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223 vs 5.56: Can’t Believe The Difference 

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On this episode of Ultimate Barrier Testing, we will be comparing the performance of the 223 Rem to the 5.56 (5.56x45 or 5.56 NATO) on 4 different targets. Each target is worth 25 points (winner takes all), for a grand total of 100 points. Whichever cartridge ends up with the highest score will be the winner. Testing was setup at 50 yards. Thanks for watching!
*These tests are meant for entertainment and educational purposes only. Do not try any of these tests at home! Always verify your setup is rated for and can safely fire any ammunition that you intend to use.
5.56 NATO: WIN 55 gr FMJ M193
223 Rem: WIN 55 gr FMJ

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@teddyperkins3406
@teddyperkins3406 7 месяцев назад
this guys voice doesnt match his face lol
@Xaero_ZRX-33
@Xaero_ZRX-33 6 месяцев назад
FACTS
@michaeldanmosley4169
@michaeldanmosley4169 6 месяцев назад
I've got a match ! Your face & my ..... 😂
@joshuaaustin3233
@joshuaaustin3233 6 месяцев назад
He could be a relation of Ray Romano.
@raspiankiado
@raspiankiado 5 месяцев назад
It's because it isn't his real voice.
@petrichor649
@petrichor649 5 месяцев назад
KGB
@redline870
@redline870 7 месяцев назад
This guys voice was built to be a radio DJ. Sounds like he should be saying “and up next we have some cooool jazz from Miles Davis, right after this quick commercial break”
@davidc5553
@davidc5553 7 месяцев назад
Aaaannnd, next on stage two is Angela. She's a community college student who is almost done with her nursing degree!
@45johngalt
@45johngalt 7 месяцев назад
I thought he sounds like Ray Romano
@impudentdomain
@impudentdomain 7 месяцев назад
Yeah he has a golden deep baritone
@vanim8
@vanim8 7 месяцев назад
Has resonance and timbre but no professional training. His delivery would not make it on radio without some good training and practice. Reminds me of Ray Romano...
@toddlaplanteVT85
@toddlaplanteVT85 7 месяцев назад
​@@45johngaltI was thinking the brother
@vic2265
@vic2265 6 месяцев назад
It matters because the chamber that’s cut inside the barrel of a 223 vs 556 are different. As far as the portion of the chamber that encases the cartridge case, they’re the same; it’s the chamber cut past the case mouth that’s different. A chamber in a 5.56 NATO barrel has a longer throat, which is the segment of the chamber between the case mouth and where the rifling lands taper from nothing to the bore diameter of 0.219-inch/5.56 millimeters. This extra space allows the barrel to withstand the higher pressures of the 5.56 NATO. It’s that simple. What’s not as simple is the interchangeability.It is perfectly safe to shoot 223 Remington ammunition in a 5.56 NATO rifle, but in some cases, precision can be less than stellar. On the other hand, it’s considered unsafe to shoot 5.56 NATO ammunition in a 223 Remington rifle. You see, the 5.56 NATO cartridge will produce about 62,000 psi in a 5.56 NATO chamber, and that’s OK. But in the 223 Remington chamber with the tighter throat, pressures can exceed 70,000. That’s not OK... Certified Gunsmith here and if you dont believe me do the research you will see for yourself.
@oldschooldude8370
@oldschooldude8370 4 месяца назад
Absolutely correct. Throat erosion & over pressure is real.
@nicksmacro
@nicksmacro 4 месяца назад
Totally, it's all in how you're chambered kid...
@joewoodchuck3824
@joewoodchuck3824 4 месяца назад
Well put.
@brandonwilson896
@brandonwilson896 3 месяца назад
as someone who has worked for a self defense and rifle fighting school and seen millions of rounds go through our loaner rifles i can without a doubt say that it doesnt matter not one bit.
@lowcountrydawg2525
@lowcountrydawg2525 2 месяца назад
Not always true. The Ruger Mini-14 is an exception, going all the way back to the 180-series guns.
@respectfullydecline973
@respectfullydecline973 7 месяцев назад
Leaving a message just to say I love how your video just spat out the facts. No superfluous yacking! Great format…interesting and efficient. Thank you
@ice-xv1hi
@ice-xv1hi 7 месяцев назад
This guy is very entertaining. Hope his channel grows.
@HWG-wm8ld
@HWG-wm8ld 7 месяцев назад
He is definitely stepping up the comedy, the waiter bit…
@jumpercable20
@jumpercable20 7 месяцев назад
I agree, he has the voice of a radio disc jockey.
@davidstjames_
@davidstjames_ 7 месяцев назад
Please don't take this the wrong way, I do like the channel and I often learn new things from it. The main problem I see here, is that he fired both rounds from the same rifle, most likely chambered in 5.56. Although the dimensional differences between the two rounds are small, they are different. The main difference is the shape of the cartridge, mostly the length and angles in the bend of the throat. This is why some people will say that a .223 is more accurate when fired from a .223 chamber, or from a Wiley chamber, why arguably is the best of both worlds when it's desired to use both of these rounds interchangeably in the same rifle without barrel changes.
@hambone950
@hambone950 3 месяца назад
do you think the throat angle would have mattered? dudes shooting at pretty much max velocity while being safe.
@meanman6992
@meanman6992 7 месяцев назад
First. Difference is powder load and the chamber they’re fired in more than anything. Barrel length of .223Rem is usually 24” barrel as well. Where as 5.56 is usually 20”. Jackets for M193 are supposed to also be different as well as the mean average and max spread of velocity.
@asahearts1
@asahearts1 7 месяцев назад
Right on
@donwyoming1936
@donwyoming1936 7 месяцев назад
Exactly. Velocities are from two different barrel lengths. Jackets on military grade projectiles are typically thicker than civilian equivalents. It's quite possible the lead alloy in the core is different too. Sometimes, even USGI ammo will have bimetal jackets.
