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2023 Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame Snubs vs Diversity 

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Instead of just ranting about the 2023 Rock Hall Of Fame nomination list - I actually show you a comparison of the discographies of some of these inductees vs some legendary rock bands that have NEVER been nominated. See it with your eyes, what a joke the Hall of Fame has become. It seems to be its more about diversity than actual accomplishment that's dictating this Hall of Fame.

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@jeffrice4713
@jeffrice4713 Год назад
1. Jethro Tull 2. Grand Funk Railroad 3. Three Dog Night 4. Emerson Lake Palmer 5. Blue Oyster Cult 6. Styx 7. Foreigner 8. Boston 9. REO Speedwagon 10. Kansas 11. Peter Frampton 12. Iron Maiden 13. Scorpions 14. Ozzy (Randy Rhoads) 15. Dio 16. Triumph 17. UFO 18. Bad Company 19. Sweet 20. Electric Light Orchestra 21. Motley Crue 22. Whitesnake 23. RATT 24. Dokken 25. Queensryche 26. Motorhead
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Great comprehensive list. Personally, I've never been a big fan of Three Dog Night, but they certainly were really big, and you're not alone in wanting them in. Thanks so much.
@kevindohn6776
@kevindohn6776 10 месяцев назад
Any establishment that omits all these bands, shameful ! I like that you have Triumph on your list,one of my favourites !
@corawheeler9355
@corawheeler9355 Год назад
Agree, the biggest snub is to Jethro Tull. Dozens of albums, decades of music. Brilliant compositions and excellent musicianship. Self-taught flutist Ian Anderson is a genius. Perhaps it's the line in Baker Street Muse, "I have no time for Time Magazine or Rolling Stone". Do ya think? I can't imagine why Tull hadn't been inducted years ago. I'm sure Ian isn't losing any sleep over it.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Yes Biggest snub to me too. I know Jann Wenner hated Tull and Anderson and of course Ian doesn’t suck up to anyone. But should be irrelevant. Full accomplishments and musical legacy and uniqueness more than qualifies them.
@danb.9891
@danb.9891 Год назад
Well said Alan. The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is a private for profit entity, so I guess they can put in anyone who may increase traffic at the museum. However, it's not been a hall of rock & roll for some time. Willie Nelson is an American Treasure, but not rock & roll...same with Dolly Parton and so many other recent inductees. It would be akin to enshrining Eddie Van Halen into the Bluegrass Hall of Fame. Until the MC5, Grand Funk, and The Jgeils Band get in, it's simply the Hall of Pop-Culture not Rock & Roll....😒
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Thanks. Yep totally agree. It’s the hall of popular music to get high ratings and make money.
@OttawaNow
@OttawaNow Год назад
The Kingston Trio * Peter, Paul & Mary * The Spencer Davis Group * Jan & Dean * The Monkees * Jethro Tull * King Crimson * Emerson, Lake & Palmer * Blood, Sweat & Tears * Kool & The Gang * Commodores * Foreigner
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
We all have our favorites, and what's favorites for us is valid, because all music is personal and efffects us all individually. To me....I would vote for Tull, Crimson, ELP and Foreigner from your list. But that's just me. Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
@markv.5962
@markv.5962 Год назад
Guess who
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@markv.5962 many people say that. Personally I’m not a huge fan. Greatest Hits album is enough for me. I much prefer BTO. Thanks
@sakaridis
@sakaridis Год назад
Well said, my brother! We all know what the glaring omissions from the R&R HoF are, but it's really important to see them all in one video, especially with the added visual aid of seeing the albums. I mean, some of the bands' discographies are so rich that you'd think they'd have been in the HoF ages ago. It's a shame, really...
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Thanks so much for watching and commenting. Exactly. Sometimes when you see it you’re like wow. It really is quite a body of work. How can they not be in. Thanks again
@danaaronmusic
@danaaronmusic Год назад
The year: 2400 A.D. The forgotten pile of rubble: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Still selling albums and revered by millions: Jethro Tull. This shall come to pass.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Love it.
@SageMichaelWright
@SageMichaelWright Год назад
Great video and enviable music collection! After the results were announced today, I spent a good chunk of my day thinking about the acts who’ve gotten snubbed over the years…
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Thanks so much. That's my main issue, get the legendary rock acts that have been snubbed in to the hall (most have never even been nominated) before inducting the ones that they've been doing that in many ways fall outside the general consensus of hall of fame worthy rock and roll music.
@tarrtruck2869
@tarrtruck2869 Год назад
You are spot on with your analysis of The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. First of all let's just say what it really is, it's a business, and will always be a business first. Not too much to do with musical legacy or achievement if you're not in the first wave of Rock and Roll including the British Invasion (50s, 60s, there are a few exceptions). The Hall needed those bands and artists to get off the ground. They were pioneers and they had to let them in regardless of how long they were together or how many hits they had. Now there's several who aren't even Rock and Roll artists in the truest sense of the word who are in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and dozens of Rock and Roll artists with large catalogs and years in the business who will never get a look let alone have a shot of getting in. It's a total joke! The place is run by a small cartel of successful music executive types in corner offices who's bottom line is strictly profit. The list you showed of the nominees pale in comparison to stacks of CDs you displayed of the bands that should rightfully be inducted and are not, this sadly happens year after year. The fix is in! It's like any corporation, you have to sell to a younger market to sustain profitability and viability even at the expense of those who rightfully deserve to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame even though the organization would vehemently deny this theory. It's a tragedy and a disgrace.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Thanks for your spot on explanation. You’ve described the situation perfectly. It really is sad but seems to be typical of the world we live in. Ratings money clicks. That’s all that seems to matter.
@davereese6614
@davereese6614 Год назад
If these execs want to have more bodies visit the Museum, all they have to do is simply lower the damn price of a ticket. Sorry, but these days your average family in Cleveland cannot afford the price of a ticket. If any of you reading this disagree, it's probably due to your living in a safe bubble. I haven't gone to the Museum in years. IT COSTS TOO DAMNED MUCH!!!
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@davereese6614 I've never been there so no idea of the cost but that's a shame. Getting to the point and average family can't afford anything anymore. I just heard the movie theater chain AMC will start charging more for better seats. No one's going to the theaters now, so lets charge more. ...crazy.
@tarrtruck2869
@tarrtruck2869 Год назад
@@davereese6614 Everything costs too much. We are definitely turning into a have and have not society. Have you seen the price of concert tickets? To me it's all a price gouge. Someone's always willing to pay the money no matter what, even if they can't afford it. I went to The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame two weeks after it opened in 1995. I don't remember what I paid but it wasn't extravagant by any means. The museum was well- lit with natural light, big rooms and high ceilings. Some of the displays were fantastic. Having said that I was disappointed that some of the artist that were not included at that time but I always thought they would get in soon. NOT TRUE! I've waited almost 30 years for some of these groups or artist to get inducted (and rightfully so) and probably will never be. I had no idea what a political shit show and mess this place was until about 10 years ago. I will never go again. It cost too much now and they disrespect artist and groups who are Rock and Roll and should rightfully be in The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
@martysmith5260
@martysmith5260 Год назад
There needs to be a year when they look at early artists who played "Good Time Rock and Roll." For instance, The Turtles, The Monkees, and Paul Revere and the Raiders were HUGE multi-media stars in the 60's. (Radio, TV, magazines.) I know, I was there!!
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
The Monkees were obviously huge and sold gigantic amounts of records. But still “prefabricated “. Some great tunes for sure though
@SSGLew
@SSGLew 9 месяцев назад
Concur with Marty. For me, it's more about the artist's interpretation of the song (whether they wrote it or not). Examples would be Aretha's cover of Respect, Cash's cover of Hurt. Drake, Fang, and Smitty made PRTR a rock juggernaut (no disrespect to those before and after). The Turtles did more for folk rock than The Byrds IMO. As for The Monkees, it's totally irreverent that they didn't write most of their hits. 4 straight #1 albums, based on their interpretations and dynamic. That being said, The Hall has become a diluted joke that really needs to drop the pretense of honoring rock. Excellent video and analysis!
@Unsweetened8618
@Unsweetened8618 8 месяцев назад
No Brits should be getting awards. Based on copying American music. Them British Rock Bands we're copying...
@caricatures9155
@caricatures9155 Год назад
Sorry forgot to mention George Michael sang,wrote,arranged,produced and played most of the instruments on his albums a real genius who has duets with Queen,Aretha Franklin,Stevie Wonder,Elton John,Ray Charles,Tony Bennet,Pavarotti,Whitney Houston ,Mary j Blige,Paul McCartney etc and even turned down Michael Jackson and received a letter from Sinatra stating how good he was
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
See my other comment - but absolutely true.
@janetmcguffey1394
@janetmcguffey1394 Год назад
shocking what groups were never even nominated !!!! You explain it so well...yes, I was a '70's, '80's kid....remember all the success of these neglected bands....DAMN....BOSTON and Jethro Tull, Kansas ignored?? Aqualung and More Than a Feeling are beyond huge examples of their megahits... The R& R Hall of Shame indeed......yes.."it is a joke" ..
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Thanks so much for watching and commenting and your support. Really appreciate it.
@cliffbunyea8416
@cliffbunyea8416 Год назад
You blew my mind. Marshall Tucker is my favorite country rock and Tull is the biggest head-scratcher. But that Wishbone Ash T-shirt, caught me by surprise. I thought only a few of us ol' hippies knew about them. Great stuff. I do feel bad for the older groups (like Guess Who, Three Dog Night, Paul Revere, etc.) the new voters have no clue.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Thanks so much. I’m a huge Wishbone Ash fan. One of my favorites of all time.
@05645ci
@05645ci Год назад
This museum is misnamed. It should have been named the Pop Music Hall of Fame. It's full of artists that never played a note of rock, and missing many important rock artists. That's the reason the fans get frustrated with the inductees. Ironically, the museum would not have gotten off the ground as well when it opened during rock's heyday had it been named the Pop Music Hall of Fame, but would have been better off today as rock n roll as a genre no longer rules the charts. It changed it's formula to include artists outside of rock to broaden it's appeal to a larger audience, but never bothered to mention it to the fans hoping no one would notice their sleight of hand moving away from rock's diminishing share of the market. The roster looks phony to rock fans because it is.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Thanks so much for your comment. You Definitely captured a part of what is going on
@FuturePast2019
@FuturePast2019 Год назад
8:00 Is it the "Rock n Roll Hall of fame" or ... "Rock n Roll MUSIC hall of fame." They say diversity means less white people, but in Rock n Roll it means less white men.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
I also meant diversity in music. Dolly Parton etc - now Willie Nelson, Missy Elliott and so many others - just call it the Popular Music Hall of Fame - because these people are not really Rock 'n Roll.
@stevenmaginnis1965
@stevenmaginnis1965 Год назад
That's just that point at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. THe Hall is run by critics who think that rock and roll is about more than white guys with guitars. And it is, But they induct acts that are so far from rock and roll , they've lost their focus, Plus, the ywant to own the rockists and nominate acts that will piss the moff - hene, Madonna in her first year of eligibility. And it's interesting how selective rock critics' idea of diversity can be. When rock critics make lists of the best albums of all time, the list is very diverse, but when they makes lists of the worst albums of all time, a great deal of space on those lists are taken up by white men. Merely enunciating verbally . . .
@samrushton5497
@samrushton5497 Год назад
Supertramp made some of the best albums from 74 to 79, with the hit songs to go along with them. I reckon a movie or show feature will get them a nomination.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
I do like Supertramp. Does seem like having a show or movie is a great way to get nominated and get in. Don't think I see that happening for Supertramp lol, but maybe they'll eventually get in for that great album run you talked about.
@isabelle12981
@isabelle12981 Год назад
Nobody beats George Michael
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
He certainly has a huge amount of fans like you. I think he was very talented as well.
@tony-id1xp
@tony-id1xp Год назад
i finally found out that the hall of fame enters all genres of music not just rock,so they should really change the name of the hall of fame to music hall of fame
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Yes. Popular music Hall of fame.
@crichards1986
@crichards1986 Год назад
I have many thoughts on this, but I posted this on Feb. 2 on Twitter in response to Billy Joel tweeting about Warren Zevon and Cyndi Lauper getting inducted into the RnRHOF: "The lines between inclusion and exclusion have become so blurred, I'm not sure what the qualifications are anymore to be inducted into the @rockhall. Are we going to induct individuals based on one hit album while ignoring artists with longer and much more successful careers?"
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Wow - yes - we are totally on the same page. I guess since the beginning they've been doing this to a certain extent. Like I mention Richie Valens. And there are exceptions. There are legendary artists who made an incredible impact with one album like The Sex Pistols....of course now there are like 100 Sex Pistols albums. But it's getting ridiculous to me now, when you look at the mammoth and hugely successful discographies of Tull, Grand Funk and so many more and they're overlooked by a Cyndi Lauper who had 1 great album, 1 really good album, and she didn't even write the hits. And it goes on and on. But I guess the whole world is "political" and who you know and who you suck up to, and how you manipulate the system.....it's hard to succeed in a big way by not playing the game..... Thanks.
