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No way, don't do. I went that route, "Oh I'll be okay with just one." Regretted it big-time. Don't throw away the wonderful, free, energetic life you've built!
This seems to be the general consensus. It so easy to convince yourself that you’ll be different and break the trend. You don’t hear many people saying they’re a great moderator now.
In 2017 I took a 180 day break from alcohol thinking I was giving my body a break and addressing the issue of adopting a drink in moderation mindset. After 6 months, I had really missed drinking and had my first cold beer on an empty stomach that felt GREAT ..Then in the next 3 weeks, I often had drinks but kept telling myself I was going to limit my drinks , which I did for about three weeks..Then the 4th weeks rolls around, big celebration , it is the weekend, the band is playing , then after the third drink which was supposed to be the last for the night due to the moderation rule came the tequila shots then hell broke lose and found myself puking my guts out in my bathroom at 3 am in the morning...Alcohol is a drug and it destroys the brain slowly , moderation in alcohol is an illusion because alcohol itself is an illusion. Not matter how long anyone has not had any alcohol , the moment they start , sooner or later, the old patters are gonna show up and they are gonna end up at the exact same pit they they had once or twice fallen into ... Now in 2024, I have gone about 8 months without any drinks and never going back ..
Thank you so much for sharing, it's these kind of real life detailed experiences that help people make more informed decisions. That was all part of your journey and helped you get to the point where you thought f**k you alcohol and stopped for good.
No, never again. Done for life. Discipline is key. Not giving into your mind chatter & emotions. Just do what you need to do. I swim, travel, research, read, do weight, focus on learning new skills, meditate and more. No more bars, no more drinking mates, no more out of control. No more.
16 days sober here. I’ve done the out patient stuff but in reality it’s your choice to change. Constant gym, walks, gaming, family, looking to go back to school, basketball. Key is to fill those voids
Just for the sake of discussion, what happens when you get a call at 3:18am and learn that a parent, sibling, spouse, or child has died? Or you've lost your job, or been dumped in a relationship, or your house burns to the ground? All the swimming, traveling, and weights in the world will not help, unless you've been developing your spiritual condition. None of us knows what's coming in the next fifteen minutes. True sobriety is being ok in the midst of chaos, or when there is absolutely nothing going on. You can't stay busy every second of every day. It's unsustainable!
I quit for years, decided to have "just one" when lockdown hit. Turned into a 4 year relapse that cost me 3 jobs, hospitalised 3 times for detox and only just managed to quit again. There is no such thing as moderation, it is a lie.
I had a different experience during covid. Actually, right before the pandemic hit, I was on my final months to death from alcohol. I was already as dead as one could be. Not eating for weeks. Lost my job. Living in a cheap motel room. Gallon of hard alcohol every day. Random strangers rummaging through. Then I was listening to the news right when the covid story was hitting and something I don't know what clicked and I called a detox center the next day. Fortunately they were still taking patients. Long story short I did detox then a 1 year in patient stay. Although I did get sober I had two relapses after. The relapses are extremely dangerous because we've given our bodies and minds a chance to heal but because of the insidious nature of the disease, it stays ruminating in our minds even sober. So basically just one sip can set off a very dangerous reaction. So bless you for sharing and getting back your sobriety. I know it's hard. I'm now sober 3 years which is my longest but I know everyday I'm one or two bad things happening away from a real problem. Been going through some stuff these past weeks and it's been a challenge big time. It's why I've been going through looking at videos and reading comments like yours. Good story. Peace to you and praying from here.
Thanks for sharing. I'm at the 7 month mark and yes I have been having cravings re surface and the calmer mind I acquired after quitting has become noisy. The craving for me really is an "Easy Button" to disconnect and chill. Alcohol and Weed was that button. You are clearly much younger than me. My years of daily consumption of both Booze and Weed lasted more than 25. The best part of my day is the morning as I feel great, energetic, and thankful for making it through the day before without consuming. The Toughest part is the evening as I am tired and sometimes bored, but my energy is too low to do anything about it. Having a daily purpose and working out really helps. Working out provides me with physical evidence that I am getting better and stronger. My job can provide me with purpose and energize me, however lately it has been routine with lack of progress. This might hold a clue into why my mind is restless again. Do yourself a big favor and really keep pushing to stay sober. I wish I really cared and worked towards sobriety when I was your age. The withdrawals after 25 years plus were tough. Months to be specific. Also I was a very functioning alcoholic and pot head. I kept my life in order, career, finances, etc. My family and friends always knew I drank too much, but said I never seemed drunk, and somehow had my stuff together. Just imagine how much more I could have done with my life if I got sober at your age. Keep it up and best of luck.