@unclefreedom213
@unclefreedom213 7 месяцев назад
​@donwyoming1936 this is all kinds of false
@asahearts1
@asahearts1 7 месяцев назад
@@unclefreedom213 Please elaborate
@HWG-wm8ld
@HWG-wm8ld 7 месяцев назад
Definitely false. Too many cnn reporters on here.
@JohnDoe-ud2cc
@JohnDoe-ud2cc 7 месяцев назад
223 is loaded with different powder. It’s a commercial round made for varmit hunting. It’s designed for 24” barrels to were 556 is loaded with faster powder designed for short 14” barrels.
@ferrontirocia3185
@ferrontirocia3185 7 месяцев назад
Congratulations! Greetings from Brazil.
@sirvile
@sirvile 6 месяцев назад
In determining velocities .223 is fired from a 24" barrel and 5.56 is fired from a 20" barrel. So, if the barrel length is off the velocities are going to be off as well.
@nickknight8065
@nickknight8065 7 месяцев назад
That 6x6 pressure treated lumber tells you all you need to know about residential walls stopping rifle rounds, which is.... they might as well not even be there.
@jumpercable20
@jumpercable20 7 месяцев назад
The 5.56 doesn't have to meet SAMI standards, so the pressure of the 5.56 is somewhat higher than the 2.23. 5.56 ammo can reach pressures of up to 70,000 psi where the 2.23 only achieves 52,000 to 55,000 psi. That can make a difference in velocities.
@surfstarcc1
@surfstarcc1 7 месяцев назад
Terry the torso is a great addition to the family.
@jimidharma
@jimidharma 7 месяцев назад
You have the voice of Kermit the Frog's dad on steroids! Great vid!
@johngalt1257
@johngalt1257 7 месяцев назад
Good video. I like 5.56 better, but its interesting to see that the .223 is only 85 fps slower. Both are good cartridges. Entertaining video, nonetheless. Subbed.
@HWG-wm8ld
@HWG-wm8ld 7 месяцев назад
Why do you like it better?
@kayveteran9815
@kayveteran9815 7 месяцев назад
Terri the torso... 😂 Love it ❤
@jasonjacobs6948
@jasonjacobs6948 6 месяцев назад
The kid lost me when he started talking about muzzle velocities and then flashed numbers for muzzle energies. 😂
@guloguloguy
@guloguloguy 6 месяцев назад
WOW!!!!! THIS WAS AN INTERESTING SERIES OF COMPARISON TEST TARGETS!!! GOOD WORK!!!!
@Jdavid1976
@Jdavid1976 7 месяцев назад
One day I hope you get a super slo-mo camera for the tests. Could call it the banana-cam 2000 😂
@crashtastic342
@crashtastic342 7 месяцев назад
The only “difference” between what manufacturers can call.223 & 5.56 is how pressure and velocity is measured. .223 rem is SAAMI spec with pressure measured with the transducer on the side of the case and velocity measured at 15’ from the muzzle. 5.56 nato pressure is measured at the head of the case mouth and velocity is measured at 78 feet. That’s it.
@blackhawk7r221
@blackhawk7r221 7 месяцев назад
Well, that, and the staked primers, thicker brass webbing, .002” longer neck, and longer OAL in comparison to a true .223. My old 60’s bolt .223 has a proper chamber and will not feed 5.56. If you do jam it in, once fired, you force the bolt open, slip off the extractor from the case head, and have to rod the empty case out. Leade distance is longer with a 5.56. But with today’s muddled market, civilian ammo has pretty much morphed into the same.
@crashtastic342
@crashtastic342 7 месяцев назад
@@blackhawk7r221 I’m not talking about chamber dimensions, only what is required to label the loaded ammunition either 5.56 or .223 rem. Even the difference in brass and staking the primer doesn’t matter.
@HWG-wm8ld
@HWG-wm8ld 7 месяцев назад
A gun geek says what?
@ElAcheErre
@ElAcheErre 4 месяца назад
If you missed this video, you can can hear him on WNBC FM 94.5! Go young Howard Stern!! 😂
@_XR40_
@_XR40_ 7 месяцев назад
12:06 "...Which can make a pretty big difference..." - Except in any _functional_ terms in any of the tests you showed.
@joeryerson9295
@joeryerson9295 7 месяцев назад
It looks like you used the same rifle for both types of ammo, you need a barrel made for 5.56 and one for .223. The head spacing is made to lower tolerances for the 5.56 to accommodate inconsistent bullet seating in the cartridge; either from factory or from the vibration of automatic fire. All that being said I would expect the 5.56 round to out perform the .223.
@languagesource355
@languagesource355 4 месяца назад
So... Jesus walked on water, Chuck Norris swims on dry land, but 223 tumbles through lumber. I feel like there's a takeaway here, but I can't quite articulate it 🙃
@RipRoaringGarage
@RipRoaringGarage 7 месяцев назад
Some really torque-y bullets!
@wolfaja755
@wolfaja755 7 месяцев назад
I’d like to see steel core 7.62 vs green tip 5.56. I think we all know 5.56 would win but not a lot is know about the steel core 7.62 when it comes to performance compared to other steel core rounds.
@whatevs4531
@whatevs4531 7 месяцев назад
The moment you showed the .223 and the 556 i could clearly see the difference in length
@seannemo8076
@seannemo8076 7 месяцев назад
There's a reason sandbags are the go-to for defensive positions.
@bob_mosavo
@bob_mosavo 7 месяцев назад
Thanks 👍
@adquinta
@adquinta 3 месяца назад
Maybe switch to a 4” or 5” box. Could make things more interesting. Or vary it for pistols and rifles.