@dennisholiday1868
@dennisholiday1868 11 месяцев назад
Grand Funk Railroad set the tone for selling out stadiums and arenas. He didn't mention they had two good live albums too.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow 11 месяцев назад
Mentioned in other videos - I'm in the minority but I love Caught In The Act the best. Also love Bosnia too. Don't listen as much to the first live album. Spectacular live band for sure.
@stevenmaginnis1965
@stevenmaginnis1965 Год назад
The critics never liked Grand Funk - they hated them, in fact - and so they'll never get in.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
They sure did. Grand Funk was like the ultimate people's band. They weren't alone though. Uriah Heep was another one. critic "if this band makes it, I'll have to kill myself". lol. Even Led Zeppelin was critically mauled by Rolling Stone for a long time. I have hundreds of those old magazines and often funny to see how band's reputations change over the decades. People don't remember, but I have the mags to prove it. Critics didn't consider John Bonham a great drummer back in the day. Karen Carpenter finished ahead of him in a poll one year and it severely depressed him apparently. But you're right in that critics never came around to Grand Funk - still hated and not appreciated...unfortunately.
@konradkreuzberg5903
@konradkreuzberg5903 Год назад
You´re absolutely right, Alan! A band like Jethro Tull should be high in that range. Beside this I always see a great difference between American and European bands if it comes to awards in the US. There are bands top in the list that are rarely known in Europe an there are bands, who are top in Europe seems not even to be noticed in the States. Example: I never saw a band like SLADE in an american award-list. These four guys published a string of great records in the 70th and 80th. Forget the crazy outfits and just listen to their songs, all writen by themselves (Holder, Lea) . Their influence to other groups, even in america, has been huge. But at last: music is not sports. It´s all about personally taste. A man who runs the 100 meters in 9,6 sec is better than a man who needs 10,2 sec. But whose music is "better"? Is a better selling act even so a better musican? There are no best of the best when it comes to art or music. I agree to your words that this list of the HoF doesn´t represent qualitiy or influence of the artists but more diversity und selling-rates in the US.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Absolutely. Being an Anglophile I love digging into the discography’s of legendary UK bands that have little to no impact in the US. Oftentimes there’s amazing music there. There’s gold in them hills and it’s so much fun too. But in the end you’re so right. It’s all our own ears and what gives us pleasure. Music is ultimately very personal and there is no right or wrong. But there is some levels of music that is not debatable. Like Beatles Stones Whio Dylan. And to me Jethro Tull being in the shall Of Fame. Lol. Thanks.
@konradkreuzberg5903
@konradkreuzberg5903 Год назад
@@TheAlanRosenbergShow Thank you for your answer! That´s quiet unusual, but it prooves, that you really read the words of your followers and react. We are very close in our opinions and our look on music. You can be sure, that I will keep an eye on your side. Friendly greatings from old germany! By the way: the name "Rosenberg" sounds very german for me. Seems you have german roots, too.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@konradkreuzberg5903 Thanks so much. It's amazing when I hear viewers are somewhere on the other side of the world. It's so great, because without knowing, there's no "prejudging" and you realize we're all pretty much the same. Which is so wonderful. So thanks so much again. And yes Rosenberg my dad told me when I was young means "Hill Of Roses". And that's a beautiful thing.... Thanks again.
@tristramcoffin926
@tristramcoffin926 Год назад
My ballot is Iron Maiden, Joy Division, White Stripes, A Tribe Called Quest & George Michael. Michael was as big as Michael Jackson and Praying for Time is as good a song as exists in the 90s. Iron Maiden should have been in a decade ago. They laid the road for what metal even is. White Stripes are the best band of their generation. Better than The Strokes. The next in this vein to be nominated should be Arcade Fire. Tribe is exception to the rule. When everyone else was doing gangsta rap Tribe took the mantle from De La Soul and rocked jazz rap to legendary heights. Joy Division...I am actually offended they are nommed with the post Curtis New Order in tow. Both of these bands should have been in the rock hall a long time ago. Unknown Pleasures and Closer are both top 50 albums ever. New Order had an entirely separate legacy and should be inducted on those worthwhile strengths. But, hey. If you are a clueless jackass member of the rock hall, sure. Joy Division/New Order is a no brainer.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Forgetting about who I wish was nominated and dealing with reality, I think you're choices are spot on. No doubt Iron Maiden, White Stripes, George Michael should be in based on success, respect and influence. I know nothing about Tribe Called Quest. I of course no of Joy Division / New Order but was never my type of music. I'm a big fan of Sheryl Crow and I would vote her in. I would also put Kate Bush in for her originality and massive success and influence in the UK. Thanks so much.
@tristramcoffin926
@tristramcoffin926 Год назад
@@TheAlanRosenbergShow It is nice to have a dialogue with you, Alan. I get the fan bias. I have it myself but try to look at things objectively. also. Crow had a nice career starting with MJ as a backup singer. Her zenith was the late 90s as a solo artist but I don't know how much she directed anything. She plays to the academy's bias to roots rockers tho. Tribe is worth investigating. I loved them in the day. I have to admit tho when I actually voted it was for Willie Nelson instead. Listen to Low End Theory. That is their best. They will or should get in eventually.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@tristramcoffin926 I’ll have to check out Tribe. I know nothing of them. Big long term fan of Crow. She’s the real deal to me. Writes produces plays. Thanks again
@tristramcoffin926
@tristramcoffin926 Год назад
@@TheAlanRosenbergShow I think you will be rewarded. I voted for Willie instead just cuz he is another guy the Rock Hall has failed who should have been in many years ago. I mean, I figure first ballot country music hall of famers like Willie should at least be in the rock hall within 5 years. How has this not happened already?
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@tristramcoffin926 certainly if dolly is in Willie will be in. He’s more rock n roll and I think more legendary. I think he’s a shoe in
@mondoenterprises6710
@mondoenterprises6710 Год назад
Wow that Tull collection is unbelievable.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Thanks. I do have a lot of Tull. Lol.
@schumi9xwdc
@schumi9xwdc Год назад
Liberal Usurped Hall of Fame!
@schumi9xwdc
@schumi9xwdc Год назад
Frank Zappa admired Ian Anderson and Jethro Tull very much, but Frank got sick and Ian Anderson didn’t want to go an meet him at this point.
@MortenAastad
@MortenAastad Год назад
Yeah, as somone who waited too long to buy some of those I agree! Glad Thick as a Brick got a re-release though so now I have 4 more to go.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@schumi9xwdc I heard that. As a talent visionary and business man it’s hard not to admire Ian Anderson
@websalsero
@websalsero Год назад
I appreciate you recognizing Iron Maiden should be in, although you’re not a fan. After Judas Priest last year, they should definitely be inducted.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Thanks so much. I would imagine itheyll be a shoe in. But with the Hall of Fame, you never know. You’re definitely correct after Judas Priest, Maiden has to be in.
@MortenAastad
@MortenAastad Год назад
Totally agree. Iron Maiden got enough votes by the fans last year, but they were ignored. And I’m a huge Maiden fan. Judas Priest got in, so what, heavy metal fans should be catered for now for the next 10 years?!? Where’s Kansas? Supertramp? Wishbone Ash, Grand Funk, Jethro Tull, Pixies! But hey, hip-hop, that’s rock right?!? Like you said, Blue Oyster Cult! Where are the Riot Grrrls? Sleater Kinney, Bikini Kill, if you want to include women include the ones who can play instruments! Gah!!! Its like the baseball hall of fame ignoring Larry Walker until the very last second he was eligible because God Forbid they let in a Canadian!
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Love your passion - thanks so much. I feel your pain too.
@threadnugent
@threadnugent 8 дней назад
Even Joan Jett thought is was Wrong that she’s in before Suzi Quatro who influenced all those rockers chicks…
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow 8 дней назад
@@threadnugent definitely an influence there. They look alike even. I know Suzi is s legend overseas. In America not known for much more than Leather Tuscadero on Happy Days
@adaalva8737
@adaalva8737 Год назад
I agree with you for the most part. So Alan, since you asking what others think. I have to make the case for my girl Cyndi who have a huge fanbase & leading the rock hall of fame fan vote at #1 for days. She been for awhile on the top 500 artists of Spotify with the most streams. I know her biggest success from her two albums & her third album only sold half a million copies in the USA with only one song on the #6 position for I Drove All night, not a success compared to her previous ones. Her blues album in 2010 did well, #1 for thirteen weeks at Blues Charts with seven songs at top 25, including a #1 hit, and got her a grammy nomination. Her dance/edm album got her two #1 at dance charts with grammy nomination. Not to forget her success on Kinky Boots musical, getting a Tony & Grammy for the songs she wrote for this musical. She is a talented, versatile & underrated artist. Reo Speedwagon deserves to be inducted, great music from this band. Not sure if Toto got inducted, another band i like.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Thanks for your comments - Again - I'm a fan of Cyndi... at least the first two albums. Enough that I went to see her live at MSG. But that was a long long time ago. I appreciate her diversity - Kinky Boots on Broadway, her eczema commercials on tv, a Blues album (I don't know how many you have to sell to be #1 on the blues charts...but doesn't matter - good for her doing a blues album). I just don't think her rock and roll career should get her in YET. Maybe later, but not before the other artists I mentioned who have much larger and in my opinion much better long term careers. Just my opinion. Thanks again.
@Planetcharr
@Planetcharr Год назад
@@TheAlanRosenbergShow with all that mentioned above, Cyndi's influence on the generations after is on the same scale as Madonna. In the MTV era, both Madonna and Cyndi were game changers and shook the musical landscape up. And possibly for the fact that Girls, Time and True Colors (as singles) still outshines many artist entire album output and lives on radio decades beyond sticker date. Cyndi has been eligible since 2008, this is her first nomination. She's waited long enough. It took Pat Benatar how long? Cyndi is in her 40th year in her career and still moving forward. Besides her diverse music portfolio which many of the artist do not have, she has a very lengthy philanthropic history; not just LGB but many other humanitarian causes. She's still active in the biz with touring and other projects still in the pipeline. I believe her long term career still remains at a level of high profile as those still in the game.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@Planetcharr Seems like Cyndi has a great shot at getting in this year. We'll see. She's certainly has been able to maintain a very successful career these decades. Whether it's show productions, Japanese commercials, philanthropy or her LGB support - all valuable and I don't doubt her humanitarian efforts. But to the general music public - her musical success is based on the first two albums - great albums indeed. I saw her live on the True Colors tour with Eddie Money opening - was great.
@davedillon1372
@davedillon1372 8 месяцев назад
Kate Bush, Willie Nelson, The Spinners, Warren Zevon (w/ 'mentions' to Cyndi Lauper, Joy Division; if they're going to name every Band that went through various names re suicides then half in would be out & others would never be out of the running). That's assuming everyone else has already been there. Nelson is only 90+ so if he's qualified to get it - give it! Patti Lupone & Cyndi Lauper share range, pitch- Madonna was never more than a screamer/Dino Valenti. Politics! If I'm going to get to sleep I'm going to visit YES', The BAND's & 1 more.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow 8 месяцев назад
Just change the name to the popular music hall of fame and all will be good.
@Pitchithard
@Pitchithard Год назад
The only reason that hall of fame is there is because off Hard Rock fans from the 70 and 80 that listened to WMMS the Buzzard . In Cleveland , not this Bebop Disco , Country , Rap music that they have twisted into calling Rock.I get having a total show of music but a lot of Rock band have not mad there politically correct image and that sucks!
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
WMMS certainly one of the most famous rock stations ever I think in Cleveland because of Alan Freed who coined Rock and Roll.
@josephblue4135
@josephblue4135 5 месяцев назад
Cyndi Lauper discography She's So Unusual (1983) True Colors (1986) A Night to Remember (1989) Hat Full of Stars (1993) Sisters of Avalon (1996) At Last (2003) Shine (2004) The Body Acoustic (2005) Bring Ya to the Brink (2008) Memphis Blues (2010) Detour (2016) All great albums & she sometimes "rocks" ! Lauper has sold approximately 50 million albums, singles and DVDs.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow 5 месяцев назад
I have the first two and saw her live on the True Colors tour. Had Eddie Money opening. I like her. But for me, the Hall of Fame should be the pinnacle, and she's not there, for me, IMHO. But based on who they put in, it's possible.
