What? No long range B-52 strike? No Rapid Dragon? More Boom please. Of course GR has to worry about melting the server, but it would be nice to see. Like an A-10 rolling into a gun run on an AT-AT
B-52 doesn't have that Jerry Bruckheimer energy 😅. A-10s would need a ground base and they'd take a very long time to get on target. Still have the AI problem as well.
We think alike. ;-) I was also thinking Rapid Dragon, but since it drops LORASMs which dive to the deck they would just impact the shield and would be useless. I don't know if the DCS Rapid Dragon can be outfitted with regular bombs (or bunker busters, a few 10,000lb Earthquake bombs would be sweet!) or not, but it would be a great non-nuclear option if the LORASMs could be switched out.
Grim Reapers: "Today we"ll be doing a 1 v 50 dogfight. It looks like 49 of them have bugged and crashed into the ground but no matter. The fight must go on."
damn aliens . . . nuke-um, long-range bombers, rods from the gods, rail guns, hell anything and everything all at once, just get rid of them damn aliens would ya.
Idea: instead of conventional bombs, try putting RN-24 or RN-28 nukes on those F/A-18s; they'd do a lot more damage per hit and allow you to get fewer bombers out in a faster amount of time. If modding the Super Hornet to carry nukes doesn't work, MiG-21s (which carry those munitions in the core game) can fly off of Kuznetsov or QE2 using RATO and parachute.
I think the issue is hardware. Those nukes often crash/freeze the game when a lot of things got destroyed at once. Also, nuke in DCS, in terms of visual, is very boring.
@@s87343jim Could they edit/make a traditional bomb that simply did more damage to the target but didn't have a huge blast radius? Like a Mk84 or whatever that had an oversized payload/effect?
In this scenario couldn't the Russians just use nuclear tipped khinzal hypersonic missile? Or could the US or UK use some form of nuclear tipped cruise missile in top-attack drop down mode. Or the Russians using khinzal hypersonic missile dropping down on top without nuclear warhead but just a lot of them. And I'm sure the Chinese could use anti-ship ballistic missiles in huge numbers, DF-somethingorother can't remember the numbers
@@exidy-yt that's why I also mentioned a large number of conventional khinzals or anti-ship ballistic missiles. Could also do a scenario of escorting/protecting plane or ship that will launch nukes.
What if you added a group of bombers like b-1’s or b-2’s that needed to be escorted by humans? I think that could possibly be more effective and would be interesting to see.
Stealth Squadron's and Futuristic Planes VS Star Destroyer Fleet! Stealth Squadron's Center Front Formation-- Flying in Two Formations of Five-- Ten F-22 Raptors! Few miles behind-- Five F-117's! Flying a few miles behind-- Four B-2 Spirits in formations of Two! Few miles behind in the back One B-21 Raider! Right Flank-- Ten ST-21's! Few miles behind-- Five F-16V Block 72's with Optical Camo and Ten F-15STOL/MTD's(I kno Fox2's;)! At a higher altitude few miles behind-- Four YF-12A's! Flying underneath-- Two B-1R's and Five F-15EX's! Few miles behind-- New Hypersonic "UFO'"! Plus The Millennium Falcon with Two Y-Wing's and Two X-Wing's! Left Flank-- Ten F-35's! Few miles behind-- Ten F-117's! In the back-- Four B-2 Spirits! Please obviously include a couple AWACS Star Destroyer Fleet-- LOTS of Tie-Fighters, Good amount of Tie-Interceptors, Eight Tie-Hunters, and Four Corvette Raiders!! Corvettes start airborne!!👍👍
Agree. It should look like a WW2 carpet bombing but with modern bombers. There's plenty airstrips near pacific for long range bombers. Also, I think alien planes should be more nimble to compensate for the lack of missile.
This was a very fun mission, moreso then I thought it would be. To make it more winnable, as well as just more anti-ground naval strikes, why not add a couple B-52, B-1 or B-2 flights from Guam to complement the naval armada? Drop the BIG boom-boom! I was also thinking Rapid Dragon, but I just remembered they carry LORASMs which dive to the deck and would be useless here. I'd like to see this rematch.
