22 Rmax vs Pioneer 1000?! Drag race, Observations, Specs 

Love the specs love the video surprised actually almost bought the R max

Great review. Thanks!

Very fair and accurate. As the owner of the RMAX in the video, After driving your pioneer, I text my dealer and told him to put my name on the first pioneer 1000-5 base he gets his hands on and I'm trading the rmax.

You can fix the bed rattle for a few cents and probably with stuff laying around your shop. A piece of rubber fuel line cut down the middle and 2 small zip ties on each one on the metal latch completely fixes it.

I'm a Yamaha guy but considering the price difference, I'm leaning towards the Honda. I also like the bench in the Honda and open space seating.

I own an rmax4 and ride with and have driven 3 talonx4 and i have no problem keeping up or going the same places. With the talons being more of a pure sport I expected to but no problem yet. Last ride was mostly blacktop a little over 100 miles 45 to 55mph for most of it and no issues. Hondas transmission is nice and of course it is quieter but one of those talons has already been in the shop with low gear out and in the shop currently for the last 3 weeks for clutch issues. If my belt goes out I can change it myself I would be screwed with a honda transmission without a warranty. I like the talons and Honda in general and wouldn't care to buy one if something happens to my rmax but have had nothing but good luck with mine with almost 3000 miles on it. Ps the jerkiness goes away in sport mode once you get use to the throttle trail and crawl mode decreases throttle response so it's gonna feel sluggish.

Great video! Im stuck between a base rmax4 and a trail pioneer 1000-5. Loved how the honda drives on the road and holding the rpms lower. The yamaha was so loud driving slow. Im a yamaha guy but wish it was not so loud and had a rear locker. I cant decided?

I would think upgrading the suspension and maybe even adding long travel a arms to all corners would make the pioneer almost perfect.

And would be nice to be able to bolt on the Honda approved turbo kit for the talon on the pioneer.

wanted to see if you have ever ran your pioneer up against a older commander 1000 just wondering how they match up? also are there many options for a pioneer performance wise to get closer to that 100hp range like exhaust, tuner etc.... are all pioneers automatic like the talons?

I love my Rmax, but if Honda had better suspension and seats I would have purchased a Pioneer Trail. Love the transmission and turf mode in the Honda but for my riding style I need the Rmax suspension.

Good observation on the weights but if u want to pull bigger tires lighter weights is better

If your an avid trail rider and still want a work horse the rmax is by far your best bet to buy. Super fun and comfortable rig. But if your more into a worker rig and want to give up comfortability go towards the pioneer.

I love my pioneer 1000-5 forest edition.

The changes made to the Pioneer 1000 for 2022 make it far more capable than the previous generation. I am looking forward to your suspension mods as it does ride like a small dump truck

interesting viewpoint comparing them stock. but once on portals, for mudding... wheelbase, wheel speed, hp, lower gearing, travel #s... SEATS....Rmax is worth the cash

I just sold my 2015 Pioneer 700-4 and bought a 2023 Wolverine 850 X2. Things I didn't like about the Pioneer, the riding position, the bench seats and lack of power. The seats were my #1 complaint. Non adjustable upward position seating. Not comfortable for long rides. Can't really comment on the Wolverine because it's winter up here and I haven't had a chance to ride it.

Would you recommend a Teryx 800, maverick, general, or another similar sxs?

I have to disagree about the transmission me and my buddy both got our sxs at the same time I got a 18 x4 and he got a 18 p1k and his clutches have already went out twice and my belt is still stock we drive the same holes. Gear transmission just don’t hold up long term like a belt

If only honda would put more time in ergonomics

The question is…. Can we get the Pioneer to pop a wheelie? Lol… I’ve seen one video with it on two back wheels but not sure how he did it

2:12 Pioneer FTW

Opinions on a 2023 can am defender hd9?

Hey bud it’s me the “wish you where my wife’s boyfriend guy”. Hey my dad is looking at the pioneer 1000 you have but a 6 seater vs the talon 4 seater I have. Buttt his back isn’t 100% we ride the same trails you do and high speed trails when we’re intoxicated. I’m telling him that he’s gonna be disappointed on the the suspension travel and smoother ride that I assume the talon would have which would be way better for his back and way more enjoyable and capable at higher speeds. If what I’m saying is true can you reply with your professional torture testing opinion so I can screenshot for him please. Yours Truly Your side chick’s husband

defender is a solid machine

Have you thought about testing a Kawasaki KRX?

Rmax has a rear sway bar 😢

Pretty biased review, these do not compare what so ever, suspension #s Quality of suspension, seats interior. As for belt driven, the Yamaha will outlast Honda clutches. Plus the Honda comes with dinky tires. If you can’t tell the difference between these machines you should not be doing the comparison.

Take them both mountain climbing you will start to hate the pioneer when u need some power stupid thing shifts if u keep in Manuel it OK. Gears 123 need to be lowered by 50%

i guess you are a honda boy😛

My rmax2 kills rzr1k not sure what yall got going on as far as stability I run my suspension hard if rd riding since mine is street legal if set on soft it will have body roll but I feel a definite biased opinion like polaris guys not admitting they're shit or honda guys loving that wonky shifting just can't get into it but to each their own.

the honda 1000 has the worst bed bushings on the market. squeaks extremely bad. not impressed with mine as well. i hate this thing

I have had my Rmax since 21 all of my buddies run RZRS I go every where they do and have room for a full size cooler and tools and a folding chair haters always going to hate

No comparison YAMAHA all the way the ultramatic transmission/belt tougher than that Honda driveshaft no comparison in two RMAX rides power looks etc hands down than junky pioneer

just the word sport adds 5k$ to any model now days. lol

I love my R maxx I have 2022 le an you can't drive