Good video! Have been "experimenting " with the V-max in .223 and .22-250. They are incredibly accurate and terminal performance is nothing less than awesome. I agree with the writer who suggests to "cap" the bottles when filled with water....best example of hydrostatic pressure, also makes putting the pieces in the garbage bag easier!!! I shoot small plastic coke bottles at 300 yards....WOWZERS! Also, varmints are easier to digest for the scavengers!!:)
Not a fan of the v-max in .223 fir coyotes but out of the 22-250 it's fine only draw back of the v max is they are explosive like they claim but sometimes coyotes will stay in hedgerows or a little brush and a peice of Timothy hay will explode a v max at any grain and for the. 223 I lost more coyotes from 30 yards to 200 with 55 and 50 grain v max they are just to big and too thick a hide in the northeast but they are accurate too
22-250 has been my go to for many years. I own all three presented here but my second favorite varmint caliber to tinker with is my Savage LRPV converted to bull barreled 20” 20 Vartarg.
I use these 55 vmax in my encore 22-250 and my ruger no1 in 220 swift if want something smaller I use my sako in 17 Remington, I did used too have 204 ruger another great cal
I also have all 3 calibers and have used these bullets in all 3 but my favorite caliber has always been the .204 loaded with Reloader 10X and a 40 Gr Berger Bullet for coyotes, 1 hole I nothing coming out. Great video
Just found your videos looking for SFAR videos. I have to say these are fantastic! I love the breakdown and also how you touch on BC and spin. I would love to see 223/5.56 test with, say, 4 different popular loads. Something like 55gr, 62gr, 69gr, and 77gr. Maybe even some of the lightweight 50gr. Also, do you a 300 blk you could test at say 100 yards? Either way, you got a new sub and I REALLY appreciate the fine content!
I've shot a 40gr Speer soft point from a .220 Swift at about 40 yards at a 1gal water bottle. Loads were about 4200 fps rated. Cloud of mist and flatted plastic debris in a 30 foot circle.
Had to comment on the 220 Swift, with 55gr Btips at 75 yards I shot a starling once. Beak was all I found intact. I wonder if "vaporized" is the terms to use... lol
i am not a varmint hunter, but if i was to get into it i believe your video points me to the .223 in a gas gun! the other 2 cartridges are both more expensive and harder to find.
Me too but I do have a very nice bolt action 223 & another in 17 Remington. The 17 is actually a better round than the 204 when comparing a 30 gr in the 17 to the 32gr in the 204
I have used the fine 22/250 ctg for over 40 years with impressive results ! 14 years ago I started with the .223 ctg and have been very happy with the results ! I use the V Max bullet in both ! Around 11 years ago I added the very fine Nosler Ballistic Tip with excellent results and accuracy !
I wonder how the Ruger round would have looked had you hid the bottle center on like the other two rounds. My thought is that the deflecting .204 round tore open the bottle like a can opener where it might have looked more like the other two if you had hit bottle center.
Great video. Glad you went 300 yards. With different impact areas if the 32 gran was to hit center it probably would have resulted in the same lack of through penetration. In gallon jug a 30gr Berger MEF out of a 17 Rem does the same thing. These bullets are indicative of shots on groundhogs. One hole and mush inside! Thanks for a great video.
Thanks for the video. I need to correct a misconception though... Twist rates: 1:14 is not a faster rate than 1:8. Let me explain. You are turning the bullet 1 full rotation in a specific length. 8" is shorter than 14". So that bullet has to turn faster to make 1 full rotation in 8" than it does in 14". When you multiply the speed of the bullet, that is where the twist speed comes into play. Because the 22-250 is traveling considerably faster, it leaves the barrel faster. So, it is actually spinning faster than the .223 bullet but NOT because of the twist rate. It is due to the speed at which the bullet leaves multiplied by the twist rate. If we look at 223 twist rates, 1:7 will be faster spinning than 1:8. Same bullet speed but you are making 1 full turn in a shorter distance. I hope I explained that well enough...