@leonardleon8926
@leonardleon8926 Год назад
Agree. Humble Pie and Steve Marriott one of the greatest guitarists and vocalists of all time. Great body of work. Highly influential.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Thanks. I certainly thought of Humble Pie - I am a fan (I'm a huge Frampton fan - huge). The fact is, at least to me, Pie's discography is very hit or miss. Listening to all their albums can be very.....trying.....I love Rock On and Smokin' and of course the live album(s) are amongst the best ever. But so many of the other albums can be......a tough listen. But of course 3 amazing albums is more than some of the current inductees so, yea, it fits the criteria. Thanks so much.
@DickBalls-pp2qn
@DickBalls-pp2qn Год назад
Here are the rankings of the 14 Nominees according to Chart Success & Sales of Singles & Albums.(some notes" 1. older acts have naturally less sales and Gold and platinum albums were more difficult to achieve based on population growth, 2. stratification of radio stations starting in the mid-1980's to the late 1990's rewards newer pop & rap acts and punishes newer rock and country acts regarding the Billboard Singles Charts, & 3. Rap acts tend to have far more samples than other acts, sometimes sampling multiple artists on one song).. 1. Willie Nelson (3 Top 10 Billboard Singles, 10 Top 40 Billboard Hits, 16 Top 100 Billboard Chartings, 45 Top 10 Billboard Genre Charts, 1 Top 10 UK Chartings. 3 Top 5 Other Foreign Country Chart, 7 Gold Albums, 18 Platinum Albums, $31.5 Million Album Sales, 796 covers (either by others or himself), 14 samples (either sampling others or sampled by others) 2. George Michael (15 Top 10 Billboard Singles, 17 Top 40 Billboard Hits, 19 Top 100 Billboard Chartings, 23 Top 10 UK Chartings, 16 Top 5 Other Foreign Charts, 5 Gold Albums, 3 Platinum Albums, 1 Diamond Album, 13 Gold Singles, 2 Platinum Singles, $15 Million Album Sales, 718 covers (either by others or himself), 278 samples (either sampling others or sampled by others), 77 remixes (either by himself or others using his music) 3. Missy Elliott (11 Top 10 Billboard Singles, 21 Top 40 Billboard Hits, 43 Top 100 Billboard Chartings, 12 Top 10 UK Chartings, 9 Top 5 Other Foreign Charts, 6 Platinum Albums, 8 Gold Singles, 9 Platinum Singles, 48 covers (either by herself or by others), 650 samples (either sampling others or being sampled by others), 159 remixes (either by herself or others using her music) 4. Sheryl Crow (4 Top 10 Billboard Singles, 11 Top 40 Billboard Hits, 20 Top 100 Billboard Chartings, 14 Top 10 Billboard Genre Charts, 4 Top 10 UK Chartings, 11 Top 5 Other Foreign Charts, 6 Platinum Albums, 6 Gold Singles, 1 Platinum Single, $16 Million, 139 covers (either by herself or by others), 11 samples (either sampling others or being sampled by others), 3 remixes (either by herself or others using her music) 5. The Spinners (7 Top 10 Billboard Singles, 18 Top 40 Billboard Hits, 30 Top 100 Billboard Chartings, 19 Top 10 Billboard Genre Charts, 3 Top 10 UK Chartings, 5 Top 5 Other Foreign Charts, 5 Gold Albums, 7 Gold Singles, 117 covers (either by themselves or by others), 234 samples (either sampling others or being sampled by others), 1 remix 6. Cyndi Lauper (9 Top 10 Billboard Singles, 11 Top 40 Billboard Hits, 15 Top 100 Billboard Chartings, 11 Top 10 Billboard Genre Charts, 5 Top 10 UK Chartings, 8 Top 5 Other Foreign Charts, 1 Gold Album, 2 Platinum Albums, 2 Gold Singles, 3 Platinum Singles, 455 covers (either by herself or by others), 103 samples (either sampling others or being sampled by others), 51 remixes (either by herself or others using her music) 7. Iron Maiden (Because they did not release any singles in the U.S. they never charted on the Billboard Top 10, Top 40, & Top 100 Singles Charts, 1 Top 10 Billboard Genre Charting (for Run To The Hills), 16 Top 10 UK Chartings, 19 Top 5 Other Foreign Charts, 3 Gold Albums, 5 Platinum Albums, 368 covers (either by themselves or by others), 53 samples (either sampling others or being sampled by others), 8. New Order (2 Top 40 Hits, 6 Top 100 Billboard Chartings, 14 Top 10 Billboard Genre Charts, 8 Top 10 UK Charts, 5 Top 5 Other Foreign Charts, 2 Gold Albums, 1 Platinum Album, 227 covers (either by themselves or by others), 157 samples (either sampling others or being sampled by others), 198 remixes (either by themselves or others using their music) 9. Kate Bush (1 Top 10 Billboard Single, 2 Top 40 Billboard Hits (same song separated by nearly 40 years), 5 Top 100 Billboard Chartings, 9 Top 10 UK Chartings, 10 Top 5 Other Foreign Charts, 1 Gold Album, 207 covers (either by herself or by others), 127 samples (either sampling others or being sampled by others), 1 remix 10. Soundgarden (1 Top 100 Billboard Charting, 10 Top 10 Billboard Genre Charts, 0 Top 10 UK Chartings, 1 Top 5 Other Foreign Chart, $10 Million Album Sales, 184 covers (either by themselves or by others), 27 samples (either sampling others or being sampled by others), 7 remixes (either by themselves or others using their music) 11. The White Stripes (1 Top 40 Billboard Hit, 3 Top 100 Billboard Chartings, 6 Top 10 Billboard Genre Charts, 5 Top 10 UK Chartings, 1 Top 5 Other Foreign Chart, 2 Gold Albums, 2 Platinum Albums, 1 Platinum Single, 224 covers (either by themselves or by others), 49 samples (either sampling others or being sampled by others), 7 remixes (either by themselves or others using their music) 12. A Tribe Called Quest (6 Top 100 Billboard Chartings, 8 Top 10 Billboard Genre Charts, 2 Top 10 UK Chartings, 3 Gold Albums, 3 Platinum Albums, 28 covers (either by themselves or by others), 1,543 samples (either sampling others or being sampled by others), 70 remixes (either by themselves or others using their music) 13. Rage Against The Machine (1 Top 100 Billboard Charting, 3 Top 10 Billboard Genre Charts, 2 Top 10 UK Chartings, 1 Top 5 Other Foreign Charts, 2 Gold Albums, 5 Platinum Albums, 136 covers (either by themselves or by others), 68 samples (either sampling others or being sampled by others), 5 remixes (either by themselves or others using their music) 14. Joy Division (0 Top 10 UK Chartings, 5 Top 5 Other Foreign Charts, 191 covers (either by themselves or by others), 32 samples (either sampling others or being sampled by others), 2 remixes 15. Warren Zevon (1 Top 40 Billboard Hit, 2 Billboard Top 100 Chartings, 1 Top 10 Billboard Genre Chart, 2 Gold Albums, 1 Platinum Album, 38 covers (either by others or himself), 8 samples (either sampling others or sampled by others)
@DickBalls-pp2qn
@DickBalls-pp2qn Год назад
Here are the top 100 rock/pop acts snubs based off the above criteria of Chart success, Sales figures, covers, samples and remixes (removing Big Band Crooners, Country Artists & Rap Artists from the Rock Hall's broad definition of what is Rock & Roll) (Look up the numbers yourself for those not nominated, for those nominated see above)... 1. Mariah Carey 2. Usher 3. Celine Dion 4. Olivia Newton-John (her 3 hit singles from Grease, along with Frankie Valli and Sha-Na-Na kicked off the Retro-rock movement of the 1980's which benefitted George Harrison, Paul McCartney, Billy Joel, Elton John, The Beach Boys (Kokomo), Huey Lewis & The News, The Bangles, The Blues Brothers, etc...) 5. Barry Manilow 6. Dionne Warwick 7. The Carpenters (Listen to the guitar solo on "Goodbye To Love") 8. Connie Francis (Originally Crowned the Queen of Rock n Roll during the late 1950's and early to mid 1960's) 9. Phil Collins (Solo Career outside of Genesis) 10 Diana Ross (Solo Career outside of The Supremes) 11 Cher (Solo Career outside of Sonny & Cher) 12 Shakira 13. George Michael (Solo Career outside of Wham!) 14. Mary J Blige 15. Paul Anka 16. Luther Vandross 17. Ricky Martin 18. Bryan Adams & his backing band The Dudes of Leisure 19. Foreigner 20. Tom Jones 21. Backstreet Boys 22. Boyz II Men 23..Ozzy Osbourne (Solo career outside of Black Sabbath) 24. Michael Bolton 25. Kool & the Gang 26. Petula Clark 27. Kylie Minogue 28. Destiny's Child 29. Sting (Solo career outside of The Police) 30. The Monkees 31. 5th Dimension 32. INXS 33. Black Eyed Peas 34. Shery Crow 35. Natalie Cole 36. Barry White 37. The Commodores 38. Neil Sadaka 39. Toni Braxton 40. REO Speedwagon 41. Pet Shop Boys 42. Dave Mathews Band 43. Wham! 44. Styx 45. TLC 46 The Spinners 47. Roberta Flack 48. Cyndi Lauper 49 Huey Lewis & the News 50 Three Dog Night 51 Gloria Estefan (Solo career outside of The Miami Sound Machine) 52. Michael W. Smith 53. Selena 54. The Pointer Sisters 55. Bobby Brown 56 Herman's Hermits 57 Engelbert Humperdink 58 Amy Grant 59 B.J. Thomas 60 Chubby Checker 61 Johnny Rivers 62 New Kids on the Block 63 Richard Marx 64 Babyface 65 Jimmy Buffett 66 Sia 67 Smashing Pumpkins 68 Sarah McLachlan 69 War 70 Marc Anthony 71 Kenny Loggins 72 Keith Sweat 73 Tony Orland and Dawn 74 Don Henley (solo career outside of The Eagles) 75 Dan Fogelberg 76 Goo Goo Dolls 77 Matchbox 20 78 Seena Easton 79 Sade 80 George Benson 81 Bread 82 Enya 83 Boston 84 America 85 Robert Palmer (Solo Career outside of The Power Station) 86 Oasis 87 Nancy Sinatra 88 Air Supply 89 N'Sync 90 Paula Abdul 91 Bad Company 92 Julio Iglesias 93 Korn 94 Spice Girls 95 Roxette 96 Aaliyah 97 Donny Osmond 98 En Vogue 99 Faith Evans 100 Lenny Kravitz --- Honorable Mentions- -- 101 Creed 102 Meatloaf 103 Culture Club 104 Billy Idol 105 Peter Paul & Mary 106 No Doubt 107 Grand Funk Railroad 108 Billy Ocean 109 Jewel 110 KC and the Sunshine Band 111 Kansas 112 Iron Maiden 113 Alanis Morissette 114 Poison 115 Captain & Tennille 116 New Edition 117 Joe Crocker 118 Sonny and Cher 119 Taylor Dayne 120 Steve Winwood 121 Rick Springfield 122 The Guess Who 123 Mary Wells (Solo career outside of the Supremes) 124 Hootie & the Blowfish 125 Bananarama 126 Anita Baker 127 Tears for Fears 128 Toto 129 Eddie Money 130 Paul Revere & the Raiders 131 Daft Punk 132 UB40 133 Alice in Chains 134 Ben E. King 135 Melissa Etheridge 136 John Fogerty (Solo career outside of Creedance Clearwater Revival) 137 The Newboys 138 Motley Crue 139 Erasure 140 Ace of Base 141 Chaka Khan (Solo career outside of Rufus) 142 Rick Astley 143 Leo Sayer 144 The Marvelettes 145 Loverboy 146 Gordon Lightfoot 147 Tommy James & the Shondells 148 Gloria Estefan & the Miami Soundmachine 149 Alan Parsons Project 150 Weezer 151 Junior Walker & the All-Stars 152 Weird Al Yankovic 153 Petra 154 The Osmonds 155 Jethro Tull 156 Andy Gibb 157 Patti Labelle (Solo career outside of Labelle) 158 Jan & Dean 159 Peabo Bryson 160 Rufus wth Chaka Khan 161 New Order 162 The Lettermen 163 Little River band 164 The Chi-Lites 165 Tool 166 The Scoprions 167 Kim Carnes (Solo Career outside of The New Christy Monstrels) 168 Chic 169 Jamie Foxx 170 Stone Temple Pilots 171 .38 Special 172 The Turtles 173 The Ohio Players 174 Boz Scaggs 175 Bay City Rollers 176 Peter Cetera (Solo career outside of Chicago) 176 Peter Frampton 177 Steppnewolf 178 Whitesnake 179 Jim Croce 180 Teddy Pendergrass 181 Point of Grace 182 Jefferson Starship 183 Supertramp 184 Debbie Gibson 185 Tracy Chapman 186 Juice Newton 187 Lesley Gore 188 The J. Geils Band 189 Judy Collins 190 The Bangles 191 Limp Bizkit 192 Laura Branagan 193 Jay and the Americans 194 Blood, Sweat and Tears 195 Brian McKnight 196 Michael McDonald (Solo career outside of The Dobbie Brothers) 197 Bonnie Tyler 198 Tammi Terrell 199 Christopher Cross 200 Harry Nilsson There are 83 Big Band Crooner (Headlined by Frank Sinatra who would top this list if added), Country Acts (Headlined by George Strait who would rank 5th if added behind Frank Sinatra, Perry Como, Mariah Carey & Barbara Streisand), and Rap Acts (Headlines by Snoop Dogg who would be ranked 12th if added, behind the first 5, Tim McGraw, Garth Brooks, Usher, Celine Dion, Kenny Rogers & Kenny Chesney) not counted on this list, but would be ranked ahead of Blood, Sweat and Tears.
