22LR vs 17 HMR vs 22 MAG: Never Would’ve Guessed

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On this episode of Ultimate Barrier Testing, we will be comparing the performance of the 22 LR to the 17 HMR and the 22 Magnum on 5 different targets. Each target is worth 20 points (winner takes all), for a grand total of 100 points. Whichever cartridge ends up with the highest score will be the winner. Testing was setup at 50 yards. Steel is A529 grade 55 mild steel. 1 inch = 25.4 mm. Thanks for watching!
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@jerkulese4764 6 месяцев назад

What you don't see is the 22lr bouncing around inside the box of sand. Some say it's still bouncing around to this day

@dominuslogik484 6 месяцев назад

By far the longest standing piece of fudd lore.

@bananaballistics 6 месяцев назад

I’m afraid to open it up lol

@OleDirtyMacSanchez 6 месяцев назад

@@bananaballistics What you got also going is Pointed or Spitzer versus Wad Cutter or Conical. Sharp points cut and are made to penetrate through targets, whereas Wad Cutters and Conicals are made to dump their energy right after hitting the targets.

@OleDirtyMacSanchez 6 месяцев назад

@@bananaballistics Some Ammo Manufacturer makes a Jacketed 22 LR.

@glennllewellyn7369 6 месяцев назад

Facts!

@jeremymcauliff8485 6 месяцев назад

I've had a 22 Magnum since 2002. Love that caliber! It punches well above it's weight class.

@randybeard6040 6 месяцев назад

I have a Farmer Friend that has killed many Deer with his 22 Magnum while Harvesting his crops from a Combine..

@walterfoster5682 6 месяцев назад

I had a friend up in pa.that killed a big buck with his 17 at 50 yds.

@asasquatchwithinternet6846 6 месяцев назад

I like how the comments are felonies 😂😂

@johnjones4376 6 месяцев назад

Farmer on his land. How is that a felony?

@relicpathfinder2800 6 месяцев назад

@@asasquatchwithinternet6846 I like how you imply you know the laws of every place on earth.

@siciliancapeverde4646 6 месяцев назад

The .17 HMR is definitely no slouch. A .17 caliber bullet, the size of a .177 caliber pellet. Penetrating a 1/4 in of mild steel, is quite impressive. Great video brother. Love the channel.

@CS-zn6pp 6 месяцев назад

17 HMR is a modern cartridge. It's a great varmint cartridge.

@d.parker6424 6 месяцев назад

When shooting a .17 HMR, you need to consider wind speed much more than any .22 cal.

@cm7032004 6 месяцев назад

Thought it was an eighth of an inch

@allanj4576 6 месяцев назад

@@cm7032004closer to 3/16”

@stevehartlieb 5 месяцев назад

It was 1/8in and wind speed starts to become an issue at 150-200 yards

@britishbulldog8966 6 месяцев назад

I avoided 22LR for the longest time, and 17HMR even longer…but when I found 17WSM the scales fell from my eyes. Now I’m a rimfire junky. Centrefire is still where I live, but it’s fun to step out for a little strange every now and again. Cheers from Canada.

@irishkelly654 6 месяцев назад

Where are you finding ammo for that WSM?

@britishbulldog8966 6 месяцев назад

@@irishkelly654 Just in my basement at the moment. It’s rare as hens’ teeth at the moment.

@irishkelly654 6 месяцев назад

@@britishbulldog8966 - I looked at one several months ago and a friend said great as long as you don't want to shoot it, LOL.. Obviously meaning the scarcity of ammo. So, I have not bought one as yet and will have to stick with the .17 HMR. I do have a .204 Ruger (CZ 527 Varmint) so I'll live, LOL. Cheers...

@harolddavis4138 6 месяцев назад

😢😢😢😢😢😢

@ryancrazy1 6 месяцев назад

@@irishkelly654 hows the accuracy on the 204 ruger? i want to get a 204

@Porschedoctor1 Месяц назад

Leave the ballistic data windows up longer so we can read the data!

@mfuchs2004 6 месяцев назад

Overpenetration means the round isnt disipating its energy in the target. That generally means a smaller permanent wound path and less trauma. The most effective round is typically the round that dissipates the most joules in the target.

@midlbrwn15 Месяц назад

If physics has taught me anything, the 17hmr would actually dump more energy faster whereas the heavier projectiles would retain more energy while simultaneously having more to deliver.

