#22 F90 King Air - The Hot Rod of the King Air Series

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In this video we are flying our company's 1980 Beechcraft F90 King Air. A lot of people have not heard of the F90 model which is a high-performance or hot rod version of the 90 King Air Series. It's got bigger engines, smaller wings, the T-tail from the B200 and other larger King Air series aircraft and a few other features like the same fuel system as in the B200.
Since one of our customers has a new 2018 C90 GTX and I just went to King Air school we will compare the 2018 model to our 1980 F90 King Air in a future video.
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0:00 Intro
0:39 Turbine Start
01:13 Take Off LGB
02:47 What is the F90 King Air
03:50 Our F90 King Air Upgrades
05:48 Performance
07:11 Approach
08:30 Landing
09:48 Take Off
11:38 Setting up ILS Approach
12:49 Landing Long Beach
14:01 Wrap Up
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@luiscortez1780 3 года назад

The content quality and variety of aircraft is amazing. Please keep them coming! Subscribed.

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Thank you! We are also always looking for ideas and feedback from our viewers! Let us know what you'd like to see!

@FlyingwithRich 2 года назад

@David Wood They quit making the 90s.

@craigpennington1251 3 года назад

King Air. No matter which model you're flying, it's all class. A fine aircraft to own. Great flight.

@nmelkhunter1 Год назад

I flew on one from the Double Eagle airport in ABQ to Afton, WY in 2010. The guy who owned the aircraft was from Artesia and had a bunch of oil money. He owned the company I worked for at the time and he took myself and two other guys mule deer hunting. He was one of the most down to earth people I’ve ever met and I’ve had an affinity for these aircraft ever since.

@airlogic 3 года назад

I love that the King Air has that iconic sound on takeoff when the prop governor kicks in when you set takeoff power, That slight over rpm then she locks in and settles..... Great content Rich

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Agree and thanks!!

@Parr4theCourse 3 года назад

I don’t know how you do it, flying so many different planes and it seems like they’re the only one you fly! I would be all over the place.... Good job!!

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Thanks - been fortunate for sure to get to fly a lot of different aircraft over the years!

@MilazzoTony 3 года назад

Good to see your channel pickup up steam. A lot of variety and the production quality keeps getting better as well. Keep making them.

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Thank you.

@ralphmadera4366 3 года назад

Rich , you are the man , you are just like a good baseball pitcher that can pitch with both hands. Keep them coming. Thanks

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Thank you!

@Parr4theCourse 3 года назад

I agree, I get confused flying two different 182’s!

@theresasrangerdaddy 3 года назад

Another great video! Amazing plane and scenery!

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@phillip2461 2 года назад

Love the king air rich what a beautiful bird great channel skypiot

@pauloestevam3462 3 года назад

King air is a rock solid airplane. Strong, nice to fly, reliable. I just love King Air, my top noch twin turboprop. Very popular in Brazil, keep going Rich.

@bernardanderson3758 3 года назад

You are like me in flying in anything and knowing each aircraft

@bernardanderson3758 3 года назад

The Company plane looking great Rich

@joycethomas8868 3 года назад

I’ve always loved the King Air 90. Perfect turboprop.

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@donaldholman9070 3 года назад

Nice landing!

@Bartonovich52 3 года назад

What really stands out for me is how close the nacelles are to the fuselage. Too used to the 350i.

@billbill6576 Год назад

Beautiful Airplane.

@phiggnewton5032 Год назад

Enjoyed the flight

@paultaylor9939 3 года назад

Another good one many thanks cheers

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Thanks you!

@gregadomeit4020 3 года назад

Great stuff first time watching your channel. Take care be safe and have fun.

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@newtnewton6721 3 года назад

Just subscribed to your channel , a few years back I got to fly in a king air 300 and thought that was a fun flight setting in the right seat and was impressed at our climb rate up to 30,000

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@donaldholman9070 3 года назад

Great video. Thank you.

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Glad you liked it!

@SorenHume Год назад

That’s a damn fine looking airplane

@igorfialho 3 года назад

Love it. Such a beautiful airplane. I hope I get the chance to fly one of those someday.

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

It’s a real treat to fly and look at! Thanks for watching!

@lindsaythomas2283 Год назад

Nice, clean panel.

@LMays-cu2hp 3 года назад

These are both very very good looking aircraft.

@LMays-cu2hp 3 года назад

Thank you..

@saschamenesi4865 3 года назад

Great airplane . Love your videos👍

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Thank you!

@Ripper13F1V 3 года назад

Sub'd. =) Wish you were closer to DFW so I could show my 11 year old around some of these aircraft. F-90 is just fast looking, and was always on of my fav's!

