2024 BMW M2 vs 2024 M4 Comp RWD RACE! | BMW is lying.. 

It’s okay I helped him later and we even switched drivers.

G80 looks better? Maybe if you're Stevie Wonder. The front end of the G80 is horrible. They said it would grow on me. It hasn't.

Given the specs of both cars, I knew they were super close. The M4 weighs more and only has 50ho more. That’s not that much to carry the weight it has. Also, these two races will always come down to the driver. Specs are too close to say the M4 is a much better performer.

I appreciate the feedback. However, the M4 only weighs about 20-30lbs more than the M2. We weighed both. After teaching him the proper roll race technique, driver error was taken out of the equation. 50hp is HUGE if it was actually a 50hp difference, but obviously BMW is lying and it's not really a 50hp difference.

#money

We both run 91..

In a manual vs manual case, that is so dependent on driver. At least with autos, the computer is shifting both so you get a good idea of the speed difference.

@@JVette01 that is so true.

We both couldn’t

@@JVette01There is a chance his engine has been “dogged” a bit too and might be making less power than from factory. A lot of guys don’t properly warm up their oil temp and also drive mellow and idle for a couple minutes after driving to cool the turbos and engine down. Skipping these practises can prematurely damage snails. A lot of fellas with hopped up cars wanna get on it too early when they drive. Edit: I’m not asserting his car isn’t warm during all these pulls. It would have little choice but to be after this many WOTs. And I’m also not saying it doesn’t make the power advertised either as M2s are stupid fast and there is definitely a possibility you have a “factory freak”.

@@ivancliff2514 Thanks for your input. However, BMW won't let you redline a cold engine. It limits the RPMs. Besides, he doesn't do that anyway. I think the main takeaway here is that M2's (or just mine) make similar power to the Competition M3/M4 models.

@@JVette01 I’m aware of the limiting redline Audi does it too. But even when it’s gone keep an eye on your oil temp just for 15 minutes or so. I’m not saying you or this guy mistreat your ride as your cars are both clearly in great shape and both run strong. I was just surprised by the result as the M4s are also known to be monsters and to see the 2 compete so easily with it threw me off and made me start to speculate. Happy motoring!

Thanks for watching

Haha thanks

Thanks again!

@davidog4 Certainly the best bang for your buck in the lineup, but M3 xdrive is the best option if you have the disposable income!!

@@speeddemon311 Definitely great value for a full M car. Probably just software differences between them. S58 is special.

​@@speeddemon311can you change x drive to 2 wheel if you want? Don't they have a drift mode?

It’s 100% stock. I keep it clean with meguiars quick detailer

Thanks!

Definitely an M4 🤣

It’s an insult to M440i xDrive

The RWD M4s, when they came out, they made like 473hp, and the x-drive was boosted to 500+hp

The is the competition, so it has the 503 output version

@Entropied I would be angry with BMW if I had spent all the extra money on an M3 or M4 to see it get outperformed by its little brother!

Looks would definitely be a solid reason. Not everyone will want the M2 looks or M4 looks, so at this point it’s which one you prefer plus a bit more space in the m4

😂 one day 🤞

@@bikotheanimator6169 work hard 💪 and you can buy whatever you want!

That would be fun!

Who knows, only way to know would be to race them both or dyno both the old and new one at the same time

Yeah it was in DSC off on all runs. I know how badly the traction control cuts power in these haha

Not sure. The X drive definitely seemed a little quicker.

Yes, all competition (comp) models have 503hp and auto only.

@@JVette01 my brother's 22 xdrive absolutely walks my mk8r 😂

Well yes of course lol. Nowhere near the same performance. My stock M2 still beat a E85 tuned mk8r with ECU and TCU tune.

Thanks for your input, however, I verified the car was in the most aggressive settings with DSC off and even I drove his car and lost to the m2.

@@JVette01 generally speaking with all things equal, this particular model M4 should trap 4-5mph faster than an M2 when stock in a 1/4 mile. Let us know what was wrong with it when you find out.

@@ronalddoggett2604Buddy’s trying to justify to himself why he spent all the extra money on an M4C lol

I have a 2024 G82 RWD. I don't have a clue how to put the power down in this car.

No. Both ACN 91 octane

You made the right choice 👍 the other options would only make sense if you needed back seats

@JVette01 Or if you need a capable car in a rainy region of the country or need to actually get through winter weather driving! Another factor people forget is that the looks of a car are very important to most!!

Yeah, forgot about the AWD. Aside from those, M2 all the way ;) Looks are subjective, so you pick what you like.

@JVette01 Trust me, the RS3 looks nicer than the M2 when you have them sitting side by side if you haven't noticed, lol! I would bet that the RS3 would be in more peoples garages if they were basing their purchase on looks alone!😄

@@speeddemon311 It's definitely much more conservative. It looks like a typical Audi. Just like how the F chassis BMWs look like a typical BMW. The new G chassis design is different than what everyone is used to which is why some are up in arms about the new styling.

nice!

