The no clutch start button is to allow you to crank over the engine in gear to allow you to use the starter motor to crawl the vehicle while in 4Low to get it moving. Comes in handy after you've stalled and need to get moving on difficult terrain without breaking traction. Old off-roaders trick...
That's NOT what it's designed for. It's made to be able to simply start it without depressing the pedal. Like of you're starting from the passenger side, or standing outside the truck. You'll eventually damage your starter trying to move the truck when stalled. Just get a driver mod going and slip the pedal on obstacles. This why no one makes manuals anymore... If starting on a slight hill that's fine, not while off-roading.
@@Shakerhood69 the owners manual doesn't say "to get out of a tricky situation" it says it can be used to roll uphill. Not offroading. If you know you know.
@@Shakerhood69 after reading up, the 2024 Tacoma has a cool down period to prevent damage from the starter, older truck, and noobs reading this will burn out their starters trying to use it instead of being a good driver to get over obstacles. CSC buttons have been around since the late 80s. But still aren't to be used for offroading. You can do it. And luckily there's nannies to prevent modern idiots from using it as a crutch.
Great review of the 24’ model. It seems the extra $1,100 for the automatic and additional features is well worth it. I wonder if they left the manual without sound dampening so the driver could hear the engine for shifting? I’ve driven manuals for a little over 20 years and appreciate hearing the revs and the overall feel of the vehicle to reach ideal shift points.. just my $.02
As equiped it will be pushing $50k. With dealer mark ups at first $55k. Loaded up will be $55k plus dealer mark up. $60k for a mid sized truck. We have officially moved to crazyville. 🥴
@@jloutz I do and am a subscriber. Did YOU watch their video? They spent about two minutes of their video with the vehicle actually off road and discussed very little of the features. They did however spend a lot of time on the driving characteristics and road manners of the vehicle. I love their channel but didn't think they went into anywhere near the detail that Ryan and his team did for the new Tacoma.
@@Yoyomanmanhollabc they are journalists reporting about cars. RU-vid is pretty useful for the content and info they put out. Manufactures work with them and give them information, as well as invite them first drives to first deliver that information to the public. And to answer your question, no, you are not a journalist if you simply make a RU-vid review on something. A lot needs to happen before that. Hope this helps.
@booggerg independent journalist can be just about anyone talking about any subject. Every American has the right to freedom of the press. That constitutional right alone is what protects others filming others in public without conviction. As long as you are on public land. The point is journalism is whatever person bring you info that you support whether a degree is involved or not.
The way autos are nowadays, they’ve essentially made manual obsolete. Don’t get me wrong, I love driving manual, but for the extra features you get with the auto I’d get the auto.
About the No Clutch Start - 2 valuable uses of that button. One, starting the truck with the truck in neutral without climbing in to press the clutch, saving time and mechanical wear. Two, you can actually use the starter as a way to get the truck unstuck by starting the truck in gear without engaging the clutch. The is an old school technique that isn't really all that useful today with the typical starter / clutch interlock safety features.
It will cost you about $45k for manual...in 2007 I bought a prerunner v6 for 24k out the door price. I'm still working at the same factory and my salary bumped up about $6 hr since that time. With raised housing and food cost I can't afford the same new truck no more. Sad
I've watched a few vids on the new Tacoma. This is the most comprehensive on the auto and manual. Driving an auto is against my religion. However its good to know what the manual is missing vs the auto. A-trac can compensate for crawl control and MTS to a certain extent, however not having the front facing camera may be a deal breaker for me and i may need to wait a year or two to see if they will add that in. I only drive manuals...
Manual for life or until I cannot drive it anymore. Then I go electric. The way electric work with the gas pedal is unique and cool. Automatic is just not part of my lifestyle.
Great review Ryan! While I am not 100% in love with this new design or the engine choice, I do like the D/C sway bar option and the Hi-Lift jack points. I liked your editing here with the designer explaining things as you brought it up during the drive. "Toyota does not trust me" LOL Nice. I am with you on transmission choice. And I liked that you specifically explained the extra benefit of the CC. The visuals and audio are very good. Professional on par job. Thanks.
@@Ara198826 They actually can’t afford it and are overextending themselves into a hole of endless debt. “Truck payment came out, so I’m broke til pay day.”
A no clutch start is an off roading trick to get moving from a standstill. You are effectively using the starter motor to get the vehicle moving with the vehicle in gear and the engine off initially. I can be smoother than launching with the clutch.