@midlbrwn15 Месяц назад

The only reason 17hmr penetrates so much is because of the smaller surface area creating a much smaller point for the energy to be transfered and absorbed by the target (and the velocity). Similar effect to the dudes who can throw a needle through glass without breaking it.

@mfuchs2004 Месяц назад

@midlbrwn15 correctly stated. That's why overpenetration is bad. The round leaves the target with energy unspent. Regardless of caliber and bullet type, a round that stops within its target has left 100% of its energy inside that target. Fast, slow, light, heavy is meaningless. It's joules dissipated that counts the most, followed by wound path. That's why hollowpoints are used for defense - not because they cause more injury from petals, but because they stop inside the target nearly 100% of the time. Same for hard nose flat tips for bears. A 22 magnum has nearly 40% more energy than a 17 HMR. If they both stop in the target the 22 magnum wins every single time.

@mfuchs2004 Месяц назад

@midlbrwn15 yes. Unfortunately, it often goes right through small game leaving energy unspent. Your example of throwing a needle through glass is outstanding. This only works because the needle doesn't leave enough energy in the pane to shatter it. In fa t, they don't actually penetrative the glass at all. The needle strike simply causes the glass to spall.

@RobFraser-w1b Месяц назад

Energy is not delivered to Target with 17 cal. Lol

@user-lo6cf3df1x 6 месяцев назад

The seventeen h m r is a precision shooting round at a little farther distance and more flat shootin, Each has their pros and cons

@ryanb4338 6 месяцев назад

Think the 17 HMR is often misunderstood, although it can be used for hunting. It’s more of a varminter cartridge. Shallow but explosive expansion is its strength.

@timsmith1698 5 дней назад

Oh man I feel your Pain.. a good thought to keep in mind when crossbow hunting, "If it's slower aim lower. I think you got used to fast and quick, like Drinking the ice coffee for a caffeine trip!

@The_Redneck_Shane 6 месяцев назад

I love and keep all 3 calibers in rotation. How I feel on the squirrel hunt determines which I bring. I have to say, I enjoy your visual on this! But I still don't know which I'd prefer if i could only have one

@Horus2Osiris 6 месяцев назад

22 Magnum ❤ you can clear your gel block (wrinkles) with a gentle torch melting. Great channel! Thanks

@BullseyeBenR 3 месяца назад

For the 22WMR you should have used the CCI TNT 2,250FPS out of a pistol

@brucec2635 6 месяцев назад

17 made to go thru stuff. Nice compilation of what happens with different bullet types.

@joshuaeck2712 6 месяцев назад

I can't believe that 17 when through the 6x6 and the plywood after it!

@thelittledetailscr7231 6 месяцев назад

I love that chronograph. Best I've ever used.

@bananaballistics 6 месяцев назад

I agree

@exothermal.sprocket 6 месяцев назад

Garmin has the market on consistent, reliable, compact, accurate chronographs right now, in my opinion. Beats that clunky massive orange beast on a tripod.

@BallisticBen247 6 месяцев назад

Terry needs a "slabcoat" Slab uh woo Slab uh sand Slab uh steel Slab uh gel

@HypocriticYT 5 месяцев назад

17 due to velocity delivers more expensive results on flesh and kills quicker. Skunks don’t spray when hit with a 17😮

@ChaplainDaveSparks Месяц назад

Once you said, _"Never would've guessed"_ guess what? *I GUESSED!* It *SOUNDS* like a weaker round -- the same caliber as my (old) Crosman pellet rifle. But, I figure it penetrated best since it concentrated all of that energy in a smaller diameter round. Watch out, *WOODEN VARMINTS!*

@michaelgreco1492 5 месяцев назад

I mean, It stands to reason something smaller moving faster will penetrate more than a larger slower moving round, You can take down hogs with any of those, The difference is in the energy transferred to the target, the 22 will likely impart all its energy while the 17 may very well pass right through the target imparting little of its energy but leaving a longer but smaller wound channel

@Sheepleton 6 месяцев назад

There's an old RU-vid video of a guy tearing lvl 3 body armor with a 17 hmr. It fragments but it definitely get through soft armor

@johnh1464 4 месяца назад

17HMR probably had better performance on the Pressure treated wood based on point bullet construction.

@ccovemaker 6 месяцев назад

Imagine getting murdered by a grain of rice going to 2x the speed of sound 😂.