50hp is HUGE on a car with similar weight. And both cars have the same engine so both cars will be equally affected by octane.. lol

@@JVette01 usually if you see an equal weight car with 50hp more doing runs, the 1/4 mile time is usually about a 1/2 second difference Reason why I said not a big difference is because you said “ it might demolish you” I just figured you wouldn’t get smoked

1/2 second in the 1/4 mile is huge in the real world. Also, 50hp is about 4-5mph in trap speed too

He has more miles than mine. He was around 8k I think I have around 5k

That is true. Would’ve been nice if they gave it a widebody. However, it is a good looking car imo grilles aside.

Toronto Red

Yeah I’ve seen those videos too which is why I’m so confused on the results. The m4 should be smoking me

I've seen many G87 doing 8.4s 100-200 even official autotopnl time is 8.4s I think

I do that when I'm not holding the camera. When I hold the camera, I leave it in D, downshift, then take off and it will still auto upshift

Need to manual shift in manual mode and as u take off, shift back to D mode for auto upshifting and for it to stay in gear

It’s quite a trip but it’s well worth it!

If I google map it, at show 1400 miles??

Yep!

Impressive! 640 to the wheels or crank? And on what gas?

@@JVette01 To the wheels. 🙌

@@JVette01 I'm in Europe so I use Unleaded 98 Octane. The USA equivalent is 93, as far as I can find on Google.

640 wheel with a just a 93 tune is crazy wow! Congrats

@kayronmercieca8226 Nice numbers, but say goodbye to your power train warranty!!

He's definitely running 91... we both have the same crappy 91 octane and fuel level was the same

​@@JVette01But I guarantee you both didn't fill up at the same pump. Different stations, different quality of gasoline, and that's regardless of the pump sticker saying 91oct.

@@BlackWhiteBeast I tried to make this test as apples to apples as possible and now you're bringing up not filling up at the same pump... lol.. okay.

​@@JVette01I tune these cars JVette01. Obviously you shouldn't be pulling a stock G82 rwd competition from a roll in a stock M2, so I'm just giving you some of the most obvious reasons why you are. He most likely has bad gas. Though the pump said 91oct, it could be 89oct and the car will pull a lot of timing. I went from running 60-130 in 9.3 seconds bone stock from my regular gas station that sells 93oct to 9.7 because of a bad tank of gas from another station that also sold 93oct. It doesn't matter what the pump sticker says for octane if the gas is bad. That's my assessment based on experience with these platforms. These cars are very octane sensitive. I'm not stock anymore, and I'm currently running a 5.0-5.2 60-130 with port injection, e60 tune (done by myself), downpipes, and intakes. If you just mix 2 gallons of e85 to a full tank of 91oct you will see what I mean. The stock tune will pick up more power just from doing that.

I’ve tried mixing a bit of e in the past and it didn’t do anything for my m2. I appreciate your feedback, but to blame it on somehow getting bad gas just seems like a reach

High 3’s

3.6s best I've seen

Interesting take. Perhaps

This is the correct answer. Timing and power is optimized depending on ethanol content

Using this logic, you’d be saying the m4 is affected by heat and octane but the m2 isn’t when it’s the same exact powertrain.

@@JVette01 isn’t it possible his fuel is worse though? Did you fill up at the same pump?

Doubt it. We both use 91. I actually use Costco 91 in my m2 and it works great

@moominpupa Both need to be redesigned imo lol!!

This is true. We’ll have to set that up one day

Thanks!

Hey, opinions are opinions 😂

@@JVette01 😂😂 he was just upset and he had to let his feelings out

@b58Narek Yeah, he was hurt and simply coping in the moment!😂🤣

​@@JVette01when u do these races are u guys in d3 or s3 for transmission?

We’re in the most agressive trans setting which is D3. S3 is sequential (manual) mode that you don’t want to use when roll racing

This one might help too. ;) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yD81cqx3qww.html

Yeah, the comp models shouldn’t have any issues pulling on an m2. However, I ran my buddies M4 X drive and it was still very close

Do you have Instagram? I already did this race but it won’t be posted for a little while. I can send you a clip

@JVette01 I don't have it because I'm old school lol, but I'm certainly looking forward to you posting the content my friend!

It's going to lose the dig races, too. 😂

Stock RS3 aren't great for toll races. A dig race is another story. However, with just a tune and some bolt-ons and the RS3 becomes a roll race bully

​@@JVette01what happened

Watch the full video. There’s a run where we switched drivers and same result

Driver mod. In a straight line, auto..😂😂

M5 is a boat though

We’ll see!

Don't tell me that. I just put a deposit on a 2025 M2.