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Lot's to do in Socal for 11 year olds so stop by when you come out!

@phillh9057 3 года назад

Rich your a joy to fly with, you make it fun, imformative and I'd like to fly one of your plans next time I visit your area. I have family in Seal beach so not far away? I'm currently transitioning into a turbo prop And watching you for awhile your teaching skills & overall calmness are second to none. I currently hold a ppseli looking to get my commercial ticket in this next yr? I'm like most working durning this and have a great opportunity with a company in that area so I'll look you up here shortly probably towards fall of this year , I'll go to your website contact y'all from there. Thanks again I'd love to fly the F90 someday

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Thank you. Look forward to meeting you!

@jonathanjackson9208 3 года назад

The F90 in my opinion is the best of the 90 series. Really beautiful airplane

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Thanks for watching! I agree.

@MrMihawes 3 года назад

Really enjoy your videos, thanks for creating/uploading them! F90 - cool machine.

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Thank you for watching and commenting on them!

@crosseyedpilot 3 года назад

I’ve been flying a C90B with -135A engines, Raisbeck strakes, and Garmin G1000 for many years, and I’ve always been curious about the F90. Thanks for the video!

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

That seems like the sweet spot on the KA90s - G1000 with -135A motors. The GTX I have been flying has the Proline Fusion which is pretty cool, but I think Garmin preferred!

@tuhuzi4 3 года назад

What is your avarage fuel flow amd TAS with the C90B -135 on FL280?

@crosseyedpilot 3 года назад

@@tuhuzi4 I usually don't go to FL280 because of the limits on the pressurization system. At FL260, I usually get 240 lbs/hr/engine for a total of 480 lbs/hr which is arround 72 gal/hr. The TAS is usually around 259 kts at that altitude and closer to 265 kts at FL230.

@tuhuzi4 3 года назад

Those are good numbers for the 90 for sure. The -135 engine looks like a good upgrade then on the 90’s. Thanks for the reply. Highly appreciated.,

@petsmith7772 3 года назад

Great video with some excellent shots! Noticed it's even in 4k this time! Love it.

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Thank you!

@gtr1952 2 года назад

They look sweet for sure, love that paint! 8) Never been around one, do they auto-feather when you pull back to flight idle? I remember reading something about that. Maybe that accident in TX where they lost 1 engine on TO and pulled the good one back by mistake? I'm not used to jets either and I got a little chill when you mentioned 100 gal/hr. 8) It sure looks great on the ramp though!! 8) LOL --gary

@gregoryhill7960 Год назад

Hey Rich love your aviation videos

@FlyingwithRich Год назад

Thank you!

@felixmartinez5792 2 года назад

my uncle flew an F90 for years. I had the pleasure of flying with him many times before the F90 he flew a Cheyenne III . Also a fine aircraft fast ! sporty . But the F90 feels sturdy ,stable.+ comfort. Good old days....

@FlyingwithRich 2 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@sergehobo2697 2 года назад

I fly KA350 fusion and I love it!

@FlyingwithRich 2 года назад

Flew the 90 the other day - liking Fusion more every time I fly it! Thanks for watching!

@StefanoCreatini 2 года назад

Great channel !

@FlyingwithRich 2 года назад

Thank you!

@jbenthere627 2 года назад

Hi Rich. I'm new to your channel and enjoy your videos very much! I was wondering if you have to go up w/a CFII to get checked out in each plane prior to the flights that you do for your channel.

@FlyingwithRich 2 года назад

Welcome to the channel! No I don't. Plenty of experience and some type-ratings. 👍

@flogsbymm 3 года назад

What a awesome job you have lol

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Thanks for watching!

@dreamaviation381 3 года назад

Not much information shared on the King Air F90. Seems like a complicated airplane to fly. Compared to the other airplanes you’ve flown and shared a lot of information on. All In all it was an amazing video once again, great views and beautiful airplane. Would’ve been good to hear more about the King Air F90 to compare to the other king airs of that size. Thanks!!

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

We’ll do a more detailed video on the F90 and GTX soon. It’s a little more complicated - lots of switches, and manual system controls but also simple in a lot of ways. We’ll get more detail and a King Air guru on the comparison video coming soon.

@justsnappy 3 года назад

Take me with you next time! I’m not far from LGB.

@shawnengstrom3906 3 года назад

Never got to fly the F, but have time in the C and E 90's. Would love a Blackhawk F90.

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

I don’t have a lot of k KA experience but really like the F90 and the GTX. Such a great line of airplanes! Thanks for watching!

