to the alerts, massive vampire drain, 12V battery nightmare, etc. Fisker, 100% should have waited to delivery the One's and at the very least dialed in the basic software functionality prior to delivery. The thing that gets me the most as being an early investor is the lack of customer service or (ass kissing) with Fisker knowing this car is fractional at best, in my opinion we should have been made whole before anything else was done. We would have been the best advocates for the business and future sales, but nope I have a 72K laundry table and storage unit. Well you live and you learn, was kinda hard to tell how this one was going to play out, but rode the wave and got smashed on the reef. Fingers crossed I will still get some service and the 2.0 update, looking bleak though.
@EM.1.
@EM.1. 6 месяцев назад
I have a feeling the company will eventually get the help it needs with the dumb bridge stepping down. They need good management to get things settled not nepotism.
@final_mile_music9713
@final_mile_music9713 6 месяцев назад
Sorry to hear that. Good luck.
@chealay7251
@chealay7251 6 месяцев назад
Thanks you for your honest review. I'm ocean one owner. You are right the car needs little work.
@sergiysaliyev9023
@sergiysaliyev9023 6 месяцев назад
Why do people like solar panel car roofs so much?100 miles over 5 months = 240 miles over a year, which is ~240*0.30/3=$24 per year of savings assuming 30 cents per kwt for electricity (a lot of states have it cheaper, so the number would only go down), and assuming 3miles per kwt efficiency. It's gonna take a REALLY long time to pay off for that sunroof panel..Or, if someone drives 15k miles per year, it's only 240/15000*100=1.6 1.6%efficiency gain (in reality a little less because this would also add a little extra weight) I get the fact that this is kinda cool (although it blocks visibility from inside comparing to regular sunroof), but practically I don't see it being viable any time soon.
@kevinn1158
@kevinn1158 6 месяцев назад
You always do the best reviews Alex. Objective, well detailed, and you actually have a good feel for driving dynamics. So many reviewers are obsessed with infotainment only. cough cough Marques iPhone guy....
@steve-s6o4b
@steve-s6o4b 6 месяцев назад
They have a battery problem issue as well. My boss has one. Went on vacation for 2 weeks, battery was completely dead. Okay tried to charge it. System wouldn’t allow it to do that. Car for that amount of money, forget it.
@andychen7818
@andychen7818 6 месяцев назад
But the Genesis GV60 Performance has a boost mode, with unlimited usage... Seems really stupid to put a lifetime limit on the Ocean and it's not like 0-60 time is cut by 2 seconds.
@cdbuiles
@cdbuiles 6 месяцев назад
500 boosts included…maybe they were looking into adding it as a per subscription base if you surpass the 500 tries? don’t know….very similar what Kia is looking into with the light pattern arrangement in EV9 …
@andychen7818
@andychen7818 6 месяцев назад
@@cdbuiles you might be right, but don't give them any ideas!
@nateshull113
@nateshull113 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for a real review from a real auto reviewer (looking at you Marques). Unfortunately, it's reviews like this that were needed much more early on.
@dennisdenise1
@dennisdenise1 6 месяцев назад
Beautiful vehicle. Hope they stay in business.
@JJ-yy5us
@JJ-yy5us 6 месяцев назад
This IS what a thorough review is. Don't know why people are hailing mkbhd for giving his "thorough" review of the car
@georgeh6856
@georgeh6856 6 месяцев назад
I have replaced the 12V battery in just about every car I have owned, at least 5 different cars. I always replaced it myself. I never had to have a dealer recalibrate anything, nor have any features stopped working just because it was not recalibrated. The worst thing was having to reset the clock.
@cessysmith4149
@cessysmith4149 6 месяцев назад
I absolutely love driving my Ocean One. It’s a unique car and still makes me smile. 85 degrees in NC and Cali mode is so fun!
@scott8919
@scott8919 6 месяцев назад
I want Alex to buy one used and drive it till the literal wheels fall off. The thought of following him in the ownership experience would be incredibly entertaining for me.
@boscoblack
@boscoblack 6 месяцев назад
I saved my money strategically for years, reserved an Ultra in 2022, put down 20k, and then all this happened after a month of ownership. I feel so stupid, as well as deceived, after being put in this position. I don’t exactly have enough money to go around making 60k mistakes, and now my family will have to pay the price
@lgmisfit10
@lgmisfit10 6 месяцев назад
Praying for you
@MattRoll
@MattRoll 6 месяцев назад
That really stinks man. I'm so sorry. I hope the company stays in business so you can continue getting service.
