In this video, I'll review the 2023 Harley-Davidson Street Glide CVO...Special thanks to New Port Richey Harley-Davidson, www.nprharley.com www.ridelikeap... www.tabperform... www.motorcycle... nprharley.com
Great review Motorman. I really liked your comments on the pricing. I can’t afford one but I am not going to whine about it. I will just continue to enjoy my 21 year old Fatboy and recognize that I am blessed to own it. Thanks again for the review.
I owned a 2003 HD for a short period of time. Took it to a HD dealership to get an oil change and they wanted $350. They asked how many miles did it have. Bought it used and it had 10,000 miles so they wanted to complete the 10k check up for $500. What do I get for the $500, they answered that the oil and filter would get changed and all bolts would get retorqued. I traded the HD for a Yamaha FZ 1 a week later.
"Kinda?" They've been ridiculous with their pricing, they've been ridiculous with their lacking overall R&D, they've been ridiculous with their quality and warranty issues...
Thank you to the Newport Richie dealership for letting you do the test drive on this CVO. This new CVO has a lot of upgrades that honestly are long over due on the entire Harley line. I like it, just way out of my my price range!
Well said Jerry, this CVO's are for a small audience just like Porsche, Ferrari, Lambos etc. Plenty of other affordable Harleys Indians Hondas and BMWs
Exactly. People get mad about the price because they want one, but can't or won't spend the money for one. I don't get the anger. I love Ferraris but can't afford one, or even the service bills but I don't get angry at their prices. There's plenty of cheaper cars I can buy.
I LOVE your ending! Is the CVO worth it? I don't think it's worth it, but I'm not the one paying for it. If you like it, and you have the $40K, $50K or whatever is needed to get it - don't let me stop you! And I won't rain on your parade either! That goes against one of my cardinal rules - never sh!t on another man's bike! If he likes it and it makes him happy and it gets him riding then - AWESOME! Love your channel!
As much as I'm a HD man, I'll just have to stick with buying HD bikes that are 10 or over years old. That's a beautiful bike, but priced like that I'd be scared to ride it. And what fun is that. God bless y'all🙏🤠
@@bobberguy1 I paid less than MSRP while most were paying over. I also got a 20% discount on all parts purchased for the bike. I never said what I paid; I simply said the new bike with all the upgrades is not bad compared to what the same bike 8 years ago cost.
I like your take on it, Jerry. Is it expensive? Sure. Is it worth it? Well, that’s up to the buyer. One thing is for sure, it’s a nice looking bike and that CVO is set apart from the rest of the line.
Couldn't agree more. It is the top of the line bike for HD, so naturally it ain't gonna be cheap. People would have complain either way even if it sold for $35K
My 2022 Road glide special was 33,928 before i added extras. 43k+ is what I’ve seen here in SE VA for the CVO’s. I’ve seen 2 over 50k that had additional options and custom paint.
For all the insane hard work it takes to become a doctor, dentist, successful lawyer, then more power to them. I know a guy who owns a towing company and works 24/7. He has a nice house on 47 acres with a huge garage-barn with six motorcycles and trades one each year for a new one then adds thousands of accessories and engine work. Don't forget the farmers. There are a few that do quite well financially.
@@motorman857 100k a year won't support a family and buy a home and two cars in Florida now! Rent a duplex, drive a five year old soccer-mom SUV and have a company car maybe.... As long as you don't take the Kids to any $75 McDonalds outings!
Thank you for doing a short review on the Street Glide. All the RU-vid "influencers" are all about the Road Glide. I look forward to seeing another review when you get to spend more seat time on one. Love the channel.
Not bad, very nice actually. I wouldn’t buy a first year model of anything, BUT after a few years of “gremlin discovery” and tweaks, might consider this. Now, this tech/options/engine will trickle down into the more affordable models at some point and THAT is the real win. 👍
Then add on another $5000,$10,000 to change exhaust and other bits to suit you and your up $55,000 it’s crazy lovely bike I’m a Harley sportglide rider that’s spent $50,000 on bike and upgrades sense 2021
My dad paid 55k (w/ options) incl. TTL on his 2019 CVO SG (it's mine now since he passed)...so I'm actually shocked that the 23's are roughly the same cost.