Its LRASM (stands for Long Range Anti-ship Missile) AGM-158C and The Rapid Dragon Bomb deploys AGM-158 JASSM (Joint Air to Surface Standoff Missile;) If you think The JASSM and LRASM are cool check out The AGM-129A-- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aA-uDChfo50.html
try using ship launched or land launched ballistic missiles or bombs that dive in from above, or do it Doolittle style and launch bombers of carriers(AC-130 with MOABs)
Cap, if you remember what you had to do with the Zeros in the Pearl Harbor series with every amount of set time a set of Zeros would spawn in, it might work just a little bit better with the Super Bogs in that the clogging issue wouldn't affect the bombing times. All that would be left to have troubles with would be the ai choosing not to drop their bombs. However if you want to keep the realism with them taking off, good luck.
Hey Cap, couple of suggestions but they're a bit of ballache: Could you not have the CV's be included for recovery's only and have the flights spawn in on timers/triggers etc. That'd remove the chance of them getting gummed up all together (at least in a spot where it actually matters). And I really do like the idea of a flight of 100+ hoomans but that would require coordinating that many ppl and thats more of a ballache then programming all the triggers for the AI lol. Also just to get in the quotes: "Keep my planets name, out ya mouth!" oops, wrong quote.
Well since the Russians are using mig29s so the Indian carrier is roughly equivalent to the Russian one as both of them have migs and Mach3 antiship missiles
As much as independence Day was an all-time masterpiece of sci-fi ubercheese, during the big air battles I just had a voice in the back of my mind shouting "You're seriously trying to shoot down a ten-mile wide space ship with AMRAAMs???"
Hey cap what if you did a series with the US and China strike group working together against many other countries and try to see what it would take to destroy them?
I don't think there's enough navy in the world to match Us/China together. They have a combine fleet of over 120 destroyers. Thats more large vessels than the entire world combine. Let alone the 13 us supercarriers and 100+ chinese frigates and corvette.
Actually, given the modernized US/UK vs Russia/China battle…that’d be pretty interesting to see, given that the US and China were the most effective… _effective to the point that UK and Russia were literally expendable…_
@@flashgordon6670 Do try to keep in mind the limitations they have to work with inside the DCS engine, as well as the processing limitations of their multiplayer server, bro. Especially as the multithreading code dosen't work atm. For that matter, throwing nuclear-tipped ICBMs and watching the mothership die in 20 seconds would take away all the fun.
I've read some comments and many others suggested what I'm about to suggest. Have some big bombers (B-1s, B-2, B-52s, Tu-95s, Avro Vulcans, whatever the Chinese have) spawn in the air at intervals to get around the problem of gummed up carriers and put more bombs on target. For roleplaying you could say they took off from Guam or somewhere in Russia/China.
OK. Suggestion for attacking the bugs. Reduce the flights from a 4 ship to a 2 ship. It looked like the third and fourth guys were the ones to refuse to bomb. Primary and secondary seemed to drop pretty consistently.
PLEASE! Stealth Squadron's and Futuristic Planes VS Star Destroyer Fleet! Stealth Squadron's Center Front Formation-- Flying in Two Formations of Five-- Ten F-22 Raptors! Few miles behind-- Five F-117's! Flying a few miles behind-- Four B-2 Spirits in formations of Two! Few miles behind in the back One B-21 Raider! Right Flank-- Ten ST-21's! Few miles behind-- Five F-16V Block 72's with Optical Camo and Ten F-15STOL/MTD's(I kno Fox2's;)! At a higher altitude few miles behind-- Four YF-12A's! Flying underneath-- Two B-1R's and Five F-15EX's! Few miles behind-- New Hypersonic "UFO'"! Plus The Millennium Falcon with Two Y-Wing's and Two X-Wing's! Left Flank-- Ten F-35's! Few miles behind-- Ten F-117's! In the back-- Four B-2 Spirits! Please obviously include a couple AWACS Star Destroyer Fleet-- LOTS of Tie-Fighters, Good amount of Tie-Interceptors, Eight Tie-Hunters, and Four Corvette Raiders!! Corvettes start airborne!!🙏
You should do a battle between a modern Chinese VS Russian carrier group. The Russian can have the Kunetzov and the Kirov. Over a hundred year ago, Russia forced China to give up its northeast territory, called outer Manchuria which includes Vladivostok. The Chinese are itching to get it back and will do so when Russia is weakened by its current adventure. It'll a good fight.
