2024 Toyota RAV4 TRD Off-Road Overland Adventure 

I’d double heart this if I could.

@@drivingsportsY’all must be beefing😮

TFL is only good for towing tests.

I think some people like the appeal of their personalities, like you're watching your father/brothers/friends joking around. But I do understand the want for clear cut and dry information because at the end of the day you're watching a CAR review.

@@drivingsportsyeah those guys are a bunch of bozos. It’s amazing they get any views at all.

I second that! I would love a RAV4 Hybrid test like this one.

I enjoy my RAV4 Woodland with real (traction A, 3 peak rated) wild peaks. It gets great mileage and rides really well on rough roads due to to the springs used in the suspension. It's no off roader, I have use SUVs for that, but it is a decent little SUV once you replace the factory supplied tires, which are terrible.

I wish they made a TRD PRO Off-road hybrid

Are the tires for the TRD PRO Off-road a thicker tire?

What's Mazda's equivalent to Subaru's Wilderness or Toyota's TRD?

Anything the RAV can run through, a Crosstrek can too with more ease. If you want a Toyota and need more capability, just do a 4runner. I’ve driven my Crosstrek through 8 inches of unplowed snow (as a result of poor planning for my drive home from work) with no issues. It’s scary sometimes. If you try hard enough, anything gets stuck, but the Crosstrek is superior here.

Especially on this channel lol He could make Crosstrek go up Everest 🙂@@traviscollins3249

Crosstrek is vastly superior in these conditions.

NO problem.

100%

I can do it for you. Almost all generic all_wheel_drive cars/crossovers, except Subarus, uses separate multiple clutch units to connect rear(or front in case of BMW/Merc/Porshe) axle. These units located at the end of driveshaft near rear diff and have half a gallon working fluid(give or take) with dedicated pump to create pressure and connect/disconnect driveshaft to rear differential. Engaging this clutch creates friction between plates which in turn creates heat. There are no radiators for this rear clutch units so heat dissipates slowly. If awd is engaged for long excessive heat becomes critical and system shuts down to prevent damaging components like pump, seals, electronics etc. Borg Warner AWD couplings are good example, Toyota uses very similar ones. Subaru has incorporated its AWD multiple clutch unit inside automatic transmission(CVT in current models), and uses transmission fluid to engage/disengage clutches. Transmissions have lots of fluid (3 gallons or more) and often dedicated radiators to cool it down. So its most unlikely to get Subaru AWD to overheat unlike all crossover competitors.

Well, it's certainly something that they could reasonably resolve with a transmission cooler.

@@eskieman3948 The Rav4 TRD Off-Road and Adventure models already have transmission coolers. That's how they are rated at 3500lb tow capacity.

@@RRr-yl8zr Fuel economy is their excuse. Audi used to install proper mechanical central diffs in their cars, one called Torsen, which always provides awd and dont overheat. But now they shift towards system like in my first comment supplied by Haldex, under the designation quattro ultra. Its probably saves 2-3% of fuel coz of less friction loses. Its a shame that Ryan cant(or won't) test some Audis, Q5 or Q7 for exmple. As for VW Touareg, which is also equipped with Torsen based awd, you guys just dont get it in North America at all for some unknown reason. Its sad, coz it would have been great to see Ryan testing it instead of ridiculous Atlas or in addition to it.

Chassis overhaul lol

That’s a great choice. I love their brand. Certainly have come a good way just the last couple of years. Toyota and Honda take notes

My thoughts exactly, but for 99.9% of buyers it will be more than good enough for going to the grocery store. When they are being used as off road beaters in 15 or 20 years, that's when the AWD overheating will become a problem.

Crosstrek Wilderness is King. Just took delivery of mine last week and love it in Sunblaze Pearl.

@@RRr-yl8zr exactly, i agree

Better decision

All depends on what your wants, needs and priorities are. This is fine for the suburbanite who may see an occasional short stretch such as this on their way to a destination. 4Runner seems more for those who want to regularly see this kind of use.

Also depends on how much daily driving. I'd definitely take this over a 4runner if I had to drive more than 10miles for my daily commute or if I did lots of highway miles.