Ya as nice as it is, I could buy a really nicely outfitted brand new 4x4 off-road SUV (with a sunroof and other extras) for the kind of money being asked for for the new CVO. Plus I was quoted 10k over MSRP by my local stealership (and they wanted to ram their terrible financing down my throat, 4 squares on a paper and all). So I will probably go BMW, Ducati, Honda, or maybe Indian instead.
Looks like they’ll be allot of re-tooling on the accessories to fit this bike. Think of not only Harley but all the after market companies having to re-tool for this bike. 35 lbs lighter as you mentioned is really a big deal! As for me, my 2018 SGS has over 55,000 miles of smiles and better yet, it’s paid off! Run them till they melt is my motto… That’s how I get return on investment….
Fit and finish looks fantastic! HD paint is premium too. Nice things cost. People will always pay for what it is they really want. Sales dictates pricing. Life is short. Play hard. Nice job Jerry.
I actually like Harleys and own the redesigned Sportster S, but I agree the pricing on some of their bikes is getting ridiculous especially when you factor in the lack of tech like others have said. I don’t have social media channels or sponsorships supplementing what I have to spend on a bike so $20k is pretty much my ceiling by far. I don’t care what bike it is or what it has on it. You have to draw the line somewhere. Love my Sportster S though. 👍🏾
I wish I had the skill level to ride a motorcycle like this one! I’m learning more with each time I ride, with any luck at all it will happen. I watch all of your videos, and many over and over again. They are extremely helpful and informative. It’s my belief you have the best available. One day I believe I can be an excellent rider and enjoy every ride without thinking about every move. Thank you so much for your efforts to help others. Take care and be safe!
Harleys are way over priced. Way over priced. They used to offer "made in the states" but thats long gone and yet the price keeps going up. Harleys are far from superior. To any bike. The craftmanship has gone right out the window haswell. Before you say anything to me just know,,,, I own one and have had to put more wrench time and upgrade time on it then any of my other bikes. Its just not worth it. Sorry but not sorry. Have a budlight and enjoy your harley....😢
I demoed that bike yesterday in the "Whiskey Neat" color. Gorgeous bike. Loved it. I don't need all the glitz, so I'd never buy this one, but if the new 2024's come out looking like this, only plain, it will be tempting.
Beautiful bike, price is right for someone who has money and it will always be be people who don't mind spending to show who is who. The same goes for so many other things.
I agree. I don't know about everything there. For instance, I'm newly retired and actually could afford one, but I'd never spend that on a motorcycle. I'd spend thirty, but not that. I think for people like me, it's not a matter of who is showing "who is who", but it's a matter of finally, after forty seven or eight years of labor, it's time to buy something you weren't able to when you were younger with other obligations - especially with the TIME to enjoy it now. I've seen WAY too many of my contemporaries not even live to sniff social security, and if someone is at the point where they can pull the trigger, go for it.
That's all? The local deal was charging $52k for one, but maybe it has some custom mods like special hand grips or something. CVOs have always been priced way too high. Usually 10-20k over the regular model for a nicer paint job and some pipes and a stage 1 pretty much. Between inflation and today's prices, I'll be riding my 2007 Road King for a very long time. It's been a great bike, very reliable, but I sure would like some of modern features. Alas, my salary has not grown as much as the prices of many things. Could be worse. I could have NO bike. Then I'd be miserable. Instead, I'm taking her on a 2000+ mile road trip in a few days. 😊
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The price is obnoxiously high but then again, I’m not filthy rich and have no desire to purchase something so expensive. But there are people that can afford these and will buy them. Joe 6-pack will always bitch about prices they seem exorbitant and out of range. No big deal. Buy what you can afford. Anger over the price of Lamborghini is a waste of energy. The bike looks good and the technology will eventually trickle down into the main Harley lineup.