"That is why most people have a drink, after a hard day, after a hard week". The truth is, for chronic drinkers, it doesn't matter if their day has been "hard", "easy", "hot", "cold", "sunny", "cloudy, "windy", "calm", or any day that ends in "Y"! Chronic drinkers, drink to change what they are feeling, even if it's good! Especially if it's good,. We want good to be better! Figuring out"why" we drink isn't really important. What IS important, is changing our behavior on a daily basis, until the mind can catch up.
Been Sober 4 years now and the thing never focuses in my mind and is of insignifficience. So I have found I am free minded, liberated,Calm, self controlled and in this moment. I see the world differently now and I pick my friends wisely. It is a fantastic feeling.
I know you mean well Alvin, but when it comes to chronic alcoholism, "You got this" is the most delusional, and disingenuous nonsense that can be uttered. Most people newly dry, and some with years of "not drinking" have no clue what they're up against. Peace!
@@dg9015 any alcoholic that tells you they don't is lying to you. I have seen many at the V.A liver word that was begging for one last drink right before they died it is a lifelong thing man. just because you gave it up don't mean you don't want it. trust me. it will be there till the day you die. never make the mistake of underestimating it.
I don't drink 1-2 drinks, that just makes me feel lousy and wanting more. If I drink it's to get drunk which is a problem and why I have to stay away. It will never be moderate for me.
It will stay for life: I quit for 3.5 years 2017-2020, started again during Covid. Will quit again soon, but it will always be there. Quitting smoking was an absolute piece of cake compared to quitting drinking.
man as soon as you talked about that little voice in your head and your mind over analyzing it made me think of Michael Singer Lectures I've listened to.
240 days with zero problems quitting and l find that even though l know l wont relapse or loose control because l don’t crave a drink that bad but l have no interest in doing some of the things l enjoyed while l drank. I used to love to lay outside and enjoy my surroundings, go on vacation and enjoy floating in the pool or having a romantic dinner in a nice restaurant. My world has lost it’s luster and l feel apathetic about almost everything and everyone and lay around and read and watch TV to pass the day. I don’t drink but nor do l want to but my life is sad.
One way I found to clear the mind is to go on a long walk. I'm talking at least 1 hr. You can listen to a podcast, or just let your mind go crazy and after that walk you will be calm and your mind silent for hours or sometimes a full day. I wake up 1 hr early to take a long walk rain or shine. I focus on my breath and it is almost an active meditation. Drinking 'one drink' will last 20 minutes, and you will have reawaken the monster than wants another and another and another.
Im at nearly 5 months and keep considering it and then think how annoyed i would be if i broke my streak and i really dont want to go back there and let people down. And i love the not feeling hungover
I’ve done a week sober ,last time was 54 days, I keep thinking about drinking but I know I will just end up hungover and feeling terrible again,it’s been one thing after another lately ,but I don’t need a hangover on top of it all ,I hope u don’t get tempted again
@@sober-diary it sure does ,I have back pain now but last Saturday was hungover so in a way that was worse,good luck with not drinking and saying goodbye to hangovers
I’ve been off and on for about a year now. I used to drink all the time. A lot of alcohol. This year I started off 60 days no alcohol. Then one night I decided to drink (just one night). That lasted for 2 months. Now I’m 41 days in without. I can’t just have one or two. I always go back like I’ve never stopped and it wreaks havoc on me. I am 100% happier without it.
