Cost comparison of the Cfmoto Cforce 600, Alterra 600, Outlander 700, Argo's Xplorer, Suzuki's KingQuad, Yamaha's Kodiak and Grizzly to find the best ATV for the price.
My local CFMoto dealer is doing $2,000 off MSRP on most machines. Winter is definitely the time to buy for good deals. Their 600 is going for about $5600 MSRP.
That was awesome. Loaded with great information and some great lines. That one at the end got me laughing out loud. Almost got asked to leave the gym 🤣 Appreciate the shout out too, dude. You rock 👑 ⭐️🏆
Yeah he does Rock he speaks the truth and he doesn't get mad at people when they speak the truth just like you do dirt tracks I think you got too popular and your nose got up in the air that's why I don't bother with dirt tracks anymore just a bunch of snobs
Awesome video good job keep up the good work I find the Bombardier not to be very reliable and dude it is extremely ugly just because it is so ugly I wouldn't buy it it's even uglier than a Polaris and I didn't think that was possible lol like Yamaha I own one myself but I did have a 750 King Quad don't know why I sold it I should have kept it next chance I get I'm going back to a King Quad definitely one of the best I would even say the best
Dirt Obsession is REAL (not some AI BS) and the best ATV channel on youtube! I also love ATVonDemand and DirtTrax :) You guys are the high priests of ATV journalism!
@@flyingbriando5521 If you are looking for a big bore four wheeler,I can help you with that also.Went through 22 belts on three new Can-Am’s plus one belt jammed in the clutches flipped me at 45 miles an hour and that was it. Plus many,many,many expensive repairs.I now have a completely tricked out brute force 750.I installed Elka shocks, Empire duals,Massive brush guard, bigger tires and wheels and warn winch. Probably left out a few things. Doesn’t have quite as much power as a 1000 Can Am but believe me it has a lot more than the 50 they say it does. Put the exhaust on it and clutch kit,really opens it up, hope that helps
Awesome video as usual. I've said it before and I'll say it again...all I really need to watch on RU-vid for my powersports content is Dirt Trax and Dirt ObseXXion!!! Nothing else needed. 🍻from 🇨🇦.
I have a Grizzly and a Rincon. Love my Grizzly, but waiting for Honda to be in this class too with something worthy. All they have to do is add a low gear, locking front diff and EPS to the Rincon and they have my money. Hopefully they will be in next years video. Love your content, you guys are the best!.
So happy to see a video from you guys. Was getting worried…..lol. To each their own but I’m not a fan of the China machines. However it looks like in 5 years they maybe #1 in atv sales. Personally I have 4 king quads that our family rides together on. They may not be the best in any one area but for me they never have any issues. Always ready to go. Can take us anywhere we point them. Just a simple, reliable, time tested machine. I sure hope Suzuki doesn’t get out like Kawasaki did with the Brute. As you guys know they are really good machines. The Can Am 700 is a nice new machine and it’s great to see them invest in a new design. Hope Yamaha and Suzuki follow suit. Thanks again for a great video guys. We appreciate you, merry Christmas!
Something to be said for simple, reliable, and time tested! Thank you brother, merry Christmas 🎅
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Great video as always, keep the content coming. Is there an ETA for a hands on review video of an Outlander 700? I am considering purchasing a 700 XT (the trail focused model), and would love to hear what you think.
Hey, new subscriber here. I'm sure I've watched at least a few of your vids over the years, but I just acquired a TRX700XX so I've been scouring RU-vid for any vids I can find. I saw the XX in your channel name, and thought for sure there would be some good XX content. I can understand not having any Honda Blackbird content (my other XX) on a dirt channel, but c'mon guys. You need to do a TRX-XX review!
Lol!!! It's true, we need to review one! Honestly, good ones are hard to find and usually go for top dollar.. None of us are fans of quads with irs which is probably the main reason we haven't grabbed one.. We have ridden them and ridden with people who have them and they're great machines!
Went from a 700 TRV Cat to a 700 XT MAX Can Am. So far very happy, though might have bought another Cat if my dealer had not stopped selling them. My Cat was very reliable for the 10 years that I owned it. Love the 2 up's.
