12:25 - You can tell that Paul thought Richard was speaking about him and Paul was thinking about what to say. But when Richard dropped the Steven Tyler bomb...he didn't know what to say because he thought that he was being praised as a great singer !!! PRICELESS! LMFAO !!!
@@erniegutierrez410 When they came out in 1974, I was 19. Most of their fans were bubble gum chewing kids, who were still in their comic book and cartoon years. Their music is mediocre at best and the only record I bought was a 45 rpm single "I Was Made For Loving You" with "Snowblind" I believe on the flip side. Without their costumes and makeup, they never would have made it. They tried to ditch that stuff but quickly got back into their clown outfits.
I don’t think Slash HATES KISS! He’s been seen wearing KISS shirts several times and he’s friends with Ace Frehley and sites him as an influence. I think, like Axl, he just prefers early KISS and not so much their later years
yeah but this bullshit channel knew you and I would reply to this,, so they create lame titles that get folks to reply so they make $ while sitting in momma's basement. the world loves dirty laundry
Nikki said Gene dresses like a clown , wrote some good songs a long time ago , I’ve heard he’s called him a mediocre musician and a poon hound . The funny thing is add junkie to that list and he’s described himself .
Nikki saying Gene Simmons dresses like a clown, says he’s a mediocre musician and a junkie This sounds more like a projection than an actual criticism of a man who never so much as got drunk, wrote some of rocks greatest songs and bass lines, and as for the clown comment… let’s just say Kiss looked cooler in spandex and makeup than Motley Crue ever did
@@Pumper_of_Maws Nikki never called Gene a junkie . I said if you added junkie to everything he said he would be describing himself . Sorry if I worded that strangely.
I saw the tour with Aerosmith here in Indianapolis. Having KISS open was a mistake. They put on one HELL of a show . We were all exhausted and our throats were raw when Aerosmith came out and did their garage band act . Boring as could be . People chanted KISS , some left , most sat back in their seats . I don’t remember if they said good night, I do know the band left the stage and never did an encore .
I saw 4 band concert in Toronto back in 89. It was Faster pussycat, Slaughter Whitesnake and KISS. KISS filled in for a band i cant remember and whitesnake because it was last minute, no pyro,bombs,etc were included. And Whitesnake demanded top billing. That was a fatal mistake. After the 3rd encore.. yes 3. Paul Stanley walks out and tells everyone thats it cuz Coverdale is having a fit. KISS blew them off stage and by the end of Vais solo the place was half empty
That’s an emotional response due to your band getting upstaged by a better band. Aerosmith was great, kiss was great. Sorry Aerosmith was the better band.
@robfdavis Amen brother. I saw that same tour in Detroit and man I thought the same thing. It was my first time seeing Aerosmith. I was pumped to see them. Had heard so much about how much energy Steven Tyler had. He did match Paul Stanley as far as moving around. Joe Perry played better than Tommy Thayer. Ace Frehley was not at the Detroit show. But your right 👍. My God! Aerosmith had no pyro or anything!!! It was visually boring and they did a shorter set. Never had any interest to see them (Aerosmith) again.
I saw KISS and Aerosmith in Indianapolis. KISS opened and as soon as KISS was done people started walking out trying to give their seats away to anyone that would take them.
I guess some people just like fake music and a show.They don't like to actually hear a guy really sing and actually do his own acrobatics. Don't know what to say to that.I guess there's a lot of people that are into the whole show. Because it's been proven that they don't even sing or play.The instruments anymore as much as they used to probably in the 70s.There's a time when you gotta say hanging up it's over. Is Aerosmith actually plays their instruments and Stephen Tyler actually still has a good voice. He doesn't need to have recordings. So I have no idea why people would leave after kiss. If you're a big kiss fan I don't mean to bust your a** but I mean, what's his face It
Same situation in ATL. KISS blew up the place and then 1/3 of the people left and there was Aerosmith on a stage absolutely engulfed in smoke, debris and an uninterested audience! Lol
@@robertkiley8444 Ik Paul sang to a track on the end of the road tour, but they all played their guitars, bass and drums ( I believe the piano for Beth was a 50/50 thing, Singer sometime played or didn’t. Also Steven Tyler uses a track to hit those high notes, like on dream on…. Which is fully understandable
I like kiss better than all these bands but at the end of the day couldn't give a fuck about any rockstars opinions or comments. They aren't role models. Just people who are paid to play music.