5 месяцев назад

I think you might be backwards on the penetration of these. Larger wound cavity is 100% valuable and penetration over 5" is completely of no value. I mean, you are hunting small game so 12" of penetration is kind of pointless.

@debi5292 6 месяцев назад

We have a Remington 591 in 5mm Remington magnum. With Aguila 30gr loads it easily goes through 3/16' mild steel. It will knock holes through a standard T steel fence post. Only rimfire I have seen do that. Too bad it is long gone from the rimfire market.

@rolandomartinez9299 5 месяцев назад

17 hmr with a muzzle break and a big one too😂 didn’t know they had that much recoil

@timbumgarner1207 6 месяцев назад

I have all three calibers.. love the 17 but if it's windy not so much

@heinzamatic 6 месяцев назад

Sold my 17hmr when I realized I could load 223rem cheaper than buying 17hmr and the 223rem bucked the wind better on long varmint shoots.

@jaywood7672 6 месяцев назад

The 17 is necked down from a high powered casing, the other 2 are not, the 17 is like a 223 casing with a 17 cal bullet

@rickdunn7585 6 месяцев назад

I’ve had a 22 magnum and it’s a very accurate gun would like to see the inside damage the 17 round looks like a very small round

@american7169 6 месяцев назад

Try the "green" 22 mag tnt rounds on steel and wood, they are solid copper so probably pop right through.

@greg33033 6 месяцев назад

the small size of the .17 round traveling at that velocity doesn't surprise me.

@ethandoessomestuff...8949 6 месяцев назад

i would naturally expect a spitzer round to do its job. .117 hmr is basically a mini 5.7

@lnstall_Wizard 6 месяцев назад

I like your style young man. You have earned my sub!

@bruceschluderman3481 6 месяцев назад

I would have included the 5mm Remington in this test.

@44R0Ndin 6 месяцев назад

Can you maybe do a video on (FN's) 5.7x28 vs HK 4.6×30mm? 4.6x30mm might make you get (or borrow) a new gun, unless you have a "sporting" MP7 already (that's the firearm the round was developed for). See if it lines up with what the "official" NATO testing of the two rounds. NATO liked 5.7x28 better, both for performance reasons and for the fact that the projectiles are largely similar to 5.56 NATO projectiles, meaning the tooling for both can probably be shared (All wars are won by logistics, so common tooling is more important than you might think it is).

@tonyridestrails 3 месяца назад

nice testing rig

@doralmccart8636 6 месяцев назад

I wish you would have included the 5.7 in the test

@CSltz Месяц назад

That first test I would say through. As much as between

@j0917DW 6 месяцев назад

The 17 hmr is a mean ass little round

@Devellaro 3 месяца назад

I still have trouble thinking the data protectors are in league with the data brokers.

@Mr_N0_0ne Месяц назад

Yeah if they are hollow points that will make a huge difference you need to make sure they are just a regular lead nose. A hollow point is not designed penetrate.

@prisonmike7397 6 месяцев назад

I was shooting my 17 hmr at one of those rimfire spinner targets, and the thing wouldn't spin. After 5 shots, i walked up to it and found they had been zipping right through it. Oops

@guitarandmore69 2 месяца назад

If I knew anything about manufacturing ammo I would design a 22 mag with a pointy tip...

@relaxationdestination3366 6 месяцев назад

You should do 5.7 vs 4.6 that would be fun to see

@BuffRANGE 6 месяцев назад

Bravo! Good Show!

@MrCobb-rq8iv 20 дней назад

I've got all three, the 22 mag sucks in all directions and it's freeking ugly. I have the most fun pumping old Daisy.

@redfaux74 6 месяцев назад

Good show Double B!!! ❤

@426superbee4 6 месяцев назад

22 mag is awesome. I'am not impress with the 17. l like the 22 LR better than the 17 👉👉 my choice of them all is? 22 mag

@rowdyhoundsman 6 месяцев назад

So what bullet designs did you use?

@AndrewCox-y4l 6 месяцев назад

Try the 22ppc

@michaelforrester9963 6 месяцев назад

If this guy doesn’t do voiceovers for a living I’d be shocked

@xInsane333x 6 месяцев назад

It'd be cool to see a follow up with some of the various 22lr- performance can vary wildly. Try like Federal Punch, Aguila Supermaximum, CCI Suppressor or Subsonic, Remington Cbee, and maybe one of the more contentious bulk packs like Winchester Wildcat or Remington Thunderbolt.

