probably not worth to buy 1st gen anyways. i'm gonna wait a few years until they get it someone close to the bulletproofness of the current gen ones once all the kinks are ironed out.
Toyota thinks they can price this higher because they intend to bring to market a Ford Maverick competitor at a price slightly lower than the current Tacoma (guessing). I'm just not seeing customer's salaries increasing at the same rate these vehicles are raising their prices. At current interest rates, this will not be affordable for many (especially with dealer markups). These manufacturer press events feel like a big ole manufactured controlled advertisement where the manufacturer hides the pain $$$$ till the end/near production.
This is the most authoritative channel on off-road reviews, especially when it comes to Toyota and Subaru. This Tacoma refresh looks encouraging. Not a truck person myself but if the new 4Runners are similar it will be good news for the fan base. Expect price to go up substantially though. MSRP for TrailHunter will probably reach 70K
He does it right! He knows what people want to know. He does not hover over fluff points like easter egg names in the headlights and skid plates that have letters or symbols on them. He talks about the points that matter most! Which is why I am glad I found his channel.
@@drivingsports You know you loved it. lol It is a great change from PNW rain. Warm and you can go all day in it w/out worrying about the sniffles. lol I do think that is why you got stuck making your video in the rain, because the other journalists are too prissy to deal with it. You got the tolerance for it. 🤠 You man up, they head for the tents. lol
Cant wait! After the lackluster Sequoia (for my needs) the new Tacoma TRD and Trailhunter look like they check all my boxes. Removing that chin spoiler on several trims would be my first ‘mod’.
Glad I waited an extra 12 hrs to watch a quality/professional review of the Taco rather and a hard-breathing/stumbling/rushed review from other channels... great review as always!
To be fair, they had some of them scheduled too close together. In a couple of videos, you can see others on the sidelines looking a bit ticked off that they have to wait. In one video, there were 2 reviewers on the same truck.
@@66skate That is actually very common at events like this. I am more amazed when they are NOT all ticked off at each other. But since this event was rained on a lot, I assume their tolerances were down.
Love that Midsize trucks are getting the Hype. hopefully these are in a moderately reachable price range. the trail hunter looks like it would be right at home in the PNW.
I don’t think the Trd pro and the Trailhunter will be moderately affordable. 😅 they’ll probably be in the 50-60 range. Of course everyone’s definition of affordable is different. The lower trims will be the ones to get affordability wise. I like the Sport and Limited.
Love your videos! Straightforward, simple and full of info with none of the useless fluff just to make the video longer for RU-vid's algorithm. Thanks for the quality content!
Toyota absolutely nailed it with this updated Tacoma. Probably going to be REALLY pricey, and I am wondering if the hybrid was more for the torque (sorely needed) vs. the fuel economy. All remains to be seen, but the interior re-design looks awesome as does the exterior--Toyota will sell as many as they are capable of making, that's for sure. Great job, Toyota!
I know that everyone's ready for a huge price hike, but I'd actually more expect a same price tag near where they're already priced. We saw price drops on the Prius, and the Grand Highlander comes in a whopping $1,500 more than a standard Highlander. It seems like they're making them more reachable than their competitors.
You cover ALL the important stuff! Geeza Ryan, you never cease to impress me. I know that when I go to your channel, I will learn everything important! 1 tiny point you missed. (unless it is not real) In the rear bumper there are a Hi-Lift jack points. Seems you got put at the end of the journalists line to review since you were forced to deal with the Hawaii rain. lol I know that rain! WARM! Beats our PNW rain. lol Great review!
The current Tacoma starts in the mid-30s. I bet this starts around 40K, and upper trim levels will easily be in the 50s. The TRD Pro and Trail Hunter will be pushing almost 60K.
8:50, my guy just casually talking during a rain storm. Great review, overall I'm impressed with the new Taco, enough that I'm going to hold off on a current manual version for a new one.
My 2007 Tundra limited 4WD was $37K brand new, 16 years later, the same 2023 Tundra limited is $70K. I wish my income had gone up that much. Car prices are getting ridiculous.