It's hard to imagine anyone playing (of all genres) rock and roll looking down on kiss. In the words of the great paul stanley, "we're not painting the Mona Lisa."
That's why in 2023 Slash played a GNR show wearing a Kiss t-shirt. Kiss is one of America's biggest and most successful bands. And it is the music that had to also be good or the make up alone would not have taken them 50 years. Gene is an underrated solid bass pla lovs or hate Kiss influenced tons of bands.
Yet The Bee Gees, had twenty-nine Top 40 hits, fifteen Top 10's and nine number ones and KISS has had 0 number 1 hits and only 2 in top 10. KISS is and was one of the most overrated bands of all time besides The Beatles.
Guitar players tend to like Kiss. I've seen videos of guitarist ranking their favorite Kiss riffs. I play guitar and a lot of Kiss riffs are more complicated than the detractors think they are.
@@jguitarz1 Shows what you know other than statistics. The Beatles hold the record this day for the most records sold. Even in 2024, people STILL buy their records and recordings, and their original Capitol label LPs are highly sought after especially the "Butcher" cover. Overrated? You wouldn't know good music if it poked your ear out.
I'm a KISS fan, and I can understand people's disdain for them. They are more entertainers than anything, but to say that they are not musicians is kind of an unfair statement. In 1978, each band member released a solo album. Paul Stanley and Ace Frehley had the best ones. Paul Stanley's was bluesy with a lot of guitar rifts, not only from his own playing but guitarist Bob Kulick as well. Aside from his music style, Paul Stanley could sing like it was nobody's business. When he does his solo tours, he disassociates himself from KISS. And let's face it, not too many mainstream artists had the privilege of performing Phantom of the Opera in Toronto. Ace Frehley's guitar playing was a bit weird, but he was technical for that time period. He also had a successful solo career after leaving KISS. Peter Criss was a bit more mellow. His inspirations definitely lie with big band and classical music--something you would listen to while doing your math homework. It's calming and laid back. I wasn't too impressed with Gene Simmons' solo album. It seemed to be a bit more of a 'Beatles inspired' KISS album, rather than his own personal style of music. KISS held their own during the 80s--after taking the make-up off. They had a great drummer and lead guitarist. It definitely benefitted KISS because Paul Stanley knew how to pick good musicians.
Aerosmith played with Britney Spears and I found it blasphemy. Rush and Styx on the other hand opened for KISS and loved the experience. Rush had issues with Aerosmith and refused Rush a soundcheck the 50 shows they did. Styx upstaged Aerosmith in 1977 and Aerosmith fans threw M80s at Aerosmith after Styx mopped the floor with them. In fact Dennis DeYoung said opening up for KISS was the shot in the arm to help The Grand Illusion album explode and John Panozzo was influenced by Peter Criss to have a drum kit move to the center of the stage and Styx used rising platforms on subsequent tours.
@@rrdream2400 Are you mad as in bonkers? Aerosmith are sellouts. I lost all respect for Aerosmith and when I hear them now I turn off the radio. Steven Tyler as a judge on American Idol? Geddy Lee would not resort to that nonsense and neither would Roger Waters.
Geddy pretty much said that KISS taught them HOW to be performers . They loved touring with KISS . They hated touring with Aerosmith and Geddy said as much in his book.
