Hope you enjoy rust and continuous issues with cheap parts breaking. Reviewing a brand new vehicle is very different to owning one. LDV are trash, possibly the worst Chinese brand.
Great move by LDV that lays waste to those who speak against the wide potential of commercial electric vehicles. More and more commercially viable EV’s entering Australia is a great move towards the future. The LDV variants, as explained by this excellent review, seem to offer excellent prices and a very competitive range of design variants. Great remarks re torque, that’s the magic of EV’s and in these van variants it will make them fantastic commercial vehicles that have potential far beyond many of their fossil fuel equivalents. Great to see a positive review of this commercial range of vans conducted by a major reviewer. Cheap to run and keep serviced. Fantastic. Thanks for an interesting and informative review.
As a once professional courier driver in Sydney, my average daily routes and ad hoc deliveries were on average, 250Km a day. so yes, the range is more than enough, even with the smallest battery. i like the 180 opening doors, allows fork lift drivers more room, and less chance of a crushed door from a dodgy forkie.
you wont be maxing out 250km+ on daily frequent city driving with loaded van, more like half of that. get real with limitations of battery powered cars, guys..
LDV for me . The first sensible EV I have seen as a town delivery vehicle it would be great. The best thing is no digital speedo , i hate them . Analogue instruments for me.😊.
Matt nice review mate (fellow Aussie motor bike reviewer here) It’s great to see someone looking at the commercial vans, so many reviewers won’t do reviews unless it’s a sport’s model this or that. Well done 👍 (only thing I’m not sure about is your thumbnail “Cheap Chinese Van” $60k ?)
Thanks mate! Yeah, workhorse vans aren’t the happy experience of a Lambo. But it’s what this channel will be - videos for people who are looking for info about new models, vans included! Cheap over the life of the van, at least. And it clicks well… 🎉😂
Had numerous LDV utes at work, we get less than 3 years out of them before they retire under 200k on the clock, generally rust issues start very early. Wait for a BYD version, as they’re far superior brand.
you have no idea how fast technologies and skills changed in China in just 3-4 years time since you had yours. MG, Buick, Chevrolet are also made by SAIC who also makes LDV. MG is selling really well worldwide.
@@Truthstelling you’d have to ask my boss. 120,000 km warranty runs out then it’s issue after issue after issue. By the way I’d never buy one nor recommend one, they’re trash.
Paul, I got the same feedback from dealership in NZ. A courier was saying he's constantly bringing it in for repairs after hours because he has a biz to run. Thanks for info on rust. These companies do get it right eventually. Say when! 😅
I'm glad you talked about visibility. When you mentioned that glazing wasn't an option that was pretty much a deal breaker for me. My current work van is actually a passenger version that I took the back seats out of so it has windows all around which gives great visibility. I could probably live with just one window on the left side but zero windows & no camera view is not appealing. Apart from that it looks great & I'm sure there's plenty of people who don't care about the window situation.
Yeah, that left window is very handy when you find yourself in the median strip trying to spot a gap. I'd definitely have to get that sorted by some sort of aftermarket company.
I am driving the Maxus 3 now. Pretty nice in your weather, many nice perks. When you're getting closer to freezing temperature the heating stops working, also the charging and one pedal driving. The phone won't work. The bar for showing the charge shows 7 of 8 bars but the percentage display shows 37%. Etc etc etc
If the steering control buttons are anything like the Deliver 9 you can use the up / down on the left hand side to alter the centre lcd screen on the drivers instrument cluster to display the current speed as a digital read out.
It’s different mate. I asked LDV’s people and they acknowledged it’s a concern. Hopefully an update with a new template for the screen (ideally with a digital speedo and remaining range on the same screen) will be implemented via a software update.
Thanks for the good review. I think a next generation model would hopefully fix the issues I have. A profitable tradie won't be having a 45 minute lunch or want to drive around to find a fast charger that, at 70Kw+ isn't fast. The quoted range of 360 km would likely be halved with air-con, high speed highway use, towing a trailer with loaded roof racks and inevitable battery degradation. A bigger, heavier battery would have been a better move but even the competitors don't do it. There are a few attention to detail issues that need to be addressed such as the gear change location, flimsy barn doors and inadequate camera. (I have been injured from my previous van having a protruding pin and weak hold on it's barn door). I was keen to love this but some other brands offer the critical attention to detail required. On the plus side, some of the standard tech is good.
For that money and the type of vehicle range just simply is not enough. It might be fine under perfect windless 25DegC weather but… add battery degradation over time, cold weather, wet weather, windy weather and loads range is going to be somewhat below advertised range especially if you use the heater as well. Until they have 450km range plus it will have limited target market.
I tend to disagree. Courier drivers and tradies alike don’t usually do more than 300km in a day. Obviously there are exceptions but as a general rule they don’t. And fleet back-to-base operators will be fine with this sort of mileage. There shouldn’t be as much degrading of the battery as it’s a CATL unit.
@@simonmanners4108it saves a lot in fuel and maintenance. Battery degradation is hardly an issue with EV. Besides the battery had 8 years warranty. Range as with all Vans depend on load, driver and weather.
