I think the closed cartridge forks is definitely a step in the right direction. In the mtb world it is standard since many years and nobody misses the very maintenance intensive open hydraulics.
Hey Mark great video as always ,i have a 24 300 xc tbi and out of the box its a great bike ,with a few mods it will be perfect i still have my 18 and 19 tx 300 with a keihen carb ,stic module and jd jetting kit ( purchased from you thanks) in many ways overall both bikes do not feel that far behind the 24 300 xc tbi ,if you have a late generation carbed ktm 2 stroke i would keep it ( i am keeping mine )that said tbi is the future.
Hi Derek, Pleased to hear that you enjoyed the video. Yes, I still have my 2017 300 EXC and will probably never sell it :-) Greatly appreciate your business. Thanks!
I sat on the 24 Husky and Ktm 300’s today and felt more comfortable on the Husky right away at 5’10 ish it fit just right. Thinking it might replace my Beta 200. Looking for reviews on the Husky but not many out there
I really liked my beta race Edition 300. Rode it for 200hrs of hard enduro. But I sold it this year after riding friends huskys in the Gnar and noticed they did much better in the nasty terrain. For fun I ride the where they host the Tennessee tko hard enduro course as it’s a nearby riding training area. The husky goes over the round slippery rocks with much more confidence. I’m 5’9” and I can reach the ground easier too. The husky 300 Climbs and descends the steep hills with more stability. I even revalved the beta suspension twice, kept the topend fresh and it was still not as confidence inspiring as my used 2017 husky 300cc with 400hrs of enduro. What a machine. I bet it was even better when it was new 😂
I just picked one up 9-12. Currently have a 21. Got it home to my 1 acre lot. I have a figure 8, a log. Played around and I will say. It’s an absolute dream. Seat design. Pegs to bars distances. Steering stem angle. Clutch pull is lighter than my EZ pull lever. There is absolutely zero lag for power due to an electric power valve. When you buy something new you hope it’s not only shiny, but better. I haven’t been single tracking yet. So my review is early. But I often use my yard to practice so it’s a safe review. This bike absolutely blows me away. I can’t believe how well it can turn. Felt much lighter too. Mapping switch is a huge change in power delivery with instantly noticing the arm stretching power. Motor isn’t broke in so I haven’t wound it out. But it felt MUCH more powerful. I race a lot and there is no one out there pulling a hole shot on me ever again😂 this thing rips with ease. I don’t have any comments on the suspension yet. Sort of…the rear, it drove out of corners well planted with no unpredictable stepping out. And I hadn’t done any adjusting. Just unload and ride. So we’ll see how I like it when I hit some trails. Sucks it’s not broke in because the Saturday that came we did a dual sport event having 50 on road/ 50 off-road miles. But couldn’t bring it since it had 12 minutes on it😂.
Not sure if it's different than the US bikes...the XC-W's, but they're coming in the "Advanced/Hot" map...even though the manual says differently. There's been a few guys over here that've tested it and have found that it's in the green map from the factory without the switch fitted.
That's interesting and as you said, different from what's written in the owner manual. I have no way of checking what map mine is set to until I get a map switch :-(
@@TokyoOffroadI have a 24 300xcw, I saw the same thing in the manual. I was very eager to get a map switch, found one on eBay an the bike was already in the aggressive map. My friend also got the same bike an it's the same way
The map setting is stored within the ECU so it remembers which map it was in even if the map switch is removed. I have checked 4 2024 300 EXCs so far and all came in the green map. Either borrow a map switch from a 2023/24 SX/XC bike or maybe check with the dealer - I'm pretty sure they can read/switch the map setting with their XC2 tool.
@@TokyoOffroad I'm guessing it'll be the same way. I got a set of raptors 5mm down/back, really liking this setup I'm 6'3" it really helped open up the cockpit
Thanks for the updates. How does it compare to your ❤ bike the 17? I actually like a "violent" feeling mid/top like on my 2020 exc (modded, a lot, TSP) but also love and need the low lugg.
My 2017 300 EXC carb bike engine is far from stock (RK Tek head, VForce reed valve, Keihin 38 PWK Aristriker with STIC block, FMF Gnarly and Powercore 2 silencer, red power valve spring) and I love to ride it. The engine has great power and torque everywhere. The TBI bottom end feels similar to my carb bike and is much better than any TPI bike bottom end power that I've ridden. With the Standard map, the TBI mid and top, as discussed in the video feels quite flat and different from my carb bike. Very keen to try the Advanced map (higher power). Hopefully the map switch will arrive soon, or a method to switch without the map switch is discovered...
@@TokyoOffroadon the tpi bikes there's a simple connector above the engine, connected is map 1, disconnected is map 2. The map switch on the tpi bikes just served to connect or disconnect the connector
You added protection like for Erzberg Rodeo race ;) I heard opinions TBI gives linear power not as much aggressive and with character as carburetor. My carb Sherco 300 se had more low end torque then TPI so we'll se how is with with TBI but something tells me it will be the same. .
Yes, I often ride in rocks, so having good protection is important for me. My 2024 TBI has far better low end torque than any TPI bike I've ridden and similar to carb bike low end.