@@davidbailey6397 Even Dennis DeYoung shared the stories of how KISS subconsciously helped Styx bring more theatrics into their stage show. John Panozzo used a moving drum riser on The Main Event 1978/79 Tour for his drum solo which would see his kit move to the front of the stage (he saw Peter Criss with one when Styx opened up for KISS in 1977 and was floored) and JY And Tommy Shaw stood on a riser which rose as they rocked out the ending of Renegade after John’s drum solo and Chuck Panozzo joined his brother at his riser. Dennis DeYoung had his piano rise as he played his intro solo on Lady from underneath the stage to above his keyboards. He even said KISS should have been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame based on the ability to perform in platform boots alone and their combination of rock and roll and theatrics.
@@TJR-ClassicRockCorner0124Bro, I’m the furthest thing from an Aerosmith fan but KISS are the biggest sellouts in rock n roll and they’re even proud of it. So Gene appearing on celebrity apprentice is rock n’ roll? You think appearing in Scooby Doo cartoons isn’t selling out? Nothing says rock n roll like slapping your name on mediocre restaurant chain, I’m sure Roger Waters loves that idea.
KISS. They opened up a new world for many millions of young fans. Escape into a fantasy land full of sight and sound. Their music wasn't brilliant but it got the job done. Congratulations to KISS for being highly successful for 50 yrs!!
Dude. I just found you again after 10-15 years? I LOVED Creatures of the Net and the one after that (was it the Cassius Morris show back then? Ari Shaffir, Joey Diaz, Ace Frehley, etc.?). It has been forever, and I am super happy to find your content again.
One of the best songs Kiss ever made for me was Sword and Stone. It wasn't put on their Crazy Nights album because the producer Ron Nevison didn't like it. A band called BonFire also recorded a version of that song . Kiss also recorded a great cover version of The Ramones hit Do You remember Rock n Roll Radio
There are two types of people on this Earth those that don't get Kiss and those that are jealous. Why not add up the $ money $ Kiss has made in the last 45 years. Add up the fans they have all over the world. . And count how many songs and albums cassette and 8 tracks they have produced. Add up the live shows Kiss has performed. And finally Add up the years they managed to stay together without reports of drug or alcohol overdoses. II rather have a Kiss ticket than tickets to see all the bands that said negative things about a band that I bet they at one time bought an album or went to see them live. ... Hypocrites they are.
Not a big fan if Stanley's tendency to criticise just about everyone and go on like a bitter old queen, but in this case, I get it. Slash was bagging out Kiss as a cartoon band. Stanley's point was that after all this time, Slash going on stage with old jeans and a top hat is nothing more than a costume as well. I agree and have always thought the same thing. You see multimillionaires going on stage dressed like hobos in torn clothes and to me, it's no less of a costume than Kiss. It's an image.
@@MickC2167 The difference is, Kiss changes their costume every tour because they KNOW it's a costume. Slash has been sporting the same hat sunglasses and cigarette for over 40-years, and doesn't think it's a costume. We get it, it's a look, but people remember his look more than his music.
Not a KISS fan myself, but FWIW, Geddy Lee generally still speaks favorably about KISS. KISS was instrumental in helping Rush in the early days. And I’ve heard Geddy praise KISS’s work ethic to put on a show.
Notice that a man of musical depth like Geddy doesn't praise the actual music though, which is the diametric opposite of Rush music. Neil Peart must have cringed secretly at KISS lyrics! But he was a gentleman and didn't say anything.
saw KISS "open" for Aerosmith twice that tour...and both times, the same thing happened. As soon as KISS left the stage...half the audience started making their way for the exits. By the time Aerosmith ripped into their third song...the venue was less than half full. Or should i say "half empty
how so with Aerosmith? If they were jealous or threatened by them why would they want Ace and Peter to be in the band when they toured together? Most KISS fans wanted the original band and that would have been more of a threat, not less. And saying their music came 2nd and was more like a soundtrack to the show is pretty accurate and not necessarily and insult.
I don't hate Kiss because I never was forced to listen to them. They barely got any radio airplay. Their only real hit was Beth, and that is not only their only good song, but it's a great song. I only hate bands that I had to hear all the time when I didn't want to.