Nice review! Alot of CF Motos sold around my area, price and standard features is the main attraction. Still own and love my 16 Brute Force and am sad to see Kawasaki drop it from there line up.
My daughter's got 2 Argo XR500 SE atvs for their birthdays. Great machine, heavy but solid. Same machine as Kymco and same 443cc engine used on Kymco and Arctic Cat 450.
Oh good info, I knew they were TGB but didn't realize Kymco and TGB shared an engine. Makes sense though. A 700 MXU is a solid machine too, just very hard to find.
I have been following your channel over the last year to see what new machine i want to land with and I am set on the grizzly 700. Sat on a grizz 700 and a king quad yesterday and the grizzly felt A LOT better. The king quad plastics felt cheap and flexed bad under my weight while climbing onto the machine.
Great comparison, I just picked up a new leftover 22 King Quad 750 for $8000 OTD for a base model. With a Kodiac being $10500 and a Grizzly being I’ve $11,000 it was an easy decision for me. So even with Bison bumpers a winch and a Kolpin rear box I’m in it for less than $9k
I’ve talked to lots of very happy CF owners who have years and thousands of KM on them. The weight of them is off putting as I load into the bed of my truck. When you have two adults, plus gear, food, beer you’re getting near or over max payload of most half ton crew cab trucks. I will occasionally tow my boat too and I am at max payload when the tongue weight is added The new CanAm is really compelling and I think would get my money if I were to buy today. I’d go 700 Pro XU
Bought a 23 Can-Am 700dps. It's the smoothest riding ATV I've ever ridden. The adjustable dps is awesome. Looked at all the other ATVS in this class and this was the best bang for the buck. Storage space is plentiful, access to the engine compartment is easy. So far no problems whatsoever.
Great review, get to ride almost everything at the shop on road tests before the customer is called for pickup. Enjoy listening to your assessment of the details of each machine. Sold 2 out of my 12 machines last week to thin out the herd, but picked up a Warrior project yesterday to fill that empty feeling in my sheds. Did I see some non-oem lettering on that little Moto4 spelling out "panty dropper", or has my age caught up to me? Take care guys, I hope you're all riding at 70 also.
LOL! You read that correctly.. The Moto 4 is a panty dropper! Good luck with the Warrior, I'd love to see that one.. If I ever find a nice mint Warrior I'm grabbing it.
Been happy with my 2021 cfmoto 600 pulls my boat to the water in and out no problem great on the trails over 2000 miles with no problems so far. It's my 5th wheeler and seems well put together But nothing will compare to my old Arctic Cat 300 with 16000 miles on it.
My 2023 outlander max 700XT has so far been honestly trouble free with 1300kms so far. It is a large improvement over my previous 2018 outlander max 570 XT, except in power. No complaints on my purchase.
Im not a Can-Am guy, but the mew 700 is a game changer. The saw mount is 30 years overdue. And ike you said, the mod selection and from factory is easy to get. If you live in wet areas, OEM snorkels are just a click away for peace of mind.
Another great video and all great points made. Cant stand when i click on a video and I hear Rosey the robot reading a script 😡. Here at Odyssey Offroad we also know all about crippling debt to support our ATV obsession 😅
The market for ATVs is just different from what it used to be 20 years ago. UTVs have taken over. It stinks, but I get it--why try to sell a $10k ATV when people are willing to make monthly payments on a $ 35k UTV? I'll always reflect on the old Arctic Cat 500-foot shift and my 650 H1. Those were great ATVs back in the day.
Best to do your research. Ive owned honda, can am, Polaris and suzuki. My 2023 600 touring cfmoto cforce has 4000 flawless miles on it. 9200 out the door and loaded up with extras. Every bit as reliable and more than most my bikes.
Nice list of mid displacement contenders for 24! Not surprised to see the Honda Rincon disappear. I really wish Honda would step up their game in the ATV market. Yamaha and Can-Am have some strong models for 24 though !
i went with the outlander 500 dps instead of the 7oo to save some $. so far it's been excellent.i added a bumper,handguards,usb and helmet heater plugs and mirrors,fender flares and a 3500# winch and still came in under 13k canadian.best of all,all my wheels/tires from my commander fit on the outlander,so i have mud/trail/snow tires that i can swap.
