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Can you tell me the twist rate on that rifle is? I bought a heavy barrel savage in .223 that is a 1 in 9 twist so it likes a little heavier bullet but shoots 1/4 moa groups at 100 yards
@@bassboy99091 I would like to know also since rem 700 ADL's in 223 made since 2010 have been made with 1/7, 1/9, and 1/12 twists That I know of, but wouldn't surprise me if 1/8 and 1/10 barrels had also been made since 2010. I am guessing the paint job is covering the twist rate engraving since I asked last video what twist rate it was and he told me he wasn't sure.
Nice groups! Hey Adam, if I send you a bolt knob extension for that, will you try it out and see what you think? I love them, and some friends of mine are making them. Where do I send it?
55 grain bullets fly fairly well through most of the .223 rifle twists. I have an older 700 VS varmint synthetic (1/12" twist) that gives me 1/2" groups with 50 gr VMax homeloads. A second 700 BDL with Douglas premium 1/7" twist hoping to run 77 gr SMK but got my best results with 62 SMK. It can drive you crazy...Go figure my Ruger 77V, .308 can shoot 110gr VMax 3/4" , 150 gr very well, 168 gr 3/4". Haven't tried anything heavier.
Cheap ammo, cheap rifle, but very respectable results. Modern steel cased ammo can easily go toe-to-toe against brass. And if you are crazy enough, it can be even reloaded once or twice. Barnaul rocks and I know a few people using it for dynamic shooting competitions with great results. Appreciate the test and looking forward for more.
In case you are wondering what the twist rate is, I looked it up. The twist rate on this rifle is 1/12, so it favors 55 gr. bullets. Good video, bud! This shows how accurate 55 gr steel-cased wolf can be with the proper twist rate.
I never thought I would like 223/5.56 but after building my first AR I'm really starting to enjoy it. Don't think I'll ever hunt with it even though our deer here look like jackrabbits with antlers. I prefer the 30cal for that.
I had a similar experience myself, I didn't care for the round, or the AR, until a few years back when I bought an AR, partly as an act of defiance against the political talking heads of that period. Now having spent more time with the cartridge in a couple of different platforms I've grown to really like it. I agree with you regarding deer hunting, I know many kill deer etc. without issue, but I'm always after the fastest and most humane kill and think a 30 caliber can achieve that more consistently and gives a bit more margin for error.
I did a quick search and the information I can find on that particular rifle is that it has a barrel with a 1/12 twist rate. Another quick search tells me that for that twist rate you will get better accuracy from lighter weight bullets, 40gr. to 50gr. But my AR pistol is chambered in 223 Wyld with a 1/8 twist (which is supposed to shoot heavier weights better) and shooting it out to a 100 yds. using 50gr. and up they all pretty much shoot the same. There may be a slight change in elevation, but close enough that there really isn't much of a difference.
You should still hunt deer with the Federal. It's a bullet designed to expand for medium game. The Monarch is probably a hp for varmints and may not do well with penetration.
Did you notice that rifle is getting better group wise, with ammo it likes, the more you shoot it? I think it just needed enough break in rounds shot through it, to season the barrel. I believe, now, the more you shoot it, the better you'll like it.
@@slickdazzler7330 I think my 700 in 223 from the 60s is a 1:14. It was my grandfather's. I don't know what all he shot in it but he reloaded the 52gr Match HP and that is what it shot amazing. That thing was top notch for 1960s and Unertyl 18x scope.
Wtw I didn't know you can still hunt in March in tennessee? Here in nj I think hunting of anything is done by January except farmers who can hunt deer on their land cause they are considered peat to them.
Outstanding video! Thats how you match a load to a rifle right there. You don't trash talk a budget rifle you figure out what it likes and out out shoot all the trash talkers with it.
I bought mine for $189 at Walmart last year! It was such a nice deal and watching these videos made me do some upgrades to it like getting a better vortex scope and a variety of ammo for it!
Good video, nice to see someone using an accurate rifle and that can shoot testing some ammunition. There are too many videos out there of people with AR's (not saying AR's are inaccurate) shooting various ammo and saying it's crap as they shoot a 4-5" group. IME the steel cased ammo can be very accurate and consistent. I've found on a couple of occasions the expensive US made hunting ammo I bought, was not giving me better accuracy when I switch to that after getting roughly sighted in with cheap ammunition. I was expecting the group size to shrink as I switched ammunition, but it didn't really change, however in the main I still prefer to use it for hunting because the bullets themselves will generally perform better on larger game.
My ADL with the 1/12 twist shoots 52 grain bullets the best. I didn't have the opportunity to say this earlier but I did shoot a 60 grain Sierra flat based hollow point over some Winchester 748 and I was duly impressed. I have not been able to duplicate that with other 60 grain bullets. Unfortunately, the 60 grain Sierras are hard to come by.
