You're not over reacting, love the screen on my MY18 765R. This 23 display is simply chaos wrapped into a TFT. Surely they can bring an update out and flash a new option minus the arcade graphics!
You’re 100% right with your issues here. I have a ‘22 RS which has the same screen. The tachometer is stupid. I leave it on the one that shows the RPM. It should just be a simple circle like the Ducati or a bar graph like the BMW or Aprilia. Your small issues are spot on too, mirror vibrations at 60+, same issues on the ‘22. It is a premium bike and I quickly forget these things after I ride it. As you said it handles incredibly and the engine is so good.
I bought a new 2022 Street R in April 2023 and I like the old school dash with the analog dash and tach. It’s all very easy to read and useful in my opinion. Enjoy your new bike!
I may be in the minority, but I like the TFT. The tach colors change, so I can tell if I’m approaching red line. I do think there should be more screen options though. I replaced my lights immediately too. Luv the bike!
I had the 2020 RS. Most people complained about the useless butterfly rev display. Triumph changed it slightly by making the revs easier to read with a slight bar addition highlighting the numbers. Still crap. Thought they would've fixed it but alas......
Its hard to understand why they would think its a performance gauge pack. They know how to make proper gauges... look at the speed triple. Anyway, I will get use to it, the bike is that good.
If they do a reboot to the TFT displays of 2019 on the street triple you will be thrilled! My 20. Speed triple RS also has the usable displays with. A legible Takometer.
I agree, the tach leaves much to be desired when knowing where you at in the rev range. I have been keenly eyeing the revs while in the break-in point, and I've had to change the top info to show my exact rev count. The older dash looked much better in regards to the rev range
Funny, I'd never look at the tach. It spins to 12k or something. If one runs out of revs on that, they need their ears checked. This is a bike to carve up twisty roads. Wheelbase too short to be drag racing, though I understand they put a lot of software on them to keep the wheel down these days. As to the turn signals, since I don't see them when I'm riding, so I'd never even think about it. If it bothers you, then it's a big deal. Neither would bother me in the least. The one thing that bugged me was the color in person, in the light if day. It looks gorgeous in very picture I've seen of the thing, but when I saw it in person, outside, the gold and sparkles made me feel a little like Liberace, but I still can't get the thing out of my head. I'm living vicariously, now back to play. Keep riding it.
I do agree with you that the revs could be displayed better. A case where they could have copied the BMW dash. In their defense, this isn’t a drag bike, it’s more about keeping the flow in the curves. Maybe you could find a shift light kit?
I know its not for all, but even a road bike should have a legible tach. Keeping your eyes no the road is a must, a quick look at the tach should be all it takes to see your rpm. The rs is a track focused bike and should have a a performance gauge pack. The tach on the speed triple is easy to read, it should be the same.
I really don't understand the comparison while choosing a bike between the MT09 and the Street Triple RS. I rode them both a couple of times right after each other at a roadshow where Yamaha and Triumph offered test rides at the same location. I started with Trident and MT 07 then Street Triple R then MT09 and then Street Triple RS and back. I can just say that these bikes are so different especially the MT09 to the RS. Just to give one example is the seating position of the R / 09 / RS. Even at my local Triumph dealer I test rode the R and RS and back a couple of times. Big big difference. But I am glad you found your good suiting bike hey :)
I agree with your view on the dash. I had a hard time deciding whether or not to buy the st rs or Mt09 sp. When I test rode the rs the dash definitely helped sway me in favor of buying the Mt. Overall though I still think triumph is an amazing bike with some small caveats. Keep up the great work with the videos!
Im sure if you put a petetion together, and we all signed it, triumph has to do something. I completely agree with you. Granted, the things you NEED to see, are there but you need to only be in the screen that shows the Tac....
The turn signals are exactly why I walked out of my almost impulsive Moto2 purchase. An $18,000+ premium motorcycle without LED turn signals? My Trident came with LEDs lol.