Why should I hate KISS?! They’re amazing, they produced so much good music back then, in my opinion they’re now just too old for performing on stage etc.
I saw Aerosmith in the 80s. Tyler did his best impression of a drunk Jim Morrison. Laying on stage mumbling. They had to restart 3 songs. And I swore I’d never waste money on them again.
Carlos Santana is right, Gene Simons is an entertainer that plays bass and hides on make up, Santana is a music rock band with other musical elements like, latin, latin jazz with African and Caribbean influences, with that said there is my personal opinion. Great review and a new subscriber as well.
How come Santana need guest artists to sing their songs, like Rob Thomas? Carlos Santana might be a great guitarist but can't sing for shit (or else he would front Santana rather than use guest vocalists). At least Gene Simmons can sing as well as play guitar.
Funny you mention GnR, Crue and Aerosmith, groups that other bands hate because they are punks who are horrible if you are on the same bill as them. Rush talks about Aerosmith not allowing them to have sound checks, Metallica had their problems with GNR refusing to go on after Hetfield was burned by pyrotechnics, and Crue was just out of their minds on drugs all the time. On the other hand, Rush has had nothing but praise for Kiss, saying the band and their crew bent over backwards so Rush could put on a good show as an opener.
I did a Meet and Greet with them and actually sang Room Service with them at the M&G. Paul Gave me his guitar pick and said I was awesome and Gene said "You weren't even nervous and I replied, " I waited 40 fucking years for this " We laughed and fist bumped each other and he sign a picture I had of him
The whole KISS/Aerosmith tour was initially supposed to be an all original KISS, and the two bands were to trade off nights as opener. It went back and forth for a while, and Aerosmith took the lead spot every night as Joe Perry stated that he refused "to open for any KISS that Ace Frehley isn't playing in". Tyler has ALWAYS hated KISS for the fact that KISS outsold and outshined Aerosmith and everyone else between '76-'79. Joe Perry wasn't dissing KISS when he talked about them going a more visual route, he was just contrasting the differences - he has said on a number of occassions that he likes KISS, and loves Ace.
Sure he did. Hundreds of people who have met him, (self included) say he's very friendly and still has a great sense of humor. If he treated you differently, it must have been you who were being the asshole.
@@Paul-eb9qj Who said anything about being tough? I see now why he thought you were an asshat. I apologize, I meant to say MR. Asshat. I don't even know you and I think you're a douche canoe too.
I worked security on the Aerosmith/KISS tour. Reading comments about KISS opening & after their set crowd leaving not waiting for Aerosmith is the biggest bullshit I have read. From the start of the tour in August through the end of that tour in October both bands had solid crowds. Nobody left etc etc
If I hadn't rode to the show with a friend Ida left to. They best part of their show was Tyler busting his ass trying to do his little flip. I've not given a f**k bout Aerosmith since
A bunch of old dudes acting like children...but it seems to be more Kiss as children. I wish we could take the Tardis back and lock away 80s, etc, Gene Simmons and never let him out lol. That's not fair, keep the 80s. I prefer 70s Kiss, but 80s Kiss isn't terrible.
Slash....I just want you to know that I feel ya,bro. I hate them too. Everything about them. I just am not getting it. Why dress like that and play like this!? How does one rock n roll all night,AND party everyday!? When are you supposed to sleep,huh!? Why the disco album!? Nevermind. I think I'm pretty clear on that one,actually. ....yeah,Kiss sucks.
Yeah, KISS is washed up. They made some good songs back in the day, but that’s about it. Then they want to continue talking shit about all these amazing musicians. Especially Gene. He loves making insensitive comments about tragic events or hard times. Obviously a man with an attitude like that either got around tough times by refusing to hold any compassion, understanding, and kindness, or he’s just had it pretty damn easy for most of his life. I prefer every other band on this list over KISS.