@BaronMorte 6 месяцев назад

Ray Romano doing an ammo test lol. Strong work brother.

@survivaloptions4999 6 месяцев назад

If anyone steals my identity they are going to be so disappointed.

@Rexolaboy 6 месяцев назад

Hilarious 😂

@ronreyes9910 6 месяцев назад

Had someone steal mine, they gave it back with a sympathy card.

@survivaloptions4999 6 месяцев назад

@ronreyes9910 My credit so bad most places stopped taking my cash.

@survivaloptions4999 6 месяцев назад

@ronreyes9910 My credit so bad most places stopped taking my cash.

@survivaloptions4999 6 месяцев назад

@ronreyes9910 My credit so bad most places stopped taking my cash.

@mikelsworld74 6 месяцев назад

If the 22 Mag had a spire point like the 17 HMR I'm sure it would have gone through the plywood

@wintersage6895 6 месяцев назад

Something that folks should remember, is that the bullet type will affect your penetration. Those hollow points are designed to expand upon hitting a hard/firm surface vs the first .17HMR had a point that's designed for going deep into the target, regardless of the hardness. Those rounded nose .22s on the other hand, are designed to give you a more kinetic mass that gives you an in-between of the hollow point and the pointed (but given enough gunpowder will penetrate just as deep). So if you want a more accurate comparison, always remember to keep the bullet type the same when possible.

@Fordgroup00 6 месяцев назад

Yep

@mightyjoeyoung1390 6 месяцев назад

Literally everything you just took all that time to type is incorrect.

@KyleTysver 6 месяцев назад

@@mightyjoeyoung1390So bullet composition has no effect on penetration? Interesting.

@wintersage6895 6 месяцев назад

@@KyleTysver betcha he can't even list 3 common types of metal combinations used in bullets and what they're intended for without using Google.

@StC-j5k 6 месяцев назад

@@mightyjoeyoung1390 ok champ ... enlighten us, or will you ghost us because you know less than f#ckall

@woodworkerroyer8497 6 месяцев назад

If 22lr beats anything I'm going to be very upset at physics...

@Roadking556 6 месяцев назад

I'm not a fan of the 17. I know there are some big fans for this round. I just know I went head to head with a few who worshipped this round. And beat them every time in the real world of taking game in all kinds of rough weather.

@rob6850 6 месяцев назад

Bounces around and liquefies the organs, bro.

@dominuslogik484 6 месяцев назад

@@rob6850 ah that is some peak fud lore, no bullet bounces around inside of a body because its full of liquid, it will ricochet at least once and travel in roughly a straight line unless it is going very fast in which case it may curve inside of a body.

@gunnermurphy6632 6 месяцев назад

I'd be willing to bed money it would beat 22 short and cb caps

@ctsnider88 6 месяцев назад

😅

@normanmallory2055 6 месяцев назад

Great tests ! I’ve used the .22 WMR for years and have always liked the performance of it !

@bluecordprecisiongrading2504 6 месяцев назад

I have all 3 and I LOVE my 17HMR. I bought mine in 2003 when I was home on leave and it was a new thing back then. I got lucky and bought the Marlin 17V which turned out to arguably be the best platform for that cartrdge! I taught my sons how to shoot with that rifle

@abadran8174 6 месяцев назад

I've been waiting for someone with all three or Atleast 22wmr and 17hmr. I got a question I'd really appreciate you answering; We know 17hmr would perform better ballistically but how about a 100 yard coyote shot. I dropped one with a side shoulder shot from 22wrm but I'm wondering could a 17hmr do it? Could it do it better? And while you're at it I'd love to know whichof the two is louder? Thank you, brother

@wasntme3651 6 месяцев назад

The 17 is worth getting for sure. Can keep it in a quarter size group over a hundred yards all day easy Peezy

@bluecordprecisiongrading2504 6 месяцев назад

I did an insane amount of testing on this cartridge on my Marlin and would be have valuable information if I were making videos of that back then@@wasntme3651

@abadran8174 6 месяцев назад

@@wasntme3651 I believe you, brother. You can do even better than that with a nice airgun. I'm concerned with terminal performance at that 100yd and beyond. I'd sure appreciate experience and any help on this one.