@Wildturkey10121
@Wildturkey10121 7 месяцев назад
I guess that's why they say it is ok to shoot 223 through a 556 and not the other way around.
@brucebaxter6923
@brucebaxter6923 7 месяцев назад
Suggestion? Can you use the volume of steel removed in the mild steel instead of the depth? I feel it gives a better feel for the power of the round, I do acknowledge that depth is better representative of effectiveness as no penetration is no use.
@jefferysmith9320
@jefferysmith9320 7 месяцев назад
With a little training you would make a good media announcer. You have the voice for the job.
@francisdrake8742
@francisdrake8742 3 месяца назад
I can't help picturing Ray Romano every time I check your videos
@TheDeadmandillon
@TheDeadmandillon 7 месяцев назад
I'm disappointed that you didn't use another M855, as well as another M855A1 on that 3/8ths plate. However, I understand that ammo ain't cheap.
@arminiuschatti2287
@arminiuschatti2287 7 месяцев назад
The general rule is .223 SP for flesh, M855A1 or M995 for hardened.
@Grooove_e
@Grooove_e 7 месяцев назад
M995 is virtually unobtainable for 99.9% of people
@joemahaney8023
@joemahaney8023 5 месяцев назад
Is Tom Bodett related to you? I do alot of voice impersonations and first thing that came to mind. Also great video breakdown of ballistics, liked and new sub'd 👌
@jeffreyrobinson3555
@jeffreyrobinson3555 7 месяцев назад
Ok, I understand gun guys playing with the meaningless…. I do it all the time. I hunt with traditional muzzleloader, flintlock smoothbore round ball. Worse possible gun, almost, and worst possible projectile. And what you get is dead deer. The hundred and fifty feet per second will give you little bit flatter shot but your target is venison on the table, even if you halted this power In the long answer I would have to say these two are identical
@georgeelder8415
@georgeelder8415 7 месяцев назад
Terry thee torso might appreciate a T-shirt! ps you could check for fragments!
@ed0c
@ed0c 7 месяцев назад
i would love to see how 223 Wylde holds up too
@williamobrien6340
@williamobrien6340 7 месяцев назад
I've noticed on the 5556 did the second round bounce back and go into the piece of wood
@MizeryScratcher
@MizeryScratcher 3 месяца назад
multiple rounds in a 2 inch group each one pulverizing the wood for the next round so eventually one goes through
@mikewatmough1312
@mikewatmough1312 22 дня назад
Hey banana ballistics you gotta sing ring of fire by Johnny Cash 😂
@FrancisSullivan-j7t
@FrancisSullivan-j7t 7 месяцев назад
Outstanding channel,SUBSCRIBED!!!!!!
@w8biatvrepeater638
@w8biatvrepeater638 7 месяцев назад
When he retires from RU-vid, I wouldn’t be surprised if he were to become a TV announcer!
@josephdevuono4231
@josephdevuono4231 7 месяцев назад
Loose sand absorbs the energy of bullets very well. Mother Earth is the best damned bullet stopper.
@martyc1533
@martyc1533 7 месяцев назад
Great Video! Thank You.
@Halphbaked210
@Halphbaked210 7 месяцев назад
Point blank is interesting.... cause the rounds are designed to destabilize and tumble
@beng7844
@beng7844 7 месяцев назад
1st problem was using Winchester ammo to try to get consistent data 😂
@Adamtherealboss
@Adamtherealboss 7 месяцев назад
Let’s turn it around 🎵
@YackZork-fw9nl
@YackZork-fw9nl 7 месяцев назад
sounds like squidward from spongebob...good video thoe
@redneckgardner6247
@redneckgardner6247 4 месяца назад
Is this all different ammo ? NO, it's the same and so is the ones with a 223 head stamp>>>>>>>>>3.56 g (55 gr) XM193 FMJBT 993 m/s (3,260 ft/s) 1,755 J (1,294 ft⋅lbf) 4 g (62 gr) SS109 FMJBT 948 m/s (3,110 ft/s) 1,797 J (1,325 ft⋅lbf) 4 g (62 gr) M855A1 FMJBT 961 m/s (3,150 ft/s) 1,859 J (1,371 ft⋅lbf) 4.1 g (63 gr) DM11 FMJBT 856 m/s (2,810 ft/s) 1,796 J (1,325 ft⋅lbf)
@Courageous_Lion
@Courageous_Lion 7 месяцев назад
SEARCH: Those Forgotten and Ignored 13 Words
@chrish1585
@chrish1585 7 месяцев назад
There is a reason the military uses "sand bag" bunker positions. Sand stops everything!
@HWG-wm8ld
@HWG-wm8ld 7 месяцев назад
False
@mortemanku5279
@mortemanku5279 7 месяцев назад
Do 762x51 vs 762x54r
@JemiloII
@JemiloII Месяц назад
So was the barrel rated for 556 or 223? Or did you have 2 identical guns, one for 556 and the other for 223?
@a.joegevara3519
@a.joegevara3519 7 месяцев назад
I think the advantage, as far as accuracy, goes to the 223...
@josephbrian4518
@josephbrian4518 7 месяцев назад
My biggest takeaway from the videos with sand is that I see why we still use sandbags
@nomadlight
@nomadlight 7 месяцев назад
lol
@fabiolean
@fabiolean 6 месяцев назад
100% It compresses when struck, makes a great barrier.
@MiaogisTeas
@MiaogisTeas 6 месяцев назад
Filling the walls of my compound as we speak! In Minecraft, of course.
@liberty9348
@liberty9348 6 месяцев назад
It is EXTREMELY effective at stopping all kinds of serious stuff. During the war in Iraq, we would fill "Hesco Bastions" with sand off the ground and put them around our FOB (Forward Operating Base) to create a barrier. It's just a metal cage with this fabric-type material that will hold the sand inside. They can stop mortar rounds, artillery, up to 30mm weapons, massive trucks, high explosives, etc. and it's just sand. Pretty impressive stuff. Saved me a couple times.
