2024 NFL Draft Discussion with Former Vikings GM Rick Spielman | PFF NFL Show 

He left the Vikes 15m over the cap stuck with 5 or 6 aging players on bloated contracts. It has taken Kwesi 2 off seasons to get things back on track

@@robe2504 you just described easily 25/32 teams in the NFL currently

@@robe2504 He would have gotten the cap under control. Besides the guy drafted all the great players you guys have/had including Justin Jefferson. Smh rookie

He sucks looks at all the teams he was a GM for horrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can’t draft to save his life Draft Guru Danny Savage

@@A.j.Harris In 14 years he never had the same level of cap space or control that Kwesi has achieved in 2 years. I'm not saying Rick was terrible, he was fine, average, but he definitely wasn't great. Your memory seems to be very selective, sure Rick did draft a few great players, but only about 12 of the players on Spielman's last 90 man roster (2021), are still on the team. You remember picks like JJ, but conveniently forget picks like Treadwell, Ponder, the guy picked after JJ - the late Jeff Gladney, another 1st round bust Mike Hughes, or even Wyatt Davis, an early third rounder that never played a snap in the league. Rick had 4 out of 30 3rd round picks in 2021 and managed to pick the only 3 guys that are basically already out of the league or practice squad guys - Mond, Davis and Chazz Surratt. Just look at that round and see the players he passed on - Odighizuwa, Nico Collins, Alim McNeil, Quinn Meinerz, Melifonwu, Deablo, St Juste - nearly 20 starters of the 30 are now starters. Only Darrisaw, Bynum and Jones II & Nwangwu (just) remain from the 11 players from Rick's last draft. Why are you so quick to insult when you are clearly underinformed, lack context, and really don't show any depth or nuance in your thinking? You sound like a bit of a lightweight...

I hope it will be back when it’s football season again.

it’s so perfect for BB that I thought it was fake at first

It was incredible 💯😂

They need to bring it back.

Agree. The Watt sound bite is also annoying

Lmao. Hopefully they don't blow it. I'm a 9ers fan and I want to watch him play. Def not worried about ya'll taking the division 😂. Jp - take it easy bro

He made Magic (Mike) Kirk Cousins oart owner of the Vikings... let that sink in...

​@@StillKeepOnLosingCousins was the best guy he had available. What was Spielman supposed to do with an good roster he assembled without an QB?

@@adrianbuck8772 Magic Mike's cousin Kirk and his fans are blondes... You like that?

@@StillKeepOnLosing Why should anybody care about the hair colour of an professional athlete? The GM is paid to maximize the succes of the Team. They had an good roster without an average or better QB. They Upgraded at QB. Off course the price was big. But that happens when there is an bidding war. Tell me what would have been the better Option he had available? Case Keenum?

He sucks look at his draft n trade history. He sucks

He's a Colt McCoy and Heineke type.

Look at his draft history he blows

@@dannysavagedraftguru you literally don’t know ball lol drafted : Stephon digs / Danielle Hunter / Harrison smith / dj wonum | chris darrisaw | dalvin cook | eric Kendricks | pretty much their whole oline which is one of the best in the league and not to mention literally the best receiver in the league / future HOF in JJ 😭

@@dannysavagedraftguru 🤣🤣 nothing to say huh

@@gangstaland1 you just named 7 names half of them nobody ever heard of you realize he has worked for numerous teams not just Vikings ???????????? You talking like Dalvin cook Hendricks are stars pls darsaw the ot. Pretty shitty resume if you asked me. But why don’t you goggle all the other teams he worked for he been in nfl 30-40 years. And he sucks just like your knowledge of football 🏈 Draft Guru Danny Savage

@@A.j.Harris he has worked for numerous teams look at his history JJ the best Daniel hunter 1 good year Dalvin cook washed you act like the hay named HOF Digs not HOF not even close he vanishes 4 games at a time. Google your friend see how many teams Spielmen has worked for and how many first round busts. Draft Guru Danny Savage

Exactly, if you’re burning a 1st round pick on a QB, he needs to have the raw talent to be able to beat guys like Mahomes, Allen, Burrow, Lamar, etc. if not, he’s not 1st round material.

​The expectation/bar for an player should and does change depending where the guy is actually picked in the first round (early, mid,late). Spending an mid to late first round pick on an guy which is around Jimmy G for example is an good pick if you need an QB soon. Most of the guys you mentioned where just difficult to get for the good Teams.

Top 8 is roughly the number of QBs which have separated from the pack during the past years. So having an top 8ish QB means you have an meaningfull QB advantage in most of your games.

yep, I learned a lot from the Quinn hiring. I was 100% convinced Quinn would be hired by the Seahawks. His coaching comp is Pete Carroll which makes sense. The Jay Gruden hire was similar in that he didn't have the experience to bring in a strong coaching staff. Rivera only cared about comfort and hiring friends. He could have hired Kevin O'Connell and passed. That's when I knew he was clueless. Quinn operates on an entirely different level.

I think Teams have nowadays adjusted trade value Charts (Pffs Brad Spielberger for example has one which has newer data in it compare to JJ) but they are not using the same one which helps in making trades, because slight differences can make both sides view themselve as draft trade winners.

The value chart in General should stay consistent but if there is the perception that there is only 1 guy of the higher Tier of prospects left that could be worth it to lose some overall pick value chart points. Future picks are valued by an expected future draft Position - some sort of discount because it takes time till the pick helps on the field.

@@adrianbuck8772 Right right. And I'm guessing each team has a different discounting rate for future picks. At a certain point it just comes down to, "do you want this pick or not." But jobs can literally be on the line based on the outcomes

@@nguye578 Also the Situation the Team is in right probably matters. For Kansas City and Washington are in different stages of their roster building.

Some teams use the old trade value calculator and others have created their own. How they specifically go about doing that is above my pay grade

lmao

Kyle is no longer his OC and Jerry Jones is no longer wasting draft picks on fat boys like Mazi.

Actually it's very important. You need to find out how much control other than just head coach Bill would want as well as who his staff he planned on bringing in. Y.ou can't just blindly hire him and then have someone like Matt Patricia come with him as Offensive Coordinator.

😂😂😂

What was he supposed to do? Loaded roster without QB + 1 decent QB available.

@@adrianbuck8772 They made NFC championship game with a backup... Eagles won SB with a backup. Decent? Cant win with Blondes....

@@StillKeepOnLosing Do you have any bad personal experiences with blond people? Also Kirk Cousins has brown hair...

@@adrianbuck8772 Your comments prove you're a blonde. Blondes just dint see it. Sometimes it's best they just dont talk. Well... All the time

@@StillKeepOnLosing Joe Montana did see it well enough to win 4 Super Bowls. Terry Bradshaw won 4 Super Bowls. ...