2024 is Intel’s ALL-IN year 

Unfortunately you have to take anything Intel says with an extra pinch of salt. It's been a while since they delivered.

Battlemage is expected Q4 this year, so in Intel slang that most likely means a paper launch December 31st 2024

"We at Intel are proud to announce, our previous 7 nm process node which we renamed to 3 nm has now been rebranded to Intel 1 nm. This represents an impressive update to marketing collateral and promotional materials that will keep Intel on par with the industry standard" - Intel Executive, probably

Memory latency chart is simplified to the point of incorrect. The difference between L1 and L2 is pretty large (as in 3x/4x difference). And the difference between L3 and DRAM is even larger. So, from L1 to DRAM, we are not talking a x3 advantage, but more something like x30 advantage. A massive difference.

9:50 This guy has no idea what he is talking about, yet again...says "probably Samsung" with two giant Micron logos on the memory chips. Why would I trust and pay attention to anything else said in this video if such obvious mistakes are not spotted before release?

2:51 NO intel just has the deeper pockets to force their will on these oems. I've seen this ever since i have work in the tech industry

Well, Nvidia just don't care anymore, so lets hope that Intel delivers.

I certainly hope so. We need more competition in the CPU and APU market.

hype up alder lake -> hype up raptor lake -> meteor lake can't even come to desktop -> hyper up arrow lake -> hype up lunar lake -> finally shut up and wait and see????

Jesus Christ! Those Turbo TDPs are fucking insane. Maybe in 2-3 years they will have more meaningful products, looking forward to it.

Five months later and man has been an Oracle. People are trashing Zen 5 for trending to be worse than the 7800X3D at launch, and the 15% uplift for Arrow Lake while unconfirmed at the moment could be tracking.

Intel - Just Wait tm.

We need these longer videos,I'm folding clothes & waiting for the dryer to finish lol...... keep up the good work!!

Intel have not delivered on their promises in a decade.

When was the last time Intel didn't delay by an entire year? When was 10nm supposed to launch as opposed to when it actually launched? Wasn't Alder Lake supposed to up-end AMD's hold on the market? Wasn't Meteor Lake supposed to be this huge efficiency increase and a big jump in IPC? When has Intel actually lived up to their promises in the last half decade? 10nm is just 14nm all over again.

9:51 This is clearly a Micron logo on the DRAM package. From the package etching itself, MT62F1G64D4AH-023 WT Micron part number states this is an 8GB LPDDR5 and not LPDDR5X package.

15:42 You would actually need to multipicate the performance increases, (if I'm correct) so it would be a almost 63% increase.

Wait, Intel are still in business?

Maybe they woke up after the last decade of slumber?

Many would appreciate the source of images you are using

We the new chipset and socket they would never convince me to buy Intel any more.

Isn't this good? Competition is good right? AMD and Intel and Apple are just competing with each other...

Yep AMD should be worried that they don't have enough chips lined up in production to offset the disappointing Intel releases.

Intel would not do anything, it they didn't got some kicking from Apple and AMD

Intel 7 is comparable to competitors 7nm nodes AFAIK, despite starting its life called 10nm.

9:30 So, now it is a good? thing to have all your eggs in one basket?😮😮

Intel comeback will official start with 20A and get back market share starting 18A, then own ass with 14A

Intel is definitely on the right path with the Meteor and especially Lunar Lake focusing on the efficiency and squeezing all the chip components including RAM on the same package. With continuous improvement of the chip logic and advances in chip manufacturing as well as next GPU architecture Intel can take AMD's spot for low power efficient SoCs with very decent integrated GPUs. AMD should watch out and answer to that and not wait because it can be eventually too late.

you rock! but still please send me a raw recording of yours - wann give you a processed version

When did intel actually deliver what they said they would do, at the launch time that they said they'd do? Lol intel needs accept they're second rate.

This competition in integrated graphics will lead to some interesting products

one thing I'd like to see intel address with battlemage is the power consumption. Arc cards use way more power than AMD ones for the same performance class and that's with AMD cards using more than NVIDIA

I wouldn't worry.

09:52 - Samsung DRAM with a Micron logo on it? Are you *sure*?

Seems like we've been hearing this for years and they never deliver. I'd be more interested if they were ditching e-cores this time around because it's telling that they still can't come close to AMD efficiency if they're relying on e-cores again

Can intel gpu run llama2?

