Thanks for a thorough, systematic test. One-stop shopping for education on how different loads pattern, how individual guns vary, choke influences, and knockdown power.
Had a flash back when you said the little gun hit your cheek !! Shot a slug from my wife’s youth model and almost broke my nose, had me tearing up like a baby🙏🔫🇺🇸
Great job! Thank you very much for all the great info. One suggestion, you could have saved 3 rounds of ammo by tucking the steel behind the paper target when doing the pattern testing. That TSS aint cheap!
Thanks a lot for comparing the TSS to the long beard I just bought my wife the 20 gauge Stoeger M 3020 and I bought a long beard choke for it haven’t shot it or the factory choke yet so this helped me out big time thank you.
I love my 3020, light and plenty of power. I shoot a Tight Was choke and Federal 3RD Degree loads 5-6-7 shot. Also use a Tru Glow Gobble Stop Dot scope.
This was a great vlog. I haven't seen many if any that compared shot with choke, at two different yardages. just So you all know... Stoger is owned by Beretta...who also also owns Beretta USA (obviously), Benelli, Franchi, SAKO, Tikka, Uberti, and the Burris Optics company. Stogers' Bolt (Inertia Drive; I Drive) is the same that Benelli uses. My Daughter has the Stoger 3020 What I truly enjoyed; knowing you will be and have been hunting with your daughter. 2021 my daughters first full hunting season, archery, and firearms. Dads, Hunt with your daughters NOT for them... You want to see them grow up to be strong women; don't rely on their schools... With a Christ centered family...God will help fathers guided their daughters....it is God who will make our Daughter's strong...Hunting teaches them independents and how to survive. they will only learn this from Hunting families.. But, dad plays the pivotal roll...
very detailed video. i reload my own tss. for 20 gauge and #9 is all i use. the stoger factory choke is really a great choke for the tss. just use it. save some money. all you will get with any other choke is tighter pattern, if your going past 40 yards with the stoger like out to 60 try the indian creek 555. but at 20 itsa slug hole. the only choke i use on public land for high pressured birds. the best choke for my testing was the jebs headhunter 560. pretty much covers close and long range hang ups. i highly recommend the jebs 560 or 565. my choice is 560. thanks
Great shooting. Only thing I do differently is that I spray the inside of the barrel with Carburetor cleaner and run a bore snake through the barrel. It will make a difference with a clean barrel. Have a good one and May God bless
Great video! I’ve only used long beard shells in my wife’s 20ga while patterning it for her, and it shoots the same. To the left. Pull out my shotgun and shoot other loads then the long beard, and they are dead on.
Makes me wonder if they loaded 20ga XR at the normal 1150-1200fps muzzle velocity if the pellets would have blown through the steel. The pellets seemed to be right on the edge of going through, even a small increase in initial velocity could have made the difference. That said, I still think 40 yards it would break the neck and skull plate. That steel is harder on lead than turkey neck/skull. Not sure what ammo companies infatuation is with loading #5 lead in 20ga. I think for lead loads, a shell full of #6 lead would 100% of the time pattern better and utilize the limited capacity of a 20ga shell far better. Prior to TSS it would easily have been the go to if it were loaded in it.
That was interesting. I went with a .575 Carlson extended for my long barrel in my over/under. Was going to use LBXR #6, but scored some Federal TAX #7's for a great price. Still need to pattern what choke I'll use with the LBXR 6'S in the short range barrel. Thanks for sharing 👍
Winchester Longbeard XR is a great round but to compete with the TSS#9, Winchester needs to step up with a tungsten round like Federal, maybe playing around with it they could replace their 5 and 6 shot with 7and 9 shot tungsten but maybe they believe it would be entirely to costly for the shooter. when I was young shooting shotgun 1.75 to 2.25 per box of 25 was costly now box of 10 upwards of 60.00 I simply refuse to pay that but during Turkey season I do shoot Heavy shot blend and/or longbeard XR for way I hunt 5yd to 25 yd fields loads are really good enough with the right chokes. anyway that's what I proven to myself in last half century of turkey hunting, don't get me wrong I to get sucked into all the great patterns with chokes and great ammo.
I shoot the Longbeard 3" #5's. They are wicked on paper and turkeys. Only thing I ever shot that was better was Winchester Extended Range that was a tungsten load . Shame it was discontinued!!!
I reckon it's good to know what's going on at 20yds but I know you know at 20yds a low brass 7.5 thru a tight full choke will grind a gobblers head right off I just hate a to
Wonder why u didn’t do the Code black .565 with the tss 7 at 40 yrds spread test. If u did & I missed it, let me know at what time it is at on the video
Thank you for doing this! I know this was a costly test considering! Man gotta tell you, I was worried the sled was going to fall off your bench towards the end of the video! I have a 12g sx3 and its my favorite shotgun I have ever owned! Just curious, have you ever tried hevi shot magnum blend out of either if your 20 gauges?
I switched to a 20 gauge a few years ago and have killed a pile of birds with it...with longbeard xrs and an Indian creek choke it's a 50 yard gun all day.
The $150.00 worth of ammo was them dang tss shells.i recently went to my local ammo store looking for some "turkey" loads.i asked the guy what he had.he said i got these federal tss rounds.he said they are 5 to a box.i said how much he said $54.99😂😂.im not joking.i said hell nooo!!!!! What in the hell ever happened to regular long brass #4's & 6's.they took many & many of game my whole life.now days they put fancy logos & hype things up & people actully buy that stuff.its sad man.its real sad.america is going down hill in a hurry.i miss tbe good ol days.
@@ninjagodzilla6402 amen brother I paid $49.99 for a box of 5 tss loads a few weeks back don’t get me wrong they a fine shell but damn nation that’s expensive & I really luv me sum ole school lead loads (12 or 20) but impossible to find here in west Tn this year...happy hunt’n....
@@jayplay3412 you as well my friend.im in arkansas & cant find any ammo hardly.this crap has to stop!! I mean its out of controll.us good ol boys need to get togather some how some way & tell them we aint gonna alow this shit.i have an 8 tr old son im trying to teach to hunt & shoot & hell if i wouldnt have stocked up on certain things years augo i would not be able to teach him.im very irritated about this situation.i guess all we can do for now is pray.stay safe out there buddy!
Check your barrel. the last time I had an issue like that, the barrel had some kind of burrs in it up where the the choke seats. I guess it was catching the wad on the way out. You can knock most of them out with a barrel hone/brush. Also, check the breach end of the choke tube for any deformations.
Lead will kill that turkey out to 50 yards. You're shooting through a rubber head with neck bone and skull. Anything past 50 I don't recommend Lead shot if you're that type of guy who takes long range turkey shots.