@_Chris_SouthwestDetroit
@_Chris_SouthwestDetroit 5 месяцев назад
Facts bro, still surprised me that sand can hold a lot of builds in a close space. Just imagine a whole all built of sand
@stevenflores5549
@stevenflores5549 7 месяцев назад
The velocity on the boxes is usually with 20” barrel on 556 and 24” barrel on 223. The 223 is marketed as a bolt gun varmit cartridge.
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE 7 месяцев назад
Indeed This is true!
@juhanivalimaki5418
@juhanivalimaki5418 7 месяцев назад
I was about to mention the same, although I would take the lengths further down, at least for 5.56. Usually 5.56 barrels are 14"-16". Then the higher pressure/bigger powder load on 5.56 cannot compensate for the lot longer .223 barrel used for the data on the boxes.
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE 7 месяцев назад
@@juhanivalimaki5418 I've seen upwards of 3,500 fps from M193 coming out of my 22" bolt gun, so they still do gain velocity. :D
@terrarecon
@terrarecon 7 месяцев назад
@@juhanivalimaki5418 current popular barrel length trends are are outliers for the original design of these cartridges. I get your point. But, whatever results these tests produce with 18 to 20" barrels, shorter barrels by default are going produce worse not better.
@hubertET
@hubertET 7 месяцев назад
As a member of the "disarmed for your own safety" society in the EU, I enjoy the additional info provided by such comments. Sadly - firearms is a "book only" hobby for me :(
@emacstac
@emacstac 7 месяцев назад
I'm glad we could help out again my friend! Excellent Video as always! That M855a1 almost made it through that sand ;) | if you need more for testing, just let me know!
@saltymofo5870
@saltymofo5870 7 месяцев назад
He won’t shoot it on steel, he will just put it on his only fans page😤
@emacstac
@emacstac 7 месяцев назад
@@saltymofo5870 If he wanted a bunch to shoot at different steels etc etc, if be happy to provide them.
@SeymourPettigrew
@SeymourPettigrew 7 месяцев назад
Does that round perform good with a shorter barrel? Let’s say a 7.5” barrel?
@dkhill27
@dkhill27 7 месяцев назад
​@emacstacticalcom4105 Are those rounds for sale? I would like to test some out on different types of metal and wood
@chrisgualtieri
@chrisgualtieri 7 месяцев назад
Seriously Emacs thank you SO MUCH for giving him your ammo for the reviews. You all are freaking amazing. The next time I need something, I’ll be checking your website first.
@KingOfChaos213
@KingOfChaos213 5 месяцев назад
I love this version of Ray Romano great job.
@stanleysteamer1816
@stanleysteamer1816 2 месяца назад
Haha I hear a lil Plankton too!
@purplemonster2239
@purplemonster2239 Месяц назад
😅😂. Yes. Definitely. Lol
@jondavidmcnabb
@jondavidmcnabb 7 месяцев назад
As a former grunt, I can attest to my love of sandbags and a well built fighting position. When shit starts gettin "real" the dirt start to "appeal"!!!!!
@bryanst.martin7134
@bryanst.martin7134 7 месяцев назад
I bet wet sand is even better?
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 7 месяцев назад
Oh, that sweet, sweet earth...
@TUKByV
@TUKByV 7 месяцев назад
​@@bryanst.martin7134Mass and density. Water filling in the tiny spaces between grains of sand should help.
@bryanst.martin7134
@bryanst.martin7134 7 месяцев назад
@@TUKByV It should also reduce the sand spilling out of the hole. There is another form of barrier, Glycol mixed with Fumed silica. Flexible till struck at high velocity, then it instantly crystalizes.
@TUKByV
@TUKByV 7 месяцев назад
@@bryanst.martin7134 Oh, yeah. Heard about that some years ago. Did anyone market it?
@albundy7459
@albundy7459 7 месяцев назад
Most reloading manuals have their test rifles at a 22-24” bolt gun for .223. That’s why it has the higher velocity. 5.56 is USUALLY tested out of 20” M16. I’m sure there are some manuals out there that might test out of a bolt gun. I haven’t read every manual to be 100% sure.
@wolfofmagdalene92
@wolfofmagdalene92 7 месяцев назад
WELL GET TOOO IT SON! lololol jokes aside that's a good point
@mikefarley5358
@mikefarley5358 7 месяцев назад
Great point. Size matters
@DieselRamcharger
@DieselRamcharger 7 месяцев назад
they are tested out of a testing action, not a gun per say.
@ft90702
@ft90702 7 месяцев назад
Really says something about the quality of your videos that we're here in 2024 watching 5.56 v. .223 videos and enjoying them.
@martysherwood8853
@martysherwood8853 7 месяцев назад
223 is not annealed looks as your 223 is a reload or not a 223.check it out for your self 😮
@lutherpayne9957
@lutherpayne9957 7 месяцев назад
Unless you sling a lot bigger and higher velocity projectile at that sand box, you are just proving the practice of sand bagging for use in personal protection while in a fighting positions.