@@bretak74 bro i’m sorry 😭, it’s just all i’ve seen online may not be true 😂

@@bretak74they’re probably not going to make an xdrive g87, they don’t have any issues selling ppl an xdrive g80/82 for 30k more. My G87 has been awesome, you will love it

Some people would say so since it's a downgrade in the class of car. However, the new M2 would be quicker, more modern/updated, and be extremely fun to drive so I think it would be a good move.

Thanks for sharing!

Would you mind providing a comparison of ownership between the G87 and G80X? Currently have an FBO N55 and have been wanting to get into a G82X for a while, just haven't gotten around to pulling the trigger.... but the G87 has been growing on me a lot and the shorter wheelbase and boxy design is giving me R34 vibes and I really have come to like it. I live in the Midwest so snow/wet is a regular thing for several months of the year. If they made a G87 with Xdrive I'd be kicking down the dealership door to get on the allocation list.

​@@donnierion9347 all the g8x's are so good and fast its really gonna come down to preference. (used to own an f80 cs and the g8x are night and day better imo)... as far as comparison between the g80x and the g87, the g80x is obviously quicker off the line, hooks better, and feels more planted than the rwd g87. Over 4k rpm you don't really notice a difference in terms of speed tho (prob at 3.3k for the auto you wouldn't notice a difference. I have the longer geared 6 speed). the g87 is a bit more nimble but we're splitting hairs in terms of handling and speed between the models. Its really going to come down to what you need the car for. I live in vegas so can run a RWD car year around as it rarely rains and there's no snow. plus its my weekender so the g87 makes more sense than a g80 xdrive. but if you wanted a do it all daily that you can also be a hooligan in (you can get the rear out in both RWD mode and MDM mode with the xdrives), the g80/g82 xdrive would be the pick. BUT if you do decide on RWD, I would def go with the g87. its just a slightly more fun and better all around package for that set up (and looks slightly better to my eyes).

@@js002003 awesome info! Thank you for taking the time to write that up. Considering it would be my only car in the Midwest, the G82X seems like the play. Like you, I'm really loving the looks of the G87, but running the G82X until the AWD G87 is released looks like the play. The wife has an SQ5 I could take in deep snow, but I prefer the confidence of AWD in winter. Thanks again.

@@donnierion9347 no problem! seems like the g82x the smart choice, you won't be disappointed. and yah if that g87 comp xdrive does indeed get released, I'm def picking one up as well.

I can see where you’re coming from but tell me why the M2 doesn’t get detuned from bad gas but the M4 does? That means it’s 503 “on very good gas in good conditions” and the M2 is 453 all the time no matter the conditions and gas.. just doesn’t add up.

I’m thinking it’s boost related…trying to get 24.7 psi boost on 91 octane might only let the car go to say 20 psi and the M2 might actually go to say 19 psi (BMW lies). Therefore they are very close in power and thus the same acceleration, factoring in weight difference. Or the M2 boosts to 17.4 psi and the M3/M4 only boosts to say 18 psi on 91 octane. I would dump a can of octane booster into the M4 and leave the M2 on 91 octane, then run the cars again. If the M4 pulls away from the M2, my theory is correct…again if no difference in acceleration, I’m full of it. Sort of like running your M2 on 87 octane gas vs 91 octane. The M2 will run on 87 but the knock sensors will back off the timing, and back off the power. The engine management system runs the show.

My takeaway is that BMW underrated the M2 a lot more than usual, and just said 453 so it doesn’t encroach on M3/M4 territory on paper…Wouldn’t really be fair to race a car with supposedly 50 more hp and put octane booster vs my m2 rated at 453 and on 91 gas lol..

When I had my E92 M3, someone dynoed their car on 91 octane and then again after a few tanks of 100 octane. On 100 octane, the E92 M3 made 35 hp and 40 lb-ft more, at the wheels. Of course at about $10/gallon for 100 octane, it’s not worth the money for 35 hp. It’s sort of like running E80 vs 91 octane…there’s a difference in power. What you could do is compare the boost maximums as both cars have a boost gauge. That way you could compare the boosts…M2 max is supposedly 17.4 psi and the M4 is supposedly 24.7 psi max. I would have one person drive the car in various gears while the other person watches and records the boost.

This is true. This car feels (and is) faster than my e85 tuned 10 speed mustang GT that put down 450whp on a dyno

Shhhhhhh 🤫

Did no one watch the full video? We did switch drivers lol

@samuelfreericks168 Obviously you didn't sit through the whole vid!!🤣😂

I’d be down!

Thanks for sharing. A lot of performance cars have noisy brakes. In my opinion, the ride is fine but it doesn’t ride like a “luxury” car.