Curious about the outlander 500 and why Can Am included a de-tuned model. Do you know if it's clutched differently, or if the power starts at lower rpms making it more work oriented than the 700? Cheers!
I’m in the process of selling my rzr and planning on going back to a atv . It’s either going to be a new outlander 700 dps or kingquad with dps . I don’t need a fancy top of the line atv . Up here in Canada dealers are selling the outlander 700 dps from $10.200-10.700 . kingquad 750 with dps is $11700 . A course that’s before dealer fees and our lovely 13% sales tax . i know the kingquad has a record of being reliable but still undecided on what to buy . Saving a $1000 or more is always nice
My dad has a King Quad, I own a 2024 Outlander Pro XU and a 2020 Grizzly. We both agree the Outlander is the best of 3 in almost every aspect, while coming in very in price.
2023 Alterra TRV is my favorite all around. 1 year of riding at Iron Mountain Georgia and it has been flawless. My least favorite in my fleet is my 2023 Polaris Sportsman xp 1000 with ride command, power is great but it made me wish i got the Outlander 1000 or 6x6.
@JacobOverman We did for a few months.. In order to make videos we can't keep machines around too long. Except for Raptors, I'll always have a Raptor in the garage
I really hope you are correct. If so they will sell tons of them. Everyone really wants to buy Honda, but just aren't impressed with their current offerings. Please Honda get in the game!
Great video. Don’t really have anything to say just want to help out the channel by commenting. Just one thing, the Grizzly with the 27 zilla square setup is marginal at best for trial riding. Please, Yamaha, change the tires!!!!!!
I was looking for a kingquad but finally bought a 700 xmr because of the cheaper price. I m hard on it and it seem to be reliable... I m alway wot in the trail and the engine is starting to have a ticking noise but nothing to worry about. The thermostat is odd on those atv. It can take 15 min to get to its running temp... The front and rear drive shaft connect to the same shaft in the transmission, which cause a rotationnal force on the rubber engine mount. If you re beating on it, you can alway hear the engine stopper on top of the cylinder head hitting the frame because of that... And one last thing, normally on every atv or sxs, if you mesure the lower vs the upper a arm lenght( from bushing to ball joint) you will find the lower being longer than the upper which is normal geometry... But on the outlander 700, the upper is longer front and rear. They did that to have a better roll center in the turn and get more suspension travel by having better cv angle but the track width change is very bad because of that so when you re going fast in the bump, it s very hard to keep the atv straight.
i seen your review on rmatv on the terraforms with that said out of these shown in the video i still stand by my initial comment/s made on your grizzly and kingquad video from months ago and maybe the cf moto and personally i think the back rack sucks on those canned hams lol and lastly ya didnt include the sportsman 570's they have 700 class power and would probably whip half the ones in this video lol ive been lookin at different ones every s often and gonna try to get somethin sometime next year after ive gotten my credit built back up i just dont know what yet but ive got plenty of time to make up my mind
No I specifically left the Sportsman out because it will be in the next video. Honestly, I'm more comfortable recommending every other ATV on this list over the Sportsman anyway..
I own an 05 KQ and 08 Grizz, love em both. Grizzly has a much better suspension setup, and the new ones also have temp and volage gauges, something lacking on Suzuki, as well as a Park gear. But the quality and durability of the KingQuad, and oh, I just can't get over the face on how smooth that engine runs. It's not the 722 single, mine has the 695 Single DOHC, and it's so damn smooth.
Agree with all.. The 722 is very smooth too.. Surprisingly smooth for a single and very low compression which probably makes it one of the most bullet proof motors ever produced.