They have the newest EUV and High NA EUV machines. It's just a matter of time now.

It's good to hear that Battlemage has a whole lot of hands working on it, especially with rumors that, as you say, Battlemage is just going to purely be a midrange desktop launch. If they took it easy this year, and hit hard with Celestial, they could take some market share!

As much as I'd like for Intel to do well for my meager stock holdings, I highly doubt it would be with graphics and definitely not with disaggregated graphics. I just don't think it's possible because of power consumption.

technically seen the optimistic one is 63% increase since 1,2*1,18*1,15 = 1,6284 =163% that is eficiency however, translating efficiency into performance is diferent, since cores get way less eficient at higher clockspeeds, so often with nodesize shrinking the best way to increase total perormance is to add more cores, but that is expensive so often it is in between.

Micron logo all over those DRAM.

Yes, but no mention of energy efficiency? From my personal observations, amd laptops run longer. Probably due to 7nm vs whatever.

Great Video. Thanks

Some tech tubers who say they have contacts at the OEM's report that there isn't any talk of battlemage products coming out this year. I hope their wrong and would love to see more competition, I hope Intel manages to surprise us all.

You forgot to subtract the performance loss of no hyperthreading!

Weird distracting high pitched noises in the music track I am assuming. Most apparent at 8:39 and the following 10 seconds

Tempted to build a new PC, but the new tech sounds so cool

Pat needs a new playbook for Intel products.

Intel is doing many good things, like investing in fabs, getting drivers right for their GPUs, and general software-hardware integration.

sounds like intel might be having some trouble with euv machines, i think i might wait for 18A to upgrade. i hope theres a 125w tdp for that node!

They just need to bring Quad Channel Memory support back and they will take the gaming crown EASY!

Yeah right. Sintel says every year 'AMD should be worried', yet all the supposedly new intel arch cpu's are just overclocked and power hungry refreshes of the previous generations.

Stop threatening already! You've been doing it since 2018! Show us your best and let the price drops begin! Gamers win in the end!

Given your track record with predictions, i take it that AMD is gonna buldoze Intel. Btw you should tell your buddies at urcdekeys that their office prices are insane.

I'd be already surprised if Intel releases ARL or BM at all this year.

Looking forward to arrow lake. Been holding off on an upgrade due to current offerings from AMD and Intel.

hmm... the ambience is actually different. I'm actually worried about Intel. The mediocre performance (sales) of Arc is making Intel want to re-consider the entire line-up. If Battlemage won't sell as good as AMD GPU's then theres a high chance of cancellation for Intel dGPU's. And no, I don't think BMG will have a tiled design. They could with memory but not with the GPU. They would end up the same as RDNA3 with separate memory. Why? Just look at MTL. As for ARL, its not much of a problem with AMD, specially if its gonna be late again.

Isn't Arrow Lake slated for Q3? I think I heard that somewhere. But these things change

We will see when Arrow lake and Zen 5 arrive, till then all just speculatius

Arrow Lake may do what

I hope you’re right. We need more competition. I wonder why none of these guys are competing against Apple’s M ultra series. 800GB/s bandwidth is incredible for ai. Ai enthusiasts are paying top dollar for apples m ultra series and I don’t see any competition in sight for this.

Is Forza Horizon 5 really this unoptimized or something else is up w/ almost 17GBs of ram being allocated @5:12?

Not a fan of what felt like two product ads in the video, knowing there is a laptop available with two screens (Which are generally terrible because of the portable typing experience) and a gaming handheld with drivers bad for gaming isn't an asset. I'm here to learn about the CPU itself, not 2 random products that have one.

For Battlemage I am watching to see if intel makes a move into the professional graphics market. nVidia and AMD both do a line that basically looks like it pays the salaries of their driver teams profit wise. If intel goes for it their approach may be a bit of shake up there, allowing intel to test out future builds of the consumer chips tech wise and scoop in on the lower end workstation market. For editing and media servers intel is not half bad, they may go after media servers on their road back to the full server market. They have some advantages with Xeon's with "cheap" PCi-E raids on media servers as well. It will be it seems a rough year for them but it will may make things interesting.

That lunar lake processor isn’t a new look. That’s what Intel MacBook processors looks like.

The future of laptop and computer repair is going to be soldering and repairing these devices are going to be heavily dependent on somebody’s skill to diagnose and microsolder at the component level. If you are thinking about getting into computer repair, you have to be considering learning how to diagnose and rework BGA chips.