China cant afford to attack Russia rn. If they do so, they lose the only Real ally with a decent military. And this would Ironically make Russia aligned with the West, and give the large land Border that the west needs to defeat China.
In a real world scenario, the Chinese fighters would look a lot more like FA alien fighters and someone on the mothership would be asking questions about online security.
I don't know if this is posable in game or not. But if there is enough time for the carrier groups to get to gather then we could send some big bombers from land bases. BTW, my father's 1977 3/4-ton Chevy Scottsdale has over 300k miles on it. He used it as a tow truck for years and hauled a camper shell made for a 1- & 1/2-ton truck for years more. Yet it fires right up and perrrrs. Nothing beats a Square Body!! ;-}}
Modern nuclear strike / WW2 Carpet bombing. The aliens 👽 have just witnessed WW2 and decided that humanity is too war like and has to go. The attack takes place in the late 40s as it took the aliens several years to reach earth. Just for clarification, I'm proposing 2 separate missions, one involving tactical nukes, the other carpet bombing.
"Bones", no AIM260 and keep an eye on the carrier to stop it from getting blocked. Also,why not try to use other as well as older carrier based aircraft or even better, include other countries with carriers.
The thing is, the only other nation with a Medium/big Aircraft carrier is France. most other nations with carriers have the really small carriers that can only use Harriers or F35s. Some of these nations dont even have a combat airwing for the carriers. The other nations with Carriers are Spain, Italy, and Australia(has no harriers or F35Bs).
How about involving the other carrier groups for a true "world coalition"? The French and Indians could definitely help, even the Italians or Spanish would get more lb on target! RIP your server 😂 although could you reduce the escorts a bit to help with lag? They shouldn't really play much part. Might also be worth considering using the core game 18c as the bomber aircraft and trying to replace more ai bombers with human. A nice easy bombing mission like this in a core game plane would be great to get more members involved. I know I would!
Cap, your content is amazing, I hope you and your team always has success, happiness, and thrive in the future. I have one request however, could you do something with star wars, again? I know you just did another fictional situation, but that was one of the funniest and engaging videos that I still enjoy today. So it would be nice to see something like what starships can fly through SPAA, or maybe even what ground units can destroy an AT-AT. Orrrr even what would the U.S. do if the Empire was making a Death Star esque thing flying in a nearby sea, and the AIs have to support the Humans who need to shoot the Death Star in a specific area. (Kinda like the movie). But anything Star Wars would be nice, if you can get he damage model working. Have a great day!
Using the distance, I'd go with all carrier air to air / escort support + bomber duties Plus B1full compliment as main payload senders. No idea if that would be on the table if the invasion was real? # I'm no expert, I just like seeing baddies explode 😂
I agree. Use a light carrier and the rest of the force in strictly air to air mode. Then use the Ford class carrier with the USAF B-1's assisting in bombing the starship like 10 mins after the air to air battle has started. Crucially it'll make it more obvious when the carrier is not launching bombers.
39:12 Come on Cap! What kind of nerd are you? It's not gold, it's gold-pressed lautinum that is used in space! Has no one taught you the Rules of Acquisition yet??
How about a flight of bombers rolling in e.g B-1B's with freefall bombs at around the 10 minute mark... or even TU-22 or TU-60's... failing that you need more air dropped firepower which means losing a squadron of Fighters to bombers...