@bluecordprecisiongrading2504 6 месяцев назад

I would have to set up a calibrated sound meter for that. As far as the most effective at 100 yards, there are numerous 17HMR loads that I've used in my testing going back to 2004. There are several different types of polymer tips from different manufacturers, FMJ and Hollow Points as well. FMJ were the least accurate according to my testing. As far as power, that can be figured out fairly closely using velocity and BC@@abadran8174

@life_of_riley88 6 месяцев назад

One thing us airgunners know is that .22 out penetrates .25, and .177 out penetrates .22 when shooting slugs(bullets) from our high power airguns. It's sometimes referred to as the "ice picking" effect. Less frontal area for similar energy= more penetration.

@rob6850 6 месяцев назад

That's what *he* said.

@life_of_riley88 6 месяцев назад

@@rob6850 😆

@michaelforrester9963 6 месяцев назад

Sorry couldn’t hear you over our firearms here in the us 😂 good luck with your air rifles

@life_of_riley88 6 месяцев назад

@@Krobear So for comparison, a 40 grain .22 bullet @ 950fps will penetrate far less than a 40 grain .177 bullet @ 950 fps. We like to stay under the transonic range with our slugs(bullets), as that's where best BC and lest wind drift are for lower powered projectiles.

@life_of_riley88 6 месяцев назад

@@michaelforrester9963 I'm in the US! You should check out some of the current high powered PCP airguns, I have a .30 cal that shoots a 50 grain bullet at around 1000 fps. Pretty fun.

@todglenn2707 2 месяца назад

I used to shoot 17HMR as my primary short range varmint gun, but any wind can really throw that light bullet around. 22 WMR bucks the wind better and I've switched to 22 mag. But when it comes to accuracy, .22 LR is hard to beat. There's been decades of development of precision 22LR ammo. Pick your cartridges based on what you need.

@merc6 6 месяцев назад

17 hmr is no joke but I'd still stick with the 22 magnum.

@taraswertelecki3786 6 месяцев назад

The tests against the wood, steel and ballistic gelatin makes clear that a .HMR and .22 rim fires are not to be underestimated in their ability to kill.

@robertvandever8923 6 месяцев назад

Yo Barry White wants that voice back...

@lukebaehr3851 5 месяцев назад

He definitely doesn't look like the kind of guy that has that voice. it's kind of badass

@reconrc1787 6 месяцев назад

That massive muzzle brake on your 17 HMR is a trip. 😅 Do you really feel like it's doing anything to help mitigate some of that heavy recoil?

@edgarsmittenheighnjenkson9226 6 месяцев назад

It looks cool though.😂

@SeersantLoom 6 месяцев назад

I've shot 17HMR with silencer. Was prepared for some more recoil and little bang but there wasn't much. On subjective scale - less recoil than 22LR.

@donalddarbonne779 6 месяцев назад

Bahaha!

@joshrandall3632 6 месяцев назад

No, but it definitely protects the crown of the muzzle. For me, that makes it well worth it.

@BuckeyeBallistics 6 месяцев назад

Lot of people don't realize a .22wmr rifle has the same fpe (power) as a compact 9mm pistol with basic ammo- they are both in the low 300fpe range. Also, on soft targets, .22wmr penetrates much further than .17hmr lol.

@Patrick-857 6 месяцев назад

That's because 17hmr dumps it's energy faster and does more damage. .22 bullets have a habit of going straight through a small critter, 17hmr splatters them and doesn't go any further. Typical behaviour of a small high velocity projectile vs a heavier slower moving one producing similar energy.

@Grooove_e 6 месяцев назад

Before watching I will guess 17 HMR will win

@tundranomad 6 месяцев назад

Same

@kevanhubbard9673 6 месяцев назад

I can believe that the .17 HMR went straight through that big block of wood as it's going at proper rifle velocities.

@francislutz8027 6 месяцев назад

It's the only Speer type projectile of course it's going to penetrate deeper than a hollowpoint .22lr and a wadcutter .22wmr. It really isn't even a half ass comparison, all 3 are completely different compositions and type of projectile with vastly different designs. All this video did was show you how a .17hmr of that factory load performs in that wooden medium

@Magnum_Express 6 месяцев назад

@@francislutz8027 The variances in bullet styles isn't the fault of the presenter of this video. It's a manufacturer thing. 22LR comes mostly in solid lead, sometimes that lead is hollow, sometimes coated in copper. Every 17 round available these days is either a hollow point or a ballistic tip with the odd fmj or flat nosed jacketed "spire point". The 22 mag comes in a wider choice with hollow points, soft points , ballistic tips, etc. The reason for this is you can't drive solid lead bullets to the magnum level velocity that the 22 mag and 17hmr produce. Thats why their bullets are copper jacketed. To give a true apples to apples comparison, you'd have to shoot all 3 with ammo that doesn't exist.