@IsaacNelson-h9o
@IsaacNelson-h9o 7 месяцев назад
I wonder if this guy's voice would sound any different if he tried Helium ? Hahaha! Great video
@waylonmccrae3546
@waylonmccrae3546 7 месяцев назад
Or what if he was already on Helium ?? 😳
@spencerricketts8025
@spencerricketts8025 7 месяцев назад
His voice is just pure bass frequencies without it@@waylonmccrae3546
@DareToBeDeviant
@DareToBeDeviant 7 месяцев назад
He takes a few gulps of Sulfur Hexafluoride between takes. The stuff would make your mother sound like James Earl Jones.@@waylonmccrae3546
@Stefano_8732
@Stefano_8732 7 месяцев назад
@@waylonmccrae3546lol
@bobborlog1677
@bobborlog1677 6 месяцев назад
Now that's a test he needs to do
@macumezahn
@macumezahn 2 месяца назад
As a vet and former range officer, I really like the AR- family of weapons. I personally noticed a big difference when shooting the .223 (it seemed to jam way more often) and in alignment with the tumbling you saw in your test, I saw big differences on shots that were anywhere over 100m. I like to fine tune my rifle sights to about 100-300m with no scope, and it was simply impossible to do with those rounds. I switched back to 556 and no problems. Please don't jump on me, its just a personal observation guys, I don't know the science behind it...EDIT: It appears VIC2265 has much of the answer...thank you.
@diver0129
@diver0129 Месяц назад
This was my thought. I think the benefits of 556 might show a little out at a distance. But is it enough to really matter?
@CarlSmithers
@CarlSmithers Месяц назад
@@diver0129 SAME. DAMN. CARTRIDGE.
@MrAlohaWildMan
@MrAlohaWildMan 16 дней назад
I second the jamming part on the AR platform with the 223 vs 556. Heard you can compensate with adjustments to the recirc gas pressure and buffer weights but I was just thinking- why not just use .556 rounds and eliminate the problem without gun surgery, ya know?
@diver0129
@diver0129 15 дней назад
@@CarlSmithers It's NOT. Thus the comparison. The differences are minor, but they are there.
@randomness72838
@randomness72838 7 месяцев назад
Man, ray romano putting out some good content. Subscribed.
@DieselRamcharger
@DieselRamcharger 7 месяцев назад
it seems like both rounds were fired out of a 5.56 chamber. the difference in 556 and 223 is the throat length. 556 has a nominal pressure of 55,000psi. 556 in a 223 chamber is 65,000psi {unsafe} 223 fired from a 556 chamber is 45,000psi {under performs}
@guins99
@guins99 7 месяцев назад
What are you, a scientist?
@DieselRamcharger
@DieselRamcharger 7 месяцев назад
@@guins99 Science is for everyone.
@rebeljamieson3414
@rebeljamieson3414 7 месяцев назад
Chambering makes a big difference with these. I can absolutely confirm a difference with running 5.56 chamber along side .223 wylde. The velocity difference shows at point of impact.
@DieselRamcharger
@DieselRamcharger 7 месяцев назад
@@rebeljamieson3414 yeah i didnt get it for a long time. the 223 chamber is "tighter" and "shorter" so it makes for a more accurate rifle, and the 556 is "looser" for reliability. Thats why 556 is loaded hotter to make up for the big ole chamber.
@JayDee-kw8oz
@JayDee-kw8oz 7 месяцев назад
This debate is because of lazy/amateur people. Mostly lazy. And also military complex, thinking everything military must be better, no. The 223 is more tight and thus accurate. The advantage 556 has is that u can shoot both rounds out of 556 rifle but only 223 out of 223 rifle. I understand this is too complex for some.
@SHadowKillerDj
@SHadowKillerDj 7 месяцев назад
I believe it's "Time to Grind!" Some of the rust off them wangs my good sir lol
@bananaballistics
@bananaballistics 7 месяцев назад
New segment called “it’s time to flap disk” lol
@bryanst.martin7134
@bryanst.martin7134 7 месяцев назад
@@bananaballistics Permatex makes a rust converter in a spray can. 🙂
@andrewb6
@andrewb6 7 месяцев назад
Evaporust works quite well, and is non-toxic, supposedly. Probably best to not drink it. It works faster when a little warmer, but if you have the time, just let them soak for a couple days. I am sure you can find videos explaining it in more depth.
@abrb1223
@abrb1223 5 месяцев назад
@@andrewb6 Can confirm, not tasty but quite effective!
@andrew86fl
@andrew86fl 7 месяцев назад
Good testing. I still think the difference is negligible and 223 is cheaper than 556.
@Bubben246
@Bubben246 7 месяцев назад
To quote some old guntuber, "Is there a difference? Yeah. Is it enough of a difference to MAKE a difference? You be the judge."
@jasono2139
@jasono2139 6 месяцев назад
It's really not though... if you want for a sale they're essentially the same price.
@OrochiD2
@OrochiD2 7 месяцев назад
Seriously, what is wrong with basically everyone in these comments? Does no one else see the stupidity in testing the penetrative properties of a round, by firing it through a f***ing tree first? Of course one key-holed, when you’re trying to knock something down, you want a bullet to tumble inside their body. This causes the bullet TOO NOT over penatrate, staying in the body, and causing the most internal damage. If you want to test its ability against steel armor, then don’t fire through a small tree first! And he fires rounds into a ballistic ‘looking’ torso, that is in fact a hard, stale, oversized Gummy Bear! And then says, “less dramatic than I thought”. I am sure in assuming this person has never shot a living thing. If he had, he would immediately realize this entire video is ridiculous.
@patrickmichael8655
@patrickmichael8655 7 месяцев назад
Is that really this dudes voice? Is James Earl Jones his dad
@phoenixnfa
@phoenixnfa 7 месяцев назад
plugged this data into a ballistic chart. the difference in drop is 4.68 inches at 500 yards.
@WisdomShortsEntertainment
@WisdomShortsEntertainment 7 месяцев назад
One of the best voices I've heard on YT in a long time. You could could have an amazing career in voice acting or radio.
