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22 LR Holy Grail - CCi Stinger 32 grain Test Fired in the Ruger LCP II “Lite-Rack” 22 LR Pistol 

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@islanddon865
@islanddon865 9 месяцев назад
My lead bullet is a STINGER, it's followed by VELOCITORS in my magazines. I want the impact of the faster STINGER on the first shot, but I want proper loading with my VELOCITORS. In my Taurus TX after over 1100 rounds, I have had .6% failure rate. All were using STINGERS. Not one VELOCITOR failed. Good enough for me. 😊
@GeographyCzar
@GeographyCzar 8 месяцев назад
Great range report! Thanks, islanddon865!
@reillymitchell9784
@reillymitchell9784 7 месяцев назад
That’s smart ngl
@freshfowler1398
@freshfowler1398 3 года назад
Generally CCI makes the most reliable ammo, have you ever tried aguilla 40gr interceptors? They are hotter than the velocitor.. also very reliable as well.👍🇺🇸
@FargoFX
@FargoFX 3 года назад
I’ve also found CCI extremely reliable. Even their budget ammo has worked well for me (except maybe for the really old bare aluminum cased Blazer from the 90s). I like Aguilla too, but haven’t tried the rimfire ammo. Will definitely check it out.
@GeographyCzar
@GeographyCzar 3 года назад
I'm gonna try interceptors when I can get some again!
@Subtlenimbus
@Subtlenimbus 2 года назад
I tried the Interceptors through mine. They were slightly slower than Velocitors. I got an average of 931 fps with Interceptors and 949 fps with Velocitors. Winchester Super X were faster than both at 962 fps.
@LA_Commander
@LA_Commander 9 дней назад
I prefer the CCI mini mag in 40 grain round nose for the reliability. I think that is much more important than velocity when your life depends on it. If you get into a defensive situation the LAST thing you want is a stoppage. I like a reliable round.
@jpdaddy678
@jpdaddy678 3 года назад
I ran some through my lcp2 22..seemed hard on the gun and the magizne..I won't probably shoot anymore in it I'll save them for my 10 22..my lcp2 likes the cci standard velocity
@pekolucky
@pekolucky 2 года назад
I had the same hiccups with CCI Stingers in my LCP II also. Switched to Aguila and no problems.
@wampa4321
@wampa4321 2 года назад
Well I was watching another video on this same setup and he said he was having the same problem with Stingers not ejecting. The casing from the Stinger is longer then a normal 22 shell which makes ejecting out of the Ruger makes it harder because of the size of the ejection port. The ejecting port of the LCP is really small and he did that’s probably why it was doing it. They are made for rifles or bigger 22 hand guns. I’m not sure if it has anything to do with the nickel plate but idk. I have Stingers and the Ruger and I haven’t shot any out of it yet. I’m still going threw my mini mags
@GeographyCzar
@GeographyCzar 2 года назад
Yup, Stingers have that extra millimeter or so of case. I didn't even know that before I bought this box. Now I have a revolver, mainly so I can shoot Stingers, lol!
@frankbrowning328
@frankbrowning328 3 года назад
Might be the mags do not work as well with the slightly longer nickel case. It wouldn't hurt to hand polish (We don't change any angles) the feed ramp and chamber with a little Flitz and a Q-Tip. Even if it doesn't help with the Stingers the smooth shiny surface makes it clean up easier and faster.
@charlesphillips5906
@charlesphillips5906 3 года назад
Gel test with Stinger vs Velocitor in the LCP please
@Aruuu99
@Aruuu99 2 года назад
Super review for sure with all the relevant information so wonderfully presented. A similar test for the CCI Velocitor will be highly appreciated as well. God Bless.
@siouxbe1
@siouxbe1 2 года назад
I always sling-shot the slide rather than using the slide release and never any problems
@kineticenergy1085
@kineticenergy1085 2 года назад
I just bought same gun and tested it and chronograph it the other day. The lady behind the counter who sold me the gun said to use Aguila high velocity ammo, which is said to feed the best. 100 rounds with only 4 FTF, which for a .22, is pretty good, I made a video too, and that Aguila was chronograph over 1100 fps👍🏼good video too bro.
@timroot4207
@timroot4207 2 года назад
Thank You !
@joe.halstead8822
@joe.halstead8822 Год назад
Ok, right on the money I tried stingers and 2 for 2 mags it did that fte double feed thing, cycles blazer, Cci standard, aguila high velocity copper fmj, the Winchester super x’s only ammo I’ve had a single issue w besides these are velocitors and the he rounds have about a 1% primer or light strike issue. Love this little gun though, she don’t like stingers
@epps1217
@epps1217 3 года назад
Mine shoots most stuff pretty well. Last time out, 200 rounds of Thunderbolts and not one hickup. Doesn't like Stingers though. Velocitors are no problem.