@@bcuzismoke Brother its not about the cost of the mod. Would I buy an AMG if I had to replace the lamps to LEDs? No. I'd wonder why a high end vehicle came with low end parts. The same stands here. They clearly have the capability to add LEDs (as seen on the cheapest bike they sell, the Trident), so why wouldnt they do it here? 765 of each colorway made. Only a handful made it to the US. For that handful, they had to specifically go out of their way to install shit turn signals. It makes no sense. It probably would have cost Triumph... $100k? Depending on how many of those bikes made it to the states. If you do not support the decisions of a manufacturer, you speak with your wallet. Simple enough. There are soo many good bikes out there - why would I bother? And all 6 of the Moto2s are still sitting at my local dealers.
I have a 2022. If you put it in the split screen mode, you can see the miles per hour and the tachometer at the same time it has the analog numbers but I agree the screen sucks other than that love my bike.
I totally understand you about the new TFT dash. It’s terrible. I have the 2019 765R with the TFT dash and it’s fantastic. It’s putting me off buying the new Triumph 765.
The 19 dash is so much better. If the triple was not such a good bike, I think it would be gone by now. Maybe they will do something for the 2025 model. All it needs is a firmware update, not a big expense.
You're not wrong, all the TFTs Triumph has been doing seem worse than the analog tach/digital speedo my 2013 Street Triple R had. They need to poach some of BMW's dash designers.
The turn signals aren't Triumph's fault, it's the US regs. Just fit some Kellerman LEDS from Brogue. The TFT screens all need redesigning, and much larger fonts used for the key info like Range, Time, Temp, etc. The rest of the bike is epic, isn't it? I love my cosmic RS!
Like I said to in other comments... Honda's CB1000R has led's for all markets, so it can be done. They did it on my Speedmaster and Scrambler 1200. I get it on a entry level bike, but not the RS. Oh and yeah its is epic!... I wouldn't have purchased otherwise.
That usb plug underneath seems to be a perfect place to power and put a gps tracker. Might need to add another cable to front for Insta360 or phones to charge.
Yo Ken, Your riding in my neighborhood! I'm a 60' plus Triumph fandude ( too old to be a fan boy) with a Street Triple RS, Speed Trip RS, Speed Twin and a R9T Urban GS. We need to do a ride in some of the country back roads! Zero enforcement! Looking forward to meet. Mike
22:07 - man they made such a big deal about the high res display and it doesn't seem readable. The TFT on my 2018 was clear as a bell to see tach and all the other info. Don't they know old guys that wear glasses ride these things too??
i must be the odd one out as i dont have a problem with the dash,screen two with the numerical tach with dark screen with blue colour,spot on for me,just as easy to read the tach as it is the speed.
I can see that some riders as yourself can read a 4 digit tach, but I can't. In fact, I'm kind of jealous that you are able to focus on the number tach between 10,000 rpm to the recline of 12,500 rpm. For me, it's a blur. The way the bike is geared and where the peak power is... the rpms move a lot faster than I can focus on, and the road a head A sweeping large tach is so much easier to read at high rpm. Just look at BMW, KTM, Ducati. But the bike is still awesome!
In Thailand the new Street Triple RS is around $14.000 dollars if you convert the money to American dollars. so I would not complain to much about the blinkers you got in the America market. and I am not arguing against it having a nicer screen. but I have never relied on a tachometer to tell me when I should shift. Where is the place you are riding in the video. it looks like a beautiful place to ride. I don't own the RS, but I love pretty much everything about the new Street Triple Rs. it looks great, it sounds great stock, handles great. I love the size and weight of it. pretty much everything except the lack of wind protection. when I test road it I was being hammered by the wind at higher speeds. I liked the walk around, enjoy your bike. at least the dash says good afternoon.
The turn signals are not that big of a deal... easily replaced and not expensive. I just think a premium brand should get premium parts. As far as the tach is concerned, when I'm racing my buddies or just feel like pushing the bike, I want a tach I can read. It's not a deal breaker, to many positives about Triple. I live in North Carolina... lots of nice roads around here. I'm ok with the wind, on nice warn day with the cruise at 65mph... it feels just fine.