$40k-$45k is too much for 2 wheels. I own a 2019 Road King and I like it. I would like to have a stereo system but what is unusual about H-D is that if you want to upgrade to a Street or Road Glide you give up saddle bag guards and passenger foot boards. You can add them, sure, but if they are touring bikes like the RK and the Ultra, why not put those items on? Small stuff, I know, but that is something I look at. Good review and it is a nice bike like all the CVOs. Too bad they wouldn't let you ride it farther.
Bike looks great and sounds great! Hope the new engine does well for them! As smooth as a Goldwing?! That’s quite a comparison Jerry! Maybe it is, I’ll have to ask a Goldwing rider that buys one 👍🏼
Great review! Nice bike, but the CVOs have never really been my style, not to mention the diminishing returns associated w/ the increased cost/performance gained. The market will dictate price, as in all free markets, so “expensive” is simply a matter of affordability and what someone is willing to pay for something. Don’t let money control your decision-making unless it’s an affordability issue…time goes by fast. Anyway, if ya like it and can afford it, get it and rather than complain about the price/money spent…enjoy the ride.
I think any new bike is expensive but honestly what isn’t expensive today Everything is , just go to the grocery store What matters is how bad you want it I recently bought a 2023 STD Road Glide I used the money I saved on modifications that I wanted
I find it funny when truck dealerships advertise new trucks for $12K less than sticker to get them out of inventory for next years' models. Think they are losing money. They are just offering at invoice price.
@@mojomanmurph1925 Before Covid you could actually talk down the price of a truck compared to today they expect you to pay sticker price for everything
Always love your honest reviews, Jerry. Thank you for that. So yesterday I went to Henderson Harley outside of Las Vegas to check out a few bikes. They had the 2023 CVO RG in whiskey neat. The price tag on it was $52,K, that's right. $52,000 bucks. I've owned several CVO's, up until last year I used to buy a new one every year. 2023 marked the year I stopped buying a new CVO every year. I'm blessed to be able to afford a CVO, but I just personally can't justify the $52K price tag. Where does it end? I do understand that the value of something is in the eye of the buyer.
Three years ago HD was like “we need to save the business”, someone there had the great idea “lets build ridiculous expensive motorcycles!” Everybody else, “lets do that!”….
Thank you Jerry for the wonderful comments and observations on the CVO models, I have a 2022 CVO Road Glide and yes it’s expensive but I love mine completely. Wouldn’t take anything for the overall ride / performance. Mine has the 21’’ front wheel and that seems to really make the bike more stable at higher speeds but that just my opinion. I do agree it’s a lot of money but YOLO 😎
I’m almost 70 still riding my 79 flh , one rebuild, than a new S&S motor ,runs great for what I ride , HD can kiss mass for 44thousand, that’s why the are in trouble, screwing the customers and they old school dealers .
If people thought they were getting screwed, they won't buy it. But every year they've had a CVO, they sell out. You won't find a 3 year old or any Harley sitting in the showroom gathering dust.
There is nothing anyone can say to justify that much money for a motorcycle. I'd have buyers remorse before I got it home. Beautiful motorcycle, but not $42K beautiful and not Goldwing smooth
The CVO'S stole the show at the 120th and I have no doubt they'll sell just fine weather people can afford it or not, my dyna street bob with the 110 tire shredder runs like a beast so I'll stick with that!!!