@DickBalls-pp2qn
@DickBalls-pp2qn Год назад
Had Iron Maiden released singles in the United States like they did in the United Kingdom and other nations, they would ranked higher on this list as other hard rock and heavy metal acts performed well on the Billboard Charts with Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Bon Jovi, Van Halen, Def Leppard, Metallica Aerosmith, Guns N Roses, Ozzy Osbourne (solo career), Poison, Motley Crue, The Scorpions, Night Ranger, Warrant, Survivor, Quiet Riot, Cinderella, Skid Row, etc.. doing well on the charts with singles.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Wow - thanks for this amazing research / work. It's an eye opener for me. Though as you said - stratification of radio - has killed rock music on the charts since the mid 80's. I have books on Billboard charts and it was fascinating in the 70's to see all types of music in the top singles charts. That's disappeared for decades now. Whether it's Bruce Springsteen or The Rolling Stones - few if any rock acts can have a hit single - so as you rightly said the chart info is biased. But even so, it's fascinating. I know virtually nothing about Missy Elliott, but impressive chart success. But of course chart success is only one barometer for the R&R Hall of Fame and it's very hard to rock acts to have chart success anymore. Thanks so much for sharing this great information
@DickBalls-pp2qn
@DickBalls-pp2qn Год назад
@@TheAlanRosenbergShow Actually country music was the first genre to separate in the mid-1980's, which penalized the country acts which were to a large degree rockabilly acts like Garth Brooks in the 1990's. Meanwhile that really didn't start happening to Rock Acts until the early to mid-1990's during the height of the Grunge Movement early in the career of acts like the Foo Fighters, while some of the older Rock Acts like Bon Jovi, U2, and Aerosmith were able to stay on the Pop charts and continue to get Top 40 single into the early 2000's, with the pop rock acts that still are able to make it onto the Pop Charts are in the vein of Coldplay, Imagine Dragons, Maroon 5, & One Republic.
@raveun2thejoy
@raveun2thejoy Год назад
Music should just exist as an ever-expanding universe of creative sounds, and nothing more. It is not to be gatekept-it is to be observed.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
I get that, but if the industry is going to give out awards for what's best and create a hall of fame for who they decide are the greatest of all time, it's certainly a worthy topic to discuss and give our opinions on.
@raveun2thejoy
@raveun2thejoy Год назад
@@TheAlanRosenbergShow Discussing and giving opinions is fine, but there comes a point where we just can't let this Hall of Fame bother us anymore. The industry is no better than you or me (and their snubs, and even questionable inductions definitely show this), and the industry just uses their immense resources to have a greater societal say and influence over the discourse with their silly little "hall of fame". The way that institution is run is laughable, and this is someone whose favorite artist (Prince) got in first-ballot, along with Eminem (a rapper), another one of my favorites. What they've done with barring so many notable acts is almost *objectively* wrong, even as art itself is discussed subjectively.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
I have to say, I love the way you write. Thanks so much for your comments. In a way, it's like a fun sport. Each year the Hall of Fame does their nominations and elections and it becomes big news and therefore creates a lot of commentary. So of course at that time, I like to express my opinion as well. Does it really bother me. More like an annoyance. I've never been there and at this point have little to no desire to go there. I don't think about it 51 weeks of the year.... Anyway I appreciate your comments. And by the way I felt that both Prince and Eminem certainly deserved their inductions on their first try...absolutely. I'm a fan of both. Very best, Alan. @@raveun2thejoy
@user-ft2vf9lk7v
@user-ft2vf9lk7v Год назад
Happy to see Ms. Crow nominated for 2023. Sheryl Crow needs to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame first time up. ☝️
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Yea - I'm a big fan and I would definitely vote for her. She's the real deal.
@peteallen935
@peteallen935 Год назад
don't kidd yourself Wenner, don't call it the R&RHOF....change the name, you've stuffed it...call it the Music Hall of Fame cos you've effed up calling it Rock and Roll
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Yes. Exactly
@danielrdrown1
@danielrdrown1 6 месяцев назад
I had to laugh. Cher was on the Gram Norton show just months ago bitterly complaining about never being nominated for The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. She stated and I quote "they can go *uck themselves!" "I would never go in now not even if they paid me a million dollars"..... Dolly Parton's 2023 turd of a rock album was a laugh too. Despite the stellar lineup and millions spent on this expensive project it bombed. After the big first week of sales it fell off a cliff. Only 5 weeks on the Billboard Top 200 Album Chart and the worst reviews of her career. Is Melanie the only Woodstock performer NOT inducted and never nominated for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame?
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow 6 месяцев назад
I didn't know that about Cher. Well Dolly initially didn't want to go in the Rock Hall either. The Dolly rock album - look at the cover - thankfully at least Mick Jagger had the balls to turn her down. She's a great, legendary talent and songwriter, but at this age to put out a "rock" album to legitimize her rock induction....well that says it all really. As for Cher, lets see what she does. I imagine she's a shoe in...I would think.
@danjack-son4871
@danjack-son4871 Год назад
How about The Music Hall of Fame with distinctive categories of music.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Yes - surely heading that way, though I would add Popular Music Hall Of Fame.
@user-rb1yf4he9q
@user-rb1yf4he9q Год назад
Screw diversity. It’s called Rock and Roll for a reason. If they want to put rappers in, then create a rapper’s HOF .
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Yep. Change the name of the museum to the popular music hall of fame because that’s what it’s become.
@johnny1968
@johnny1968 9 месяцев назад
Sorry, I disagree with you Sheryl Crow should NOT have gotten in the Music Hall of fame, IRON MAIDEN should have, and SOUNDGARDEN too
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow 9 месяцев назад
No problem. We all like what we like. No doubt Iron Maiden should be in even though I’m not a fan. But I discovered Crow when she started out and I’ve been a fan her whole career. She is the real deal but I understand some don’t like her music. Thanks.
@ynot9964
@ynot9964 Год назад
I disagree fully with you on The Spinners, great group, lots of hits. They should have been in the hall of fame.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
You're not alone. To me they are a "singles" group with a lot of good songs and hits. There's a lot of those type of artists and to me not Hall Of Fame worthy....but certainly a lot of people agree with you.
@warrentom6537
@warrentom6537 5 месяцев назад
@@TheAlanRosenbergShow The Spinners: 20 Studio Albums & 4 Live Albums. 6 of those were "Top 10" Albums with 3 "#1's". Of their 33 songs in the "Top 40", 18 of those were "Top 10" records with 7 of those going to "#1". 69-years performing with founding member(s) still on the stage. They have albums, singles, and performing longevity. Their music accomplishments seem well beyond that of just a "singles" group.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow 5 месяцев назад
@@warrentom6537I get it - the numbers are pretty impressive - they have a long career. Based on who they're putting in now, it could make sense. Personally I think they should now change the name of it to the Popular Music Hall Of Fame. Then they would fit better. But for me, and what I believe the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame should be, The Spinners would not be in it. The Spinners are not at the pinnacle of the greatest rock and roll bands in history...to me. They were a popular group for a period of time and I would see them on The Midnight Special and Soul Train. Impressive for what they are, but not amongst the true greatest rock groups of all time....just my opinion of course.
@jonescrusher1
@jonescrusher1 Год назад
There must be enough people watching these ceremonies to keep them being made. People need to turn away to effect change.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Yes I agree. But the majority of the world just wants entertainment, don’t dig deep into music, don’t care about lip syncing or really playing live, or if the artists write there own songs, etc. just want entertainment and a big show and production. For example I drive my poor wife crazy with this stuff as she loves the Super Bowl halftime show or Grammys or other music shows. They’re giving the people what they. Us who take real music real seriously. Well we’re kind of the outsiders. Unfortunately.
@DDavis-mg9nd
@DDavis-mg9nd Год назад
The J. Geils Band were nominated for induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in the years 2005, 2006, 2011, 2017, and 2018. So, perhaps that makes them not being inducted even more sad. Hopefully soon.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Wow - that's amazing information to me. I had no idea they were ever nominated. Makes me feel a little better. I feel bad for them in that the majority of the population thinks Freeze Frame and Centerfold and that's it. And it's a shame. Perhaps the curse of having such a dominating hit that overshadows an excellent long career. Thanks for that info..Appreciate it.
@DDavis-mg9nd
@DDavis-mg9nd Год назад
You're welcome! Hopefully they'll get in soon. They were opening for Bob Seger just a few years ago on tour. Amazing band!
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@DDavis-mg9nd I'm a big fan of Seger....but you really have to be good to follow Geils. Thanks again
@tarrtruck2869
@tarrtruck2869 Год назад
@@DDavis-mg9nd The J, Geils Band not being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a high crime, not a Rock and Roll misdemeanor.
@ohsoedgy6888
@ohsoedgy6888 Год назад
Iron Maiden is my biggest Rock n Roll Hall of Fame snub. But this artist is pretty close and while is seen as a Jazz icon he has a influence in all sorts of musical genres and that is the one and only legendary Mr John Coltrane the greatest saxophone player to walk the earth! Notable Rock acts that have been inspired by John Coltrane one way or another Pink Floyd David Crosby The Allman Brothers MC5 The Grateful Dead Blood Sweat & Tears King Crimson Jimi Hendrix Chicago The Doors Santana Steely Dan Patti Smith Joni Mitchell Notable R&B acts influenced by Coltrane include Kool & the Gang James Brown The JB’s Sly and the Family Stone If the Hall thinks Rock n Roll is about Youth Culture well John Coltrane was a icon for Civil Rights Activists in the 60s and was a hero to the Black Panthers So yeah he is a non Rock artist I think Rock fans can get behind in supporting him to get into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame At the very least he has influenced Rock music and made more of a impact on it more than someone like Missy Elliot or Whitney Houston lol.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
John Coltrane. Interesting. I’m a fan for sure of Coltrane for sure. Without a doubt a true giant and one of the greatest. But not rock n roll obviously. So I wouldn’t put him in. But based on who they’re are putting in, we’ll perhaps it’s feasible. But not to me. But I also wouldn’t put in a lot that they have inducted.
@ohsoedgy6888
@ohsoedgy6888 Год назад
@@TheAlanRosenbergShow Still a who had a impact on Rock n Roll should be considered as a Early Influence inductee His case is no different than Miles Davis,Etta James,Nat King Cole and Louis Jordan Those Jazz musicians are in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame I believe as Early Influences who made a impact on Rock n Roll and Rock music in general
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@ohsoedgy6888 I didn't know that Louis Jordan and Nat King Cole are in. Miles Davis - well he did some classic jazz fusion albums. At this point, with who they put in , should just be Popular Music Hall of Fame. By the way, you got me in the mood and I'm currenlty listening to John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman. Nice mellow crooning Jazz after a long hard day.
@ohsoedgy6888
@ohsoedgy6888 Год назад
@@TheAlanRosenbergShow In all fairness they will never change the name given they have been putting in Non Rock acts since day 1. I don’t think people actually had a problem with it until they starting putting in Hip Hop acts and once Madonna got put in If you go to the Hall website you will see that they think Rock n Roll is something that is inclusive of all genres and that it’s the sound of “Youth Culture” I thought it was weird at first but I have grown to accept that fact. It’s a private organization and they really want to get within the times I am glad to see though they finally decided to vote in the long overdue Link Wray so there’s that!
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@ohsoedgy6888 Yep - totally true. Have a great weekend.
@Xt1000
@Xt1000 6 месяцев назад
Never heard of Kate Bush. I'm more old school. Three Dog Night, Boston,Ted Nugent,April Wine,Shooting Star, Blackfoot,Molly Hatchet,Blue Oyster Cult, Billy Thorpe, Triumph,The Fixx,The Hooters, The Baby's, Robin Trower to name a few.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow 6 месяцев назад
Good stuff. Kate Bush around that time too. Her first album was 1978 with the great song Wuthering Heights. Hounds of Love with "Running Up That Hill" which hit number 1 in the US because of that TV show last year actually came out in 1985. Around that same time frame as many in your list.