@@FullsendOffroad The suspension was stiffened to combat some of the front end dive the old ones had, it does that pretty well but still has very limited suspension travel. The Grizzly rides and handles much better, better powersteering, but I still like KQ
@@DirtObseXXion My KingQuad has no EPS, so I can't speak for it, but yes, the Grizzly has much better handling and comfort, largely due to the front suspension being mounted to the lower control arm, as oppose to the Upper arm on the KingQuad. Over really rough therrain, the KingQuad can be a slight pain in the ass. But a huge thing to mention is that the KIngQuad is a DOHC, which allows it to run much smoother, and be more powerful in both low and high end. I haven't tried getting my Grizzly to 60 yet, but my KingQuad was doing 62 and it still wanted to go more. It's an extreme powerhouse.
I came from a Kymco MXU 500 IRS and wanted more. Especially more cylinders. I got a can am outlander 570 with that amazing 650 two cylinder Rotax engine. Unlocked it, so it got the power of the bigger chassis outlander 650. It is a fabulous machine and makes me smile every ride. So I was and still am very skeptical with can am’s move to drop the two cylinder models in the smaller displacement class. I get the price point, but on the other hand ist was their usp. Enough for me to update to can am. I guess you drove both the 2 cylinder 650 and the new 1 cylinder 700 for quite some time. Which would you consider the better engine? I feel like downgrading if I would buy a new outlander 700 engine wise. Love the new style though.
The single is a step down from the 650 twin 100%.. It was a business decision for CanAm to compete with the current market while streamlining production. Can't blame them for it, and the ne Outty's are nice.. But there intended to compete in this class. 570 and 650 twin Outlander owners will probably find these a little underwhelming power/performance-wise..
I have a 2005 honda rincon , no cvt. No belt slip runs and start in -25 northern Quebec weather, but the girls getting old. Value are my biggest wants. I’m thinking king quad with power steering or the outlander 700. Any thought please help
I just bought a 2023 alterra xt 600. I was a bit nervous, but it makes me feel better to say everyone else is near broke with an atv habbit. I know it'll be worth it. And my kids will get to enjoy something I only dreamed of my entire life.
IMHO, as am AC owner too, I'd buy another one, reliable, well built, and low maintenance. BUT... Textton has shit the bed and seem to be smoking they're neighbours (Polaris) msrp crack pipe these days. Textrin has priced themselves out of sales.
so i had an argo 1000, traded it in. hard to get parts, like a tie rod, something so simple and no delivery or available time. a month to get an oil filter, got a Polaris 1000 ride command sportsman.
Great review... HOWEVER 😂 I would argue till I'm blue in the face that the grizzlies reliability is no where close to the king quad... The KQ is as reliable or maybe more reliable than a Honda.. this is proven over an over again. Even in any atv forum people will back my claim. Even on RU-vid there are people switch from the troubles grizzlies to a king quad.. Not to mention the fit an finish on ANY Yamaha as of late is just trash. I was think about picking up a new can am Pro XU HD7 to try out but I'm seeing lots of gremlins ... IMHO the king will always be king Even though it's long in the tooth..but there's a reason..don't fix something that isn't broke..plus I love the looks of a KQ
The Yamaha machines are the lightest and most reliable. They cost more because they are worth more. My 2008 Grizzly 700 runs like new despite having been run hard in steep nasty terrain. Don’t be fooled by bigger horsepower numbers on heavier machines. You will want to be on a lighter one when it rolls over on top of you.
If Kawasaki drops a quality single-cylinder release/replacement for the Brute Force I will buy it. If you look at Kawasaki as a whole and you see how far they have moved away from the ATV market, it seems unlikely that this will happen. Trying to stay positive though.
I’ve done my part over the last several years to keep atvs alive ! 3 Brutes 1000 Sportsman KQ 750 Grizzly 700 And now Outty 1000R. Sad about the Brute 😢
@@DirtObseXXion I edited that was supposed to say part not past . Yea it’s super nice but I don’t like some fit and finish things and the loud *** whirring sound from the rear end .
@firstoutlander the outlander is a good machine, but best handling, not so much. Especially a gen 1. I've driven 1st and 2nd gen 650's and 570's too. The KQ is by far sportier on the winding forestry roads. Not to mention separate front and rear brakes making a controlled drift much easier. My current ATV is a twin with 28+ more HP than the KQ 850, and again, I'm not talking power, the KQ was easier to manage at speed through the winding roads with confidence. Because a controlled drift is always better than relying on HP the throw the back end out. And my KQ always beat an outty 650 out of the hole. But not for very long.