It's all about RPM. To make the math simple, a bullet at 3000fps with a 12" twist would be 3000rps or 180,000rpm. 8" twist at 3000fps would be right at 5000rps or 300,000rpm
I have all 3 and although my 22.250 holds my record on prairie dogs at 720 yards, my favorite is still the 204 due to speed, lack of recoil and ability to keep target viewed in scope much easier. Availability and price it has become the loser in that department.😢
@@jimgordon3206because of the destruction they do to farms. Cattle step in the holes and break their leg and tractors tear up equipment hitting the holes. A lot of people I know do eat the one's they shootnof coarse they use different caliber rifle's and the one's that eat them they don't blow them up too bad and mostly head shots.
I have 17hmr which has been great out to 200yds but iam now looking to add a caliber for longer ranges. So far i have been best impressed with the 204ruger due to its speed and flat shooting and versatile bullet choice. To me it done the most damage in your test.
The 223 has a much better bullet selection than the 204 & several bolt action 223s have a 9" or faster ROT so they will shoot bullets up to 70grs pretty well. Long for caliber & the heavier the better for long range but something in a 24 caliber is even better. This is the reason most Precision Rifle guys shoot 6mm Dashers. The 243 Win is good but the ROT is too slow in factory rifles to stabilize the best 6mm bullets.
Thank you for the video...nice chrono test and water jug/projectile results @ 300-yds...but I do not recall you ever mentioning what rifles you were using and/or barrel lengths, etc. I only remember something you said about a "gas gun" with the .223 Rem. ....The .223 Rem V-Max ammo had an advertisement on the box of 3240-fps out of the muzzle... your chrono was only showing 3055-fps at that time which is a little low for a 55-grain projectile out of a .223----that's why it is important for your audience to know the type of rifle and barrel length. I am kind of assuming your "gas gun" is maybe an AR-15 platform with 16" barrel using the .223 V-Max ammo used ???
very interesting video. thanks! For future, maybe try some 30 cal stuff.. say 308 using speer 130g TNT or 125g TNT. or 30-30 using hornady FTX, 7.62x39 150g or 125g soft point..
13:16 ish, Same bullet, two different cartridges. Looked to me like the 250 lifted the jug a couple inches higher too. Wonder what this would look like on 1 gal jugs.
This is a fairly conclusive test between the .223 and the 22-250. The 204 test comparison with the other two cartridges is flawed due to the errant 204 bullet placement.
You're on the right track, but water jugs don't tell you much especially when hitting different places. The test would be much more Valen if you use clay blocks, but you're off to a good start! A coyote would never know the difference.
You’re an evil man, 😂😂😂 I called it here for the 250 but expected a bigger water spout. The v-max expand really early. On goats I’ve shot at around 300, on particularly hairy goats, they leave a massive entry hole, mush inside and no exit marks. They not so hairy suffer a not so massive entry but what appears to be bruising near where the exit would be expected. Medium pigs at around 200, same thing, explode on impact, nothing exiting. Shots on all animals were in the kill zone, not head shots. I actually didn’t expect any of the rounds to leave an exit hole, so you’d better do the 204 again just to put my mind at ease, 😂😂😂. And you didn’t weigh the recovered material? For shame mate, for shame, 😂😂😂, my head won’t sit straight on my shoulders until you do, 🤣🤣🤣. Thanks for posting, cheers.
Not so sure about the evil comment. Even the jury isn't convinced, and they have been out for 3 days now... As far as the 204, my early inclination was to wonder how much more of an explosion would it have made with a shot that was more centered. The video does not do justice to what it looked like in person. Then saw the other results and wondered. Sometimes we have to "believe the target" to quote a popular phrase. In other words, believe the target we do have, not the one we wished we had. Was short on time and needed to test the others. Already planning on doing it again and even have the box of ammo marked that provided those velocities. Thanks for liking the vid and for sharing your knowledge with us. We are better for having you as a subscriber.