@jeffbrund
@jeffbrund 7 месяцев назад
You may already know but…the brass on the Stingers are longer than the Velosters. My gf’s LCP hangs on the longer brass.
@GeographyCzar
@GeographyCzar 7 месяцев назад
Yes indeed. My brother told me that many years ago, but I actually forgot about it until somebody mentioned it again in the comments a while ago.
@PetuniaIii-pd1ww
@PetuniaIii-pd1ww 2 года назад
Our testing showed our lcp ll runs the 36gr mini-mags best...we still carry revolvers because the gun isn't 101% trusted...sometimes it will shoot a 100 out of a 100 without issue, but not everytime...probably related to being .22 rimfire, but that is a deal breaker for carry, and now the gun used as a range toy...
@WinchesterSuperX1
@WinchesterSuperX1 2 года назад
The wax is not to keep out moisture. It is to prevent leading the barrel. The plating is very thin and is of minimal value in preventing leading. Pretty much all 22s are waxed or lubricated in some way
@plasticglock
@plasticglock 3 года назад
I like the vids man! I have one of those too. I run HV 40 grain Winchester solids in mine. I don't generally carry it for SD though. Mine kills egg eating snakes in my chicken coops.
@chrisd9076
@chrisd9076 2 года назад
I recently bought some boxes of 40gr winchester super x hp. They have a real pop to them, even more so than minimags, which is nice for bulk ammo. I found a gel test for them on here yesterday, where they performed great, and expanded nicely.
@ryanashby2459
@ryanashby2459 2 года назад
Great pistol. Mine eats everything but Winchester...
@phxamigo
@phxamigo 2 года назад
The stinger usually have a longer case that can cause issues in some firearms, I don’t believe it’s the nickel plated case
@GeographyCzar
@GeographyCzar 2 года назад
Yep. Never noticed that about Stinger before. I mention it in a later video.
@Subtlenimbus
@Subtlenimbus 2 года назад
Exactly. When the mag is full it exerts the most pressure on the bottom of the slide, slowing it down when cycling. That, combined with the slightly longer case kept it from fully leaving the chamber before the next round in the mag pinned it. It should be noted that in stock form the extractor doesn’t do much in this gun. The empties eject mostly by being blown out of the chamber. When cycling the barrel drops too low and the extractor slips off the top of the rim. If you try to manually cycle unfired rounds through the gun they jam just like that stinger case. I fixed it by putting a 1/4” long piece of 1/16” diameter silicone between the barrel and takedown pin (the gun must be assembled upside down). Now it works perfectly. Well, almost. Hot ammo started making the slide lock back with rounds still in the magazine. I removed the slide stop entirely, and the empties still eject fine, and it fires everything flawlessly.
@Fudmottin
@Fudmottin 3 года назад
Those hangups with the stingers sure are weird. I was thinking the feed lips on that one magazine might be just the tiniest bit off, like 0.001" or something. But I'm not sure that theory holds water.
@wadewoehrmann2835
@wadewoehrmann2835 3 года назад
had one mag that the rounds seemed to load just a bit high - like the lips were too wide....
@Fudmottin
@Fudmottin 3 года назад
@@wadewoehrmann2835 With all self loaders, the magazine is the weak point in the system.
@Fudmottin
@Fudmottin 2 года назад
I just remembered that stingers have longer than standard cases. Ruger warns against using them in certain 10/22 models. I plan to not use them in anything.
@mikehaynes8647
@mikehaynes8647 11 месяцев назад
The problem is the length of the Punch and the Stinger. Both are just a little bit longer than standard 22 LR>
@samhotstick13.28
@samhotstick13.28 3 года назад
I just bought this gun, going to try the fed punch the stingers and the volicitors. Wonder why the nickel case would cause feeding issues.
@rob6850
@rob6850 3 года назад
Might be the longer case length on the Stinger. It is a pretty tight squeeze in there.
@jefftoonstra5087
@jefftoonstra5087 Год назад
@@rob6850 same issue with Fed Punch
@charleyweinhardt
@charleyweinhardt 2 года назад
how could you shoot all those bullets and not want to hit something?
@brf351c
@brf351c 15 дней назад
What type of sight paint (red) did you use on the LCP2.
@GeographyCzar
@GeographyCzar 14 дней назад
I'll try to find it, it was a really bright red-orange nail paint, I may have it up at the ranch since I moved, or I may have thrown it out.
@Texasmade4444444444
@Texasmade4444444444 3 года назад
I stopped using stingers in my semi autos the cases are slightly longer and overall length of round is
@CrackerFL
@CrackerFL 2 года назад
Ruger recommends 1200-1400 fps rounds. So yes, the Stingers might be too hot. Mine wouldnt feed the stingers. When I did get one, yes, it seemed too much for that pistol.