@boscoblack
@boscoblack 6 месяцев назад
@@MattRoll that’s the best thing I can hope for
@BjarneLauritzBull-Berg
@BjarneLauritzBull-Berg 6 месяцев назад
On my vehicle, Henrik Fisker wrote a message on the tail gate «Enjoy the ride» and signed. This is what I intend to do, hoping like you for my FOO to stay out of trouble
@BremboT
@BremboT 6 месяцев назад
This Fisker debacle made me realize just how many people buy cars as investments. I only buy cars based on my wants and needs. I just hope that you receive all the features you paid for via OTA.
@joeyscleaninglady2877
@joeyscleaninglady2877 6 месяцев назад
FAST (the diagnostic tool) requires authentication with third party cloud servers. When they go BK, even if you have the diagnostic tool, it will be impossible to re calibrate these issues after 12v replacement due to the servers likely going down. It is not a matter of if but when you won't be able to use features in this vehicle.
@geraldh.8047
@geraldh.8047 6 месяцев назад
Such vendor lock-in should be illegal across the board.
@Jaxav8or
@Jaxav8or 4 месяца назад
What is it doing, VIN validation against a SQL db? I’m sure someone could just write that out.
@eseitan
@eseitan 6 месяцев назад
Great, honest, "to the point" review. I love my ONE, but yes, it has bugs.
@johnlang2293
@johnlang2293 6 месяцев назад
32m10s Yes, I too enjoy a firm steering rack ! Seriously though, the vehicle is beautiful and looks amazing, yes its quirky but that range is pretty good ! Only time will tell how it holds up ! Looks wise its great, but it definitely has some strange things that dont seem totally thought out.
@Mguy393
@Mguy393 6 месяцев назад
You got my attention when you went mean girls about making fetch happen. LMAO. I had to rewind to ensure I heard that correctly.
@JamesM-hb2cj
@JamesM-hb2cj 6 месяцев назад
Alex, legit question here. You said this was better than the I-Pace … what are you basing that on? I get that it’s better for road tripping based on range and charge speed, but as we know 90% of charging is at home. IIRC, nearly every ipace review mentioned how well it drives and handles, it has adaptive air suspension, much nicer interior, CarPlay, nicer physical controls for all important features, more adjustable seats, more cargo space, a small frunk, and acceleration is only .1s slower (.3 in Fisker boost mode) but both are extremely quick. Not to mention, the Jag has a dealer network to fix issues and give you a loaner car. I’m just not sure I understand it, unless of course you road trip constantly. I do think California Mode is super cool, if it worked of course ;) Thanks and keep up the great work!
@NashvilleUK
@NashvilleUK 6 месяцев назад
Also if you wanted to save money you could get an approved-used iPace and have a usable warranty! A used Fisker is even more worrying than a new one!
@davidlemieux615
@davidlemieux615 6 месяцев назад
Although it should be noted that things are not going well at Jag either in terms of transition to BEV. I fear they may not make it.
@JamesM-hb2cj
@JamesM-hb2cj 6 месяцев назад
@@NashvilleUK agree completely, a CPO I-PACE would be a much better purchase than a new or used Ocean.
@JamesM-hb2cj
@JamesM-hb2cj 6 месяцев назад
@@davidlemieux615 fair point, but Jaguar is the “J” in JLR … point being there will continue to be a dealer network with repairs and loaner cars available for quite some time. Maybe not forever, but at least long enough to feel secure
@kevinrufner8333
@kevinrufner8333 6 месяцев назад
I own a One. Few odd design features. Regen braking needs adjusting. I have a few odd errors and mild computer issues. But in all I really like (not love) this car. As for cost, the only comparable is a Tesla model Y. I had two and hated them. So $68000 for my Ocean One (when I ordered it in 2022) was alright. Minor tweaks and fixed software and this is a great car. Problem is the management. Money wont fix the problem. New owners who kick out the Fiskers is required in any solution (likely after bankruptcy.)
@Tinrs80
@Tinrs80 6 месяцев назад
I agree. I dont ANY car company to go under or away. No argument some should do better.
@ctclardy
@ctclardy 6 месяцев назад
Too bad about the financial problems... I thought it was one of the best-looking and designed EVs coming into the marketplace... though, I'm sure quite a few more start-up EVs are going in the same direction shortly.