Also... Still have the water jugs in the same condition as in the vid. May still pour out the contents and check for weight. But that would mean spending time on giving you what you want rather than what you need. Please believe me when I tell you that the work is already under way to surpass what you saw in this video and the future presentations will be exactly what you need. Will try to give you what you want in time for the Holidays though. :)
😂😂😂 Was a darn good demonstration of how those poly tips expend their energy. The 55s are pretty much my goto pill, out the barrel around 38. Zero at 275, +1.5 @ 100, +1.25 @ 200, -2 @ 300, MoA not inches. They lose velocity pretty quick. One division above & below, lol. I’d like to do similar at our range but a couple of low brow knuckle draggers shot up a few and left the range in a mess so the owner banned all unofficial targets not made of paper for all weapons. And knowing the recovered weight is absolutely vital for World security. We need to know. But if you haven’t got time, don’t worry, the cia will let us know, 🤣🤣🤣 Cheers.
Thanks for your encouraging words. Much appreciated. I believe that the 60 grain v-max test can be arranged. Is there a distance at which you think would be best?
Those varmint loads are frangibles, they deliver their power very quickly and dissipate with the pieces. Vid demostated how devastating the V Max is on varmints nicely.
I Have Both 223 And 22/250 I Reload Both. I Have Heard For Years That The 22/250 Was Way Better Than 223. Well Im Hear To Say I Don't See It. They Are Both out Standing 22 Caliber Rounds. I Personally Think You Can Not Go Wrong With Either One, Although The 223 Might Be A Little Cheaper For Ammo.
you guys forgot one...that would be the 20 Vartarg.....my longest kill is 329 yards (with a Sig Rangefinder), on a Digger Squirrel....and it wasn't a fluke..the next round down the bbl took out his buddy @ 309 yds......3450 FPS with the 40 grain Hornady V-Max....and DEAD accurate...have it sighted on at 200yds, and the trajectory inbetween 50yds and 300 is hold-where-ya-wanna-hit ! ....and with only 17 grs powder, it doesn't wear the barrels out either...it's really the PERFECT varmint rifle.....OnWaard.........
Yeah, at 300 yards it would poke a little hole in the jug once you finally got dialed in and hit it. No lift off. No splash. No nothing but a little leak.
I have a .204 and 5.56 (same as .223 for most intents). I agree velocity cannot be understated, but the 22-250 was nearly as fast as the .204, I think the difference is where the bullets hit.
I have ot say the 204 did surprise me. Although it seemed to have a lot of energy ,the fact that shot placement was a bit off ,may have been why it cuased so much damage to the jug it self? From what i have heard about 204 it will leave you with a clean "undamaged" pelt as it normally stays in the target and causes minimal damage to the pelts...... But i still feel for max stopping powe out of these three cartridges go's to the 223.....Although i really do like that 204!!!
5 gallons water = 50LBS. of weight. Pus wt. of container. All of these calibers are lethal none the less. All will give a various ballistics on various bullet types used. All are good on deer, feral hogs, & big cats.
5 gallons of water is 40lbs. Water weighs 8lbs per gallon, not 10. None are reliable deer rounds, nor feral hogs & big cats, especially with V-Max bullets. Coyotes is about the biggest critter an ethical hunter would shoot with any of the 3 rounds. I have killed a deer with a 223 handload, a 60gr bullet with a well placed shot at about 100yds. but it's really not a deer cartridge & several states have laws requiring a .225" minimum diameter bullet to prevent 22s being used for big game
My pre 64 Winchester 220 swift does every thing I need to 500 yards I shot one of his horn off next time I made long range he was dead in just one second
@MJSE-ofgs. When hunting animals have you considered what percentage of water they are? They are likely 65 to 75% water. In other words, it could be said that we are hunting hairy bags of water. Hope that helps a bit. Thank you again for the interest in the videos. Much appreciated. 🙂👍