@irishkelly654 6 месяцев назад

@@Magnum_Express - Great reply. Boy...waiting for francislutz to respond...the crickets sure are a chirping?! LOL...

@damonhebert5096 6 месяцев назад

Use FMJ 22 mag to truly compare it to 17HMR. I have both 22 mag and 17 HMR I should just trade or sale the 17 due to it have use to me.

@jackdundon2261 6 месяцев назад

This entire test is flawed. Hollow points versus solids a massive bullet difference there. Your entire scientific thing is non-scientific it's 100% BS or clickbait

@jordanhorst6 6 месяцев назад

it'd be cool to see underwood make a .22wmr extreme defender solid copper or brass round.

@exothermal.sprocket 6 месяцев назад

Lehigh Defense actually makes those projectiles. Underwood also loads Barnes copper bullets in a few products. Cutting Edge Bullets actually makes a hand-loadable .22LR cartridge using copper spire pointed bullets. Nothing for .22wmr however.

@einarhornraiser9019 6 месяцев назад

Wow! I didn't expect these results.. I'd have bet the farm .22WMR would be freeway exits ahead of either of the other two. Looks like I'm sleepin' on .17HMR! I definitely got taken to school with this video!

@marcosdenizatrailhiker2037 6 месяцев назад

The 17 HMR round is so small it slips between the molecules of the wood as though they weren’t even there.

@marcosdenizatrailhiker2037 4 месяца назад

Agreed!

@chrisdaniel1339 5 месяцев назад

The results are not a surprise: The kinetic energy formula is KE = 1/2 * M * V^2, M=mass, V=velocity This means that if you double the velocity e.g. bullet, KE increases 4 times with the same mass. While doubling mass of a bullet only increases KE by 2 times. The 17HMR was double the velocity of the 22LR, and the 22WMR was 500fps slower than the 17HMR A smaller diameter bullet has less friction both in the air and passing through an object e.g. it takes less force to pass a needle through a heavyweight piece of canvas vs using a pencil, it takes less energy to push wood or steel out of the path of the bullet allowing clean pass throughs.

@jasonlynch9665 3 месяца назад

Wow Jim Bob dun goods ins math is class

@jayanolik1947 6 месяцев назад

I think you will have different results at a 100yds.

@mikepaul2485 6 месяцев назад

It would be interesting to see how the 17 Winchester super Magnum would do.

@aberodrigue5916 6 месяцев назад

Funny to see this, I get to see this video. And just a few minutes later am asking the same question? What about the 17 WSM?

@texas66 6 месяцев назад

Maybe he's saving the 17WSM to go against the 9mm Flobert.... 😮 Nevermind, I forgot Flobert is a shotshell ....

@russellmerritt9935 6 месяцев назад

I have one it's in a different league. 600 feet faster than the hmr

@Turbogto_guy 6 месяцев назад

Nice test but mini mag would be the last cartridge I would have used for this test. Try a federal punch, stinger, or a solid point Aguila super maximum. Oops. Posted before watching the whole thing (stinger)

@geckotheben447 6 месяцев назад

My experience .22Lr is just weak, .17HMR has a lot of penetration, .22Mag has a lot of energy it wants to get rid of, but they used to be loaded hotter.

@greybone777 Месяц назад

In what years? I'm 67 and have no memory of what you're saying.

@young-salt Месяц назад

Sorry, young-gun. Only us 1500's kids know about it, its a bit before your time

@ericb.4358 6 месяцев назад

I have a RUGER 96/22 magnum lever gun (yes, RUGER once made a few lever guns) and a RUGER Single Six with a 22 mag cylinder always in it. .22 WMR is a very powerful rimfire cartridge. Not up to 5.7 x28 but still powerful.

@mediocreman2 6 месяцев назад

Ruger is now making lever action guns again under the Marlin brand.

@exothermal.sprocket 6 месяцев назад

@@mediocreman2 Ruger owns the company, but they are still Marlin rifles. Ruger itself made lever actions at one time.