Prices for everything have been and continue to go up. There are a handful of factors influencing these price hikes that make sense while some don't but there is a lot going on behind closed doors that we may not know or understand. Wanting a quality motorcycle is one factor that is going to influence the sale price. Research and development to achieve a high standard of quality and performance is one. Cost of materials and technologies incorporated in the design process are surely going to result in an increase. Let's not forget engineering, testing, and production compliance requirements with environmental and safety standards add to the increase as well. In the end the profit margin is not as generous as the out the door price of the motorcycle may imply. I can't even imagine the maintenance and insurance costs. They are beautifully designed, phenomenal performance, and loaded with technologies that would make any rider happy. Time passes by fast and at times we tend to compare the price of the bike we purchased several years ago. This becomes a difficult figure to forget when we look at the tag of a new top of the line bike and leads to shock. But ten years from not our young ones will be the ones saying "I remember when Dad bought a CVO in 2023 and it was a lot less expensive than it is today" I will not see it, but I am confident my sons will see the $100.000 dollars sticker price on the 2050 Harley Bikes, and people will happily buy them. :-)
I own a Harley, so yes I have everything, even a supercar, a used $5000 Hyundai i20. Paid in full and fitting my transportation needs, it is in my book a "super car". 😂
Thanks for the video Jerry!! Does this bike display the engine temp and oil pressure? You mentioned how hot it was there and I would hope Harley finally decided to let us know how hot our bikes get!
Things can't stay the same forever. it's called progress and progress cost money. I love all the people complaining about the cost.. 😂😂 average street glide is what ? 30 something ? The bells and whistles this thing has makes it worth it.. From the electronics...to the motor.. inverted forks... hill stop... heated this and that... all the road controls etc.. this is a bad ass bike... don't hate just cause you can't afford it
One thing for sure, H-D is way over priced! When a two seat motorcycle costs more than a mid-range SUV, you know they've done it. I understand that we're talking luxury, but we're also talking motorcycle. Crazy!
Thx for the review Gerry, price will always be talked about and that’s never going to change. I also noticed there isn’t a rear saddle bag guard, if you wanted to practice your slow speed skills and and not worry about dropping the bike.. too bad the dealership didn’t give you more time w the bike to do a deep dive on everything.
The CVO's have always been made in limited numbers so I understand why they didn't want me putting a lot of miles on the bike. Within 100 miles of me, there is not a single metric dealer that will let me ride even a new 1800 dollar Honda.
@@motorman857 I inquired about that and the dealerships said they just couldn't afford the insurance on them. That is one great advantage Harley has over it's competition.
Keeping everything in perspective here.. the top of the line HD, the new CVO, with all the extra goodies, incredible paint, 121" motor, etc... is not out of line. Ford, and GMC, and maybe Ram too, have pickup trucks with window stickers over $100k. Same thing really... Top of the line mc or pickup.. is big bucks. I don't have to buy it though... I don't need or want it really.
Nice bike I do like the styling of it, and I've test ridden the 60k CVO too. Is it 60k nice? Not for my money it ain't. I have never paid 40k for a bike and I won't and I actually could afford it and no wife to get mad at me either LOL! The other thing is that it has a bunch of "new to market" items on the bike. As a personal rule of thumb, I avoid vehicles with "new to market" tech at least for the first year. I learned that lesson years ago with a then brand new Chevy pickup I bought and it gave me a harsh reminder.
What people don’t realize is if you buy a regular Street Glide and load it up with exhaust, tune up power add all the bells and whistles over a couple years, you will get to the price of a CVO but when you sell it, it will be worth the same as any strip down Street Glide. You loose the value of all those accessories you poured money into. A CVO comes loaded to the gills with all the desirable options and when you trade it in or sell it, it’s price will be much higher than a Street Glide. It’s just higher numbers. Chances are you won’t be bored with a CVO and it will be a keeper for many many years. I know, it’s still crazy high prices and so are Ferrari, Bentley, Rolls Royce, Lamborghini ect. I wish those all sold for $50k or less as well.
Jerry....another nice video! I LOVE the redesign of the CVO. I don't currently one one....my daily driver is a 2021 RGL. I hope the redesign carries over into the RG, SG, and UL lines. See you at Biketoberfest in October!