@SteveSmith-md1fl
@SteveSmith-md1fl Год назад
Right on, right on, right on. It is suppose to be the "Rock and Roll" hall of fame. They are clueless.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Thanks so much. Are they clueless, or constantly giving in to simply putting in "popular" people so it generates big ratings and catering to diversity including country and rap and pop so further generate big ratings and show inclusiveness that really doesn't have anything to do with rock and roll music. Seems obvious to me. At this point change the name to the popular music hall of fame to generate ratings and money.
@minsterhill
@minsterhill Год назад
Perfectly said! Thank you for this show!
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Thank you so much - I really appreciate your nice comments and your support. Very best, Alan
@carltwidle9046
@carltwidle9046 Год назад
Hi Alan So you have more Kate Bush down in your basement .The late Warren Zevon i like, i love that song Werewolves of London from 1978. Excitable Boy is a cool album. I'm going to be honest, it doesn't matter to me who gets into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame really. I like the music, and that's all that matters to me, not what awards they have. I agree with you on Blue Oyster Cult. Are Blondie in ? , if not they should be. I agree with what you say, all those groups that haven't been acknowledged. I do like the Detroit Spinners, they had a string of soul hits in the 1970s. Could it be I'm falling in Love from 1973, Ghetto Child from 1973, Rubberband Man from 1976 , Games people Play from 1975 , Its a Shame from 1970, just to name a few favorites of mine that they did. You have brought up a good point Alan.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Thanks Carl. Blondie is in and we’ll deserved. Not saying the Spinners don’t have some great songs. Just that to put them in over the groups I showed to me is crazy. Thanks for your support as always
@carltwidle9046
@carltwidle9046 Год назад
@@TheAlanRosenbergShow Thanks for letting me know about Blondie, I didn't know that.
@mikedavis7925
@mikedavis7925 7 месяцев назад
I think the Rock Hall is a joke. It’s criminal that Jethro Tull, ELP, Paul Rogers, Peter Frampton, Grand Funk are not in. In addition I feel the Monkees and Love are at least worthy of one nomination. Quite frankly I feel the Rock Hall is a scam.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow 7 месяцев назад
I agree - it's nothing now more than a money making / TV ratings attention award show that must cater to the general population to get ratings and people to buy and go. It should be renamed the popular music hall of fame.
@beselbic
@beselbic Год назад
Nearly four decades in, and people are still complaining about the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame inducting non-rock artists, even though they've been doing it since the very beginning. R&B artists James Brown and Ray Charles were among its first inductees in 1986. And the first female inductee was soul artist Aretha Franklin in 1987. It's never been solely rock artists who have been inducted into the RRHOF, so I don't understand why people are still kicking up such a fuss about artists from other genres making the cut. It's more about the impact an artist or band had--as well as their influence--than the genre they're from.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
What you're saying is very true. But at least for me, there are still so many "amazing, classic, hugely successful and influential "rock" bands" that are not even being nominated. And it seems like the Hall of Fame has no permanently forgotten them and moved to later decades where the big successful artists many would consider outside of rock music. I just say, get those rockers in first. Then include the later day outside rock artists. Just my opinion. But apparently lots of others as well. It's not so much, exclusion, Just include more initially of whats more "appropriate" to the name of the Hall - then cast the wider net.
@MortenAastad
@MortenAastad Год назад
Like you said, they ingore Kate Bush because she is British. As a Norwegian I have to watch all those music VH1 things calling A-ha a one hit wonder. Really USA? They haven’t had top 10 albums in the second (UK) and 3rd (Germany) music markeds in the World these past 30 years? They had a James Bond song. They performed at Live 8, they have sold over 100 million albums and singles world wide. One Hit Wonders? Try Googling things… jeesh. They should be in the Rock and Roll hall of fame just as much as Duran Duran or Notorious B.I.G. who I am sure did not release 11 studio albums from 1985 to 2022!
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
We can be very blind here in the USA, based on what we're exposed to. Considering how much I follow music, I was totally unaware of the success of A-ha although I knew they had some other success in the UK. So certainly thanks for bringing it to my attention as well.
@tristramcoffin926
@tristramcoffin926 Год назад
Someone on the membership team is really motivated for getting Rage in. They had a really good debut, a great single on a bad album as the follow up...a good third album and then were no longer relevant. I don't believe they belong in the rock hall. Love them in the 90s but nah.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
I'm not really of fan of theirs as well. I can appreciate them. Morello is an incredible guitarist. He took the E Street Band to another level when he played with them and that's saying something. They have an air of importance with their politics and album cover graphics which helps. I think they'll get in, but certainly wouldn't be my choice either.
@tristramcoffin926
@tristramcoffin926 Год назад
@@TheAlanRosenbergShow agree. Nom Morello to the Rock Hall it is another story
@oppothumbs1
@oppothumbs1 Год назад
RICHIE Valens wrote the great song Donna, so take it back! that he wrote nothing. Stop with the huge discography nonsense. Bands not in that should be or the hall is a bigger crock than I thought: 1. Arthur Lee and Love (Forever Changes is one of the best albums of all time) 2 The Replacements - "From Let it Be" to "Don't Tell a Soul" there have never been 4 consecutive great albums by any other band. 3 The Smiths - Just because Morrissey is politically incorrect is no reason to keep them out.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Thank you for confusing me. So I can't comment on great, legendary artists with big classic discographies that have been overlooked by the Hall of Fame, but then you do saying that Love, Replacements and The Smiths should be in (all valid choices by the way). I'll stick with what I said. Richie Valens did write a great song with Donna, and popularized a classic traditional song La Bamba, but due to his tragic death, he didn't get to do much more, unfortunately. Yea, I don't think he should be in the hall of fame over the artists that I mentioned.
@dirk.1979
@dirk.1979 5 месяцев назад
Where’s Weird Al Yankovic and Ted Nugent? Must be too weird and a Republican. Hate politics in music.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow 5 месяцев назад
Lol. Neither would be in my hall of fame. Lol. But nothing to do with politics. I’m just not a big fan.
@MrBuc128
@MrBuc128 Год назад
Unfortunately the RRHOF has been a joke for many years now so I’m no longer passionate about who gets in but Missy Eliot might be the single most ridiculous inductee I’ve ever heard of . I don’t follow rap or hip hop but I’m sure most would agree that she would not even belong in a hip hop hall of fame if there were one
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
I hear you. Personally I know nothing much about her and I don’t know one of her songs.
@stevepyle5080
@stevepyle5080 Год назад
Agree 100%. Jethro Tull NOT in the Hall of Fame (or Shame as I like to call it), is the main reason I won't go nowhere near the place.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Yes #1 snub to me
@rcpsammy7186
@rcpsammy7186 Год назад
This is epic! Great rant!
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Thanks so much. I really appreciate it.
@timplays6602
@timplays6602 7 месяцев назад
R&RHOF is meaningless and not worth ever having a conversation about.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow 7 месяцев назад
I no agree it’s becoming meaningless but certainly to me worth having a conversation about. It’s the only rock n roll hall of fame. Those of us who’ve spent a lifetime of love for rock music have a right and in some ways an obligation to comment on their absurdity.
@jenniferevans4933
@jenniferevans4933 Год назад
I ain't heard none of them but queen Missy she the only one that matters tho . Her music is next level
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
We're reversed - I know nothing about Missy. Congratulations that she got in.
@ronalaurence3075
@ronalaurence3075 Год назад
Because you put so much “extra” effort into this video - pulling out all those hefty discographies and painstakingly citing example after example in order to validate your well-thought-out points - I am breaking a promise I made to myself. My pledge was to not engage in discussions about The RRHOF because I believe that it is an insult to every serious lover of R & R music. And I don’t think that The RRHOF has had any credibility for decades. My beliefs are based on the facts that you and many of your viewers have stated. The RRHOF is a business run by board members who play favorites to further their personal agendas to maximize profits and keep their egos fully inflated. Members of The RRHOF Foundation’s nominating committee vote for their friends and for those who will “pay them back” in any number of ways. Of the many offenses perpetrated by The RRHOF, perhaps the biggest is the focal point of your video, Alan: Inducting people who have very small discographies (I totally agree with what you said about The Go-Go’s and Cyndi Lauper) and/or those who have had massive commercial success, in spite of not having a great amount of talent, originality and influence. Moreover, like salt thrown into a wound, lots of these people get into the hall of fame way ahead of long-established artists whose big discographies exemplify true greatness. (Yes, formed in 1968, and The Moody Blues, formed in 1964, were not inducted into the hall of fame until 2017 and 2018, respectively. Contrastly, Foo Fighters, formed in 1994, were inducted in 2021, just two years after the band was eligible. On the other end of the spectrum, certain bands and artists get excluded from the “special club” for reasons that have nothing to do with the excellence and influence of their music. (Can we all shout “Jethro Tull” in unison?) In terms of credibility, how can any hall of fame be bonafide if it doesn’t operate with integrity? It can’t. And that’s why I think The RRHOF is total b.s. If the name “Hall of Fame” begins with the words “Rock and Roll,” a reasonable person should expect to find the hall filled with rock and rollers. It makes as much sense putting rappers, country music performers and pop music idols into The RRHOF as it does to put football players into The Baseball Hall of Fame and basketball players into The Ice Hockey Hall of Fame. Take a look at who’s been inducted into The Country Music Hall of Fame. You won’t find anyone other than country music artists and those associated with them. Check out The Hip Hop Hall of Fame, in New York City, which is dedicated to the music and culture of Hip Hop worldwide. You’ll see all the rappers who have so far been inducted into the RRHOF, but you WILL NOT see ANY rock ‘n’ roll artists, or anyone representing any other genre of music. There are MANY legitimate subgenres of rock ‘n’ roll. Rap, country music and “pure pop” (not to be confused with pop rock) are NOT subgenres. There are plenty of music halls of fame, including America’s Pop Music Hall of Fame, which is located in Canonsburg, PA. Each hall of fame exists to showcase a particular category of music by the artists who create that kind of music. Everyone has their rightful places. Let’s not pretend that those who ride race horses are synonymous with those who drive race cars.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
I'm so glad you did respond and stated your opinion (and facts) so eloquently. I think it may also be that "rock" music as far as popularity on the charts doesn't exist. It doesn't sell. The classic bands can still sell tickets live in concert but haven't sold records (or even release new records) in decades. There's no radio for "new" classic rock releases. Whether its The Stones, The Who, Springsteeen - on and on - you won't hear the new releases on radio. So the awards shows and the charts are dominated by Rap, Country, Pop. I'm thinking the R&R Hall of Fame is another casualty of this ever expanding domination and "death" of rock music. Just a thought.
@tarrtruck2869
@tarrtruck2869 Год назад
Rona, your facts and opinions on this subject matter are truly phenomenal. I couldn't have said that better even if I tried.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@tarrtruck2869 agreed
@ronalaurence3075
@ronalaurence3075 Год назад
As I thought about your thoughts (say that fast, three times!) in your reply to my comments, I believe you’ve made some excellent points. Yes, as far as the charts go, rock ‘n’ roll doesn’t sell. And yes, radio does not play new music by classic, or any other kind of, rock artists. (Every time I listen to Iggy Pop’s new album, “Every Loser,” which was released the first week of 2023, I can’t believe that none of the awesome songs on this great album (IMHO) are getting airplay.) And, yes again, the charts and the awards shows are overrun by Pop, rap and country music. These dominant genres seem to be what the overwhelming majority of music listeners in today’s world want to hear. As with any successful business (and I think we can all agree that The RRHOF is, first and foremost, a business), the product focus obviously has to be on what sells the most, what is most profitable and what consumers will “keep coming back to buy.” Hence, as you stated, who The RRHOF inducts depends on who will bring high ratings to the televised ceremony and who will give cachet to the subsequent party, resulting in the continued viability of The RRHOF. All of this makes sense when viewed through the lens of business. What does not make sense to me, personally, is why The RRHOF should keep a name that NO LONGER accurately represents the genre of music for which it was named. This particular aspect of the various controversies surrounding The RRHOF has been a major thorn in my side for a very long time. For years, I’ve thought that the name should be changed to fairly represent the new direction that The RRHOF has taken. (You and many of your viewers seem to be on the same page as me, when it comes to that.) I say: Replace the words “Rock ‘n’ Roll” with the word “Music.” That would make this hall of fame palatable to me, personally, because it would make sense (to me, anyway), at the very least. Of course, the politics (and unfairness regarding discography size, elapsed time between band formation and hall of fame induction, preference for record sales over artist originality and influence, etc.) will always remain. That’s the reality of celebrating a so-called art from a business foundation (IMHO).
@ronalaurence3075
@ronalaurence3075 Год назад
@@tarrtruck2869 Thank you so much, Tarr Truck! Having read your comments on Alan’s many and varied videos, I think you could have said it beautifully.