@daleharvey3278 6 месяцев назад

Owning the 96.. you lucky bàs..... I have a 77 , but I wish my wallet would have allowed me to afford all the 96 cals

@TechandTools1 6 месяцев назад

You have one of the best, if not the best channels for testing different calibers of ammo. I click every time I see one. Keep up the great work, i always enjoy watching and seeing the results 👍👍👍

@markchapman2585 6 месяцев назад

Love you're channel you have a great sense of humor. Keep up the great work. Cheers from Canada 🍻

@joetedesco63 6 месяцев назад

I knew the 17 her would puncture that 6x6. Love the 17 HMR

@airair862 6 месяцев назад

Mosin nagant rifle - test. 😍💪💯✋🌍.

@JustinTheMan369 6 месяцев назад

I think a lot of the penetration test results come from the construction and shape of the projectile. The 17 hmr has a sharper point design and look to have a more robust jacket. My $.02, FWIW.

@whiskeytango9769 Месяц назад

Shooting gophers with 17HMR is far more devastating than 22LR. Not familiar with 22 MAG though. The accuracy of 17HMR out to 150 metres is laser-like. Remember kids, if you can't hit the target, the strength of the round doesn't matter.

@thedevilinthecircuit1414 5 месяцев назад

A super-easy way to see into clear ballistics gel: pour a little water over the top surface of the gel and then place a piece of clear acrylic or polycarbonate on it. This makes the rippled surface of the gel 'disappear' and gives you a clearer look into the center.

@JaenEngineering Месяц назад

While that may be equally as effective as using a blowtorch, it's nowhere near as cool!

@elektro3000 6 месяцев назад

This was a lot of fun but leaving out the CCI Velocitor seems like a major oversight!

@donnapablos8752 6 месяцев назад

We love the 17 home I have taken down coyotes at 260 yds with it . We have not got the .22 out of the safe since getting 17 hmr in over 12 years. Thank you very much for this video Don And Donna north idaho

@benyatrock 6 месяцев назад

Hmm, are you sure about the 260 yards? A 17hmr round at that range would probably have less than 50 lbs-ft of energy. That's pretty light for a coyote sized varmint. Heck, it's light even for a wood chuck. Where did you hit your coyote? The eternal or the temple area?

@wasntme3651 6 месяцев назад

@@benyatrock You would be surprised lol. The 17 is a badass hot little round.

@myrond3588 6 месяцев назад

Same. After I got my 17 I haven't shot any of my 22s.

@NemrahG 6 месяцев назад

I’ve owned all 3 and they are all great cartridges! My only complaint with the 17hmr is that it get dirty really quick, so its not a great choice if you do a lot of target shooting. Still it is a fantastic hunting cartridge and would recommend it for that any day!

@victorwaddell6530 6 месяцев назад

The downside of the 17 HMR is that gets bucked around in the wind more .

@irishkelly654 6 месяцев назад

Sure it isn't your ammo choice? Buy a bore snake, quick and easy (temporary clean) at the range or in the field.

@NemrahG 6 месяцев назад

@@irishkelly654 noo i tried a bunch of different ammos. The bore is just so narrow that even normal amounts of fouling will constrict the bore quicker and cause pressure issues sooner. I also didn’t have this issue with just 17hmr but with 17 hornet as well. With 17 caliber guns you gotta clean them more often and make sure to use a copper solvent every once in a while. But with a clean gun Ive never had issues with either round and fantastic accuracy, especially with the 17 hornet.

@NemrahG 6 месяцев назад

@@victorwaddell6530 honestly ive never found it any worse than the 22wmr with the wind. Its just so fast and its BC is better so it just cuts thru the air.

@irishkelly654 6 месяцев назад

@@NemrahG - Not sure what to tell you? I've had my CZ452 in .17HMR for 20 years and never had this problem and I've shot thousands upon thousands of rounds in that time. Twice a year I use rod, mop and patches, the rest of the time just the bore snake (I use two, one with solvent and the other to clear out). That's why I asked about your ammo. I have .204 Ruger, not much bigger than.17 but again, never had issues you speak of?

@mongosafariadventure 6 месяцев назад

Glad my favorite rimfire (22 WMR) made a halfway good showing. I ordered and received a few of the Banana Ballistics t-shirts. A big hit at the gun range. I forgot to order a sticker for my range box.

