I agree with you completely completely. These things are absolutely fantastic locks for their price. Also, you're spot on on the price. I bought one a couple weeks ago and they are indeed $16. I was pleasantly surprised when I got it home and started picking, and even more pleasantly surprised when I got it open and started taking it apart and found a kik cylinder.
They are nice... I've featured of locks from this line up before in videos 160 and 166. THe shrouded version of this lock is a heck of a security value IMO.
Check out the other locks in the 24/7 series... I've featured a couple before, in videos 160 and 166. Personally, I like the 50mm laminated with the shrouded shackle. Awesome security value.
I just bought this sexy lil lock for my collection. Although I'm a grossen-nooben at SPP I will certainly have fun trying...after I try my _Polaris_ wave-rake attacks! Anyway, another fast Pick-n-Click from LPL...collecting the usual plaudits.👏👏
I just bought the 60mm version. 11.1mm molybdenum steel shackle, laminated steel body, ball bearing locking mechanism, drill protection and than this core wich is fairly tricky to pick - 15.01 dollars on amazon.com at the moment, I paid 17,19€ at amazon.de. Why is Master Lock still in business? A comparable Master Pro Series (all the other ones are way easier to pick) is at least double that price. At 17,19€ that is here in Germany an outstanding offering (we generally pay a bit extra when compared the US). But the main point is, that there is not that much competition here in the padlock market. In stores you find like 60% Abus, 15% Burg Wächter, 25% store brands (sometimes decent, mostly not) and then of course chinese crap, but I don't count that. On amazon and other online dealers when searching for "Vorhängeschloss" like the normal buyer would, you get 20 pages of Abus, chinese crap and a few Burg locks, but often times they don't even list good locks like this under the most obvious tags.
I have heard that with the kwikset smart key, you can just push a piece of tool steel in the key way, then use a wrench to open it. You should test that out! Similar to what you did with the plastic core lock and a screwdriver.
My understanding is that only works on the older ones. I heard that they redesigned the sliders and used some tougher materials. But I had never tested that.
I have this lock, and didnt think anything of it as most of my practice locks are Master lock. Counted the six pins and was excited to give it a shot. Couldnt get a solid read on any of the pins so i came here. Now i know why. If i can pick this one consistently ill be a happy camper! How much tension are you using? I noticed your finger was a little white, not sure how to gauge that though.
What a sweet little gem of a lock! I just ordered one off of Amazon... Well, actually I ordered the 60mm one, as for some strange reason, the 50mm lock was 34 bucks, and the 60mm was 17 bucks. Go figure. Any really substantial differences between those two locks other than the 10mm size difference? I also ordered the Stanley CD8823 shrouded shackle lock shown in your video number 160. Master Lock could really learn a thing or two from Stanley. By all rights, Stanley should own the huge market share that Master has. Too bad, really. Edit: I notice in this video that there is an anti-bypass plate in this lock, but in the CD8823 I didn't see one. Is the CD8823 a non bypassable design?
looked like a great quality lock , price difference could also be added to your list. I'm sure for example the low ranking locks are going to be cheaper, however this sometimes can be surprising ( reasonable security lock at low price) just to make things interesting..
Price is tough to compare... this lock in particular is strange. I bought it for around $16, but I've seen it go for over $30. Which price to use? Maybe compare Amazon prices? But all of these locks are not on Amazon, and even then, there are silly issues (like the shrouded version of this lock selling on Amazon for $17 while this lock is selling for $24). Too many variables for there to be a meaningful comparison. That's why I stick to picking.
I did not try raking this particular lock, but I did on the ones in videos #160 and #165 (they have the same core). I was not able to rake them, but as I've said before, I'm not a great raker. Also, I know I've said this before, but I've not been able to replicate BB's success with raking the SmartKey locks, and I know others have had similar results (or lack of results) as mine... so I would not be quick to say that SK locks can be raked, at least not with anything resembling regularity or consistency.
The SK locks can be raked, but it takes a lot of skill. Thing you gotta remember about Bosnianbill: he's danged good at this. I've seen him pull off a couple feats that I'm told are supposed to border on impossible (reliably SPPing a Best in just a couple minutes, raking a SK, and OMG some of the sadistic challenge locks he's opened...) Given that he's a federal agent it's not unthinkable that someday a life might depend on his ability to get a lock open quickly, if he hasn't already been in that situation. I would imagine that he could give some professional locksmiths a run for their money when it comes to raking.
Another great video and what seems to be a decent lock! I think I'll add one to my collection! It looks like it takes a standard KIK cylinder, aren't those pretty standard? So I could replace the core with a pinned up KIK cylinder? They look the same.
Thanks, and yes, this is a standard Schlage style KIK cylinder. If you are going to buy one for use, consider the variant shown in my video #160. It's only about $17-18 on Amazon and it has some extra shackle protection.
pin 5 is actually triangle and it does not fit into the plug. only the end where it's beveled fits in. I think it's supposed to catch the counter milling.
Just wondering I have a Stanley kwikset series 60mm padlock and have been to two locksmiths to get a spare key cut. But so far had no luck getting a spare even with the code
Yes, those locks are nice (see videos 160 and 166), but for the lock box on a machine that will hold money, I'd consider going with a hidden shackle lock, like maybe the Mul-T-Lock puck lock.
I'm sure this sounds crazy to none lockpickers but that looks like a very enjoyable padlock. PS did you get my PM I gave you my email it will be easier to communicate with that than through RU-vid.
I WAS happy... this video was at the end of a long recording session two weeks ago. I must have shot 15 videos, and this was my last one! I'll check my PM's when I get to a computer.