@michaelbelshaysr4525
@michaelbelshaysr4525 Год назад
I agree with Jethro Tull, Even Boston and a few other you mentioned. How about Poco? The have a lot of music as well. And to top it off have a lot of members that moved to the Eagles. Isn't that influence? Sure they were formed for the express purpose of feeding Linda Ronstadt and the Eagles. That happened while making quality music themselves. Isn't that the purpose of the award? After all Black Sabbath the band deemed Grandfather's of heavy metal that others incorporated their music into theirs that kept the genre going. I know for many years people say rock is dead. It isn't. Rap and others took out instruments added computer generated music in its place. A bad thing for music unless you want to say someone pounding on a table talking on the phone is music. Or talking on the phone while downloading sounds and beats to go with it. A single person. Sounds like those people who performed as one man bands way back with a instrument and drum attached to their back with a monkey with a cup collecting money. Music has gotten lazy and or people with little or no talent musically. Not interested in learning a guitar piano drums etc. Or couldn't afford them to learn it.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
I like Poco and have many of their albums. I wouldn't put them in the Hall Of Fame considering all these other much more qualified bands in my opinion. But Poco was certainly an influential band with some great members passing through it. Are the Flying Burrito Brothers in - no touching their first three albums in my opinion.
@michaelbelshaysr4525
@michaelbelshaysr4525 Год назад
@The Alan Rosenberg Show knowing The Eagles are in the rrhof I'm Not sure about Linda Ronstadt. So a few poco members are already in it.
@khloealvarado4592
@khloealvarado4592 Год назад
I been watching few videos of 2023 R&R Hall Of Fame. Few brings a valid point related to the criteria from R&R Hall Of Fame to become eligible for induction 25 yrs after release of first record. Influence & significance of the artist or band. Then Sheryl Crow for now, should not be considered. Nothing influential about her. Some very good songs from her, specially in the 90's. Kate Bush is original, and perhaps is her time to be inducted. But Cyndi Lauper is without doubt the most influential artist from the class of 2023 with timeless classics hits that still on the radio for decades & is no surprise her following with a decent lead of fan votes. Fashion icon & great singer. Soundgarden is a yes for me, from all the bands, i enjoy their music. Kate Bush can't touch Madonna in the UK. Madonna is the most successful female artist in UK Chart history 13 number #1 Hits & best female selling artist, including concerts. Not too familiar with Kate Bush, heard of her, never heard her music on the radio. No idea if Kate Bush does huge arenas, like Madonna or even sell more shows & doubt if she have a fan base like Madonna. Cyndi also been doing huge arenas since her first release until her third album with tours around countries around 1990-1991. Nothing against Kate Bush, like i said, she is original & unique. No problem if she gets inducted, but not before Cyndi Lauper. My opinion, enjoyable video clip!
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
I didn't realize that Cyndi Lauper still had such a large and faithful following. I pretty much stopped listening to her after True Colors. She certainly hasn't had any "big" hits in the US since then with her albums. She certainly expanded to other areas like TV, Broadway and TV commercials. I know that Kate Bush is an icon in the UK and considering she only toured once in her career and then returned for a historic run at the Hammersmith - she's very famous there. Virtually unknown in the US till now after STranger Things. Looks like Lauper may get in. I like her, but wouldn't be my choice - I think Sheryl Crow is a great talent. She writes great songs, does great albums, plays, produces - I think she's the real deal. We'll see what happens. Thanks so much.
@khloealvarado4592
@khloealvarado4592 Год назад
​@@TheAlanRosenbergShow Cyndi have a huge fan base, specially in the LGBTQ Community, lots of her fans been there since her debut album, and still there for her. She was different from everyone else, Boy George also unusual as her. Time after time is an ultimate classic, most covered song by other artists, latest one to covered this song is Sam Smith who is a huge pop star now. Girls Just want to have fun, perhaps even bigger song than Time After Time, music video is top 5 of most stream video from the 80's with over a billion views. True Colors is a gay anthem, huge hit. Few of her songs were at least top 10, including Goonies R' Good Enough, one of my faves from a cult film that i love. USA for Africa, part of the main line-up. Her 90's music perhaps even better, but her forth album from the 90's did better in the UK & The World is Stone a big hit in Europe, France & some other country #1 & #2 in the charts. In NY , don't remember her 90's music playing on the radio. Lite FM station of soft pop was playing her acoustic version of Time After time duet w/ Sarah McLachlan & few songs from her 2004 standard album At Last, besides her popular hits from the 80's. New York Pulse Dance station did played two of her edm songs from her 2008 dance cd, which i have & is great. Into The Nightlife became #1 in the Dance Charts, and another hit also #1. She been around, is like any other artist they have their moments & then radio stop playing their music. I have many favorite artists, i'll say she is one of them. I like her style & to me her discography of songs, many great songs. Maybe one day i take some time to go thru Kate Bush discography, is good to discover new stuff for the first time. I know she also have her following of faithful fans.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@khloealvarado4592 Thank you for that thorough discography on Cyndi. I often see her later day CD's for like a dollar or two in the used CD sections. I only have the debut, True Colors and her greatest hits album. Perhaps I'll pick up a later day album. As for Kate Bush, she's an acquired taste. Definitely not commercial and not for everyone. Cyndi Lauper is super pop and easy listening compared to Kate Bush....so beware...lol
@khloealvarado4592
@khloealvarado4592 Год назад
​ ​ @The Alan Rosenberg Show I like few music genres & listen to artists not so commercial like Tori Amos. I like a Kate Bush song, This woman's work. But not too familiar with her music. I know Running up the Hill & who doesn't after Stranger Things. Is an okay song. I grew up in the 90's & into music from 2000's, got into Alternative rock from Garbage, Smashing Pumpkins, Soundgarden & others. I discover Cyndi Lauper & other artists from the 80's, going thru my uncle & cousins records & cds collection. Most of his collection were 80's music. Looking at artwork covers few stood up, specially Cyndi Lauper. Fascinated with her look & i turn around True colors & saw her yellow-red hair, blue lipstick & newspaper skirt. I told my uncle tell me more about her & have to listen her music. Then he introduce me to her music videos & live shows, enjoyable experience & she is quite a character like no one i seen. Also Billy Idol, his look caught my attention & even a crush on him, saw his music videos & got into his music as well. He should be inducted if he's not. Influential for sure & he is a rock icon in my opinion. I enjoy bands from that era that perhaps deserves at least to be nominated, like The Cult. She Sells Sanctuary, Fire Woman, Wild Flower, Sun King...i like few songs from them. Listen to them, if you haven't heard their music. Good Stuff!
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@khloealvarado4592 Love your story about discovering "old" rock music - in your case the 80's - by looking at your uncle's old records. That's awesome. Such a great way to discover music - music listening used to be a "community" - doing it with friends - sharing vinyl etc. Certainly Cyndi's marketing worked - it was the MTV era and was very important to stand out visually. Unfortunately it became so important that it was more important than the music...but that's another story. I'm familiar with The Cult. Yes they have some great stuff. Like Billy Idol too.
@FuturePast2019
@FuturePast2019 Год назад
18:37 "Stormfront" (no no no no no no 🙂 ) Yes, Ian Anderson said that they don't playa American music enough... for Yann Wenner
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Did I say Stormfront? lol - Stormwatch, Stormwatch, Stormwatch - Mouth was running faster than my brain. By the way I love Stormfront...I mean Stormwatch. Thanks. True Tull is definitely not American music. And I mean that in a good way. Thanks so much.
@FuturePast2019
@FuturePast2019 Год назад
@@TheAlanRosenbergShow Another thing about Jethro Tull. "How many members"? With Deep Purple iit was 4 of 5 from Mark I, all from Mark II and III. No Steve Morse (1994-2022 and 8 studio albums)
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@FuturePast2019 very true but if you go up to 1979 which was their peak it’s manageable.
@DontKilltheWhale
@DontKilltheWhale Год назад
Nailed it. Styx & Kansas for sure. Supertramp as well
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Yep. All classic bands
@GraemeBell9864
@GraemeBell9864 10 месяцев назад
Now that Kate is there Tori Amos next year? Oh yeah Aerosmith as well.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow 10 месяцев назад
Aerosmith is in. They have to be. They’re definitely in.
@stevenmaginnis1965
@stevenmaginnis1965 Год назад
If only a TV show like 'Stranger Things' would use a song from a band like Family!
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
I've never watched the show, but of course I know it brought Kate Bush into the US consciousness now. Could they do it with Family....wow....we will see.
@lelandw2454
@lelandw2454 11 месяцев назад
What about foghat
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow 11 месяцев назад
I like Foghat. I think they’re good. To me not Hall of Fame worthy but I enjoy them.
@stevenmaginnis1965
@stevenmaginnis1965 Год назад
Joe Cocker has also been snubbed.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
He sure has. Though I've been listening to a lot of Cocker lately. Very mixed career. After 1971, his recording career is really spotty.
@Xbox360mIRC
@Xbox360mIRC Год назад
Missy Elliot really? I remember her being extremely popular back in 2005-2008 when I listened to a lot of rap and hip how and she had no rock n roll in her at all. She was a fast paced rapper mainly. Does she have other work that fits the rock n roll category or even close? Hard Rock, Rock, Arena Rock, AOR, anything?
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
I literally know nothing about Missy Elliot. I couldn't name one of her songs. But that's just me.
@Xbox360mIRC
@Xbox360mIRC Год назад
@@TheAlanRosenbergShow Yeah she is a rapper/hip hop artist and made a popular song with Madonna. She is nothing like rock n roll :( Genres Hip hop R&B progressive rap on wiki. Even if she doesn't win the fact she was even nominated along with other people who didn't fit rock n roll is annoying. I'm not sure how this works but is there a limit to how many people can be nominated? Because several not fitting rock n roll genre makes it less competitive and people who deserved nominations don't get nominations.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@Xbox360mIRC Seems like rock is dead. Even at the hall of fame.
@TheGravygun
@TheGravygun 10 месяцев назад
why don't they have a rap Hall of Fame it makes no sense
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow 10 месяцев назад
They probably do or will, but they won't be putting the rockers in there. By now should change the name to popular music hall of fame.
@user-pu2cj3no5f
@user-pu2cj3no5f 4 месяца назад
Security would be a nightmare.
@garyjohnson627
@garyjohnson627 Год назад
I’m amazed Paul weller, the Jam or Style council have never been nominated.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Yes. I mentioned that too. He’s literally an institution over there and deserves it. What a career. But in the US definitely more of a cult artist. Another example of US centric.
@randouploads
@randouploads 11 месяцев назад
Who? The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? What is that? Never heard of it
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow 11 месяцев назад
It is a place that probably was created and built with good intentions that completely lost the plot.
@mister_jay_r2370
@mister_jay_r2370 8 месяцев назад
ITS OBVIOUS HE HAS A RED HAT SOME WHERE WITH WHITE LETTERS SAYING MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, NOTHING LIKE THEM GOOD OL BOYS ..( DUKES OF HAZZARD THEME SONG IN MY BACKGROUND) WRITING THIS....
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow 8 месяцев назад
Not trying to be political but I actually don’t have a red hat with making America great again.
@mister_jay_r2370
@mister_jay_r2370 8 месяцев назад
COULD OF FOOLED ME, I BET YOU ONE OF THOSE DALLAS COWBOYS FANS, ALWAYS SAYING IT OUR YEAR.....
@joannitaxvi3386
@joannitaxvi3386 Год назад
30 years music fan here. Never heard of White Stripes in my life so they not as `influential` or that Tribe thing. Missy Elliot is typical woke proposal, non-rock. iron Maiden is on the list as usual - and as usual they will get nothing. Saxon is another great one...Motorhead, Y&T, Scorpions. You have mentioned BOC, Jethro Tull, ELP & Grand Funk Railroad - and I agree with you absolutely! Its shameful they never been nominated. What about Thin Lizzy, Ozzy solo, New York Dolls, MC5, Budgie, Crosby Still Nash Young, even Fairport Convention? You showed Bad Company - but what about Free itself? I mean George Michael? cmon... pop Shery Crow - yes, I would agree she should be there.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
I actually think iron maiden is gonna get in this year but I guess we’ll wait and see. Honestly surprised you never heard of the white stripes. I’m not the biggest fan, but certainly Jack White and the white stripes were hugely successful and unique In their minimalist sound. He’s still hugely influential with third Man records. Thanks so much for writing and watching. I really do appreciate it.
@schumi9xwdc
@schumi9xwdc Год назад
Back in the 70’s on the cover of Rock and Creem magazine, the bands that always seemed to grace their cover was Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, Kiss and Jethro Tull!
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Absolutely. But GRand Funk, Uriah Heep - so many made the covers and big stories. I actually own hundreds of those old magazines. What a great time it was.