Dealer by me in NJ wants 46,609 + tax . I sat on the bike , things I would never change would be the handlebars they are perfect I think they are 12" .The handgrips grips( very comfortable ) the floor boards & foot pegs.. and its the silver color which I do not like... If you noticed a lot of the RU-vidrs are buying them they have the money from their videos.
the prices on hd has gotten insane. but the real issue for me is that there isnt anything "cool" about their bikes to me anymore. my vtx1800 is more than enough bike to get my wife n me around. if i get an hd itll be something just for me and will definitely be an older evo model, which is what i grew up drooling over.
The first thing I noticed is HD did not invite Jerry to the 120th to ride the new CVO. Because Jerry is the only RU-vidr that tells it like it is. LMFAO. The new CVO sounds like my moped.
Actually, I couldn't make this intro. And H.D.'s people let you say whatever you want about their bikes. They never censor you. If they did, I would never go on one of their intros.
GREAT REVIEW, JERRY! I recently purchased an Anniversary CVO Road Glide which I like very much, however I’m a bit confused as to why Harley didn’t include the larger engine (121), the “big screen and the upgraded fairing on the “Anniversary’ model. Just sayin’.
I dont own a Harley, but if ever, would would be more on the Classic side, as long as it didn't leak oil - That console leaves little room for personalization - Okay now how to finance a bike that costs over $40,000.00 - To have $1.00 dollar in your pocket you have to gross or earn at least $1.40? So if you paid for the bike outright it would actually be $56,000. When talking about a loan, now you are looking at over $70,000.00+ ?
I think that the people looking at this vid may seem like they’re complaining but perhaps they’re not. Just maybe they want more of a bang for their buck. That’s all. The 2023 CVO is a beautiful bike. However, it lacks the vast majority of features that other lower cost motorcycles come with….i.e. e-suspension/shocks, e-windshield, plush seats (1or2up), driving modes (rain, standard, sport), as well as others. I have a 18 HD RGS and a 23 Indian Pursuit Premium Package that I just purchased 1 month ago. Of course, I would have purchased this year’s CVO but decided to go with the Pursuit instead because it comes with way more options included vs the CVO. Again, I don’t think that riders can’t afford to buy the bike. It’s just that they’re being smart by not getting caught up in the HD hype as I’ve personal done once or twice. Why should one purchase the CVO when it lack the most “essential” and “common sense” features out the box in which I have listed a few above? For me, that cost them a sale. That was the deal breaker. What the CVO lacked out the box is what enticed me to purchase the 2023 Indian Pursuit PP as my second bike. :)
I paid over 41K for my 19 CVO so 4 years later with a complete makeover to pay 43K doesn’t seem too bad however dealers are marking these up 6-8K from what I’ve been hearing so I don’t need one that bad.
We all know the costs of things but another way to look at it is what do you really want? Or maybe what can you live without? For example: do you need a new bike? Get one used with 3-8k on them and save some cash. Do you need all the newer tech like RDRS, ABS and other associated upgrades? If no then get an older 2016 or lower bike. Do you want a M8 motor or do you like the Twin Cam? Again that will change the cost and age of the bike. In the end if it runs, is safe and has been taken care of you can get in the wind and enjoy the ride. Most people don’t ride 10k miles a year so get one thats for your riding style. Buying new of anything is not for everyone. Hell I’m looking at a 2019 CVO at an asking price of 38k. Would I pay that no way but some one will pay 35-38k for it. I can find new SGS or RGS or ST models for much less brand new. Get an extended warranty some upgrades and still pay less than a used CVO. Personally I don’t like the look of the new CVO bikes. I just became comfortable with my 2021 SGS M8 compared to my old Twin cam 02 Fatboy. They are different in feel, power and sound. The CVO line in my opinion is just for the people who want the best that Harley has to offer at the moment. I didn’t say the best out there just the best they have to offer. The shocks should be better, the motor should be bigger and they should have a reverse gear at a minimum. Hell I would love to see side obstruction sensors on the mirrors like many autos have and some cameras but I do like tech stuff more than most. Cameras may help us with insurance in the neglect of others who seem to not see motorcycles on the road. So get an older bike save some cash and build it the way you want. I think you would be much happier and it will cost less. Or get a new one at the base model and build it the way you like. Especially if it’s last years model but still on the showroom floor. It will be red, black or maybe white but it’s the cheapest way to go with new in the touring line. Lastly be aware of insurance and what it costs to replace add ons and accessories if you get crazy with them because if you buy a 15k bike and put 15k of accessories on it you better have those covered well or a wreck will hurt more than your body. Most accessories are not covered well and as bikes age they are not covered worth a crap and for a short period of time.