And the option for 35s. I hope they figured out the issue with their 4x4 system not being able to switch from 4hi to 4lo and the locker engagement delay so I agree they still missed a bunch....could've done without some overly priced and fancy seats for any of the forementioned
@@Flash1776_ Yeah when you look back to even the first years of tbe ZR2 from Chevy they’ve always had a rear and front. Same with jeep. I would like to hear the engineer’s explanation.
People been calling up asking about these. We're already doing pre orders, 10k over for some base model, promised the first Trailhunter at no less than 100k. And we still have the reserve to decide not to sell if we don't feel like if we think we can gouge for even more "market adjustment". In the end, 90% of them pay the extra blackmail we place on them. We get around our floorplan model this way. Just wait till they show the next FJ. Easy 75k-150k. We just tell them up front what it is. Take it , or leave it. If you don't take it, the next Karen or Chad will. Karen needs to pick up her besties, and Chad needs to brag to all his bros on the driving range. You're going to need that street cred. I'm hoping we get that Crown sport. The regular Crown ain't selling. But that Crown Sport looks like a easy scalp..
This is a big win for Toyota. Previously Taco was cramped in the front and back for taller drivers. Looks like they really improved the dimensions for the front seats with only minor improvements in the rear seat. I think most buyers will forgive the limited improvements in rear legroom for a much better seating position in the front. It seems the actual front and rear seats are larger which takes away some of that legroom from the increased cab size. Hard to tell for sure without a side-by-side comparison.
I predict Ryan owning this Taco. Because I am sure he misses his TRD Tacoma(Like I miss my TRD Tacoma). I am actually looking at it, but can't pull the trigger(When they can be ordered) without FIRST seeing the 6th gen 4Runner.
Yes, but at the same time will miss that bulletproof 4.0. I honestly think that where 4Runner is right now is just perfect. Enough tech to keep up to the times and a bulletproof engine. Sure the trans is a little outdated, but it’s not hunting for gears like the 6 speed in the current taco.
@@EJPinter The current 4runner is incredibly underpowered and low on mpg’s for its given class. Reliable yes, but that engine isn’t good at anything else except going forever.
Inflation = devalued currency thanks to government deficit spending monetized by central banks. Voters are fine with this so it'll go on for foreseeable future until governments return to balanced budgets. Won't happen until there's a lot more pain.
@@James-il3tq Well said, but it's not like we have any choice. Fiscal conservative party is more than happy to run the printing press when they are in charge. Secession is the only answer.
Unfortunately small government, fiscal responsibility are something long gone. People became greedy and want free stuff. They want their daddy government to take care of everything.
This Tacoma looks GREAT! Im not buying one because Id never pay that much for a truck only to use it the way a truck should be used. I'll buy a used one in a few years when I wont be afraid to get it dinged up and dirty.😅
Like the controls and the included buttons/knobs, but that touch screen is way too big and an eyesore, kind of distracting tbh. Time will tell if these end up being better than the predecessors still running today.
Watched this for fun since I really enjoy the channel. Now it's got me thinking (dreaming?) about getting that Trailhunter Tacoma when my old car finally caves in. Can't wait for the hands-on reviews later in the year.
Thats an amazing set of trucks. I can afford the TRD sport, but I agree, first thing I get rid of that ridiculous chin spoiler. The only other thing, no AC outlets in the back for any trim. Otherwise a prefer truck wow just wow
Looks like hybrid fuel economy will be marginal/poor like on new Tundra. Hybrid has insane torque but (like the Tundra) will come at the expense of improved fuel economy.
@@matthewm3912 A small block V8 would have been significantly weaker though. The Silverado 5.3 (mind you a full size truck engine) only produces a paltry 383 ft lbs of torque compared to the Tacoma's 465 ft lbs.
@@matthewm3912 Who said anything about towing? The fact is the Toyota Hybrid obliterates a small block V8. You have to remember to get modern V8 economy numbers you need AFM and AFM has been plagued with lifter failures. So the Toyota is more reliable, produces more torque, and is more fuel efficient.
I was worried about what the new Tacoma was going to be like... Good job Toyota, now I need to save up to buy one. If it's as strong as the old one it's a good investment, a 20 plus year ownership is always nice
I think we can all make some very educated guesses as to what the next gen 4Runner is going to be like. From the Tundra to the Sequoia and now the Taco, they're being pretty consistent with the changes.