@@Yo-Ken I understand that cruising at 65 the wind feels fine. the problem is that the bike does 150 mph. and it handles nice enough that you want to go above 65 all the time, but because of it not having wind protection. you don't really want to do higher speeds with it. or really anything over 65 for any period of time. only in just quick spurts. its not a bike that you can be on an open road somewhere and just Cruze at 120 mph on it in comfort for a 10 or 20 minutes. Like I used to do all the time in comfort on my 1984 Ninja 900. I recently bought a 2017 Ducati 939 Super sport with 2159 km on it. and I really love the bike. its a sport bike with semi comfortable ergonomics. similar to a naked bike, and it has a little bit of wind protection. but I am looking into getting a taller windscreen for it. but with that said the new Triumph 765 RS is a really beautiful machine. I am going to keep my eye out for one on the second hand market. but it might be a while before I start to see any. I really like both the colors. first I thought the red was the nicest. but now I am leaning toward the yellow. maybe because my Ducati is Red.
Hi Ken, I'm late on viewing this one, but I thought it was interesting that Triumph actually has a warning in the manual pg 170 to NOT change the shock preload as this could screw up the handling. I've never heard of this on other bikes before. It reads: "The rear suspension unit spring preload is not rider adjustable. Any attempt to adjust the spring preload could result in a dangerous riding condition leading to loss of motorcycle control, and an accident.
Yeah I read that also, it really does not make sense. Why have a adjuster ring if they don't want you to adjust it. Preload is not the same for a 150lbs rider to a 250lbs rider. To get the best handling and ride settings, you need to adjust for the proper sag, which is done by adjusting the preload. I did take some preload out and I have no issues with handling, and the ride is spot on for me. Check out this video, it doesn't explain why, but this dude knows how to setting suspensions.... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Iyr9U5dZzyc.htmlsi=FqUUYupWNREXX_8t
The KTM 890r... yeah that's a cool bike, but I wanted to experience the Triple engine. My skill level requires the IMU, it makes me a better rider than I am. If I want the KTM experience I think I will try the 1290 gt... fast but comfy.
Yep TFT is the same terrible one fitted to the previous model. The one before that was pretty good though. I thought they would have changed it to the one on the speed triple on the new model as no one liked these clocks on the last model
I got a 23 street triple rs the preface lift, same dash. It’s trash. Shift by feel. You can change the color of the bars before it nears redline and it goes to red. I have mine set to blue. I tried view tray 4 for the first 500miles cause it seemed more like a gauge at least then the other view trays but literally makes half the screen useless info. I’ve left it in view tray 1 for the last 3000miles, I’ve tried the others but it’s just tray one but smaller and smaller. Hey nothins perfect but the bike is too great to get hung up on something so minute
As a road circuit track rider or mountain road rider, you don’t look at the dash much. I focus more on lines, braking and cornering. I might check the dash for speed or gear indicator but I go mostly by feel. For drag racing and straight line riders the dash may be more important to hit your shift points.
I do agree, but if you are on a track with a long straight after you come out of a turn... wouldn't you want to get the most out of the engine for better lap times. I just know they have the software or firmware to do it... they did a great job on the Speed Triple. Having said that... I know most riders with talent might night care.
@@Yo-Ken If you're looking at your dash while at the track it's likely the first time you've been there and you're just trying to get your gear selection dialed. Two sessions later you're not looking at it. And at my first track day with my new RS the large, numeric tach at the top of the screen worked perfectly. Anyone serious about lap times is going to use a transponder, a built in lap timer is a novelty for street squids timing their run on The Dragon. I bought my RS based on math, there simply isn't anything else available at this price that's this good right now if you plan to take it to the track. In 45 minutes I can have clip-ons installed for a trackday, run with fully prepped track bikes in the advanced group, and then have it back to stock for a comfortable commute the next day.
@@jasonbishop5408 Your are spot on with everything you said, but I have no interest in tracking the triple. I bought the bike because I wanted a light bike with a good power to weight ratio. I'm a drag racer (cars that is), and a tach is critical for the best performance. Like i said, most talented riders probably don't care what the dash looks like... my skill is no where near yours. I want to to rip the throttle on a straightaway to its peak power... that's how I get my fun riding. The price point of the triple made me give it a shot, so far it has not disappointed me.