A great review thanks. You didn't mention battery chemistry. If its NMC those unladen ranges will be too skimpy and if you need that extra 20% you will wait too long to fill. If it is LFP ignore most of that as you can set off with 100%. Also, isn't it true that if you charge this vehicle on AC single phase (like most homes only have) you only charge at ~3.5kW but if they had put in instead a 7kW single phase charger you could charge at home at ~6.8kW? If most owners work from home single phase would fill the battery overnight but not this 11kW 3 phase requirement.
I failed to mention they are CATL sourced batteries, and from my understanding that means they’re LFP. Yes, the charging mechanics are about as you state. I have a 7kW wall charger at home, so it’d top out around that (meaning 12-13 hours to charge from 5-100).
Nice looking van but the range is pretty poor. What happens when your on a time frame and have to do more kms in the day and you dont time to charge the battery up to continue with the job and deliver parcels on time? I dont think people are about the long term issues, yeh its great for short distance but usually every delivery driver does more the the range in one day
if i ran a van in syd or melb then it would make sense but when you get into wa or sa everything is just a bit further away . tomorrow i'm driving my transit van on a run from perth to gero which is 429km , which will take 4hr 20m then i have 4hrs work to do when i get to site. inefficient to charge them at ampol for 69c a killowatt though , depot might have to get dc fast charger installed
Could you kindly provide an update on whether the LDV eDeliver 7 will include dual kerbside doors in any upcoming models or revisions? As a courier driver, dual kerbside doors are essential for our operations, and information on their availability would be highly beneficial. I've searched but could not see any information about that. Thanks kindly.
Had my ed3 for 10 months in uk had a couple of small etc issues, but on running costs it’s a no brainier £400 low night rate for 11k miles that’s only 10% from my mitsubishi l200 , it’s paying for itself in fuel savings 👍
apologies if the info was on screen I am a blind subscriber Is there an LFP battery option and what are the driving ranges for the low roof long wheel base options in both battery sizes Cheers
Back in the day , i ran the old LDV , nice to drive . Drive a Vivaro these days , this looks just like it. As Lecky is over 70p per KWH still sound expensive to run against my oil burner.As there is more room than i need , why dont they have an inside charge socket ? inverters and Lithium backup inside would take away range anx . Regards from rainy UK
Check the floor load height, much higher than a ICE van. Any of the positives mentioned come with an ICE van too and none of the many negatives of a BEV, least of which is the price.
Is the chassis square tubing like in the smaller model. Build quality has me worried. Saw another RU-vidr video the next model down underneath and the van is poorly built will not last. It would be good to see if this larger van is more of the same or if it’s capable of lasting and getting the NCAP certification
Wow, super expensive, we’ve seen these type of vans (different makes and models) loose almost half their range once loaded, not enough power to do a full days days delivery.
No. We don't charge while having our lunch as this means you're working during your break. Do you sit at a fuel pump for 45 mins and eat while refueling? Nope. 😅
You can AC charge on site. I see many enough builders sitting around fuel station parking lots. So you can DC charge it as well. And you don't need 45 min. You can put in 10 or 15 fir plenty of extra km.
Your obviously not a Tradesmen, as they work on a different basis, they are mostly self employed, "working during your break" doesn't apply to them, as they are not, paid by the hour Employees.
You're First to give the full overview on them. They are Maxxus Van in EU. Didn't see the height variants shown, yet. The H2 roofline is nice for a campervan. You have no e-Expert van from Peugeot in Australia? I'm running one of those. I'm full EV on all my transport. Why bother with fuel cars 😅
One major setback. Infrastructure! I run 4 vans, and not one of them is, or can be parked where there is available power. And what about resale and insurance? Used EV's depreciate as quickly as their battery range, and you pay a premium for insurance. Sorry, not the future for me, or most I reckon.
I didn't say what the range is fully laden because I didn't drive it with a load. But bingo, if you do that many miles a day, you're going to need to stick with a diesel.
LDV was made in Washhood Heath, Birmingham, UK. Classic white van then, used by Royal Mail (Post office) and police during the tail end of the 20th century. The Chinese bought it, just like MG which was also made in Birmingham.
I don't want a van but are you joking a an EV van doesn't make sense especially from China and we know about LDVs rust problems and in the ICE versions and what is the real range once fully loaded also l was a courier and did an average of 50000 kilometres a year around 1000 kilometres a week how often would you have to recharge and if you are an employee driver what a great bludge they are you will bet paid to sit there for an hour or two to recharge and that Mercedes EV van saw a review on EV carnage and he was not impressed by the Mecedes EV van and how long will it last before it needs replacing the whole van no if l was buying a van it would be a Toyota Hiace because they are everywhere old ones new ones still going strong and I have noticed that Australia Post is using Hiaces and we are fortunate not that we are been forced into EVs unlike Europe and the
@@Network_Films l was a sub contractor courier for over 30 years and there were days were l would do 300 kilometres and l would sometimes be carrying heavy loads an EV would not make sense if your wheels weren't you earning money