@martysmith5260
@martysmith5260 Год назад
I could never figure out when Creem journalists were being sarcastic or genuine.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@martysmith5260 They did cross that line. There were record reviews that barely talked about the record itself. I felt the legendary Lester Bangs did that a lot. But some of the writers were like rock stars too.
@caricatures9155
@caricatures9155 Год назад
Agreed with most of what you said ,but you got George Michael all wrong the US stopped playing George after his Faith album when he had a fall out with his record company but George is a world wide superstar far bigger than anyone else on your list you really need to check out his discography soul,r&b,jazz even waltz you obviously know nothing about him and have fallen into the very trap you talk about not being played in the US
@caricatures9155
@caricatures9155 Год назад
Sorry forgot to mention he sang,wrote,arranged,produced and played most of the instruments on his albums areal genius who has duets with Queen,Aretha Franklin,Stevie Wonder,Elton John,Ray Charles,Tony Bennet,Pavarotti,Whitney Houston ,Mary j Blige,Paul McCartney etc and even turned down Michael Jackson
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@caricatures9155 I actually own and listened to his 2 CD set Ladies & Gentlemen The Best of George Michael and I also own his Symphonica Live set (a deluxe edition). I've listened to him many times. I think he was an incredible singer and yes he wrote many great songs. Careless Whisper is one of my favorite songs by anybody. He was very well respected amongst peers and was hugely successful worldwide. All true. I just wouldn't put him in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame yet. I would definitely put the artists I showed in my video in before him. And I am haunted by those old Wham videos with the short shorts....lol Thanks for watching and commenting.
@caricatures9155
@caricatures9155 Год назад
@@TheAlanRosenbergShow No your wrong George should have been in years ago I was a DJ for 20 years and grew up in 70s and my teenage years in the 80s George took the world by storm in late 80s and was the number one artist in the world beating Michael Jackson and Madonna you really need to listen to listen without prejudice and older albums to really get it ,this man sold out stadiums world wide he holds the British record for the only artist ever to write, sing,arrange , produce and play every instrument on his song A different corner when you think of all the fantastic British artists like the beatles.the who the rolling stones,Elton John ,David Bowie etc etc etc and none of them have done this.Funny how you think Kate Bush should be in and yet she did nothing compared to George and isn't even that big of a deal in UK compared to George.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@caricatures9155 I guess it’s an age thing. I was born in the 60s and grew up in the 70s and 80s and as much as I appreciate him I don’t have that passion for him. But based on all you said I guess you’re right. I thought Kate Bush was a national treasure over there? Surprised by your comment about her. Well let’s see what the hall of fame does. Will be interesting
@tarrtruck2869
@tarrtruck2869 Год назад
@@caricatures9155 Everything you said about George Michael is absolutely correct. He was a major talent in the 1980s and beyond, no question. Does he deserve to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, absolutely. The problem here is that there are so many bands in the 70s that have paid their dues and have a large fan base and are largely ignored and forgotten by Rock and Roll Hall of Fame hierarchy. Most of these groups didn't get the exposure during the MTV generation which probably would have helped them. All I'm saying is don't cut in front of the line, get in line behind those who came before you.
@BlondeReaganite
@BlondeReaganite Год назад
The Hall of Fame has nothing to do with Discographies!!! Or how many albums sold!!There are several boxes you need to click to get in the Hall.. Do some research on what they are.. So this whole who has more albums has nothing to do with it.. The Go Gos didn't get in because of one album.. That comment shows you have no idea how this works.. The nominating committee is different than the voting body.. Just because you are nominated means nothing.. The bar is higher who gets in.. And it has to do with influence not just if you had a good album
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Funny...to me Discographies are the most important criteria of a band/artists history. It's their official record of what they did musically. What can be more important? Now based on their discography, their musical output, that output will hopefully gather listeners, sell records, be influential, allow them to tour and play live and gain a following. The Go-Go's induction includes their influence, but that's because Beauty And The Beat was a huge success, and deservedly so. It's one of the greatest debuts ever...no argument from me. It's at the top of their story - First #1 album by an all-female band, written by the band. If it wasn't for Beauty And The Beat, they wouldn't have gotten nominated or put in. They weren't close to being the first all-female rock band - talk to The Runaways, Genya Ravan (Goldie and the Gingerbreads), Fanny and many more. The Go-Go's got in because of their success with Beauty And The Beat. My other point is there are a ton of classic rock bands, with huge, long, very successful careers with huge, strong, influential and unique discographies (hello Jethro Tull) and they should be in.
@Jims_Camera_at_dawn
@Jims_Camera_at_dawn Год назад
You are not alone.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
True, though I sense we will continue to become the minority in our feelings. Maybe eventually they'll change the name of the museum.
@michaellandreth1392
@michaellandreth1392 Год назад
Valens is in for being a Pioneer. Which is an important category as his career was cut shot due to his death. Like fellow crash victim Buddy Holly though Holly had more hits. We will never know how much more these two would've done musically. The greatest omission IMHO so far is Jan & Dean. Jan created the Ca sound it was him Who put the Bomp. Barry Mann song J&D Answered in a song with the same title LOL.He was the one who along with The Four Freshmen and Chuck Berry that the Beach Boy's were copying. Surfin' was just Baby Talk according to Mike Love. Yes Brian co wrote with Jan some of J&D's hits. But he also co wrote with others who's songs went nowhere. So maybe Jan had just as much to do with the hits as Brain... Jan also did this Writing , Arranging , Producing(Yes all the Instruments not just a few words).... All while being a Full time Student mostly studying Medicine. He also was the one according to Lou Adler who put the main Wrecking Crew players in to play. People Brian used on his records. Jan according to Hal Blaine was the first to use 2 Drummers on the recordings. Both playing the same part at the same time. Earl Palmer (both are in the Hall as Sidemen. People like Leon Russel and Glen Campbell were regulars. All this ended in April 66 when Jan a true IQ level Genius suffered serious Brain damage in an auto accident. Fall of 66 they were to start filming a TV Show Jan & Dean on the Run who's Pilot had been picked up. Although he returned to the studio a year later. Nothing really became commercially successful. A 78 TV Movie bought them back out on the "Oldies Circuit " until Jan's death in 96 (?) He had to listen to the songs just before the show to be able to remember the words. But could still write all the Notes to all the Instruments. Now with his Left hand as his Right side was Paralyzed.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Thanks for that incredible information on Jan of Jan & Dean. I know very little about them, so I found it fascinating. Didn't know he was a main component of putting the Wrecking Crew together. Of course they played on countless recordings. Perhaps the most successful backing band of all time. As for comparing Richie Valens to Buddy Holly. Well i love Buddy Holly and his discography in such a few years is incredible. I still listen to him fairly regularly. I personally don't think Richie Valens comes anywhere close to Buddy Holly.
@mondoenterprises6710
@mondoenterprises6710 Год назад
What about Graham Parker and The Rumor? Marshall Crenshaw? The RR Hall of Fame is a sham and a rip off.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
There’s so many that are not in.
@jeanscrivener5554
@jeanscrivener5554 Год назад
One swallow doesn't make a summer
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
That’s a cool saying. Poetic. I’ve never heard that before. Thanks
@twhatty2537
@twhatty2537 6 месяцев назад
The Guess Who
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow 6 месяцев назад
Yea - many love them and they had some big years. For me.....I'm a moderate fan at best. I was a bigger fan of BTO, but I wouldn't put them in yet. Thanks.
@thuamteahl6543
@thuamteahl6543 Год назад
..And i'm still waiting for the day Black Sabbath gets into the Hip Hop Hall of Fame for some Diversity Shit?
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
lol...ok - that's funny
@Ravenstorm163
@Ravenstorm163 Год назад
Motorhead should be in the hall of fame
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Lemmy is certainly a rock legend. And tons of people totally agree with you. Motörhead has never been a favorite of mine but that’s just me. You’re definitely not alone in that. In fact I think they’ll get in eventually. Priest. Maiden Motörhead. Makes sense.
@fizzlebomber674
@fizzlebomber674 10 месяцев назад
missy elliot is hilarious. not in a million lifetimes
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow 10 месяцев назад
Yep
@HTJB60
@HTJB60 6 месяцев назад
Last year's Rant has come up Alan. You certainly had your knicker's in a twist when you recorded this... LOL Appear''s to me, it require's a name change. I'd never classify Kate Bush for R & R hall of fame (& I too have most of her album's) I enjoy Cyndi Lauper and don't think Sheyrl Crow & George Michael are Rock Artist's. The Spinner's, is that the Folk Group ? Willie Nelson ! LOL The other's I don't know so can't comment on. Again, does it really matter and is it worth getting het up about? It appear's other's are doing the same as you and feel the same way. Do what you're good at Alan,introducing interesting music to other's. You're obviously doing better than this Hall of Fame at popularising Artist's who are worthy of listening to... Michael.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow 6 месяцев назад
Thanks so much Michael. Yea it gets my knickers in an uproar sometimes...lol. To me it does matter. It is the only rock and roll hall of fame. But yea, time to change it to "Popular Music Hall of Fame". Thanks so much Michael - I really really appreciate your comments and support.
@HTJB60
@HTJB60 6 месяцев назад
@@TheAlanRosenbergShow My pleasure. Don't alway's agree with you but enjoy listening to your view's. Having different opinion's is what "Make's the World go around". All the best. Michael.
@schumi9xwdc
@schumi9xwdc Год назад
1) Warren Zevon…nuff said, don’t blame me, go ask Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Billy Joel, The Eagles, Jackson Browne, Neil Young, Fleetwood Mac, Stevie Nicks, Linda Ronstadt, Dwight Yoakim, David Gilmour, Jerry Garcia….
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
I'm a big fan of his. I just think that many of the artists I showed in my video should get in before him.
@MortenAastad
@MortenAastad Год назад
Iron Maiden have been around since before the 1980 debut. They tour and tour, sell out the whole world, even the US have started to remember them again. Did they get in last year? No. Fan votes not withstanding. Jethro Tull, even after returning with a new album critics loved, nada. But the Grammy’s managed to give them a heavy metal award, angering every Metallica fan everywhere. This year the Grammys handed out the rock and hard rock, heavy metal awards BEFORE the broadcast due to the «massive amounts of awards»! Are you kidding me?!? The Grammys are just hip-hop, rap and soul and that’s it, they TELL everyone they don’t give a shit about Rock or Heavy Metal, we know this, but the other «people» are called the ROCK AND ROLL hall of fame and they snub rock music over rap and hip hop? They allready have their awards, they OWN the Grammys! And you need a tv show to remind people who Kate Bush is?!? Disgusting. I agree with you 100% even if I’m an Iron Maiden fan. Maybe its a Scandinavian anglophile thing 😉
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Thanks so much. There is no doubt Iron Maiden should be in the R&R Hall of Fame even if I don’t particularly like them. I can’t even watch the Grammys or the Hall Of fame. It’s so blatant about a big show and ratings and popularity. For the larger population Rock has largely died caused by theses same institutions including radio. It’s sad and I wish I had an answer
@MortenAastad
@MortenAastad Год назад
@@TheAlanRosenbergShow people are told Rock is dead and they follow what they are told. Just as those poor shmucks who were told to throw away their vinyl and cd collections (I never did, but you know, never got married either so you never know what I’d done if I did). I had people and dates seeing my record collection and litterally look at me like I was clubbing seal puppies. People were also told that we only need one brewery and one beer for the whole Planet. We finally pushed back on that, maybe we should have an intervention were people got «lured» to venues with rock being played so they would go «Hey, I was told this was dead!?!»
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@MortenAastad It really is an amazing thing. Rock still sells concert tickets but most of the audience simply wants the handful of hits they know from them listening to classic rock radio that feeds them those same songs. It's astonishing that new rock releases from the biggest artists (Stones, Who, Springsteen, etc) can't get airplay, so don't sell many records except to diehards like you and me, and the "fans" largely don't have an interest. There are some exceptions but few and far between. And to an extent the rock music industry has created this. Like a mass suicide. I''ve heard radio DJ's talk about the new Springsteen, or Stones, or U2 album and saying how great it is and they then play Born To Run, or Satisfaction. It's sickening. Now it's spread to Grammys and R&R Hall of Fame over the decade..
@MortenAastad
@MortenAastad Год назад
@@TheAlanRosenbergShow That is so true and where do they expect new artists to come from when the giants die? No ones broken through playing guitars since Arctic Monkeys, and they had to use My Space to get heard. Are all artists going to be insipid girls who are vetted by Disney on some streaming show and then put into something sexy once they come of age and then pushed onto some stage? I pitty the people growing up now. Us in the vinyl/cd community uploading a Sillverchair unboxing, like I did now, can’t help new artists if we never hear about them. Are we going to randomly attend gigs in order to help these poor sodds get heard? That would get exhausting damned quickly! 😆
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@MortenAastad so true. The stars of today lip sync. Don’t even have live musicians. And the crazy thing is no one cares. Even the award shows don’t care. It’s astonishing. Isn’t music supposed to be real. I understand the attraction of a show and dancing etc. but it can’t take precedent over actual singing and making music. But apparently I’m wrong and few people care.