The stock 2024 setup is 13/45 gearing with a 114 link chain. To run 13/50 gearing I'm using a 116 link chain which seems like the perfect length. The reason I decided to use a 50 rear sprocket, rather than using 12/45, is that all my other bikes/wheels are 50 sprockets and I like the convenience of being able to easily swap wheels between bikes...
Yes, the size feels very similar to previous generation. I will continue to use the stock handlebars (I stopped using high bars, or risers on all my bikes), but as mentioned in the video I will use some lower and further back foot pegs when they become available. Other than that I felt comfortable on the 2024.
Pleased to hear that you enjoy the videos. I'm not very knowledgeable about rental bikes as it's not something I do. But I'm guessing that none of them would knowingly allow you to ride their rental bikes on off-road trails. However, there are some MX/Enduro courses which have rental bikes, but you would only be able to ride the bikes on the closed course, which is different from what you want to do...
The motor sounds crisp!! Regarding the Map switch. Where the switch plugs in it must be possible to either open the circuit or ad a short circuit like on the older basemodel TPI's that came witout a swich.
For the TBI models the map switch is different from previous generations and plugs in to the CAN BUS. There is a CAN BUS connection behind the headlight mask which has a bus termination plugged in if there is no map switch installed.
Yes, I did talk about the suspension a little in the video. It’s the best stock suspension I’ve used. I weigh 74kg (no clothes or gear) and had the clickers at the stock settings. It work well. I’ll continue riding with the suspension like this to get more experience with it and see how it performs at different locations.
Hi Bike looks great , i rode my tbi TE300 2024 this weekend for the first time and it’s fantastic however it definitely is running a bit rich just off idle…. Did you feel this ?
Pleased to hear that you received the tool OK. Thanks for your business. I didn't ride is with the stock 14/45 gearing. it would've been way too tall for the slow, more technical riding I do. 13/50 works well, although I need some more time on the bike (riding again tomorrow). If you want to keep the stock 45 rear then I would suggest trying 12/45 gearing if riding slow, steep terrain.
Were the triple clamps off your previous bike or did you get new ones for the '24? KTM has a different part number for the split clamps. Haven't found anything that shows what's different.
Sounds rich in the mid but sounds strong off the bottom. Know anyone with a 23/24 SX/TC or 24 TE? You can borrow their switch to change the maps and it will stay in which ever is selected when you disconnect it.
Yes, I agree (rich mid and on top). I'm not sure if it'll improve as the engine breaks in, or how much is due to the map. Someone I know has a 23 TC but they don't live close so it's difficult to borrow their map switch. Will have to wait...
Did you find a big difference in changing from a 45 to a 50 year sprocket? I haven’t been out on mine much yet but even with stock gearing it lug’s awesome.
I'm using 13/50 gearing. 12/45 would be close to it. 13/45 would be too tall for the riding I do. I chose to go with a 50 rear sprocket because I use 50 on my other bikes too so can swap wheels easily.
@TokyoOffroad are you running the stock lower part of the handlebar mount with the ROCS/BRP setup? I can't decide between the ROCS Tech or Talon. The stock triple is 22mm offset right?
Yes, stock is 22mm offset and the XTRIG ROCS clamps are 22mm offset too, so no change in offset. The handlebar mount lower is XTRIG FlexFix www.xtrig.com/products/handlebar-mount
I have 6 hours on my 24’ 300 XCW. The fueling is very rich. Unsure what map it’s in as standard but it feels like the power valve does not open all the way in the upper RPM’s, it’s very stifled. The engine needs to clear it’s throat anything above mid-range. Almost feels like I’m hitting a rev limiter at 7000 rpm. If my bike was delivered in the “hot map”, this thing has problems. Runs good at low RPM. Fuel mileage is not great, 40-45 miles and dead empty riding similar terrain as your video. I am running FMF Gnarly pipe and Turbine core 2.1 spark arrestor, east coast US.
My bike feels the same as yours. I have a buddy who works for KTM and he confirmed that the manual is correct and that if a Map Switch has never been fitted it will be in the STANDARD Map (lower power map). I'm seeing if I can borrow a map switch for the next ride on Sunday so I can try the ADVANCED Map (higher power map) and see how it compares to the standard map. I'll be sure to upload a video...
Similar, but not the same. TPI with injector relocation is typically done by adding and plate between with the injectors positioned between the intake manifold and reed valve. TBI the injectors are mounted to the throttle body, so quite a bit upstream of the TPI relocation. Another TBI engine difference is that the power valve is now electronically controlled.
The 2024 owner manual states "If a combination switch has never been mounted, the STANDARD mapping is activated". However, @Shecki603 commented that US bikes are being delivered with the Advanced (hot) map activated. I'm keen to get a map switch and test as soon as possible...
The stock mileage was very bad (was running rich). I’m now using a TSP ERM map tune and mileage is much improved and no longer an issue for the rides I do. I don’t measure the actual number of km, or miles I get from a tank as most of my riding is slow technical stuff and if doesn’t really mean much.
I purchased the full seat. It's called the "Factory Racing Seat" KTM part number is A46007040000C1A. The seat is different from the 2023 TPI. The 2024 seat has a single bolt fastener at the front of the seat so TPI seats will not fit.
KTM have a PowerParts seat for the 2024 which is 15mm lower than stock. KTM part number is A46007940200. You can order from your KTM dealer, or online. Doesn't look like a 1" (25mm) lower seat is currently available from KTM.