Alcohol is a drug Our society talks about ‘alcohol and drug’ abuse and addiction like its (alcohol) is separate in some form .. if you drink alcohol daily, frequently then you’re addicted to a drug so you’re a drug addict. Tell someone who drinks everyday. Even one or two, that they’re a drug addict and frowns etc abound. I’m 58 I used alcohol since early teens till mid forties , stopped for seven years and became a qualified training nut, mostly serious and grumpy… I never realised how one can become almost a social outcast in our alcohol drenched society, after some personal downs I began drinking again for three years with gusto and watched my entire lifestyle fall apart… I’ve had 5 months off here and 2 months off there recently with the hope that I’ll be able to have a couple drinks in company over dinner etc.. but it never works like that for me , so I enjoyed your video it was like listening to myself , 5 weeks free at the mo, but my friend and I were very close to dropping into the bottle store on the way to band practice, but we didn’t, just remember alcohol is a poison and a drug if you don’t mind being a drug addict and can afford it , then go for it, it’s a free choice in our culture, no one’s going to judge you, no one really cares anyway what you do, because everyone is busy with their own Stuff, sobriety is a personal thing and being vigilant isn’t easy at any moment during abstinence… the more you think of alcohol the more you will think of alcohol., think of something else, 😊
Keep going mate. What I've noticed since going sober is that I used to resort to cigarettes and drinks for stress relief. Today, I still find myself procrastinating and avoiding what's causing me stress by wasting time on social media or video games. However, this time I'm aware. This time, I'm not numbing myself to gloss over or have an excuse for it. Now, I'm fully responsible for my actions, and it's on me whether I fix it or not. What I wanted to say is that going sober is not going to magically solve the problems but leads you to eventually face them.
2 years into sobriety i still have cravings sometimes but i know i'll never do it. All i have to do is remind myself of the problems it brings and they 100% outweigh any romanticizing about it. Its just not worth the risk anymore.
@@sober-diary Knowing in my mind it's just not an option for me is easier (not sure if thats the right word) than moderation. I think that would be far more difficult, in the past when i tried to it was on my mind far too much. Also it would always start with "just the odd drink now and again" but old ways always crept up. I feel much safer knowing its not an option if that makes sence?
Well said. I expect moderation isn’t even enjoyable when you always holding back and then it opens up the opportunity for drinking in excess every time you do it. Old ways vs not at all, I choose not all everytime.
almost 5 months here...stay the course...I just focus on the horrible feeling I have after I have only one or two drinks...once that euphoria wears off in the first 25 minutes it is all downhill from there and then the next day or two I am wrecked and I don't see gains in the gym...just feel how great your body feels and you won;t wanna destroy that
@@sober-diary 🙂its so true...if I worked out and i was tired and hungover....i wondered why i never saw changes...now i focus on the muscles instead of how bad my head feels!!
9+ years sober here....sometimes one has to just shut up and sit and just look out into the air. Feelings are feelings, nothing more, nothing less. One does not need to address every single thought that crosses your mind. I don't know what your deal is, i just saw you here- but if your only goal is to quit for a year- you are wasting your time and mine. The first year without alcohol is hard, just like the 8th, 12th and so on. Take the cotton iut of your ears and put it in your mouth. Find a support group and listen to those who have actual sobriety. Guess what, alcohol is a drug, you are an addict. 200+ days.....whatever- When you are done, you're Done. If you're not, drink 'til you are . Grow up.
Been sober a year now. I know i won't go back. However, I have noticed mind chatter and negative self talk coming back in force. Suppose there is always a reminder of things I need to work on and improve, and without alcohol there are no temporary escapes.
See the amount of time and thought whether negative or positive that gets sucked out of life by this relationship we have with alcohol! It's incredible really. Our endless obsessing over it. It's this whole package we need to free ourselves from because whether we are celebrating our sobriety or working out whether to go back to "just the odd one" or blogging about how good we feel without it or whatever it is an indication that we are still in thrall to alcohol and we are still feeding the psychological and cultural obsession with it. Like Donald Trump who doesn't care whether his press is good or bad so long as he's sucking on people's attention he's happy. That's alcohol. See that fact and then its grip slips away because seeing how it works ends our interest in it and it dies a natural death.
That's an interesting perspective and I actually agree with you. I only realised my mental dependence on it when I stopped. The first 3 months it was pretty much all I thought about. This has become less and less as time has gone on and that's a positive trend I'm sure will continue.
I'm on day 75 and a lot of days I just feel lost and bored. I have hobbies and I regularly exercise but nothing replaces that feeling of being buzzed. Life just feels like one big repetition and alcohol would break that up.
I've had this, but then thought how exciting was my day to day before booze? I was probably just looking forward to the weekend / an evening when I could drink and that made the present seem more interesting. I still stand by that alcohol is the best thing to shut off my mind temporarily and then I can't be bored, but it comes back so much worse the next day, the trade off just isn't worth it anymore. Now I can fix why I actually get bored rather than mask it.