Hey it’s your camo rifle! This will be a fun video! I love Ammo testing! I love shooting groups with .223, I get really pretty awesome groups with my Ruger American Predator, I’ve taken it out to 400 yds
Looks like we got more sketchy weather heading in for tomorrow ,stay safe brother I like Tula and wolf personally for what I use but I think the federal will probably do best,not so much because it's brass as it's somewhat more consistent , I'm not familiar with monarch at all,never seen that before.
Dang! That Monarch hp did pretty good! If you have the time, maybe do a gel test with that ammo and see how that projectile does. I've seen other gel test video's where the steel cased hp don't expand at all. If you don't care about the expansion, then Barnaul or the Monarch would be some accurate ammo to use.
Definitely surprised that the federal didn't shoot better, but the monarch definitely was super tight , the rifle loved that hollow point. Great video Wtw enjoyed it. Looking forward to you're next.
Awesome video ..you sir are a blessing for people like me who want to go to the range but also want to hold onto most there ammo and don't want to shoot to much of that rare hard to find ammo any more ..
Monarch Ammo is Barnaul ammo just put in a different box for Academy sports, well the steel case at least I dunno who makes their brass 223, weird how it was the worst and best groups even tho its the same ammo.
My 700 Magpul in .308 only shoots brass ammo pretty decent and I've had good results with Federal Power Shok in .308, my guess is it will do well with your 700. This should be interesting.
I was surprised by the Monarch hp. I figured that the Wolf would do fairly well. It's my experience that Wolf 55 grain hp and Remington 55 grain sp will shoot very close to the same. Thanks WTW.
When 223/5.56 ammo was $1 a round a bit back, it was pretty scary to look at my loaded magazines and consider what the ammo plus the magazine was worth at those prices.
Just got a howwa 1500 223 bolt action it’s a awesome small little caliber rifle I’m gonna take it out deer hunting next year instead of my 30-06 probably going to buy a 300 Blackout next year
great video as usual, honestly in a bolt action i would like to see at least 62 grs or more bullets , maybe even 75-77 ones. But i understand we are living in crazy times. I apologize for my bad english and keep bringing really fun videos ;)
Good video thanks for the time and resources putting out a informative video. I been looking at that same rifle I’m gonna get one it’s plenty sufficient groupings for the price imho.
This is how its done people. If one doesn't reload this is how you find your groups. One needs to shoot at the least 10 types of ammo 30 is better.. Shooting 2 or 3 types and not geting it to group and then you declare it a bad rifle. No just a bad owner lol.
I’d have picked the brass stuff but happy to see the Barnaul did so well. Even happier, as where I’m from up north of the border, that Barnaul ammo is pretty readily available and like yourself, I’m cheap. Is it that big of a deal that your rifle was sighted in using the Barnaul?
Just goes to show you that cheap ammo doesn’t mean bad ammo. I’ve gotten several friends to get Barnaul in.223 and 7.63x39. I had never tried it until I saw how well it preformed when you shot it. Barnaul should be sending you free ammo.
Hey bud very nice rifle and cool looking home made paint job! You should try A model 10 savage in 223 Remington as well. Try shooting some 55 grain federal American eagle fmjs. I shoot them out of mine and I put 5 rounds In the size of a dime at a 100 yards with it. The scope I’m using is a Walmart Simmons 4-12x40 mildot scope. Keep up the videos man I love watching them.
Didn't think plinking ammunition would shoot that good. That rifle is grouping now. I chose the Barnaul and the Federal. The Monarch ammo was surprising almost as good as handloads. If they are using ball powder that is impressive now I need to find some boxes pull the bullets weigh the powder charges knowing 55gr fmj SP and HP very little difference in bullet type but the weight and length of the bullet and the powder type speed and charge make a difference I like Hodgdon and Alliant Powder extruded I can use a diamond scale to weigh fractions of a grain of powder for match ammo. The barrel doesn't heat up as much and is much more hot/cold stable less velocity variances with extruded powder ethyl centralite coated vs ball powder. I mentioned before I reverse engineered a load for my .222 Remington with PRVI Partisan ammunition as it shot very well in my Bergara/Shillen Barrel. I'll try a couple of these in my .223. If ya have a reloader here is my favorite recipe that works in several .223s Cases weighed match prepped hand polished with 0000 steel wool. CCI Small Rifle Primers standard not the match type. Remington Brass Cases. Any bullets I am Partial to Hornady 75grand 52grAmax and 69gr Sierra Match Kings Speer TNTs and about any generic 55gr fmj or Spire point lead soft tip. Use 55gr fmj with my recipe. Load to 2.25"oAL Hodgdon Benchmark Powder 22.8 or 23.1 grains. This powder weighs and throws like ball but is tempurature stable and accurate in every caliber I've tested it in. It groups tighter than the Barnaul and is precise will take the BB out of the penny 1 hole.
I sure hope you are able to see I guessed it right. I’ve shot it before and it grouped well, but not that good. I can’t wait to see you do some hunting with that load and let us see the Bullet performance. I know you might have to do a separate video, so it won’t be DEMONIITIZED, but we’d really appreciate seeing the bullet performance. And as always Bro. Awesome video WTW.