Also if you stall during a stream/river crossing with the transmission bell housing in the water, pushing the clutch usually lets some water/mud in which you don't want in your clutch.
If you owned the manual for a while and learn the clutch maybe put a short throw shifter in it you can crawl just fine. Manuals used to be how you crawl before electronic assist systems made everyone soft and not learn and fail.
My thoughts exactly as well. Grew up with manual transmissions in offroad situations...low range 1st gear and you could crawl up and over anything, oftentimes without needing to touch the accelerator, and same going down a steep hill, no brakes at all, just low range and 1st gear and let it crawl.
@@wildbill23c Same here with my 2nd gen manual v6 4x4 OffRoad. I put a short throw shifter in and it's really nice, except for needing 2 hands to get into reverse (got used to it in a week). Putting it in 4 Low and just crawling in 1st without any throttle is really fun, and it's amazing how it just chugs along, or slips and eventually grabs, just like the automatic controls. It's really a significantly more engaging offroading experience with a clutch and a torquey naturally aspirated engine! Although a 2024 auto with the hybrid would be nice for fuel economy and the cameras while offroading...
Manual transmission is the ONLY way to give driver full control of the vehicle. Manual transmission in professional hands becomes the smoothest way to get A to B in any conditions. When a journalist does not know how to drive it, does not mean it is not good. I have a 2022 tundra and I don’t like 10 speed automatic. As someone who grew up driving manual I prefer manual over any automatic transmission. I hope there will be a premium option for Manual transmission in terms of packaging.
Not a fan of marked courses set by the manufacturer. The off-roading is virtually meaningless if somebody has designed it for journalists. Fortunately, driving sports TV will put the truck through it paces eventually.
I'm not trying to be overcritical or disrespectful. How can you be an auto journalist and not be able to drive a manual transmission? That sounds like an oxymoron to me. Auto journalist should crave the opportunity to drive a manual transmission. I';ve been driving a manual for 36 years, 20 of those years in a Tacoma. That's should be a prerequisite to the auto journalist.
JUST drove the 2024 TRD Off Road Taco. Great truck. Surprised by the power of that turbo 4. Great tech, amazing seats, still kinda small back seat. (I’m 6’2”). But….. dealer in Fresno Calif wanted $8000 markup. No way!
A bit disappointing update. I drive a 2018 SR 4x4 and nothing here is really any different. Sway bar disconnect is the only thing notable. Oh, and the Bronco grab handle lol
TFL, and DST are where I go for my Reviews. I knew Ryan would deep dive into it, and getting a comparison between the manual and the auto was an absolute treat! Thank you Ryan! Can wait for you to get it on your course and do your own review on your own terms.
@@paulelledge8977yeah, the fake questions are annoying and pandering. “Can you guess what truck we are going to drive today?” “No, which one?” As they are literally sitting in it.
@@paulelledge8977 Well said. TFL is exactly like TMZ, no real direction, and really click baity. It’s funny how TFL always prides themselves as journalists, but they are far from one. I rarely go to TFL for an actual vehicle review anymore. I prefer auto buyers guide or redline reviews.
The no clutch start is actually really nice for passenger who gets in and wants to start the truck. It’s also really nice they put it in center instead of by drivers door. I use mine all the time when working on truck and don’t wanna climb in to start it
0:58 The Frontier doesn't deserve that. It's a great, capable, reliable truck. The only drawback is the turning radius. I'd put money on the current Frontier having more models on the road in the future than trucks driven by electronics
Front cameras seem really nice, and I wish I have one. As a FJ Cruiser owner who tends to go offroad solo with that big hood, I usually just have to get out, look at the obstacle, take a mental note of where I plan to put my tires, and off I go.
I have the same problem on my 4Runner. What I’ve done that seems to work OK is I have a garmin dash cam mini 2. I use my dash mounted iPhone as a poor man’s MTM system. It works but a poor substitute for the stock cameras
I have a 2022 tacoma v6 4x4. My main complaint is fuel range. I can go around 300 miles and need to fill up, I have a f150 4x4 v6 and it has a extended range fuel tank I ordered as a option, I can go 600 miles per tank and 400 towing, so if there was 1 improvement I would like to see a bigger fuel tank for trips,Towing and offroad, Its a huge difference when towing and nice to have .