I'm a month and a half sober after 23 years of hardcore binge drinking.. It's not easy. Then again, I didn't have a choice. My doctor said I would be dead in 2-5 years if I kept it up the way I was going. Ain't worth it. I'd rather live. Keep on rockin dude!
I had doctors advice even when I lied about the weekly consumption to bring it down :'). Keep it going, the good stuff starts happening in the coming months.
A few years ago when I decided to quit drinking and I was one year without drinking I started meditating almost immediately. In retrospect, it was clearly a substitute for alcohol. Now I'm back to not drinking and I find that I feel like meditating more. I don't really want to meditate often because it feels more like a substitute than something that could broaden my understanding.On the other hand, I guess there are different ways of meditating. Now I've actually taken on the role of observer of my thoughts when my mind just won't stay silent. It's been interesting and somewhat relaxing.At least I find myself dozing off quite often when I meditate.
I like that mentality and from what I understand it's what meditation is about, not trying to stop the thoughts, just observe them and shift focus to present. Thanks for sharing.
Keep it up. Dont get into my position. Doctors "think" I dodged a bullet. Too soon to tell. They told me no more alcohol otherwise try to get on a transplant list! I need my liver more than a drink.
I'm nearly a year sober and I'm so bored. I feel like I'm missing a part of me. I know the alcohol always ended up making me feel like I wanted to die, doing things I'd never normally do and embarrassing myself etc but I miss socialising, I miss feeling close to people, I miss having a laugh. My life feels so grey at the moment and I've been meaning to join the gym (I do work.out but at home) but I just kinda feel like I'd rather risk the madness than deal with this boredom 😖
I feel you. It's actually a challenge I'm facing right now. Let's not kid ourselves and pretend we didn't have fun with alcohol. That fun needs to be replaced and that's what I'm focusing on at the moment. However, the realisation I had was that alcohol was only making shit things feel more fun. Imagine how superhuman you will feel when discover what you genuinely enjoy!
Thank you for replying. Yea I think because I'm generally on bit of a downer at the moment everything feels pretty bleak but if I was drinking at the moment ( which I would always do in excess when I feel these lows) I'd be on an absolute mission to ruin my life... so at least I'm not doing that right now 😆 I just need to get down the gym, maybe join a running club and meet new people with a good mindset, as pretty much everyone I know only finds fun in drinking and I'm feeling pretty lonely at the moment. You do speak sense though and your videos really help me realise things and think about things that I wouldn't necessarily have pieced together myself, so thank you
I did 14 weeks last year due to a health scare with my throat and 12 weeks the year before during covid. Then stupid me got the all clear and decided to have three cans thinking I was in control and that was that hooked again. Started again this week 7 days so far.
@sober-diary well, well, well really, bloody hell I never knew that I thought everyone was different and would experiencechanges at different times.. I'm feeling benefits already, energy, mood changes. My sleep pattern is a bit altered, though waking up early and heavy eyed, which means I'm having deeper sleeps.
go for a run then a bath or a walk then a bath when u have done this u say to u self if a drink i would not feel as good as i do now after this bath or a cicle
Something happens in the mind when you quit alcohol for a good period of time. Or maybe it's in the body or both? I've tried drinking after a year and now into two years and my body will not allow me to drink. It's so hard to describe especially through a RU-vid video. I can tell you my body responds as if I never quit. I have withdrawal symptoms after one day of drinking. I couldn't binge if I wanted to and I don't want to! In AA they say "once a pickle, always a pickle." I would look for fun things to do that replaces alcohol. Alcohol is a tricky b*tch.
i'm 215 days sober and i also think about it more than 3 months ago.i think thats because we have passed the half year mark and we have convinced our mind that we can control it now.i read about it that 6 to 12 months phase is the hardest.
We might well have stopped on the same day! I’d be really interested to read about that if you could share? It’s always helpful to know I’m not alone in the mental battles.
Overthinking got way better just after 2 weeks of stopping friday wine drinking for me, before sometimes i couldn't sleep becouse of intensifing thoughts at bed time.