@juanlebron2509
@juanlebron2509 Год назад
Different opinions about which artist should be inducted & mixed reactions as usual. I think few rock bands from the 70's & 80's should get inducted before artists or bands that came after them. It took a long time for great Singers like Pat Benater & Tina Turner to get inducted in my opinion. Official fan vote leaderboard have Cyndi Lauper with the most votes so far. I like Sheryl Crow songs, but because Cyndi Lauper was nominated, my vote goes for her, just a fan, who likes her music, style & voice. To be honest i don't care for the others, Sheryl Crow & Cyndi on top of my list. Kate Bush not my cup of tea, since she came out in the 80's & heard few of her songs. Not sure what genre is her music, perhaps Indie pop.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Thanks so much for watching and commenting. Kate Bush is her own genre. Totally unique and totally not for everyone. She can be a very tough listen. But she's certainly a legend and royalty in the UK. I am a big fan of hers as well. Check out Wuthering Heights. One of my favorite songs ever. But if you don't like that you definitely won't like Kate Bush. Funny that it took Stranger Things to get her some popularity in the US and fifty years. Thanks again.
@juanlebron2509
@juanlebron2509 Год назад
@@TheAlanRosenbergShow Stranger Things took Running up the Hill on top of the charts, i believe is a remix of the song. Never got into it, and the other song i remember from her is the one with Peter Gabriel. Can't think of any other song from Kate Bush. If Cyndi gets all the way to the end of the fan vote with the most votes, is a good chance of getting inducted this year. She been on top the first days & George Michael then took the #1 spot, but now Cyndi is right back on top with close to 3,000 votes over George Michael. Bigger lead this time, those were the numbers hours ago.
@juanlebron2509
@juanlebron2509 Год назад
@@TheAlanRosenbergShow You say Kate Bush is very popular in the UK, which reminds me of Siouxsie and the Banshees, which i like few songs from them. If you're familiar with their music. Will you say Kate Bush music similar to them?
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@juanlebron2509 Kate was pretty much unknown in the US. She’s definitely not for everyone. I really like her though. But she’s definitely an acquired taste. It seems like it will be a horse race between Lauper and George Michael. Interesting and kind of fun.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@juanlebron2509 The song with Gabriel is Don’t Give Up. An amazing song imho. Thanks
@AlexRodriguez-qg3rz
@AlexRodriguez-qg3rz Год назад
IMO Cyndi Lauper is like a fine wine that gets better with age. You only have her first 2 albums which were her biggest hits. I recommend that you listen to her later albums like A night to remember, Hat full of stars, Sisters of avalon, Shine, At last, The body acoustic, Bring ya to the brink, Memphis blues, and Detour. She also has a great Christmas album, and as you mentioned she was in the great band Blue angel and they released a wonderful album which is really her first album because she wrote and performed all of the songs on it. btw, Cyndi was the first artist in chart history to have 4 top 5 singles from a debut album with Girls just want to have fun peaking at #2, Time after time her first number 1, She bop, reaching #3, and All through the night making it to #5. Money changes everything was also a hit from that album as well as her amazing cover of Prince's When you were mine. The truth is that Cyndi Lauper was a one woman revolution that opened the door for every female artist after her from Madonna to Lizzo. She was really the first female rock superstar. No woman ever had that kind of success before, so she's definetly a pioneer for women and a trailblazer.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Thank you so much for your incredible response. Super knowledgable and very informative. I am a fan of hers, though certainly not even close to the level you're at. I actually saw Blue Angel in Albany. I thought Girls Just Wanna Have Fun is an amazing album and I really liked True Colors as well. I actually went to see her at Madison Square Garden for True Colors tour and had Eddie Money opening (with special guest Ronnie Spector). It was an excellent show. I also have her Best of album. Clearly from a commercially successful standpoint, she peaked at True Colors and had a steady decline. But commercial success alone doesn't qualify you for the Hall of Fame, but it certainly is a major factor. I have heard parts of Night, Stars and Avalon. What I've heard was good. I imagine she has influenced other female performers that came after her. Truly how much, I don't know, but she certainly didn't reach anywhere near the level of a Madonna...at least after that initial flush of success with Girls. And there is no shortage of great female singers/rockers from the 60's and 70's who either had huge success (Ronstadt, Simon, Grace Slick, Tina Turner) or were influential (Genya Ravan, Elkie Brooks) and many more. My point overall is, Lauper's overall discography and her legend is based on one album (ok maybe two with True Colors), and that doesn't compare to the artists I showed. At least that's my opinion, and again I'm a fan of Lauper. If they want to put her in the Hall - that's fine. But much later on down the line. Thanks again for your wonderful and insightful comments. I love the give and take.
@AlexRodriguez-qg3rz
@AlexRodriguez-qg3rz Год назад
@@TheAlanRosenbergShow Well, if she does get in this year she'll be 70 years old. I'd love to see her do a kick ass show to show people that she could rock out with the best of them as you already know since you've seen her live. In any case to me she is the one and only queen of rock n roll.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@AlexRodriguez-qg3rz I guess we'll see what happens. She is a terrific performer for sure. Love your passion for her. It's great. Thanks again.
@adaalva8737
@adaalva8737 Год назад
Agree, I love Cyndi Lauper songs, popular ones & the others under the radar. Cyndi been leading the fan vote at #1, she really have a huge fan base, specially on the lgbtq community. Versatile artist than can sing about anything from pop, rock, dance, country & her success with her blues album that became #1 for thirteen weeks at Blues Charts with seven songs at top 25, including a #1 hit. Not to forget her success on Kinky Boots musical, getting a Tony & Grammy for the songs she wrote for this musical. She is a talented & underrated artist. Influential with her music & her style like no other artist when she was on the 80's scene.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@adaalva8737 Again I'm a fan of hers, though not nearly at the level of you. I also see her in TV commercials constantly selling Eczema creme...lol. That and Kinky Boots doesn't get my vote for the R&R Hall of Fame....lol. Ok - sometimes we just have to laugh. Ok put her in....but after the other artists I mentioned....Thanks.
@SteveSmith-md1fl
@SteveSmith-md1fl Год назад
Others that should be in... how about Robin Trower, Rory Gallagher.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
yea - the list can go on and on - I"m a fan of both for sure.
@kyreepilgrim3766
@kyreepilgrim3766 Год назад
Rock purist need to stick to rock and leave the other genres alone. The Spinners were one of the biggest acts of the 70s, had several top 10s and a formidable live show. Very much should be in. One problem, is the chronology. People who should've been in years ago, get mixed up with artist 20yrs behind them.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
I actually like a lot of genres. I'm fairly diverse. And I think the Spinners has some really good songs. But so does a million other bands and artists. I was around in the 70's. The Spinners had many hits, they were not one of the biggest acts of the 70's. I don't remember multiple nights at MSG or the LA Forum or Shea Stadium. I remember them on Midnight Special.
@kyreepilgrim3766
@kyreepilgrim3766 Год назад
@@TheAlanRosenbergShow well I think within the soul genre, The Spinners are a Hall of Fame act. I will just leave it at that. Taylor Swift does multiple nights at MGS too, so is popularity the barometer??? Alot of the "Rock" acts wouldn't even be considered if it was. There are more deserving artist not in and there's less deserving artist in. It's subjective. But it all comes from Little Richard and Chuck Berry anyways 🤷‍♂️
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@kyreepilgrim3766 true
@dreuxdillahunty2793
@dreuxdillahunty2793 Год назад
This guy seems that he's from Mass. Boston/New Bedford (by his cap). How about Mountain, Yankee classic rock. Leslie West and Nantucket Sleighride. It's really good to hear that good old Yankee common sense and I'm a southern boy (love Miss. Queen). No wonder they're the ones that got the revolution going in the first place!
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Thanks for watching and commenting. I really appreciate it. Interesting guess but I’m actually from Long Island. New York MB. Is North Bellmore but I do love a lot of that Boston rock ‘n’ roll. Thanks so much again.
@dreuxdillahunty2793
@dreuxdillahunty2793 Год назад
@@TheAlanRosenbergShow Also like you, I've got a great appreciation for the British acts. If you talking about a great discography, how about Procol Harum? They're never mentioned. What are they too intelligent, too poetic, too artsy, too profound, too socialist? Why should that matter? I like meat and potatoes R&R too wether it's from Bad Co. (though I'm a lover of Free) or Grand Funk. Don't get me started about Tull!
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@dreuxdillahunty2793 thanks. Love your description. Meat and potatoes rock. Lol. I use that too. Perfect description to me. Regarding Procol Harum. I’ve seen the original band live. Have checked out many of their albums . One of my best friends was a big fan and turned me on to them but at the end of the day they just don’t totally grab me. I can’t figure out why. I own two of their albums. A great German import best of with 22 songs and the live in Edmonton album with orchestra. For me it’s enough. But of course whiter Shade Of pale is way at the top of my all time favorite songs. Amongst the top greatest songs of all time. Never tire of it. Thanks and sorry if I disappoint regarding Procol.
@garymacintosh6811
@garymacintosh6811 11 месяцев назад
GUESS WHO
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow 11 месяцев назад
Personally I prefer BTO but a lot of people agree with you about Guess Who.
@kevindohn6776
@kevindohn6776 10 месяцев назад
If it has anything to do with being a good musician, KANSAS for sure, great band ! The more examples you gave, the more i lost respect for whomever is selecting those nominees, Rush only got in because of their loyal fans, Jan Weiner would never have put them in !
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow 10 месяцев назад
For what it's worth, I MUCH prefer kansas over Rush.
@brianlewis6229
@brianlewis6229 Год назад
Kate bush is definitely getting in
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Funny how she went from virtually unknown (in the US) to now fairly well known because of one song in a TV show. But shows you the power of other media outside of "classic" rock radio that just plays the same songs over and over again. This is why everyone is trying to get their songs in movies, TV, online and video games (and TV commercials too). Radio doesn't help so have to think outside the box....and it works.
@costap.4812
@costap.4812 Год назад
George Michael assolutamente!!
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Lot of people certainly think so. He’s got a good shot at getting in
@schumi9xwdc
@schumi9xwdc Год назад
Billy Joel was pushing for Joe Cocker!
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
From what I've heard he was pushing for Warren Zevon. But I could be wrong - I heard it from other sources but could be wrong.
@stevenmaginnis1965
@stevenmaginnis1965 Год назад
And ain't it high time we went and made sure that Joe gets in?
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@stevenmaginnis1965 certainly a legend. Woodstock performance alone. Mad dogs and Englishmen. His career obviously ups and downs but no argument from me.
@schumi9xwdc
@schumi9xwdc Год назад
Warren Zevon had 14 Studio Albums, not 2, 1) Wanted Dead or Alive, 2) Warren Zevon, 3) The Envoy, 4) Excitable Boy, 5) Stand in the Fire, 6) Sentimental Hygiene 7) Life Will Kill Ya, 8) Transverse City( David Gilmour/Neil Young/Jerry Garcia, 9)Bad Luck at Dance School 10) Hindu Love Gods ( REM ), 11) Mutineer, 12) Mr. Bad Example, 13) Learning to Flinch 14) The Wind ( Made when he was dying of Cancer,Bruce Springsteen, Tom Petty, Bob Dylan, Jackson Browne, Dwight Yoakim, Ry Cooder, John Waite, Bonnie Rate, The Eagles and Billy Bob Thornton all played on it! Please don’t talk down on him you’ll lose that argument, been rocking for over 50+ years and recently discovered Warren’s music, it is cloaked to most but is remarkable to the enlightened!! P.S. Jethro Tull is one of my fave’s and Frank Zappa’s too!
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
Thanks for showing Zevons complete discography. I was simply showing what I think is his best albums.
@DaveJBL
@DaveJBL Год назад
Warren should've been in a long time ago.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow Год назад
@@DaveJBL He's pretty much well respected by everyone, had a couple of hits and wrote a lot of classics. I'm certainly a fan.
@goodpainlive
@goodpainlive 11 месяцев назад
It's political. Plain and simple.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow 11 месяцев назад
It most certainly is. More so now than ever
@k9burnouts544
@k9burnouts544 6 месяцев назад
Cheryl Crow ? wow, that is sad . The Spinners ? Great, But is that rock'nroll ? Lauper deserves it, L think.
@TheAlanRosenbergShow
@TheAlanRosenbergShow 6 месяцев назад
That was last year. To me The Spinners are not worthy of the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. I like Cyndi Lauper especially her classic debut album and the follow up True Colors (saw her in concert for that tour at Madison Square Garden with Eddie Money opening up with Ronnie Spector). But I wouldn't put her in the Hall either. Sheryl Crow I'm a big fan of.
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