@superfisto
@superfisto 3 года назад
thanks man
@FargoFX
@FargoFX 3 года назад
I know you’ve had issues with certain magazines with that Ruger before, but have you tried changing (or messing with) the recoil spring itself? Too bad you don’t have a $40,000 high speed camera so we could see what’s causing the hangups. Lol. 😂
@gregdiamond4328
@gregdiamond4328 2 года назад
Excellent video 👍🏼
@calvinledford9606
@calvinledford9606 2 года назад
The LCP2-22 I’m familiar with eats stingers without a single issue.
@GeographyCzar
@GeographyCzar 2 года назад
Thanks for the range report. Mine didn't, so I traded it in. Will be shooting stingers from now on, platform is optional, stingers are not.
@wadewoehrmann2835
@wadewoehrmann2835 3 года назад
Had an issue with one magazine out of 4... with stingers.
@cowboylane1987
@cowboylane1987 3 года назад
Cci copper work good out of it and hit a target hard it supposed to be the fastest 22 no jam or miss feeds
@shannonfritsch6647
@shannonfritsch6647 2 года назад
Mine shot em fine. But had slide lock back issues
@GeographyCzar
@GeographyCzar 2 года назад
Probably the magazine. Ruger mags are hit and miss these days... not sure what's going on with that.
@CrackerFL
@CrackerFL 2 года назад
I called Ruger, they recommended 1100-1400 fps. The Stinger is 1600fps. Might be too,hot a load for that small pistol
@abemontalvo6694
@abemontalvo6694 3 года назад
Appreciate the test bro
@Ali-7676
@Ali-7676 2 года назад
This gun has utterly failed for my intended ankle carry purposes. The fact that I have to put thousands of rounds through it to break it in, get a performance spring kit, heavier recoil spring, and maybe even a performance trigger, and fiddle with the countless permutations of ammo x magazine x accuracy all makes this little gun unsustainable. Its a shame as I really wanted this one to work as a backup ankle carry pistol. Ill going to order the Galloway spring kit and the MCarbo recoil spring as a last ditch effort and hope that that they improve reliability. After that, I think Im going to go for a .32 HR or maybe even the Taurus .380 revolver.
@GeographyCzar
@GeographyCzar 2 года назад
I traded mine. Just didn't quite trust it.
@jefftoonstra5087
@jefftoonstra5087 Год назад
Did you try returning under warranty? My Taurus 942 .22 revolver works flawlessly but it’s a heavy piece, as far as CC
@michaelschaffer5984
@michaelschaffer5984 2 года назад
Mine shoots Stingers flawlessly.
@jefftoonstra5087
@jefftoonstra5087 Год назад
Did you have to modify anything or did it shoot that well from factory?
@Mrbankfisherman
@Mrbankfisherman 3 года назад
My Keltec P17 likes the stingers I started having issues when I put a red dot on it so I end up taking the red dot off.
@rileyneufeld7001
@rileyneufeld7001 3 года назад
Probably slide velocity issues with the added mass from the red dot.
@Mrbankfisherman
@Mrbankfisherman 3 года назад
@@rileyneufeld7001 that's exactly what it was. unless I shoot it suppressed it function every time.
@rileyneufeld7001
@rileyneufeld7001 3 года назад
@@Mrbankfisherman Ahh and the added backpressure from the suppressor will help the slide velocity as well! There is not alot of inertia with .22 so idk why they would even add the optics cut if it's not 100% reliable with standard velocity ammo. The Taurus tx22 competition has one but the slide is severely weight relieved to keep slide velocity high enough.
@Mrbankfisherman
@Mrbankfisherman 3 года назад
@@rileyneufeld7001 I got videos on my P17 on my channel.
@ronniesanders5506
@ronniesanders5506 28 дней назад
My KelTec P17 would have some function problems with every rounds except Aguila 38 g Super Extras and CCI 36 g Mini Mags.
@markhenderson2896
@markhenderson2896 Год назад
My lcp2 hates stingers
@glencollins7670
@glencollins7670 2 года назад
Mine does too
@antehewins5178
@antehewins5178 2 года назад
The case is to long for that lil gun
@GeographyCzar
@GeographyCzar 2 года назад
I think you're right. I tried it again off-camera about a week ago through both of the reliable magazines and had the same hiccups as in this initial test.
@antehewins5178
@antehewins5178 2 года назад
Swap that gun for a M&P 22 Compact or a Ruger Sr 22 or a TX 22 those eat anything especially the tx
@jersey1470
@jersey1470 2 года назад
Cause the case is to long for that lil gun lol
@mireyasuero1596
@mireyasuero1596 Год назад
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