@@firstoutlander again, I haven't ridden the specific new 500/700. But I'm just going off my experiences as an owner, and rider. But at the end of the day, all I can say is that the KQ is a sportier ride due to weight, power, length, and brakes. So you can argue my reality all you want, but you can't change it over a video online lol. And if you read through any of my comments on the new 700, I'm actually impressed by the new design and might actually get me to own a canam for once.
That's a good question but it's kinda hard recommend something without context.. Is he riding with you, what are you on how big, mature, competent as a rider is he, and what does he want? Very well could be time to just go full size so you don't have buy again in 2 years.. if it's going to be a utility, I'm a big fan of the Kodiak 450s and KingQuad 400 or 500.. The 500 size-wise is the same as the 750.. The 400 is a little smaller
Couldn't honestly couldn't tell you. Haven't seen any in the U.S. at all. In Canada it might worth looking at but I have no way of comparing it to a CFMOTO or AC. The downside would be more significant that argo, very hard to find, no aftermarket support, limited parts availability... The only way I'd consider one is if there was dealer within 20 minutes.
@@DirtObseXXionthanks for reply. I'm a bit surprised, as I thought Segway was originally a US company. Segway dealers are very common in Europe, just as common as Polaris, Can Am, or CFMOTO. It's actually harder to find Yamaha or Suzuki ATV dealer :-)
@NotTheRest I figured they'd be here by now too.. Lots in Canada but I searched Google when I saw your comment and didn't see anything in the U.S. Doesn't mean there aren't some outliers, but they're certainly hard to find.. I don't like to include machines in lists that I haven't at least thoroughly checked out in person if not reviewed
Have you heard anything about the new Honda TRZ I’ve been hearing they filed a patent for this name and I’m hoping it’s a new big bore ATV but I won’t hold my breath because it could be anything.
@@DirtObseXXion I seen it on the Honda pro Kevin you tube channel and a friend of mine that works at a Honda dealership told me something new was coming but that’s all he could tell me. Hopefully more information will be available soon.i will continue to dig and search and hope lol
@@DirtObseXXion Thats great! Im looking for some trails that would be good for a beginner, ive mainly done riding on the farm no trail riding before. Thank you for responding
@@HondaRancher420 The big commercial trail areas like Rush, Mine Made, Hollwerwood, and Blue Holler are all pretty much taken over by SXSs.. The trails are rideable but al lot of them will be crowded and rutted. The best ATV trails are in the Daniel Boone i.e. White Sulfur, Redbird Crest, and S tree. If you're further West then, Turkey Bay is pretty fun. If you're further East then you have can get to the Hatfield McCoy trails in WV which is some of the best riding in the Country. We go to Canmer quite a bit, it's small so it's not worth a long drive but if you're near central KY it's worth checking out. Depending on where you're at, Wayne NF in Ohio, Interlake OHV in Indiana, and Ride Royal Blue in TN are pretty fun.
@@DirtObseXXion thats a lot of information i really appreciate it. I will definitely try out Redbird Crest trail when the weathers nice. Not to far from Cranmer either so i will have to try that too.
Best atvs Nomenclature should not be used on brand new and new models because they are not tested to see if their best or junk.. 5 years down the road after consumers input ect ect You could have a best and worst title!
Why is everyone saying Kawasaki dropped the brute force? The redesigned Brute is currently on there website. Its the same machine just a new body for a starting price at $9,999
Also crazy news. If you guys haven't heard, Kawasaki just released a brand new 750 Brute. We all though we had to wait for 2025 for another Brute Force but here it is already.
They did exactly what Suzuki did in 2019 but in 2024 with LEDs and a color display. However Suzuki did change some internal engine and clutching components, mainly cooling. I like the new BF750 look but it still has the short end of the stick vs the KQ and Grizzly
@@district12tribute28 I'd say Kawasaki may be the right choice, even above KQ and Grizzly. It has all round LED's, a twin engine, color blurtooth display STANDARD, and that's for 10k without power steering. It's baffling. It is mainly the same machine with suspension, but in 2019 Suzuki still didn't do all too much with the clutching, frame, and suspension, they just tweaked all of those things.