@EIBBOR2654
@EIBBOR2654 6 месяцев назад
There is little to no difference between 5.56 and .223 brass. Military brass is made at a slightly higher standard and can be slightly thicker below the neck. It will also have water proofing and a crimped primer. According to several books, one being Cartridges of the world and an old Remington ammunition book I have, the 5.56 in its original loading made for the military, is loaded with a hotter power than the .223. You can shoot .223 for a rifle chambered for the 5.56. But you can't shoot 5.56 ammo in a rifle chambered for .223. However the muzzle velocity of both types of ammo will be close to the same fired from rifles chambered for those rounds. The real difference is in the way they cut the chamber for the 5.56. There is more free bore, a slightly longer length to the throat in 5.56 chambered rifles. This allows some of the gas to pass by the bullet before it engaged the rifling. That keeps the pressure to a safe level. There is no free bore in a rifle that is chambered for the .223. So firing 5.56 ammo in a chamber for the .223 will spike pressures above safe levels. Most newer rifles are chambered for both .223 & 5.56, meaning that there is some free boring in the throat of those rifles and can vary between manufactures. Some will use the same reamer for the 5.56 chamber. Others will use one somewhere in between, about half of the free bore of the normal 5.56. Rifles chambered for both cartridges can have large velocity differences between rifles firing ammo from the same box. Some manufactures will use a worn chamber reamer longer than they should that can raise pressures and velocities. The best way to do a test like this would be to use one rifle chambered for the .223 and one chambered for the 5.56 to show the real difference between the two. So I hate to put it this way, but this test, fired from the same rifle chambered for both the 5.53 & .223 is really meaningless. If you were to use another rifle chambered for both cartridges you could get wildly different results. One last thing, military ammo must follow strict guide lines. They can't be like hunting ammo, soft point, hollow point, made to tumble or explosive type ammo. Using those types of ammo are considered war crimes. The reason for this is to stop mutilating wounds that can't be repaired or could make it so a Soldier would have a long painful death, so military ammo is solid non expanding type. That is so someone wounded has a chance to be removed and repaired. At least that is the way it is suppose to be. Sounds a bit weird, you go to war to kill, but you want the wounded to have a chance. Here is one link to show what I was talking about on the free boring: trajectoryarms.com/2021/02/04/ar-15-common-chamber-issues-neck-and-throat/ This link shows the difference between the three chamber cuts: www.m-guns.com/tool_new.php?product=reamer This is from the same link above but shows a cut away of the three chamber throats. They should be zoomed to 400% to show detail. If not you can download the picture and enlarge it. www.m-guns.com/photos//aeq_small.jpg There are many other links you can find on the throat issues and free boring. Google M-16 or Ar-15 free boring.
@bernarddavis1050
@bernarddavis1050 Месяц назад
The idea behind the adoption of the sub-calibre 5.56mm NATO round is rather less noble than you intimate. The intention (among other motives) was to inflict serious wounds rather than kill outright, the thinking being that the care of a wounded soldier costs your enemy far more in time, resources and manpower than simply burying a corpse and replacing it with a fresh live body. Those are the cynical calculations indulged in my our military leaders. I don't know how it worked out in practice though. It always sounded like the thinking of an accountant rather than a real soldier.
@EIBBOR2654
@EIBBOR2654 Месяц назад
@@bernarddavis1050 This was some of the reasoning back in the 1960s. The way I heard it was that the round was mostly meant to wound. That way it would take 3 combatants off the battle field. The wounded man and two to carry him. I don't know who came up with that and I think it might have been like a selling point. The US Army had adopted the M-14, basically a modified WWII M-1 rifle that fired an intermediate round. A shortened .30-06 that Winchester made. The .308 in civilian caliber and the 7.62 X 51 mm for the military. (The .30-06 would be in metric 7.62 X 63 mm.) This happened back in 1957 and they worked hard to make it the standard NATO round. Being shorter, Soldiers could carry more ammo. Eugene Stoner made the now famous ArmaLite AR-15 (developed into the M-16) as a light rifle in a .22 caliber (.223) he wanted the Army to adopt. But the US Army had just adopted the M-14 and didn't think a .22 caliber was good for combat use. They really didn't want it and tried to fail it in tests. They had a tough time getting the NATO Nations to adpot the 7.62mm round and those countries had to make manufacturing facilities to adapt costing them big money. Money they really didn't have. Remember this was just after WWII and all of Europe was broke and trying to rebuild their bombed and burned out countries. Now in less than 10 years after they all adopted it, they want everyone to stop and addopt this new 5.56 mm costing the NATO Nations a ton of money to retool the newly built amao facilities. This also meant that small arms Companies would have to design and retool to manufacture new rifles for this new NATO round Add to it that Gen La May USAF Commander wanted the new rifle but with some mods. So you can see the problems and total cluster F---- the US Military was facing. There were pros and cons to both rifles and ammo. I'll probably get over 1000 replies about how the AR is the best rifle ever made by those that don't know anything about the development and problems with the M-16. However Stoner was in luck with the Kennedy (JFK) /Johnson (LBJ) admin with the bean counter Robert McNamara who was secretary of defense from 1961 to 1968. He basically mandated that the US Army adopt the new rifle and ammo. But to answer the second part of your question about how that worked out by reducing the manpower on the battle field. In reality it did nothing. We were involved heavily in the Vietnam war and they didn't play like the Europeans. If one of their soldiers got wounded they left them where they lay and if they were still alive when they came back they might care for them. One would have thought the US Military learned that lesson during WWII fighting in the Pacific. I have books on the development of military arms and served the military, though not in combat. But I also have many older friends that did serve in combat in Korea through Vietnam that have experience with those weapons. Including may friends that were in the the recent wars. But things change and so do people and weapons. There is always someone that tries to come up with the newest, greatest and shinny toy for the Military hoping to make it big. So the quest for the perfect killing weapon or machine will never end. At least for the foreseeable future. The 5.56 used in the current M-4 mod of the M-16 is being replaced, Ironically by a larger caliber, the 6.8 X 51 mm. Almost back to the 7.65 X 51 mm. This will becom the new NATO round. Don't get me wrong, we need the military and I loved my 40 year career, Active and Guard. Even at a young age I knew there would always be some idiot that wants to rule the world. Those young men and women in our Military deserve a lot of respect. They are the best in the world. During my time I served with the most talented, creative and smartest people I've ever known. The old Military saying "If it is necessary, it will be accomplished" is shown in the US people and the best are in the military. We just have to stop the woke idiots that want to bring the US into what Europe or the USSR became and stop this wokeness! Y'all stay safe.