I bought the first R18 my dealer got. Really didn't like it and 6 months later they were discounted 10,000. They would even take it as a trade for a different new bike. They said they couldn't sell them. I understand they are better now.
I prefer the Indian Challenger but HD did a great job getting rid of those goofy side by side headlights on the RG, at least HD is moving in the right direction.
I love it. Good review. I would rather have gauges, though. But nice bike. I can't afford this one. The SGS was an envelope pusher for me a few years ago. But I do dig this one.
Got to learn to walk away from the deal if it ain't right. All the vehicle, atv, motorcycle, boat dealerships are using the "how much can you afford monthly payment" sales tactic then nickel and dime you when signing the papers.
I love my Harley’s but this new style is not my cup of tea. I’ve got a nine year old ultra limited and I honestly like the thump of the twin cam better than the M8.
I've said it before I'll say it again, for the working person, HD is going to price themselves out of business, that's why so many HD owners still have their 06's-2015's
The price is high, but so is everything else now a days. Thier custom vehicle operation bikes will always have more bells and whistles then your standard though
I had a Harley, Suzuki, Yamaha, but I take my 2018 Honda Goldwing GL 1800 touring DCT over a Harley any day. That’s just my personal preference. I’m 64 years old and have had a broken back along with 22 other broken bones and 6 concussions and the Goldwing is the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden. I can ride for 2-3 hours before I have to stop for a break. Goldwings are expensive but nothing like a Harley.
@@motorman857 Like I said, it’s my personal preference. It’s very comfortable for me, has everything luxury you can possible think of, and it’s a nice quiet, smooth ride with the front double suspension and automatic. Especially since I’ve broken my wrist three times having the automatic is great. I like the ability to change riding modes with just a push of a button. Again, that’s my personal preference. I bought my 2018 with 9.006 miles on it for $23K. When you get into larger touring bikes with all the bells and whistles, none of them are inexpensive. This is my second Goldwing and since I loved the one I had 15 years ago, I had to come back to one. It’s like riding in a Cadillac when they made them larger and smooth.
I just think that the Goldwing offers a better ride at a lower cost. Duel clutch automatic transmission and an airbag for goodness sake. Double wishbone suspension already offers a superior ride. That said, they’re not for long legged folks, as the reach to the foot pegs are for those about 6’2 or so. I had one and loved it, but I sold it as my wife no longer rides. I still own a Road King though. BMW and Honda design their touring bikes to disappear beneath you, like a magic carpet. Harley continues to design their bikes to remain in the forefront of the rider’s consciousness…which is okay with me.
I had a 22 dct tour and loved it... But it's a pretty boring bike at the end of the day. Just picked up a 23 RKS vivid black and the fit and finish it's incredible. I do miss the blue color on that wing!
That storage area's not for a phone. It's for a keyboard. You can put the bike on Full Self Riding and work on typing up your next novel. Or you can ask AI to type it for you.
One heck of a nice bike, and yes the price tag is high, but as a wise man once said, "Cheap work ain't good and good work ain't cheap." I wish they'd make one minus the radio, so looks like either a Road King Special add a windscreen, nicer 2 up seat and tour pack or Road King FLHP 2 up seat and tour pack add. Just out of curiosity, did you ever ride a Police Road King during your service or otherwise Jerry?
Hello Sir I find the CVO trim is not something I want or need on a motorcycle or I would get one. The price you pay is what it is. I have noticed some people (not all) are a little arrogant.