@Captnoatp 3 года назад

Always looking forward to tag along on your flights. Pretty much a different plane every time:) A beautiful F-90 for sure. I’ve heard that the insurance rates have been up pretty much the last couple of years on turboprops. Is that your experience to?

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Insurance rates up across the board from my experience - some more than others. Owner flown turbine aircraft probably getting hit the hardest right now.

@Captnoatp 3 года назад

@@FlyingwithRich Yeah, owner flown turbine are hit pretty hard. Thanks for the response.

@B1900pilot 4 месяца назад

F-90 was a lot of fun, but took a bit to get used to after flying 3000-hours in the 1900C/D.

@josejavierescalantee6656 2 года назад

Hello Rich! I've been following your channel for a while, and let me tell I enjoy the content very much since subscribed. You show and fly a wide variety of GAv airplanes, many of them just beauties. Particullary I'm a big fan of Beechcraft airframes, and this F90 is one of my favs! So sexy; way different than the more sturdy -boxy looking C90 (still a nice aircraft). Keep up the great job you do! Btw, can you explain to me briefly the difference between the F90 and the F90-1 models? Thank you in advance. Greetings from Mexico.

@FlyingwithRich 2 года назад

F90-1 had upgraded engines, PT6-135A vs the -135s in the older versions. Basically more power available at higher altitudes for more speed.

@gary24752 3 года назад

Those blinking screens would drive me nuts

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Me too! We need a filter on the camera to fix that. Thanks for watching!

@joeljasper3622 Год назад

What is the recommended airspeed for crossing the initial approach fix for a KA90? Approach speed?

@timmholzhauer3342 3 года назад

Nice video!! I love the F90! My favorite KA! How do C90 compare to the F90 when it comes to short fields? If I hear you correctly both have pretty similar performance numbers in cruise? Thanks!

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

They are comparable but newer C90s with -135A motors have better performance. There are a lot of variants and engine differences so hard to make broad statements about them. F90 better performance than earlier C90.

@dxbmick 3 года назад

Great video! Flew the Super Kingair 25 years ago for three years. Best plane ever. Is it just me or is the synchro-phaser a little out?

@Bartonovich52 3 года назад

I was hearing that too.

@YakMan737 2 года назад

Great vid. Did you ever do the video with the C90 GTx?

@FlyingwithRich 2 года назад

Coming soon. Thanks for watching!

@TexanUSMC8089 Год назад

I have no idea how different it handles with that big tail sticking up in the air, but it looks great.

@FlyingwithRich Год назад

Pretty much the same but looks so good!

@cessnan411ce5 2 года назад

It's short stature makes it look like a close cousin of the Embraer EMB-121 Xingu

@mikercflyer7383 3 года назад

King Airs are such beautiful aircraft . Do you have a military background? Safe travels

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

I do not - all civilian. Love the warbirds and a dream to be able fly them, especially the WWII fighters!

@yzaw4411 3 года назад

One question What is the difference in handling and performance from a T-tail and regular tail? Great video quality Thanks

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

I don't really note any real feel or difference in the T-tail configuration of any of the airplanes I fly. There are some aerodynamic benefits to the t-tail - good question.

@pedrodanielobrego7368 2 года назад

Hola soy de argentina y me gusto el video espero q me inviten a conocerlos

@Mikemeazzy Год назад

I would love the opportunity to take a flight with you next time you're in moreno valley

@joelthacker1852 7 месяцев назад

What a nice airport, flat with no obstructions..where is that?

@carldeane 3 года назад

I have a very similar paintjob on my F90!

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Really? Send us a pic on Instagram if you don't mind! @flyingwithrich

@dougmohn1182 3 года назад

You should invite me for a quick flight, I'm just next door in AZ, I will come to you. It would be cool to have an opinion for a none private flyer. As usual great video...

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Maybe one day! Thank you for the feedback!

@bartofilms 2 года назад

Do you get better elevator authority with the T-tail 90 vs. the conventional C90 tail?

@FlyingwithRich 2 года назад

Hard to say - don’t remember a big difference. Thanks for watching!

@gregc6661 2 года назад

I’d give my eyeteeth for a ride in a King Air!

@FlyingwithRich 2 года назад

Great airplane. Thanks for watching.

@DogMania 3 года назад

Love the videos! Any chance of doing a hawker 400? I know there a ton around and some are getting modern avionics upgrades

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

At the moment I don't have any connections for a Hawker 400. Let me know if you know of anyone!

@FlightSimDude 6 месяцев назад

👍

@donizetesilva1088 Год назад

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@skyjakeX 2 года назад

F90's are way cool. I forgot about the yaw factor in pulling both engines to idle if they are not synced. Are you taking crypto for aircraft yet?