@@FullsendOffroad I would put it far above the grizzly which I believe it was before due to Yamaha’s disappointing fit and finish issues in the newer grizzly (2016 to present). The Bruteforce and Kingquad have always been my favorites, despite the new screen and LEDs the Bruteforce still has the same issues it’s had for years. Besides the screen Suzuki still definitely outpaces it. For example, I think it’s very hard to justify no factory hitch receiver on a 2024 UTILITY atv. For me it’s definitely Kawasaki and Suzuki running the game. It would be nice to see Suzuki put one of their motorcycle vtwins in the Kingquad though 👀
@@district12tribute28 Yamaha's fit and finish still is on the same level as Polaris and Can Am. It's really the only issue, and once that gets fixed, Grizzly is best for me. The suspension is way better than KingQuad (I've never driven a Brute) and In general I feel that the Grizzly is just more well rounded. Kawasaki has always had some issues here and there. Suzuki is flawless in fit and finish and reliability, as well as the engine, but it lacks in tech, suspension, and storage. Yamaha's CVT also has park gear, which Brute Force and KingQuad lack. I'm glad to see the Brute force making big upgrades, and Suzuki has to catch up. The Main disappointment in the new Brute I'd say is not the hitch but rather that they didn't upgrade the suspension or frame much. Suzuki was similar in 2019, with just making minor suspension and frame adjustments. I'd still say Grizzly is top of its class, but it needs more power. I'd love to see a 750 Grizzly with a smoother running engine. But 700cc is still a lot and I love my 08 Grizzly and I'd buy a new one any day if I had the money. *I'd say that all three quads are absolutely awesome in their different ways and there is no objective winner. They're all equally good and the rest is just up to personal preference.* And I'd absolutely love to see an 800 KingQuad with the parallel twin from the V-strom. Also an 850 V-twin Grizzly with a wolverine engine would be cool as well.
@@FullsendOffroad Comparing 2024 models of them all I’d have KQ and Bruteforce tied and Yamaha behind both. Like I said I’m constantly around all of them except for the 2024 Kawasaki obviously but the Kingquad is definitely the most well rounded. Slightly better suspension than Bruteforce but no where near on the grizzly. The grizzly is comparable to Polaris on the new models but everywhere else it falls short besides color ways. The displays all show essentially the same information not including the new Brute. I will say the Kingquad and Kawasaki are significantly more powerful than the grizzly 50hp vs 47. The Bruteforce however despite the same horsepower laughably blows them both out of the water. Until you have ridden one it’s not really understandable, the Bruteforce feels like a 850. Overall Yamaha Suspension\handling, Kawasaki for motor and Suzuki for everything in between. I agree 100% about a vstorm engine in a Kingquad but I don’t expect it. I’m planning on switching to a 2024 Kawasaki soon as I have a 2021 Kingquad which before I had a 18 Grizzly and before that 2012 Bruteforce. They are all so near peer it’s hard to decide but I have Kawi and Zuki out ahead, the vtwin Bruteforce is nuts and the Kingquad is already so well rounded that the DOHC and better fit and finish are both more attractive than the Grizzly in today’s market. Like I said though I can’t put more of an emphasis on the Kawasaki vtwin it’s like a 392 vs a SUV
I think you needed to add an * to the Grizzly. The 700 Subaru engine was garbage, so I would've left out those 2 years of production. Other than that, I'd agree with the rest of the video.
I'm not sure either.. I thought it was an older motorcycle engine import tax on imports over 750cc.. That was Regan Era tariff that Harley Davidson petitioned for.. But Argo and CFMOTO figured it out so.. 🤷♂️
The price cost most more money. The price keeps most. Its B.S. it should be bound. Or make it ok on the road. It cost as much and not to put it on the road. Put them on the road.
Why? They are good machines. If it because they are Chinese, well, so are most cell phones, TV's, appliances, and just about anything else we buy. Money is tight in this economy, and CFMOTO gives us more for our hard earned dollar. 👍