Hi, I just came across your video and had a wee grin to myself. You are so articulate and I felt if you just keep talking you wijll talk yourself into it. Would you really want to go through the hell of giving up again? Seems to me you are quite a character, have strength and will cope one day at a time. R J
That’s a word I’ve not had used to describe me before but I like it 😅. It’s good to get the thoughts out of my head and this is a great platform to do it on with supportive people.
I was a binge drinker for years with breaks of up to 2 years. I am abstaining successfully with 20 hours plus of exercise a week. Walking, biking, lifting on alternative days. I’m too spent to want to booze it up. Without exercise i would have a void of 2-4 hours in the evening of nothing to do or boring stuff to do that always went by easier and more fun with drinking. Try exercising 3-4 hours a day if you have cravings. Works for me so may work for you?
People think they can “have one or two”. but be honest with yourself. Did you EVER drink one beer just to be “buzzed” and done? Probably not! Most alcoholics including myself love to get drunk! So why lie to yourself about “having control” over your drinking? Once you get rolling then one turns into 10. And remember how bad a hangover is and how nice its been that you haven’t felt a hang over in so long. Check out people who talk about relapsing on youtube and they will tell you. stay strong!
if it's to feel better try adaptogens but rotate them to keep from addiction or having a withdrawal if you run out, they work wonders. Don't trade other addictive behavior or you will have to go through withdrawal with those to stop habits. Water can be addictive and toxic in the wrong amount. Alcohol is called spirits for a reason, it's an addiction with a spiritual hold on a person.
Uughh my body is definitely destroyed from my binge drinking. I did this rotation where I couldn't go more than 2 weeks sometimes 30 days and drank myself till I passed out. The worst. I don't want it anymore.
been sober since 1987 but took about another 8 months to stop because i was 21 and pier presure i had to drink at stag parties and wedings but i knew i had no problem now so i new it would not control my life and as i grew up i relize how fucking silly it is to drink its for old men and stupid wee teenagers that dont know better
Gave up for 6 months. Jesus, drinkers are boring. Started again on my birthday. Friday tea times and Saturday arvo, with the wife. No more midweek 6 pints. Weed is the key!!!! Have a Smoke and then you can't be assed to go out! Simple.😂
@@sober-diary hmm, well it started slowish but before long I was back to my usual 25 standard drinks a day. Tolerance builds so damn quickly.. within a few weeks if you don't deliberately keep usage down - back to old days. Don't do it man. You'll kick yourself and probably won't enjoy it. Good luck
The small group of alcoholics that actually can stay with a limited amount of a drink, ruin it for all the real people that really have drinking problems. I have been doing TM for over 50 years btw, it is like brushing my teeth, I do it in the AM, and PM. Peace
@@sober-diary well they ruin it for the vast majority of that subset of people that should totally abstain from liquor of any sort. The, "i can have one drink" mentalty wotks for a very select few. Thats my two cents, I do have a BA in psycholgy but work with my hands. Peace
Ok, I understand, definitly value your insights. Agree that there are some people that can easily stop and from experience struggle to understand those who find that difficult.
You’re making me fight that deceptive voice! Check out my blog if you want more detailed accounts. Should be on channel page. Thanks so much for subscribing, next update at 240 days, I’ve got a stag do this weekend ha!!
I listend to your Why I Quit video. You are doing and sounding exactly like i was when i drank. I ended up unemployed and unemployable. I was close enough to a parkbench drunk. Yes i had a home, but more often than not i would not make it home. Come to in the gutter literaly or in a watch house. I would have hangovers you dont want to know about, trying to get a drink down and puke it up. There never was fun in alcohol for me. My last drunk i missed 2 days at work and did not make it home. I was married only 3 months and my wife was devistated and angry. I could not blame her. The sizures are bad bews. End stage drinking. If you keep going you may end up with a wet brain. It is a lack of vitamin B12, you are a vegitable in a bed. Mind is totaly gone, No i am not trying to scare you, as fear wont make you stop. Just give you facts. I am happy to help in any way i can. I will sugest AA to you, go to a few meetings, see if it is for you. Take care.
You may enjoy it but you won't enjoy the hangover. I wouldn't. In this current UK heatwave, I can't bear to even look at alcohol. Winter usually makes me want to go back. Somehow, I imagine you won't go back.