The mid sized truck segment is really good now! Cant wait for a midsized truck off road comparison! Tacoma Trd pro vs Ranger Raptor vs Colorado zr2/Canyon AT4X
My preference is hybrid for more power and better MPG(hopefully). I still have a 2nd gen and I don't want another 13~16mpg truck after build up anymore. Upper 20's to lower 30's would make me retire my 2007 with 300K+ miles. But of course, need to know the pricing first. Lol.
I’m so hoping that the Toyota Stout is officially announced soon and that you get to do a video on it. And then hopefully a comparison video between the Stout and Maverick.
As always, amazing coverage! Yikes on that front bumper on the Limited package. That air dam is nasty but assuming functional for noise and possibly gas mileage?
465lbs of torque from a turbo 4... on a midsized truck. The power numbers have gotten absolutely absurd I remember when getting 300hp out of a 3.5 V6 was pretty decent power output.. things have changed a lot in 10-15 years
Awesome torque but I'd rather see 340-370lbs torque with better fuel economy. Looks like Toyota didn't prioritize fuel economy in new Taco (like the new Tundra).
I remember my dad had a 1999 BMW 323i w/ inline V6. Hp was 170 and torque was 180. It is insane how much power AND the fuel economy new vehicles have. Engineering is pretty amazing.
@James I was hoping for better fuel economy with the hybrid, but it looks like the trade between the v6 and the hybrid is more power with the fuel economy of the 2.4.
Ryan is a true warrior. Lot's of experience working in the rain. PNW folk are hard core. Besides, Hawaii rain is warm and that is refreshing when you are used to being drenched from the merciless cold down pours.
I always looked at the trd pro as just a slightly nicer trd off road and didnt really see the point of it. Now they've done so much to make the trd pro feel special for the first time i kinda want one.
I got a bit lost when he says that on the interior of the limited trim is smaller/uncomfortable but on the TRD PRO trim, he is very comfortable with it.
I wish the full-time 4wd was available on other trims without all the chrome, etc. An SR5 with the hybrid and 4WD (really AWD) would be perfect for my needs.
4x4 Hybrid and a 6' bed option? Toyota might have me sold on it. It's shocking with the other brands that did their refreshes this year (or last year) that they didn't have a hybrid in mind. Very intrigued and with the iforcemax coming out next year, just more time to set aside more cash I guess lol (or wait and see how the competition responds).
Dope truck, would love to have one... but I'll stick with my $16k Frontier that I continue to mod out so I can actually use it and not be afraid of it touching dirt... No one that isn't worth several million at least would dare to test what these $50k-$70k trucks are capable of... Ok, I'm sure some will, but I like staying above the poverty line.
Depending on the price, I think they knocked it waaaay out of the park. We won't really know until the undefeated champ of trim levels is revealed - TRD Off Road!
The IsoDynamic Performance Seats are standard equipment exclusive to the TRD Pro. Only other seat option is to select another grade level of the Tacoma, i.e. TRD Off-Road.
They are hiding the TRD Offroad badly. You can get it in I Force max. I willing to bet you can build it close to this and will be more custom for aftermarket
Good video! My biggest issue is that it seems not a single channel seemed to report anything about the TRD Pro interior. It’s the ONLY interior that is shown and it’s…well…LOUD. No one bothered to ask the simple question: “Will this model come in more than one interior color scheme?” Flown out to Hawaii, put up in hotels, and it seems like most everyone just desperately tried to get as much video footage as they could, but never asked one of the most glaringly obvious questions? I’ve watched just about every release video from last week, and man…not even a “We asked but they couldn’t answer” answer.
Toyota won't know the answer to that yet. The TRD Pro doesn't go into production until 2024. It's waaaaay to early to ask about trim options. Those will be finalized just before the pre-order system goes online. The expectation is that it will follow the Tundra TRD Pro with Red and Black/Gray options.
Honest question about interior design…why do most all of the auto companies make the dashboards on their trucks so high that it’s almost eye level and you can barely see over them? Wouldn’t it make more sense to make it a bit lower so the driver can actually see what’s up in front of them? Let’s give some credit to the crew for filming this even when it was raining down!