Instead of adding the "*Lunar lake" you could cut the audio and replace it with the correct name...

Amd deserved to be kicked in their ass especially after they milking their consumer with the same cpu and gpu but rebrand it as new gen so they can mislead people and sell their old rebranded products with higher price, hopefully Intel keep bringing heat to competition because it benefits all of us who are consumer.

Intel Stock trades like tobacco shares, but without the big div yield.

Considering that 14900K isn't much faster than the 12900K that 15900K has to be more than 20% faster or it's going to be another embarrassment for Intel 😂 also AMD doesn't sit still and at least for me it doesn't matter what Intel comes out with because I'm already on AM5 😁😁

My AMD laptop is a lot better than it's Intel counterpart

Yeah right 😂

Lol probably like +50% perf/watt improvements which can be split into +20% perf and the rest will go into efficiency gains 😂

Let's be honest, performance from AMD and Nvidia line-up of gpu's from low, mid and high end and Intel from low to mid-end are not at issue, the real issue is the pricing stature of all these cards are not that great value. A mid-range card over $500 isn't mid-range, and if Intel can change anything when it comes to price to performance, great but I'm not convinced yet. Also, as good as the high-end market is to have, it's not where most of the sales are, the low to mid-end makes up the vast bulk of sales, AMD are already in a position to shake that market up but are not doing it, hence why it's market share isn't changing in it's favour, Intel could shake up the low to mid-low end gpu market, but its brand reputation needs to improve, as well as it's drivers before it can make a big impact, maybe with ARC 2, but without any major price slashing to shake up the market, it's hard to get excited about any of this as it's pricing most consumers out, at least when it comes to decent performance, which matters because developers will only target what most can afford. So again, the gpu's that are already on the market are not the issue, the price point is, AMD could change that but they seem unwilling, Intel could, especially with ARC 2, but we'll have to wait and see, being that it looks like these companies are getting used to the fat profits on dgpu sales that unless something forces them, I don't expect much change in the price point. With all that said, the APU market looks far more exciting over the dgpu market, and I would love Intel to do well in the dgpu and APU market but we've heard this so many times already and yet we are still waiting, and honestly, like I said above, the biggest issue isn't performance but the price point when it comes to gpu's, who ever corrects that will very likely gain market share, especially when AMD and Nvidia clearly don't want to do that, and considering that Intel is the underdog in that market, it would do wonders for its market share as well as mind share, AMD are in a position to do it but they went for the greed option and have not gained any market share, in fact, it's lost market share over the last few years. AMD needs to realise that unless you have a better product than your rivals, you can't afford to charge what you are charging for your products and to expect market share to change much, AMD is the underdog in the dgpu market with it's market share and even with it's mind share, that basically means if they want any real traction in the market, they have to be far more aggressive on pricing, and it's even more so for Intel in the dgpu market, and in the meantime, Nvidia is laughing all the way to the bank because it's rivals are not changing anything in the market to force Nvidia to slash prices, which Nvidia will be the last to slash prices, that opens up the door for rivals to eat into Nvidia's market share, but regardless, AMD isn't going to do it, they've had a few years now they could have done it and nothing change, Intel is an unknown, with them, we have to see with ARC 2, once its drivers are more mature and especially when it's new fab plants come online.

8W chip can get into a smartphone!! Only if Intel makes X86 licensable like Arm, they can save their space in the desktop market.

intel's track records says otherwise.. ill just wait till it comes out and see if they delivered.. and one last thing i would like to disagree is the pricing, i doubt they will give there most advance nodes for 600$ cant expect a multiple node jump 15900k to be priced that way thats too optimistic

Get your audio straight … so many *corrections!

You think Amd are just going to sit there waiting, as soon as intel release something new, Amd will pounce,

AMD has a patent for using geometric opperation across chiplets in a GPU. I think sort of Intel licensing that, thay will be limited to raster graphics if they try to do tiles. That's going to make those cards pointless.

Appreciate ya. Curing my ignorance 1 video at a time. It is a tough job but someone has to do it.