I dont know if you believe you are alcoholic or not. I know i am. I cannot drink alcohol. It will get me in trouble and likely die. Toss the year off alcohol away. Just do it for today. That breaks stopping into a small window of time. If i said you have to work 12 hours a day for a year, you would say no way. If i said you have to work 12 hour today, you would say yes i can do that. Also what will you do if and when you get to a year. Listening to you video i am going to say, you will say yes i done a year, lets celebrate. You will be back drinking. If you are struggling to stay stopped chances are you may be alcoholic. If when you start drinking you have more drinks than you planed you may be alcoholic. However i will leave that up to you. Maybe go to AA for a short while. See if you hear people talk about things you do. Look for similarities not the differances. I wish you well John alcoholic 34 years sober and happy.
Funny you say this John, had a massive realisation since posting this video and it relates to the year challenge ;). My definition of an alcoholic has definitely changed and although I was never physically dependent, stopping has helped me realise I was mentally dependent. The fact that it takes up so much mental space to stop says it all.
Yall talking about quitting drinking and not one mention of AA. You cant think yourself out of a problem with the mind that created it. Get help or get more hell your choice.
Yes, its good for killing bugs. Thats why we put it on our hands during the pandemic. But guess what... we are bugs too... just LARGE ones... and alcohol will kill us too if we persevere with it. Dont give up.
Sober for years I just quit and pilled it off like a dirty band aid. My life was pretty good before or so I thought but I felt so much better in that alcohol dulled my shine that I don't miss it. You couldn't pay me to have a drink. Well maybe if you gave me like 100k for a glass of wine I'd do it but you know what I mean, not going back as life is far better without it. More energy, more clarity and it took a while for the full benefits of feeling so well to kick in I wouldn't want to sabotage it. Also remember there is no safe dose of alcohol but from what you are saying you're a pretty bad alcoholic worse than you think. Your head is full of irrational rationalizations in that you think that if you had a problem before you can just get stronger and get back to it at a later point. Here's a news flash its a depressant with long term bad effects on your body, mind and soul. It takes a long time of sobriety to reap the full benefits and all you need is a slip up to get back to square one in terms of how it sets you back and then you have to climb out of it again. Plus like I said there is no safe dose the harm starts from the first sip. If you can't "just quit" and you want go back to this known deadly poison and class 1 carcinogen which has been proven to be as bad as tobacco, asbestos and radiation suggest you go to AA/12 step, see your doctor/counselor etc. Run for your life (from booze)!
Alcohol is a drug Our society talks about ‘alcohol and drug’ abuse and addiction like its (alcohol) is separate in some form .. if you drink alcohol daily, frequently then you’re addicted to a drug so you’re a drug addict. Tell someone who drinks everyday. Even one or two, that they’re a drug addict and frowns etc abound. I’m 58 I used alcohol since early teens till mid forties , stopped for seven years and became a qualified training nut, mostly serious and grumpy… I never realised how one can become almost a social outcast in our alcohol drenched society, after some personal downs I began drinking again for three years with gusto and watched my entire lifestyle fall apart… I’ve had 5 months off here and 2 months off there recently with the hope that I’ll be able to have a couple drinks in company over dinner etc.. but it never works like that for me , so I enjoyed your video it was like listening to myself , 5 weeks free at the mo, but my friend and I were very close to dropping into the bottle store on the way to band practice, but we didn’t, just remember alcohol is a poison and a drug if you don’t mind being a drug addict and can afford it , then go for it, it’s a free choice in our culture, no one’s going to judge you, no one really cares anyway what you do, because everyone is busy with their own Stuff, sobriety is a personal thing and being vigilant isn’t easy at any moment during abstinence… the more you think of alcohol the more you will think of alcohol., think of something else, 😊
Thanks so much for sharing. I fully agree, alcohol takes up so much mental capacity even when you've quit. Glad you enjoyed the video, I don't aim to give straight advice because everyone is different. It's more a journal of experience that I'm sure people will be able to relate to. It's exactly what I would have wanted to watch in those first 3 months.
@@sober-diary hope you’re doing okay. Thanks for the reply, like I mentioned it was like listening to myself haha, 6 weeks for me atm, ..and coming into winter here in NZ, had the thoughts of nestling in tonight with a few hot toddies, but went and got some yogurts instead lol’.all the best. And have a great day.
@@johnscott3795 I was in NZ in October / November, it was my first couple of months being sober. Absolutely love the country, it's the best place we've ever been.