@PeteNPiano
@PeteNPiano 6 месяцев назад
Good review, couple points. Majority of Ocean One's were committed to in 2022 under the old tax incentive program so unless your provider made a bad buy, incentive was applied to that vehicle you drove. Fully Loaded Model Y performance at that time was ~80,000. Tesla has moderated its pricing thrice or more since then due to explicitly competitors like Fisker bringing to market more competitive opportunities. The proper comparison for value would be the Ocean Ultra trim vs Model Y Performance if the considering factors are range, HP & 0-60mph.
@Rioichi4
@Rioichi4 6 месяцев назад
Okay there's a lot of dumb things about this car but I gotta say I LOVE that solar roof. Eating trays are pretty cool too, wish more cars had those for the passengers for long road trips. I thought the rotating infotainment was nifty, until you said it can only be vertical while driving. Also I know these reviews are aimed at people buying a car, but it's cool to see how the cars fair in a rental situation. Also also, not that any EV Startups are reading this, but creating a new product 101: dont wait (or spend) until you think your product is perfect. Get it to like 70% of what you want, and then release it and TAKE FEEDBACK to make it better. Fiskar put way too much into inital models that could have been added later with more feedback and more money.
@pnketia
@pnketia 6 месяцев назад
This reminds me of a longer and wider Range Rover Evoque.
@coolpix222
@coolpix222 6 месяцев назад
People are upset because they advertised for a long time 550 HP, not 468 HP. They are basically over -driving the motor for boost mode. Fisker kept this secret until after the many people gave their non-refundable deposit for an Ocean One. It's bait and switch. Fisker oversold and under delivered. Bait and switch is how a lot of us see it.
@sandipmallick1500
@sandipmallick1500 6 месяцев назад
What about the decent range when compared to other EVs?
@zartanr6601
@zartanr6601 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for being honest, and I will believe you much more than I would the other guy who has only reviewed 40 cars since he started his auto channel. MQB is far from an expert, likable guy but shouldn't be considered anywhere close to an authority on cars, no one should listen to Marquez about cars, he's super limited, a novice. Having access due to RU-vid popularity doesn't mean you know what you're talking about, so please REAL CAR REVIEWERS put him in his place. Thanks again Alex.🙏🏾
@plixie1
@plixie1 6 месяцев назад
The renters broke the air vents. The amount of people who wont say "hey google, how do I adjust air vents in this car" is nuts.
@GatoGamingSi
@GatoGamingSi 6 месяцев назад
First time watching the channel, very well and immaculately done. Got a new fan. Thank you for your detailed review.
@AAutoBuyersGuide
@AAutoBuyersGuide 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it! -Travis
@ericgregori
@ericgregori 6 месяцев назад
Beauty is only skin deep. Tesla - The font is too small makes national headlines. Fisker - All warning light are on, do not worry about it.
@skytech2501
@skytech2501 6 месяцев назад
the amount of Tesla hate the mainstream media spewing is mindboggling, on the plus side don't trust mainstream media anymore
@pine111
@pine111 6 месяцев назад
You must be out of the news cycle because Fisker failing is all everyone is talking about nowadays.
@JP-sw5ho
@JP-sw5ho 6 месяцев назад
I haven't driven an Ocean, but from that perspective at least it feels like you nailed this review
@sincladk
@sincladk 5 месяцев назад
Did Alex just casually drop in "make fetch happen" in the closing thoughts? A true professional.
@nevco8774
@nevco8774 6 месяцев назад
If Fisker doesn't find a financial backer in the Middle East the way Lucid Motor did then it will be sad to see it go away. However the real life has its adjustments. History has shown that hundreds of very unique and promising car manufacturers went extincts in the beginning of XXth century and some of them were plagued with problems in the USA until the 70-80ties when the last traditional automaker AMC got bought by Chrysler. In the EV transition the fight for survival is reviving those old long gone days of carmakers' consolidation, buyout, bunkrupcy.
@naveenthemachine
@naveenthemachine 6 месяцев назад
I think for what it offers it’s decent Besides there are much worse EVs from established brands. I’d gamble and take the fisker as it’s more interesting to look at and it’s fast and fun to drive.
@davidlemieux615
@davidlemieux615 6 месяцев назад
Much worse???? Really? The bugs he listed are serious and can eventually make this a doorstop.