Although i enjoy theatrics during concerts, Carlos is kinda right. Even Blackie Lawless from W.A.S.P. implied the same thing about his own band when a prop malfunctioned and injured Blackie. Blackie said if they wrote better songs he wouldn't have to do the shit he did.
most of those people dont really hate KISS anymore or might even never did it seemed like a thing everyone just had to claim at one point to look cool lol even slash now can be seen wearing a KISS shirt very often.
A lot of people who don't even listen to Kiss say they hate Ace Frehley, not because of his playing but because of his look. My cousin once found me listening to Destroyer and he points at Ace and says "He's gay." So I asked him which one, and he point at Ace again and just says "That guy." He didn't even know his name or what he played, he just didn't like him because of his look. I guarantee he got more poontang in a year than my cousin got his entire life.
I mean you can hate band members of KISS but then you don’t have to say KISS is crap…. Let people enjoy their music…. They were amazing in the 70s to 90s now they’re just old
When I was 10 years old Kiss influenced me to play the drums. Now I am 58. I listened to Destroyer the other day. The breathing fire and spitting blood aged much better than the music.
Gene Simons is from the generation of silent denial and drinking away or praying away your problems . The truth is each generation has their own approach to mental health .
@@drewriley1889😂😂 seriously? You ‘re probably not aware of the fact that Slash has been struglin every single time GnR were in a studio, he has never been as good as they would like you to believe. Truth is that even the worst guitar player in Kiss was better than Slash, Sad but true
@@drewriley1889 Really? If only he knew how to tune a damned amplifier I could listen to them more than 15-minutes before I'm ready to pull my hair out.
I dislike all of these bands and find it funny that they are tearing each other apart. The only band here worth my time is Aerosmith. They are probably the best band to come to kick ass on stage in every arena in the country.
Man, Kiss is such a conflicting band. Their early songs and some in the 80s were awesome! The stage show and the look is great. But, their music IS secondary. Gene Simmons confirmed that in an interview with Henry Rollins. Also, I disagree with most of Gene Simmons philosophy and after I read Paul’s book, he’s kind of a whiner.
Nikki Sixx saying Gene- a guy who's actually PLAYED his Bass for 50 years on albums and live- is overrated is hysterical. Nikki is barely a sentient being, and who knows if he's a decent Bass player- he's been miming to someone else his whole career. And yes, I'm a lifelong Crue fan. Also, I've seen Aerosmith 6 times, twice on that KISS tour. Each night Tyler- one of my top 10 favorite singer of all time- mailed it in and looked disinterested, so he should talk. Joe Perry IS that band. Axl? Please......never had a great voice and he's a rotten human being, just ask Metallica and other bands that played with them.
Tyler is an asshole. Rush said tyler never given a sound check! Kiss treated rush 1st class when they opened for kiss. Santana has one guitar solo in the last 50 years. Same one every song 😂
@@mondoseguendo6113 What's the matter, they're not Death Metal enough for you? First of all, they were never a boy band, and it's obvious you don't even know what a boy band is. You are just a troll trying to get a reaction.
Most bands real problem with KISS Is jealousy. KISS was a band critics said would be gone in a few short years and they are still here and their critics that said that are washed up! Bands get pissy because of KISS having so much success. The bottom line is there’s not a single band out there that wouldn’t put the makeup on and look like KISS if they could become huge like that.
@@Webedunnwho tf is the who?!? The doors!? The only ones that have the same success as them are the beatles, Led Zeppelin and maybe the rolling stones. You mention any other band to anyone in the world they are A NOBODY
These are all greats and the idea that this "show" is making it out like they throw that much shade at each other is so questionable. Yes, I'm sure remarks may have been made but we do that w/ our own coworkers...the drama..geesh
If Guns n Rose's can draw the crowd KISS did for 50 years, then we'll talk. KISS inspired soooo many bands that ended up successful. GNR has maybe 5 hits anyone can recognize? Puh- leez. Listen to every album/CD in their catalog, you'll hear the talent and diversity.