@bernarddavis1050
@bernarddavis1050 Месяц назад
@@EIBBOR2654 Thanks for that information; much appreciated. I wasn't going to specifically mention that cold-blooded accountant McNamara, but you did it for me. The evil that b... did...
@thomastevelde8547
@thomastevelde8547 4 дня назад
Wow ,now I know why mi barrel is stamped 223 and the owner’s manual states do not use 5.56
@geegaw14
@geegaw14 7 месяцев назад
Thanks so much for the extra half second of screen time on the bullet stats at the beginning of the video. So much easier to read.
@firstnamerequiredlastnameo3473
@firstnamerequiredlastnameo3473 7 месяцев назад
Temporary work around: Download the video and replay it much slower on your computer. It helps sometimes.
@zachdemand4508
@zachdemand4508 7 месяцев назад
didn't you hear? RU-vid introduced this fantastic feature. Its called pausing. all you have to do i click/tap in the middle of the video and it stops playing.
@michaelr5606
@michaelr5606 7 месяцев назад
@@zachdemand4508😂
@spoonkahoon
@spoonkahoon 7 месяцев назад
​@@firstnamerequiredlastnameo3473If you click on the cog thingy on the video you can change the playback speed
@slayer8actual
@slayer8actual 7 месяцев назад
@@zachdemand4508 A pause feature? It's probably an add-on that costs an arm and a leg. No thanks, I'll just learn to read faster.
@Nosferatu1022
@Nosferatu1022 7 месяцев назад
I'd really love it if you could keep the chrono data up longer on screen. It's too fast to read averages and ft lbs and not super easy to rewind RU-vid to pause it. Thanks for the videos! Love em
@adamcanterbury
@adamcanterbury 7 месяцев назад
That was I was thinking and my only critique 😊
@cometcal2
@cometcal2 5 месяцев назад
I had to go back and freeze the frame
@AniwayasSong
@AniwayasSong 7 месяцев назад
I've always UNDER-appreciated the finer points of ballistics, even though I've been shooting/hunting from the age of '4', and am also a USMC Vet with two tours under my cover. For myself, accuracy has always been the most important thing, and then choosing the suitable caliber vs whatever target/game/enemy I expected to face. Seeing videos like *THIS* one, that clearly shows the nuances and why they matter, is one of the best things about YT/the Internet, IMHO! Thank you for all your hard work and in sharing it with us/the world! :-D
@goodbyemr.anderson5065
@goodbyemr.anderson5065 7 месяцев назад
Although this channel is ggod, there are a few that are many times better. At this point however, its not the stats that matter and the personality that people want. This is a younger channel, and will grow because the content is good. Once banana becomes more comfortable, and his knowledge expands, as well as funds, there will be no limit to his testing.
@stopstealingmyname5794
@stopstealingmyname5794 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for the hard work in losing to farmers!
@AniwayasSong
@AniwayasSong 7 месяцев назад
@@stopstealingmyname5794 'Losing to farmers.' Care to explain exactly WTF you meant by that, or is your utter lack of English language and Reading Comprehension insurmountable?
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 7 месяцев назад
The difference may help when the varmints are behind a barrier. The M193 seems just a bit better at converting cover to just concealment.
@oif3vetk9
@oif3vetk9 7 месяцев назад
@@AniwayasSong they are a troll. Don't give them any more of your time.
@vanamee692
@vanamee692 6 месяцев назад
I thought they were the same cartridge with just different names. Now you say they are actually different, but why not tell us what the difference is?!!!! I presume it's the powder.
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE 7 месяцев назад
Bravo! Good Show!!
@19derrick77
@19derrick77 7 месяцев назад
You’re saying the projectiles are the same… So 100 ft./s is the only difference between going through that plate and not going through it? I guess that’s possible… Are you sure the projectiles are the same?
@PoliticallyInsensitive
@PoliticallyInsensitive 7 месяцев назад
There was an 85fps difference. "Is that enough difference to make a difference? You be the judge."
@Kevin-wy8kc
@Kevin-wy8kc 7 месяцев назад
i bet u can do a killer Hank Hill impression
@jaysmith2151
@jaysmith2151 7 месяцев назад
Just found your channel it's probably the only gun channel I wasn't subscribed to but now I am.
@cocodojo
@cocodojo 6 месяцев назад
Hmm, and now it looks like you're "good to go" 👍
@GIJO
@GIJO 7 месяцев назад
Do 5.7 vs 9 on your test, please?
@Sun_Downer
@Sun_Downer 7 месяцев назад
This mans voice is not real
@GastonJane-wh4dr
@GastonJane-wh4dr 7 месяцев назад
I think he is Ray Romano's son.
@gregheitland4392
@gregheitland4392 7 месяцев назад
Are we ready to Rumble😅
@christianb4053
@christianb4053 5 месяцев назад
He sounds just like Howard Stern....close your eyes and listen carefully!!! I swear, it's actually Stern😅
@alexolivarez732
@alexolivarez732 4 месяца назад
There was a cashier at our H.E.B. in my town and the guy used to talk like this. I would always get a kick out of it. I think his was that steroid voice though.