@arhamkhakwani5851
@arhamkhakwani5851 6 месяцев назад
Then it’s probably the worst gamble you can ever take. It’s interesting to look at, but that’s where it ends. Let alone whether it drives good or not, things like the software bugs, air conditioning not working, and the horrendous flimsy-ness of all the materials, any EV, from any brand, is better than this. Besides, what are you gonna do when you need a repair guy to come out to fix it? Chances are the company could go bankrupt and you’re stuck with a dud.
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 6 месяцев назад
@naveenthemachine well the prices have never been lower, what are you waiting for?
@blackwhirlwind1245
@blackwhirlwind1245 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, go buy one then, you said it’s fun to drive, but I bet you haven’t driven one😂 that established brand that you mentioned, everyone that knows who you are will know that you are referring to Toyota.
@BryanA3115
@BryanA3115 6 месяцев назад
100% agree! I've driven the Ocean and have a reservation. It is an amazing vehicle all around! OS 2.0 really changed the game for the functionality of the Ocean. Materials are solid and the whole car is great quality!
@brnscofrnld
@brnscofrnld 6 месяцев назад
I had such high hopes for Fiskar this time. Its an attractive CUV and had so much potential.
@r5LgxTbQ
@r5LgxTbQ 6 месяцев назад
The 500 boost mode limit seems silly. I think your average person would leave it in eco, maybe sport, and never even come close. So why stress them out with a counter? Eating the 0.01% increase in warranty claims from heavy use by a small handful of people is much better than the PR hit.
@tonespeaks
@tonespeaks 6 месяцев назад
@r5LgxTbQ I think you can buy more boosts after 500
@jaetsai548
@jaetsai548 6 месяцев назад
Very good looking vehicle. I saw one on the road yesterday and it looks better in person. It's the only EV with a solar roof. Too bad the financial position might kill this brand.
@FriedChairs
@FriedChairs 6 месяцев назад
The value proposition is what’s killing the brand.
@dougholmes6631
@dougholmes6631 6 месяцев назад
I hope somehow, someway Fisker makes it.
@Snafu2346
@Snafu2346 6 месяцев назад
nice design. That's all. Its too bad, was hoping for it to do well as competition is good in this segment.
@Crazypostman
@Crazypostman 6 месяцев назад
Yes they should have made the screen useable in either orientation all the time. The bottom air conditioner controls should adjust up whenever screen is in horizontal
@monsterpatbro1041
@monsterpatbro1041 6 месяцев назад
I think its an awesome vehicle. They will get an investor to jump in soon. When they priced it Model Y was around the same amount. A lot of people are hoping they fail, which is sick.
@EM.1.
@EM.1. 6 месяцев назад
I am with you. They need to continue with a new investor and management. HF should stick to designing.
@andrewhamilton2078
@andrewhamilton2078 5 месяцев назад
Finally an informative & fair review of the Ocean. Nice work!
@AI-Investments
@AI-Investments 6 месяцев назад
I love my FOO ❤
@davidlemieux615
@davidlemieux615 6 месяцев назад
But isn’t that but one letter short of ***L?
@pine111
@pine111 6 месяцев назад
@@davidlemieux615Let people enjoy their cars.
@jamesh1641
@jamesh1641 6 месяцев назад
Financial future is in doubt without that last big cash infusion. The influencers pushing this vehicle are bordering on irresponsible. A really iffy purchase of a really iffy company.
@jovymac7986
@jovymac7986 6 месяцев назад
And why limit the owner’s option? Why not just print a warning or suggestion to only use boost 500 times, what’s the need for the counter just to decrease acceleration time by 0.3 seconds? The model Y is priced at $50k and is a better EV all around.
@Angelboy99
@Angelboy99 6 месяцев назад
Just too many detailed accessories that cost money for no justifiable reason. Munro would shave off 20K$ of unnecessary gadgets, starting with the screen.
@KKop
@KKop 6 месяцев назад
Appreciate the heads-up on Fisker's financials, but have to wonder why no similar intro to the Rivian R2? The R2 factory hasn't even been built yet, and Rivian is burning through its billions at a fast pace.
@watchreport
@watchreport 6 месяцев назад
I guess because they are in trouble but not in as much dire trouble as Fisker.
@MrJlacroix
@MrJlacroix 6 месяцев назад
For clarity regarding “Boost Mode”: You can boost as much as you want. The 500 limit applies to the warrantee only. Going over 500 boosts will void the warrantee but you can boost as long as you want.