@@Yo-Ken Nothing you described above for your intended use with this motorcycle even requires a tach. But of course vloggers need something to complain about. 🙄
It’s makes perfect sense now!! Yo Ken is an short form of Yo Karen??🤣🤣😜😜😜🤣🤣😜 Off course I’m joking but all good and valid points. But I had to ask 🤣🤣 Yeah some stuff on any given bike are so retarded it doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. Like my Road King Special has a wire plugged or ready to be used for a rear cylinder cooling fan!!! Why F’ing Harley???? Anywho great video my friend. I’d prefer a little bit more sound out of the bike but that’s just me. And again great vid boss!!
Here you go.. every one send something like this: To anyone at Triumph who cares what your customers think and hopefully to someone who can make a difference. I will not be the first to contact you about the 1% of this wonderful bike that isn't so wonderful - The Dashboard screens, they're embarrassing. I am now on my second Street Triple 765 (RS this time) 2023, but it may very well be the last bike I ever own (age and money and all that). It's the Carnival Red and even after 10 months I still get butterflies just knowing she's there waiting for me to ride. But the the 4 dash layouts are pretty much universally despised by riders, a strong word for sure, but I suspect that when the rest of the bike is so awesome, to have to look down at any of the available screens is a constant dissapointment whilst riding the machine. So whilst it's only 1% of the bike that is a fail in form and function, it 'feels' so much more as that's a key interaction with the bike. And yes it is both a Form and function failure, whether it's the stupidly tiny fonts throughout, the 'I have no idea what revs I'm in layout' ... Mirrored TWICE!!!!!, the vast amounts of unused space, the 'the Total Miles is hidden somewhere' and so on, there is not a single 'saving grace' about the current layouts. Why, in fact how on earth did even one of the layouts get approved, never mind four of the same similarly designed abominations. Was it a case of nepotism? YTS? care in the community? under 5's pre-school competition. Seriously they are all that bad, and I am fairly sure many at Triumph will already be well aware of the general feeling and the fact that Triumph does nothing about it is awful. So here's a thought, if you have to keep these childish, unreadable, 4 dash layouts, then find do so, but please let the adult motorcyclists produce a couple and give us the update. And if you can't be bothered to put much effort into keeping your customers happy, then simply look at Kawasaki, Honda... in fact almost any other similiarly style dash and plagiarise their layouts. And before you reply with 'most customers seem to like', just spend 30 minutes googling or youtubing this topic. I know nothing will be done, given some of the more influential feedback you've already had that I am aware of, but at least now I can say 'I tried', which is more than the Triumph Screen Design department did.
I have a 2019 Street Triple RS, bought in Feb 2020, it was the last unit the dealer had right before the 2020 refresh with LED headlights. I was looking for the 2020 silver one, but chose the 2019 - partly because it was available with a good discount, but also because of the 2020's dash having these same trashy UI themes as your 2024. Ergonomically that tachometer is illegible to read at a glance. It looks like somebody at Triumph forgot lock their computer and their 6 year old decided to edit the UI themes. That Triumph repeated the same themes in the 2024 model is a mistake beyond silly, since it's simply a firmware update and even if the 2020-2023 and 2024 models have additional functionality, the UI can still be largely reused from the 2017-2019 gen1 765RS.
Totally agree with everything you said. Its beyond me how anyone in Triumph thinks that its useful in anyway. It belongs on a computer game. I like Triumph bikes, but there customer service along with there lack of concern from their customers complaints has me re-thinking if I will buy another Triumph. I know they know we are not happy, all large corporations monitor social media. Its been a complaint for over 3 years, you would think they would have done something. My dealer experience when purchasing was awful. When I contacted Triumph they said they have no control on how there dealers customers... WTF? They were not the least bit interested with my concerns or issues. Its dam shame, its such a good bike, but it looks like they don't give a shit what we think.