Bring in the Air Forces? Some B-1's, B-2's, B-21's, B-52's, TU-144's or what the heck the Russians have for Bombers? Just a thought. Take it or leave it.
Give yourselves an extra 15 min and use faster bombers. Set timer for for jets to spawn in every few minutes. You can't fix the damage model for the island? I know nothing, I've never played DCS. lol
Why is the giant ship not shooting back? No shields, no AA. "actually..." If ET really wanted to waste humanity, they'd just lob asteroids from orbit, not bother coming into human's range.
Remove the support ships and give the US and UK more than one carrier and assign each extra carrier to solely bombers. Bring in each nations Air Force with heavier bombers too.
High altitude Arc Light ? or a few 20,000 pound GBU-43/B MOABs .The U.S. Air Force has proposed new weapons pylons for the wings of B-52 bombers, allowing them to carry up to 20,000 pounds of ordnance on each pylon. This would enable the B-52 to carry the GBU-43 . There’s also the larger 30,000 pound GBU-57. B2 can carry the MOAB as well.Correction B-2s could each carry a pair of MOPs
Japanese pearl harbor fleet vs ET aliens. The one thing memorable from this channel's IJN is the swarm of fighters. So quantity over quality, how would they do against star destroyers with fully functional AA?
What about the following 1. USA - 2 to 3 carrier battle groups, including the use of Subs to launch nukes 2. England - both carrier groups 3. Russia - same ships, but add subs 4. China - same ships, but add subs 5. France - Well ... maybe not
The answer is a resounding no, but this is always fun to watch lol. Those ships are actually called City Destroyers & we now have an idea of how much firepower it takes to breach the shields by brute force. There is an excerpt regarding cold fusion based bombs that would sterilize like half of the continental United States & the shields being able to withstand that firepower. On the more extreme end, the Harvester was able to ram the Moon & continue unimpeded. Using these examples, you would need like Death Star level firepower just to crack the Harvester's shields.
if the battle took place near an island you could have the bombers (or some of the planes ) take off from land to try and help with the carrier jamming (or send in some b1s or c130 moabs) i mean end of the world calls for all hands on deck
Stealth Squadron's and Futuristic Planes VS Star Destroyer Fleet! Stealth Squadron's Center Front Formation-- Flying in Two Formations of Five-- Ten F-22 Raptors! Few miles behind-- Five F-117's! Flying a few miles behind-- Four B-2 Spirits in formations of Two! Few miles behind in the back One B-21 Raider! Right Flank-- Ten ST-21's! Few miles behind-- Five F-16V Block 72's with Optical Camo and Ten F-15STOL/MTD's(I kno Fox2's;)! At a higher altitude few miles behind-- Four YF-12A's! Flying underneath-- Two B-1R's and Five F-15EX's! Few miles behind-- New Hypersonic "UFO'"! Plus The Millennium Falcon with Two Y-Wing's and Two X-Wing's! Left Flank-- Ten F-35's! Few miles behind-- Ten F-117's! In the back-- Four B-2 Spirits! Please obviously include a couple AWACS Star Destroyer Fleet-- LOTS of Tie-Fighters, Good amount of Tie-Interceptors, Eight Tie-Hunters, and Four Corvette Raiders!! Corvettes start airborne!!👍👍
Could do a rematch adding more ships... French carrier group, add more of the US carrier groups because they obviously have a a few nimitz carriers and a Gerald (pretty sure they have a 2nd being complete soon) could also have B1, B2, B21, B52, A10, ect taking off from a nearby ground airbase. though my main thought is how would the server handle it. still a great vid tho!
Oh yeah and could have the Chinese with H-20s and Russians with PAK-DAs... also for some really odd reason i wanna see carriers like the USS America in a vid not to sure how they could be used for this other than launching only Murder F35s
Just add the 25% of bomb tonnage that the AI failed to drop, and you should be able to calculate the amount of damage that would have been inflicted. Alternatively, just get more real people in to replace the AI altogether.