Well intel will compete but at what price? For CPUs which node will they be using and how much will it cost. I think it will be provably more expensive than TSMC for the high end stuff so performance wilk have to be that much more than AMD to regain DIY. That will be tricky seeing they are trying to hold on to Server and laptop and start in AI whichbis higher pruority than DIY. AMD is still gaining in Server and will be making a move for laptops as well this year and also has started thier AI push as well as low power with CPU AI built in. Tmhaving priority advantage with TSMC and having chiplet designs means they have more flexibility to mix and match CPU and GPUs depending on priority , goals, competitiveness and market demand.

i don't care about desktop chips. i want mobile gaming. strix point and halo look like the way to go.

Hopefully. I only like to support underdawgs. And AMD... well they haven't been one lately. Murdering the ever loving silicon out of Intel and nvidia.

I am looking to pick up the new ASRock N100DC-ITX - Intel Quad-Core Processor N100 motherboard and CPU combo for a low power entry build.

Will there be a Windows 12 that demands 40 TOPS? Meteor Lake CPUs run at 34 TOPS, making them ineligible to power AI PCs.

AI on devices other than a data center is a marketing gimmick, automated tasks in disguise.

Intel is using TSMC chips

All I hear is that Arrow lake will dissapoint . So Intel continues to sink.

What worries me about Intel is they don't have anything to show for big GPU AI accelerators or whatever they are called, that Nvidia and AMD have strong offerings. Pat is always saying AI AI AI but what does he have? Only laptop cpus with NPU's that amd says is slower than what they will be offering.

It felt like I was listening to GPU coil whine all throughout this video. Very unpleasant.

nah, having a weaker apu/cpu that is at best in the same level as last year's AMD's APU with higher wattages. AMD will be fine and intel is still stuck in weaker Arch Moores laws dead take on this topic is something to listen. Good take nonetheless

Intel is still trying to unload stock of the 13th gen processor (without lowering the price). The 14th gen is actually slower than the 13th gen but just as expensive. I'm not fanboy but currently AMD is blowing the doors off intel. My next processor is probably going to be my first AMD since my 386-40. The 15th gen CPU will need to be legitimately 15% faster than the 14th gen processor - I'm talking a real 15% increase -e.g. COD, Cyberpunk, video encoding - not just some niche program like minesweep noted by intel marketing. Batttle mage is interesting but unless you are king of the hill for gaming your lower end video cards won't get as much market share. I'd love for them to really make battlemage compete with the 4090.

You should see the MLID Intel Battlemage expectation leak released this week. It could barely complete with AMDs current gen, but when you consider that it will face AMDs next gen, Intel may have to sell Battlemage at a loss.

Meh. AMD will be busy in 2024 advancing their processors even farther past what Intel can deliver... in another 5 or 10 years. I haven't been more excited about AMD since they bested Intel and created the x64 instruction set, along with coming out with chips like the Athlon to take advantage of it. Intel is always too ready to rest on its laurels.

Battlemage is all but dead. We may get 1 or 2 discrete cards, but it will likely be almost entirely used in APUs. As for the upcoming Arrow Lake products, I hope Intel delivers for once on the their timing and performance targets, but the realist in me says it is not likely. Also, If they are smart, they should stop trying to win the "crown" with these 400 watt monsters and just focus on all around well performing chips. I already have a space heater if I need one.

I am glad to see the point that Intel has to compete in dgpus with AMD too (if headline of vid doesn't relate to cpus only). Intel compared its Alchemist graphics value vs Nvidia, but later they adjusted pricing to somehow match AMD. If Intel stay within midrange then they have to worry mainly of efficiency, excellent compatibility and good performance in most games, value (raster performance), but also release schedule, as AIBs don't like promises only to build on. Finally gamers are not 100 percent ok to go after Gunnir only. I believe that 2nd Intel desktop graphics could be most import for them, to either end that bundling their products with Nvidia Geforce (xd) or end up as just gift maker. But it could not be that bad to start with bundles of Nvidia gpus in Japan, there is strong gamer community there and Arc probably end up as buyers family or friend PC graphics work horse, with direct report to Nvidia customer. I am not good at names🤷🏼‍♀️, Intel lakes make it hard for me, hope they stick to numbering of their cpu gens, otherwise I maybe pick some Ryzen XY00. 👉 Oh I almost forgot, she got really nice hands.👈

4 min in and this just sounds like a commercial for intel. Most my interest, sorry

I use a 12 year old 14 core Xeon. I honestly don’t care. 😂

As long as intel peddles silly big+little CPUs that mess with my workloads they can go screw off.

Great work as always, Celso. I can only agree with you.