@FlyingwithRich 2 года назад

Not yet! Maybe in a few years haha.

@nyuscdjs 2 года назад

What's the real world range for 4 standard PAX. I hear conflicting info from 900NM to 1200NM. Big difference in selecting an aircraft between those numbers.

@FlyingwithRich 2 года назад

4 pax means you can go full fuel and have, at minimum, 4.75 hours with reserve so at @ 245 knots that is over 1100 miles no wind.

@doesntmatter3068 3 года назад

I've never flown a twin. On the King, or any twin for that fact, does the props turn in opposites direction to cancel out the P? Just curious.

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

King Air's do not have CR props - few twins do, but there are some training aircraft that have CR props - Piper had several piston twins with CR props. Thanks for watching!

@doesntmatter3068 3 года назад

@@FlyingwithRich Hey thanks for the quick reply. That really almost don't make sense... you would think that all twins would have CR props, for safety reasons. Cant be that hard to make an engine run backwards.

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

It’s a cost benefit analysis. CR props don’t cancel out asymmetrical thrust component so still have to deal with it. It certainly helps but not enough to offset higher costs.

@doesntmatter3068 3 года назад

@@FlyingwithRich I see, i didn't know this.... Thanks for the explanation. Happy fly'en!

@RK831 2 года назад

How does this compare against Pilatus PC-12?

@FlyingwithRich 2 года назад

KA a little bit faster but higher fuel burn, and cabin not as big as PC12. PC12 also has the large door for cabin access. PC12 would be significantly more expensive on acquisition than a King Air of similar vintage as N980CR. Thanks for watching.

@Factory400 2 года назад

100GPH! I just fell over.

@LESPAUL44mag 3 года назад

Interesting timing considering Beechcraft just discontinued the 90 King Air! Is it gone forever?

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

It’s such a great airplane - sad to see it go but glad I’m getting to fly it. Looking forward to the GTX video!

@LESPAUL44mag 3 года назад

@@FlyingwithRich Sweet just subscribed!

@homemdeferro8464 2 года назад

beautiful plane is for sale ? the F90 I'm looking for one in this configuration. Thank you.

@FlyingwithRich 2 года назад

No it's not for sale. It's our company aircraft. Sorry!

@MichaelM-to4sg 3 года назад

Love that titanium grey-blue paint. Full disclosure, I’ve owned and flown MU2B-40 for 3 decades flying primarily between homes in CO to Lake Tahoe and Puget Sound. Short field performance, speed, efficiency and servicing I choose the Solitaire over KA every day of week and twice on Sunday. We’re actually contemplating downsizing to C340A due to operational costs relative to our mission profiles. These big tp twins are great on long profiles but flying under 200 hrs annually where primary profile is under 5 hrs, they are very expensive to operate compared to a C340A/C421C or modern SETP like TBM.

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

I have never flown the MU2 but always been curious about it. Sounds like a great airplane for you. I’m sure a lot of people would like to hear your experience - let’s do a video when you are ready to sell!

@T25de 3 года назад

I wish my Land Cruiser got as good fuel economy as this beautiful King Air 6:00

@estlerd 3 года назад

I too have a Land Cruiser. It loves to stop at gas stations.

@bernardanderson3758 3 года назад

I would love to be the camera guys job so let him know that you have another guy coming out to take the position for next one

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Noted! - *_The Camera Guy ;)_*

@joelthacker1852 3 месяца назад

You can crab that in and its sweet.

@andrewjeon2411 2 года назад

How many seats does this have?

@FlyingwithRich 2 года назад

Up to 8

@michaelmcconnell3777 3 года назад

Starting engine #1 with cabin door open?

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Wasn't a problem but there was quite a JET-A odor in the cabin for a couple minutes after that. Things we do for the right shot...

@Shadowtoo2 3 года назад

Of course! It's a Beech Craft.

@yurimoros Год назад

I really like your show …. I’m now closing my second eclipse like the 550 … is not like your big super Spence’s jet but ill like to put it on your disposal if you want to fly and if your day i think to sale your are like a nice good men you will be the one to sale it when my evolution totally costume if finish i mean very personalize will be the most luxury and long range model evo ever

@nigeldawson8218 3 года назад

When I collect my mega millions winnings, I’ll be calling you!

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

I’ll be ready!

@dabneyoffermein595 2 года назад

C90 GTX video? link me up if you don't mind.

@FlyingwithRich 2 года назад

Video coming this Saturday. Please subscribe so you won't miss it!

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@RIP5582 2 года назад

The aircraft to have.