You need to find a header from a 2019-22. The new Street Triples are welded one piece systems. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-i2J1Ve-zlyM.html
I don't agree with the TFT at all, I love the features, the ergonomics and the interface. It does exactly what it needs to do; I'm definitely not looking for a shift light at higher speeds. Think you are being quite picky there 😂
Yes I am... I ride the bike hard and want to see where the rpm's are. That's why I ask for everyone opinion... I'm I asking to much? I still love the bike.
I understand the dash is not the best. But i barely look at it and when i do in looking at the MPH. I go by sound with the revs. I know what a rev limiter sounds like now 😂
For normal cruising and hitting the twisties the tach is not needed, bur when I'm roll racing or just want to ring it out... its a must. But yeah, I here... I have come to know the rev limiter well :)
I know, but I wanted the better suspension and the ability to add cruise control.... oh and the color. I do like the R dash better, but I don' think that is an option.
I am curious about the bar ends..... Whas it only taking the original caps off and mounting the bar end weights? I consider mounting weights because of the Vibrations..... Do you have a link of yours? The indicators in Europe are LED. I have replaced them with the running lights, looks really great.
@Yo-Ken The vibes are only an issue for mirrors at certain speeds (checking for coppers etc), but I did find the Evotech ones helped mitigate the issue a little (without needing 'wide load' sign on the rear)
Unfortunately I don't think you can buy them. You get it when you buy a Triumph motorcycle. In my case the dealer where I bought the Triple did not give me any of these items. When you buy a Triumph, you get a back pack, key change, folder, hat and T-shirt. The last 2 Triumph's that I purchased from another dealer came with all these items. Pretty classy thing to do from Triumph. I will contact Triumph and let them know about the poor dealer experience I had. If I am able to get another key change I would be glad to send it to you.
This TFT is shit. I agree. Aprilia Rider, and used to at least ok tfts but haven tried the rs I loved it a lot. Apart from the tft. That's just horrible to read.
The screen is an absolute disaster. Coming from a Ninja 1000SX that is possibly the best form/function on the market, the 765 is awful. Many reviewers agree, but it's frequently just a throwaway comment. The salesman told me that Triumph are doubling down on updating the display despite the prolific number of complaints. Your comparison to an 'Arcade game' is pretty good. I think the issue is that every option is the same stupid layout and a complete waste of available screen. Why not provide 4 very different layouts. Given here in the UK at least, 80% of its owners need reading glasses, only amplifies the ridiculous fonts and layouts.
@Yo-Ken This video prompted me to write to Triumph ... was a little 'pissy' but there is no excuse for this level of incompetence. I'll update you if they ever reply...
I definitely don't think the TFT is a major fail. It looks great in my opinion and you can read it easily. It would have been nice if there were some other more racey features like to show lean angle, accelerate or brake force. But for the average person that's getting this bike, they are not going to closely touch it's capability or everything it has to offer. I'm also saying this as a person who is picking one up in March.
The only issue I have with the dash is the tach, it's not readable at a quick glance. The update the almost everything on the Triple and dont give it a proper tach. Great bike even with they one flaw.
You are overreacting it's called a street triple, not a race triple. The fact that they give us multiple race features is the benefit of the brand. Yes, the turn signals are ugly as he'll, but that is the us DOT required signals not triumph doing.
Yeah... I might be at that, but the tach in my F150 is more readable and its far from a race truck:). I still think Triumph could make a led for all. Look at the Honda CB1000R, their led's don't look bad and its for all markets... heck my Speedmaster and Scrambler had cool led's.
Um no in the us in alot of states you do not need turn signals. Cf moto comes with led signals, ducati comes with them, aprilia comes with them, mv agusta comes with them and they also come with the drl function. Triumph is cheaping out in the american market.
When you overpay for a bike by $5K, call it a fail and wished you would’ve listened to the hype and bought the benchmark MT-09, this is the video you make. Triumph always playing catch up to MT-09’s complete package, Japanese build quality (not cheap Thailand built crap), bang for buck, and arm stretching torque.