I disagree. GNR was on top of the world for a hot few years in the early 90s. Go watch the Paradise City music video and check the crowd they drew there. I like both bands, but to say that GNR couldn’t draw a crowd like KISS is flat out wrong. If anything id say that GNR was the bigger band at one point
@@theshield2207I think he's trying to say that GNR, when they were at the top of their game for a few years, drew crazy numbers in arenas and festivals all over the world. KISS did the same thing - for a longer time and more consistently throughout the years. Just remember that most of the 80s were the lean years of KISS and their popularity began to severely wane. It wasn't until Revenge, MTV Unplugged, and then the 1996 reunion tour when KISS finally got their momentum back.
@@thee8904 GNR never sold out arenas as a solo act the way Kiss did. Every show I saw GnR play they ALWAYS played with other bands on the card and I guarantee people weren't there to see GnR exclusively and only going because they were another good band performing at the concert. The music video features live concert footage shot at Giants Stadium in New Jersey while Guns N' Roses were on tour with Aerosmith and at the 1988 Monsters of Rock festival at Donington Park. So, I can safely say that Aerosmith was the card draw not GNR.
I love the original Kiss, the incarnations for the last decades are just a cover band, and there are better cover bands of Kiss than the grandpa's now playing.
Kisses just a bunch of hype with some makeup Flash flash bombs they have no Talent musically but they had a gimmick that people really liked kudos to them
Then let's recall Psycho Circus from 1998. GnR released The Spaghetti Incident? in '93. Even sadder times for GnR. I guess people just got tired of them changing genres every album. Are they Rock? Punk Rock? Why are they still trying to find a sound after all these years? Just pick a sound and stick with it!
@@kiillabytezSpaghetti Incident sold twice as many copies as Psycho Circus… Also remind me which band made disco songs? KISS chased trends way harder than GnR did.
Santana vs Kiss. Both are overrated. Santana: all his riffs are based off of 'Love Potion #9' and repeat song after song. Kiss: simplistic music. There's a reason when I started to play guitar that Kiss was some of the first songs I learned. Outside of that they're just pretentious. Their biggest mis-step was putting the posers up there without original makeup. Lost all respect when it became about cashing in instead of the fans.
I totally agree with my music colleges , kiss did some good songs (I guess so) had some funny ideas with for example that SS symbol , but in general leaving the impression of a comic band , which for some is totally ok , for example : most of tv & cinema pictures are just fairytales = most humans just live in an unreal dream world ( like look : James Bond never dies) sure it’s just a f movie
It's not an SS symbol. It's a stylized lightning bolt. The symmetry is off for it to be related to Germany. That's like saying anything with SS is a Germain thing. Look at the logo, the bottom line is longest while the Germain, (Nordic rune) has every line equally as long. I guess some people see Hitler's mustache in an Amazon logo while others just see tape.
They were everywhere due to Gene's brilliance: Lunch boxes, posters, t-shirts, buttons, pins, TV, movies, anything that could take an image or logo had KISS printed on it. Millions of fans became members of the Kiss Army. I doubt many joined the GNR Navy.
Carlos Santana is the most overrated guitarist in music. He's good, but not the guitar god he's made out to be. He came on the scene at the right time, built his legend there, and never lost it. Had he come on scene today, he'd be forgotten in a week.
Paul and Gene are clowns man. The early music was fun! Maybe it’s because I got into their music as a kid but The first record to love gun I generally enjoy.
KISS are the clowns of rock ‘n’ roll. Rose & Tyler were right, the music is not the first priority of a KISS show. Their music just isn’t that good, maybe one or two songs from the whole catalog are decent. The lyrics are stupid and the musicianship is very standard and boring. They certainly don’t deserve to be in the same conversation as Santana.
Good for Aerosmith on wanting the real OGs of kiss Peter n Ace and im gonna see Santana this summer and i already know hes gonna blow kiss ass off off the stage kiss went down in flames they should be embarrassed with theyre tribute band kiss