@FlyingwithRich 2 года назад

Agree! Thanks for watching!

@joelthacker1852 Месяц назад

You can be at max gross and still climb into the 30s without delay..well at mabye

@bernardanderson3758 3 года назад

Rich let’s do this

@Agislife1960 3 года назад

F-90 is definitely a Hot Rod, still wont outrun a Cheyenne 400LS built in the 80's tho lol

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

400LS is a beast - got to fly one a few times - wow!

@Captnoatp 3 года назад

Talking about the Piper’s, the F90 got the same engines as the Cheyenne IIxL -135 Those are pretty similar performance wise. The 400LS are in a totally different league, like what Rich is saying, simply a Beast.

@Agislife1960 3 года назад

@@FlyingwithRich I maintained a couple of King Air 200's in Alaska back in the 90's, good fast machines, but our bread & Butter were Piper Navajo Chieftains with one Piper 1040, which was a straight up Hot Rod, so Ive always had a special place in my heart for the Cheyenne/Navajo line.

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

We have a Navajo CR coming up for sale soon with a bunch of nice upgrades. I’ll do a video on it soon. Thanks for watching!

@chcr8150 3 года назад

Just looked up the 400LS, ceiling 41K feet, WOW

@cooperdanieltherancher 2 года назад

How much for a f90?

@FlyingwithRich 2 года назад

Company airplane - not for sale!

@cooperdanieltherancher 2 года назад

@@FlyingwithRich how much would it cost to buy one used?

@Meowface. 9 месяцев назад

@@cooperdanieltherancher 1.5 - 2 million

@smartycummins2500 3 года назад

Wow only 255knts on 100gal/hr? If you want speed, you need an MU2. 310 true on 70gal/hr

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Speed is a factor for sure, but not the only factor - market demand certainly proves that as the MU2 had pretty dismal market demand even at the higher speed performance.

@smartycummins2500 2 года назад

@@FlyingwithRich no arguing there. Easier to find parts and techs to work on King Air’s. If speed is the only factor, the MU2 is the winner. But you can’t beat the pickup truck the King Air’s

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@sha6mm 3 года назад

F90 has the Cool factor for looks but the E90 is the best value in the KingAir 90 series put the same upgraded engines and Avionics the E90 is the better plane. For what some newer F90’s go for you can get a KingAir 200 and the 200 is a lot more plane than the 90 series KingAir. What causes the deceleration when you go to idle with the F90 is 4 bladed props they go flat with 3 bladed props it stays straight and just glides much better flying qualities. Same thing in 200 when I went from 3 bladed props to 4 bladed props I noticed it there also. Tell the truth Beechcraft made a mistake going the C90A route years ago should of went E90 and put the newer cowling on the E90 as it has higher gross weight and high service ceiling and has more fuel than C90A

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Thanks for the info, and thanks for watching!

@joelthacker1852 3 месяца назад

A little high

@mintyfreshbreath3945 3 года назад

the B60 Duke looks faster, but sadly its not.

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

At least it looks fast!

@mintyfreshbreath3945 3 года назад

@@FlyingwithRich fastest looking plane on the tarmac.

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Ramp appeal is important.

@aky19832001 2 года назад

100 gallons an hour isn't that great. Because one of the smaller jets on your channel was doing that at a higher altitude, faster speed and better performance.

@FlyingwithRich 2 года назад

That’s a different measure. 100 g an hour in the jet at a specific altitude/atmosphere is different than total gallons of gas used divided by total hours put on the King Air - that is average fuel burn per hour. I don’t have a customer who can tell me they purchased X volume of fuel over a specific period of hours to have the same number, but it would be higher for sure. It wouldn’t be the same for all operators either. I think Craig’s fuel burn of 100 g/hour is higher than most because we use the King Air for a lot of short hops where the fuel burn per hour is very high. Thanks for watching and the comment!

@k-peezy2723 2 года назад

Cheyenne 400LS is far superior. The TPE's and their performance make those PT6's on the KA look like kindergarten riddles. For reference, I grew up flying a B62 Duke with a pair of TIO 512s. You can't even mention the proper mfg'er of the King Air. "250kts TAS" - Yeah, that's called height speed restrictions. "They can yaw you, one way or another". I'd love to see you try to fly a trail dragger. You have zero experience. I grant you no points, and may god have mercy on the souls who have to fly with you.

@pinkdoughnut869 3 года назад

Biggest pos of a King Air ever. Complete garbage. My company had too off them few years ago. Nobody would fly them. Junk. I’m 8300k in -200’s before you tag me.

@FlyingwithRich 3 года назад

Thanks for watching!