@wadesafool
@wadesafool 7 месяцев назад
Underrated channel!!
@frederickhenneke4660
@frederickhenneke4660 7 месяцев назад
I load both cartridges and with a little tinkering I got .223 up to 3050 out of a 16" 1/8 twist AR with 68GR BTHP bullets. Heavier bullet weights do well with faster twist.
@samdunlap5365
@samdunlap5365 7 месяцев назад
I have a 1in 7 and a 1 on 9 and so for anything from 55grn to 75grn shot the same from either 🤔
@rickterrance4981
@rickterrance4981 7 месяцев назад
You can typically load most ammunition WAY hotter and faster than box ammunition because #1 manufacturers skimp on powder to save money #2 manufacturers want to prioritize low chamber pressures fpr safety reasons to avoid potentially damaging somebody's old rifle.
@philliphall5198
@philliphall5198 7 месяцев назад
It’s best to reload your own to whatever speed you want and weight of bullets
@samdunlap5365
@samdunlap5365 7 месяцев назад
@philliphall5198 been doing that for 40+ years
@Keelarr
@Keelarr 7 месяцев назад
When I am lucky enough to have a free day on the farm lol, m+y day consists of scouring the dark web in the morning for reloading supplies lol, IYKYK.. then down to the Dungeon for casing prep... (the most fun you can have with your reloading experience btw), then to the press.... then to bench. Pew pew pew.. then back to the tumbler lol
@floormaestro9581
@floormaestro9581 2 месяца назад
The fact that we’re trying to determine which is better when they both would destroy any living creature like a hot knife through butter with minimal effort. The ability to kill big game or an attacker who is hiding behind steel plates and sandbags is not something any civilian should encounter in their lifetime. If you own either of these rifles you are safe.
@Donishaaa
@Donishaaa 7 месяцев назад
Can’t believe I’ve never seen this channel before, good stuff brother
@reloadnorth7722
@reloadnorth7722 7 месяцев назад
I'm still waiting to see a splat test with that banana that keeps flying around. LOL, another great video. Stay safe and vigilant.
@ArmedVeteran1987
@ArmedVeteran1987 7 месяцев назад
I always like your test. You always use the ammo I own which it helps for my next ammo purchase or gun
@petesheppard1709
@petesheppard1709 7 месяцев назад
Yep! Information that's practical, not just entertaining.
@avdmustang
@avdmustang 7 месяцев назад
Try X-Tac vs PMC Bronze, you should see a difference.
@HWG-wm8ld
@HWG-wm8ld 7 месяцев назад
Yeah, they are magical. Goes through an Abrams.
@CarlSmithers
@CarlSmithers Месяц назад
For crying out loud, 5.56 is just a NATO standardized loading of 223 Winchester. THAT IS ALL! I have personally held an early, transitional box from Lake City. Guess what? They had simply crossed out 223 with a marker, and hand-written 5.56. I've also held, in my hands, an original, US Air Force AR-15. Yes, it was marked "AR-15", and "223".
@skidmark316
@skidmark316 7 месяцев назад
This guy is entertaining af. subbed.
@xephael3485
@xephael3485 7 месяцев назад
6:20 doofus shoots the same target multiple times with different ammo and then thinks the last round is "better" because it actually did something. 🤦‍♀️ Then he puts a block of wood with different densities because it's natural object with knots and other growth patterns in it... And then thanks a bullet is better than a different bullet because one penetrated the plate and the other one didn't. The entire video is made by somebody who has no critical thinking skill and probably hasn't loaded a round of ammo in his entire life.
@Herecomesthethruth
@Herecomesthethruth 7 месяцев назад
I used to have a AR with the barrel that could shoot both rounds.i would often buy the .223 because it was cheaper.but was told the .556 had abit more power. This video definitely proves that information accurate
@gmc1966
@gmc1966 7 месяцев назад
223 Wylde chamber, it makes your AR more versatile
@xephael3485
@xephael3485 7 месяцев назад
Every AR can shoot both rounds. .223 and 5.56 ar interchangeable! If you disagree find me a gun that doesn't have a custom chamber that can't shoot both rounds all day everyday without any problems...
@anthonybmwsoldat1530
@anthonybmwsoldat1530 7 месяцев назад
fire formed. once the round ignites, it will conform to the chamber. I think the casing on a 556 is not the same as the case on a 223. the volume is different, I have loaded range drops of both and never noticed a dif, but I really wasn't looking; I was too busy plinking and having fun. This was done in the before times when ammo was inexpensive. @@xephael3485
@Herecomesthethruth
@Herecomesthethruth 7 месяцев назад
@xephael3485 thanks,I'm definitely no pro.i really didn't know all ARs shot both rounds
@xephael3485
@xephael3485 7 месяцев назад
@@Herecomesthethruth It's possible you might run into accuracy issues with a .223 "chambered" firearm firing higher grain 5.56 but unlikely. Chamber the round and remove it... if you don't see any marks on the bullet from the lands, you're 100% fine.
@Coyotethumper5
@Coyotethumper5 7 месяцев назад
Love your videos one thing to consider about the sandbox is that after you shoot the first round or two rounds and you put a third or fourth one in there what’s not to say that that bullets has not collided with the other one that’s in the box just sitting there which could effect its momentum I know the odds are not real great that they’ll hit that leftover bullet in the sand but it could and it could skew the results
@HWG-wm8ld
@HWG-wm8ld 7 месяцев назад
Look up run on sentence
@El_Peto
@El_Peto 7 месяцев назад
​@@HWG-wm8ldor even punctuation
@tedlogan4867
@tedlogan4867 4 месяца назад
I've been wondering what happened to Everybody Loves Raymond.
@paulshaw8446
@paulshaw8446 7 месяцев назад
Just found your channel love the energy!
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