Clutch Start Cancel, is great in offroad situations...the torque of the starter alone can help you slowly crawl up and over an obstacle....the better use and intended use is starting on a hill if you are offroad, and you've stalled a manual equipped vehicle on a steep hill, you know how nerve racking that can be to try and get moving again...Clutch Start Cancel, allows you to leave the transmission in gear, and crank the engine and at the same time the truck will start moving forward and take off without the risk of rolling uncontrollably back down the hill trying to start the engine and hold the brakes, apply throttle, and release the clutch in a smooth manner and not roll backwards.
I want a Tacoma so bad, but every time I watch one of these videos, I see it tested to handle off-road conditions that would be an absolute non-factor in my jeep. That little rock pile…? I was hoping that this vehicle would allow for have clearance for at least 35s in stock configuration perhaps with a minor lift. I guess I’ll just stick with driving an ugly vehicle that is far more capable. 🤨
Car emissions in the US are responsible for approx.18% of global warming. To use that statistic as the primary reason to push for pricier, more complex and less reliable engines in order to appease regulators and DC bureaucrats should be considered a crime. If the 4 cylinder turbo engine mentioned in this review was superior to the outgoing V6, Toyota would have never bothered with the V6. Also, if all of us drove nothing but this particular configuration, 82% of pollutants would still be harming the environment.
The 3.5 v6 in current Tacoma is gutless. Not enough low end. Modern turbo 4s spool up fast and give that low end grunt you feel in normal daily driving.
@@ygantmedia Yes, absolutely wonderful concept for a car, not for a truck. Pickup trucks are not designed for racing, but for towing, hauling and overall reliability.
@@Steelologist Well, trucks should have low end torque. That's what gets you off the line when towing or climbing. New engine has over 50 lb feet more torque than the V6 and peaks at 1700 rpm which is way, way lower than the V6. Really, the high revving old V6 was more of what you would want for racing.
@@ygantmedia If that were true, Toyota would have never bothered with the V6 engine. There is plenty of low end torque for towing in my V6 Tacoma which also happens to have the higher overall towing capacity than the 4 cyl turbo.
Manual transmission vehicles should not have ANY kind of noise control. You drive with your ears as well as your other senses and after you've gotten used to your vehicle you tuned into the hearing. I have a Jeep Gladiator Rubicon 6MT and i hardly look at the tach in daily driving - just listen and shift. Great review and thank you!
Thx for the video. Great that the 4th Gen is offering a Manual. As a 3rd Gen Offroad owner w/manual, really like most of the changes. However, the 4 cyl turbo is not for me. My $0.015, the 6 cyl NA motor is going to outlast the 4 cyl turbo. For that reason, going to hold onto my 3rd Gen
I'll buy Gen 3 if it 5K off of MSRP. The interior of the Gen 3 is soooo damn boring, and it was boring back when it was released in 2016. It looks just as bad as my 2002 Honda CRV manual. I bought that thing salvaged too.
Thanks for the review. Every auto journalist should know how to drive a manual. Also, they should know that you can slowly let the clutch out in 1st gear and let the truck crawl....kinda like the CRAWL Control.....
I love manuals. 20 years ago I went to pick up my wife on our first date in my 1994 Nissan Pulsar GTIR.. She had to push while I clutch started the car 😂😂😂. I am still paying for that BTW😂😂
Nice video. I regularly watch your videos so no surprise that you like the electronic off-road features. You kept asking why crawl control and MTS are not included with the manual transmission and even the chief engineer gave too broad an answer. It seems simple that the electronics cannot physically control the clutch pedal and the stick-shift lever, therefore those features would not work with a manual. But I hope in about a year to buy a new Tacoma, definitely with manual transmission, and hopefully with TRD Off-Road trim if they are really available.
Great review....but at 26:05 there is mention of Miata having the best MT out there on the planet!!!!! I'm guessing you haven't tested, or driven a modern Porsche 6MT? The Miata is good ( raced one for 5ish years at Infineon etc in spec class racing.....but the 6MT in my new GT4 Porsche is absolutely the best shifting gearbox I've ever experienced. That is all....carry on
This is the off-road truck that I dreamed for. As long as Toyota constructed the 19.375” rock pile that I crawl over and a dude in a black baseball cap/jacket gives me hand signals over the 6 feet stretch of rock. I am completely confident.
A loss of 1000 pounds of towing, loss of around 400 pounds of hauling, de-tuned engine for manual transmissions, extra maintenance cost from the turbo, plastic piping for the coolant side of the turbo, electric oil pump for the turbo, loss of under seat storage in hybrid systems, plastic interior..... all that for 55,000.00+ dollars WOOOO! Oh What a feeling eh?