@r5LgxTbQ
@r5LgxTbQ 6 месяцев назад
I had one reserved, glad I canceled in 2022. I wonder if Magna could buy them up and start their own marque. They already build the thing.
@tjs114
@tjs114 6 месяцев назад
That would be ill advised. Many of the Fisker problems are due to Magna acting solely as a third party manufacturer without applying any in-house review of the product. Remember, Magna built both the Jaguar i-Pace and e-Pace and no one could say either were well thought out vehicles because they are built to order by a non-vested third party. Fisker lacks any real automotive construction experience so they couldn't look at the Magna process and say, "no- fix that there." They treated car building like it was a cellphone.
@davidlemieux615
@davidlemieux615 6 месяцев назад
I’m just waiting to hear of that rotating screen (which actually sometimes hesitates while turning) freezing up in winter… at 45 degrees and blocking something important!
@vroomz28
@vroomz28 6 месяцев назад
At 1:27 in the video, when the lights go off, the wipers move! 😮 Is that a bug or a feature?
@mclovin6629
@mclovin6629 5 месяцев назад
"We rented this one from Turo so you don't have to" is crazyyyyyyy 🤣🤣😭😭 You're funny Alex, That made my day 🤣🤣😭😭😭
@chriswu3326
@chriswu3326 6 месяцев назад
They sell the extreme as the price of a model Y rear-wheel drive. Which is crazy competitive, there might be some people risk it idk
@chriswu3326
@chriswu3326 6 месяцев назад
for numbers, they sell it for 38,000 ish for the extreme trim, which still cheaper than the inventory price of a basic Model Y Rear-wheel drive
@josemunoz-rg8kj
@josemunoz-rg8kj 6 месяцев назад
Hope they get bought the fisker line up looks really good
@Tully3674
@Tully3674 6 месяцев назад
My take-away of this video is Alex reviewed a modern day electrified Yugo.
@jovymac7986
@jovymac7986 6 месяцев назад
He tried very hard to present the good points of the vehicle, but he also had to tell the truth for the integrity of the channel. 😅
@foxtrotwolf6081
@foxtrotwolf6081 6 месяцев назад
If the Yugo was $15k instead of $3k.
@laloajuria4678
@laloajuria4678 6 месяцев назад
lol equally good as an april fools joke....
@kevincinnamontoast3669
@kevincinnamontoast3669 6 месяцев назад
Excellent vehicle for a family. Good seats,door handles and carpets. Lovely sense of ennui. I predict a sales leader.
@FriedChairs
@FriedChairs 6 месяцев назад
Bot
@BremboT
@BremboT 6 месяцев назад
They should've started with Alaska, actually. The SUV market was already saturated. The midsize EV truck space is extremely limited. A large portion of EV truck owners are first-time truckers because of the EV aspect. People love trucks but are swayed because of size and general maintenance and fuel inefficiencies. Also, I suspect truck buyers would be more likely to forgive software quirks and bugs. There are only 4 real EV trucks out now (Rivian, Ford, Hummer and Cybertruck - Silverado is fleet only, which means its not out for consumers), but countless EV SUVs. Anyway, they didn't launch with the Alaska, they did the Ocean and here we are.
@apolloxgod
@apolloxgod 4 месяца назад
Alex great video, loved this video. I agree and spot on that it could survive under a company like Jaguar if they can acquire them. It’s a sad story that they seem that they will not make it.
@MikeLoomis
@MikeLoomis 6 месяцев назад
I have been interested in this car since I saw it in a video a few years ago. When they cut the price in half I was really tempted, but I can only imagine what insurance would cost for this now. So close, yet so far.
@Ethanbarela
@Ethanbarela 6 месяцев назад
Even thought this just came out I’ve seen at least 3 of them on the roads in Dallas area
@2023gainer
@2023gainer 6 месяцев назад
Fisker...FSRN.. Rising 2:%® Today. Dealerships in Europe and North America with many selling out in March. Ocean Suv EVs with 4 unique features and longest range in it's class. Recent IF Design Award winner for Best Electric SUV 2024. Thumbs Up video/ Comments.. Thanks for the Review. The Ocean making Huge Waves in the EV sector nearing 7,000 Unit sales.
@FillYourHeadSwe
@FillYourHeadSwe 6 месяцев назад
I will buy one. Hope
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