Ford expedition

4Runners suck as a daily

The hybrid awd system is better and you get twice the mileage. The regular systems only advantage is that it is cheaper.

Needs to catchup with Mazdas and Subarus. This patch of route was something of a slight challenge. If it couldn’t do this, that would be pretty disappointing

@@martinr8278 This kind of trail is more than 99% of owners will ever tackle or consider, so I think it's just fine as is.

A decent softroader.

Forester

@@hynsum Are you Ryan? If so how come?

​@Doc1855of

​​@@Doc1855Of course I am not. Just my opinion.

@@hynsum I respect that

Standard Crosstrek has great MPG for full time AWD and doesn’t have the penalty for space like the hybrid. Seats on the newest crosstrek are also more comfortable.

Thanks for the info!@@drivingsports

DJI Air 3. Best price/features you can get right now.

Awesome! Thanks for sharing! @@drivingsports

I’ll take the daily advantages of the better gas mileage, reliability and accelerating of the RAV4 over the twice a year need for better AWD.

@@RRr-yl8zrTrue, excellent points.

@@RRr-yl8zr that’s everyday?

@@RRr-yl8zrlol. I hear ya. I have a second summer sports car for speed so I traded in my daily, 2021 STI, for a Forester. My friends still make fun of me but I love the space, we camp a lot, and don't care about the speed. I have a 315 whp track car, standard, for the summer :)

It is two way. Traffic is rare, but it happens.

Any trail or AT should be fine. Watch for the mud ruts tho. Easy to high center if you don’t have a lot of ground clearance.

I don't think any AWD system can match the reliability and capabilities of a 4wd.

I just got my rav 4 today. I also looks at the subuwus right b4. Very similar is price. Reason i ended up buying the rav 4 was literally just on looks. I go camping and go off road but not very often. I live in CA but also like going to joshua tree, and up into the mountains nothing crazy. The rav 4 compared to the subi (just on looks) was much much nicer. I th8nk that if i were a avid adventurer and very often too it offroading id probably buy a subi. But also, ive only ever had toyotas and they have given me 0 problems even after the 200k mile mark.

The TRD it is the most capable. But no, I think the Crosstrek wilderness is better built for off-road adventures… if you can fit everything into the smaller vehicle.

I thought that too! Seemed a little risky with the sun dropping and possibly no cell service…

Nissan hasn't been proactive about getting us cars. No idea on that one.

The Adventure. But I think it doesn’t have AT tires. Does have the same rear drive unit.

I don't think they have one called The Adventure, I think the closest trim for off-road is the RAV4 Hybrid Woodland only because in the details it shows it has a TRD Tuned Off Road Suspension, but not sure of the other trims.

@@Veeetz sorry that was the American predecessor to the TRD. The RAV4 Trail is the equivalent Canadian model. www.toyota.ca/toyota/en/build-price/rav4?series=RAV&year=2024&model=J1RFVT

Outback is better.

​@@drivingsportsOutback in general or Wilderness and/or other trims?

@@ES-qt6yo depends on use, but I think in general the XT Outbacks are better buys than the RAV4 (with the exception of MPGs versus the hybrid.)

Way more capable, yes.

Lifts on these type of vehicles can cause extra stress on the CV joints. (Joints that connect shafts to the wheels.) People still do them. Warranty is voided if an incident occurs possibly caused by the modification.

Warranty of what? If you're sunroof stops working, your case won't get declined because you lifted your TRD (doesn't sound very good lol) couple of inches..

@@kevinstarski1598They could blame added flex from suspension warped sunroof. They try to find anything to avoid warranty repair.

@@kevinstarski1598 I have heard it's not necessarily that your entire bumper to bumper warranty is voided. But, if a part goes wrong that could potentially be attributed to the modification, then they can void it. My guess is anything to do with suspension, steering, drivelines, axles, etc. Seems like a lot of gray area, and a lot will depend on the dealer's determinations.

Aftermarket warranty perhaps...factory warranty typically aren't looking for any reason to void it unless it's legitimate@@ryanb8736

Good God, don't cry.

Pit Vipers. 😂

I don't think so. Not unless it had a full time awd/4wd system like Jeep has.