Last weekend my cousin and i took his hilux up in the mountains with heavy rain, slapped on 4lo and and made quick work of the mountain and it was bad, holes the size of chairs. Yall are babying the truck.
Love the new design! Looks amazing. Honestly if I were to get one I would probably get the 2.4 turbo instead of the hybrid, at least if I was going to be an early adopter. Only because of the issues Toyota has had with its hybrid engines in the new Tundra/Sequoia. But those are the risks of buying anything as soon as the first version is released, there are always going to be bugs and issues big or small. Seems like it should be just as, if not more capable as the last generation Taco. Still confused about the decision to put the huge, low hanging front fascia on some models. But other than that,seems like a decent truck.
Great review as always Ryan, you're really makin the new Taco look good. Personally though, I can't wait for the new 4Runner to "potentially" come out with the manual again, I'd trade my '17 Tacoma 6 speed for one in a heartbeat.
@@Twigz11heard the same rumor and will rather wait for a manual 4Runner than the Taco. Plus waiting on three dealers to call me when get get the first manual Tacomas. If the mark it up much, they can keep it…
Ugh. Not a fan of the 4th gen at all. 1️⃣I have the 2021 TRD Off Road 6-speed manual 2️⃣ (drum roll) I have an actual KEY and not that push button start crap 3️⃣ folks, WAKE UP - If you dish out $41,000 for this turd, you’d better also put aside at LEAST $2000 for a new turbo when it goes out because (drum roll again) - ALL TURBOS GO OUT!!!!!! I’m gonna sit back and wait till about 3-4 years from now when THOUSANDS of owners start posting about how their sh*tty turbo went out.
TRD Pro is going to be stupid expensive just like everything else these days. Can't imagine what the new 4Runner is going to command. Love that it has a manual but early reviews have said the manual is terrible, good to see it depends on the reviewer.
I was waiting with high hopes for the Tacoma FINALLY having a front locker (like almost all their competitors), so I could order one. Nope. FAIL. Too bad Toyota, looks like I'll be ordering a Colorado ZR2.
If I was rich, I would buy a manual transmission just for the fun and nostalgia of it all. It would be the go to truck for bird hunting, a ride to the lake, or just burning around some pit in the woods. It would take me back 30-35 years to when every vehicle I owned were manuals because they were both cheaper to buy and could ring a little more power out of the paltry engines I could afford insurance on over the anemic 3 and 4 speed automatic slush boxes of the day. Now I'm mid 50's and as much as I'm in love with the fact that Toyota has the giant balls to still make a manual, my reality says if it was my only ride, I'd buy the auto. The automatics are just better and my shifting days are over. Don't get me wrong, I would love one of these manual trucks for a week, month, maybe even 3 or 6 months before the novelty and nostalgia wore off, but it would wear off. Because I'm old. I hope everyone young enough with a good enough job to buy a stick does exactly that, they won't regret it. It is a hell of a good time when your knees are young! Ha!
Clutch cancel start is the first version of A Trac. Put it in low start the vehicle in first gear and it will climb out of virtually anything. Been around predating the tacoma. Had it on my brand new 1994 1/4 ton toyota 😂. Only available in manuals of course
Absolute Fail 4 Cyl turbo will only last about 10yrs top. Who cares about emission and MPG's?!Manufactures need to stop telling us what they think we need vs what we want. V8 and V6 NA motors period!
It seems a new Tacoma Off-Road is better for me (dirt/gravel roads with a lot of ditches in Arizona) than a (newer) used 4Runner (about the same price range) 😅 Thanks for the great review!
Pro-tip: Know what every button/feature on the car does before you film. This business of not knowing what a clutch-cancel button is for, makes you look inept. Quite a useful feature.
I've had 3 Toyota SUVs (4runner, FJC, 4runner) and 2 of them had all the then current gen offroad aids. I used them once each just to see if they worked and then promptly forgot about them. I've never been in any situation where 4lo and a locker can't get me through. Driving modes I get, having a 'package' of a throttle map and whatever 4wd features you're gonna use so you don't have to hit 15 buttons and knobs is great. Think Baja Mode on Raptors. But the self driving stuff not so much.
I like the looks of the truck. Here in Europe we are a bit limited to the Hilux. Right now in BG you can only order double cab with 2.8 diesel and 6 speed auto and it goes to around $45-55k
Toyota gave us manual but made it unaffordable . No 4x2 option . Sr model manual starts at 40k that’s insane . Not only that Toyota took away carolla and other cheap manual vehicles