You know it’s a sports car right most your complaints are sports car related😭

Traction stability control has numerous modes u can put it on and an option to turn it off. With the M drivers package it gives u even more of a range of abilities. Seems like he has no idea about any of that. The noisy breaks are common for high perfromance cars and just require new brake pads. It's a great and very comfortable daily driver. Not even close to as harsh as a c8 corvette.

@@j.atl1 he's a tesla elon d rider and thinks his model 3 is on the level of a premium luxury brand sports car

Agreed. However, some people prefer the styling of the m4 more.

@@JVette01 Definitely. Question is…is that styling worth that much more money (if you’re not going XDrive)

I like the styling of the m2, so for me, no. However, I can see how others still prefer the m4.

If you watch the whole video, we did a driver swap for one run and the m2 still won

@@JVette01 I commented around halfway through the video and realised that. So fuel, or the m2 is bmw’s greatest kept secret, or his m4 has something wrong with it? Either way pleasantly surprised at the results.

Thanks

This was filmed in Mexico but normally I reside in Vegas

@@JVette01 stop being a homo this is clearly Nevada and you can tell by the street signs

You have a great sense of humor.

Just because it *looks* light doesn't mean it is. I already weighed it in a video, check for yourself - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--j_svircZmg.html

Who knows 🤷‍♂️

Didn't know that! Makes the M2 even more impressive by having more rotating mass and still doing what it did.

And the M2 doesn’t have those things?

@@JVette01 your friend has aftermarket aero and yes the M4 chassis is built different. There’s a reason why it’s heavier and there’s an M4 GT3 but not an M2 GT3

@@HaloDude557 You think that's the reason it lost/neck and neck with the M2?

@@JVette01 the weight difference is probably more than 100+ lbs because of optional packages, and the aero will be additional drag. You could even speculate that the elevation and heat hurt the boost advantage for the M4 comp’s power band. 10% more hp is not a significant margin and it slims even more with other variables.

1. The weight difference is not more the 100lbs. We weighed them both. They're within 20-30lbs of each other. 2. Yes, that would be a speculation, but I'd assume the same exact engine would respond the same to the outside variables. 3. 50hp is HUGE on a car that weighs around the same, it should be running away from me in the rolls.

I’ll think about it if you message me on insta ;)

The results are what they are 🤷‍♂️

@@JVette01 I just watched ur xdrive m4 vs m2 vid and he beat u everytime from a roll albeit close. The rwd is suppose to be a little faster then the xdrive from a roll. Even though I've never seen a vid validating that claim. This m4 was heat soaked or some shit idk or the rwd is just ass 😂 thank God for the xdrive.

Maybe BMW gave the X drive more power like they're doing in 2025? Not sure. We have the same engine/trans so if he was heat soaked, I would be too since we're in the same conditions lol

yep

Both cars are automatic in this video, but thanks for the information

@@JVette01I know. I also own f82 M4 Pure

Nope, we switched drivers so driver error was taken out of the equation.

I’ve found that the rs3 in the heat is super slow 😂 in better weather it’s decent though

​@JVette01 you know what you have to do now. Run another stock RS3. 😂

If I can even find one! Everyone has the old one that's always modded lol.

Gotta be quick after that 3rd honk! And most of the starts were pretty even

No thanks

Imo auto suits better for very fast turbo charged cars. Manual is great for N/A engines.

lol if that’s true it’s probably what, 2 hp? 😂

We’ll see

If it’s actually more than what it already has now.. lol

Darrell Coleman (s58 is the goat) already has a bone stock 2025 LCI M4 Competition running 10.7 1/4 mile.

Darn how'd you know. It's actually a 430i with full M4 conversion. Costed more than just buying an M4 but it's unique!

It's an M4, and I doubt that.

I agree! The Versa is one of my favorites.

@@JVette01 it’s a good economic car Versa Nissan is real daddy RB28 & VQ family, R390!

Thats why there are options!

We switched drivers and the m2 still won 🤷‍♂️

@@JVette01 complete BS

We were just as shocked as you are my friend.

@@JVette01 let me tell you I have a BMW X3M competition as well and it is faster than the M2‘s. I have raced many of them. I don’t know what’s going on with your video, but I know what I see in my rear view mirror every time I race a M2 in either of my cars. Maybe you have a factory freak, but there is no way that M2 is beaten, either of my cars. I appreciate the video.

Are you referring to the g87 2023+? The old M2 is way slower than the new one if you’re referring to the F87 generation

How’d you know?!

They work great

🤷‍♂️

Yeah I definitely spent thousands to femto unlock my ECU so I can make misleading RU-vid videos

@@JVette01 It's the NOS button

Same engine , lighter?

Since filming this video, we’ve weighed both and the weight disparity is actually less than 50lbs. More around 25-30lbs difference

Fair enough

For me it's opposite I hate G82 front and overall I think G87 is better looking car especially with fixed stance

Why do I love the new m2. Love it.

Ok