@jimnagel5611 6 месяцев назад

ME TOO - THE 22 MAG WITH 40 GR SOLIDS IS A KILLER -- BUT I DO HAVE A 17 HMR TOO -- BUT USE THE 22 MAG EXCLUSIVELY ON ARMADILLOS -- WORKS BETTER THAN THE 17 IN MY EXPERIENCE

@BadBoy-tn2yx 6 месяцев назад

Great video. Informative. And since I just bought a 17hmr I’m even more excited about the round. Definitely testing it on different material

@squrlguts46 4 месяца назад

The squirrel on my profile picture was done by a 17 hmr

@cornellkirk8946 3 месяца назад

.17hmr is a phenomenal round!

@jacobshelt01 6 месяцев назад

I have a 22 and a 22 magnum rifle. I never thought to get a 17 caliber but because of this video I will probably buy one now. Thank you for the knowledge.

@francislutz8027 6 месяцев назад

There was no knowledge in this video. All 3 factory loads have vastly different projectiles, of course the hardest metal with the most conical shape .17hmr is going to outperform a hollowpoint .22lr and a wadcutter .22wmr

@dontworrybout2664 6 месяцев назад

@@francislutz8027multiple other videos show the 17hmr has better ballistics than the other two. Fud

@exothermal.sprocket 6 месяцев назад

And the cleaning rod and brushes you'll need for 17. Also I think 17 is more apt to foul sooner due to the geometrically tiny bore.

@Millzspec 6 месяцев назад

Just did a side by side test of these three and the 5.7. 17 hmr has been my favorite for a couple years and performed better than all three in my test

@daddyrabbit4u2c55 Месяц назад

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@grinch45 6 месяцев назад

I'm a Remington 5mm man as still have my rifle from 1971 and lots of ammo and not going to run out anytime soon.. 22Mag beat it out and 5mm went obsolete. But at the time period, the 5mm bullet was superior to 22Mag as they were still just using the same bullets as 22LR. Having a 5mm, the ammo was 5x more expensive and my dad forced me to buy my own, we learn shot discipline and not out shooting everything like the 22LR guys so. I love the loud crack of 5mm

@glennllewellyn7369 6 месяцев назад

They really need to bring it back. BIG TIME.

@9529mm 6 месяцев назад

Aguila makes the 5mm with a 30 gr bullet. Original Rem 5mm were 38 gr. Aguila rounds are fine in my rifle and can take care of my woodchuck problem when needed!

@carlmason6572 6 месяцев назад

Aguila made. Haven't seen any in years. Unfortunately my first firearm, Remington 591, and about 2000 rounds of the Aguila ammo were lost in a house fire four years ago. I sure miss that rifle; it was hell on coyotes.

@harmonsimmons6194 5 месяцев назад

Kudos to you sir!!! My first rifle, that I worked hard through the summer to earn money for, was a Remington Model 591 magazine fed 5mm Remington Magnum. I found it in a local gunsmith/dealer's gun rack and immediately fell in love with it. My father allowed me to purchase this rifle and I felt like I could take on any animal on any continent with it. I owned it for several years, but finding ammo for it was difficult and the price at nearly $6.00 per box of 50 rounds, was a bit above my budget as a young person. I still own 1/2 box of original Remington ammo for it. Dear Lord, I loved that little rifle!!! Thank you for the memories.

@jimm2099 5 месяцев назад

I had a Remington 5mm RMR growing up, that was a kick-but rimfire. I loved that rifle, too bad they stopped making ammo.

@Blakes_Makes 6 месяцев назад

Love your channel man! So cool to see how different rounds behave!

@CplSkiUSMC 6 месяцев назад

The .17 WSM is even faster with heavier bullets than the .17 HMR and now I'm curious as to how it would have done. The 20gr bullets run 3000fps and the 25gr bullets run 2500fps. I'm thinking that could put the .17 HMR to shame and probably make a serious dent in that 3/16th steel... maybe even get through.

@user-rn5ks8sf5x 6 месяцев назад

That was an interesting test. Guess we can call .17HMR the “Pine Slayer”!

@dankjankings7339 6 месяцев назад

The things it punches holes in will blow your mind and the range and accuracy with good conditions(no wind) is crazy.

@jonathanhochreiter8811 6 месяцев назад

17 hmr is a misunderstood caliber. i know this because i was one of those guys

@tundranomad 6 месяцев назад

Now THIS is the test of the century.

@StrangersIteDomum 6 месяцев назад

Should have included 556, 57, TCM...

@dr.froghopper6711 6 месяцев назад

22 WMR does things to large dogs, coyotes, raccoons- in windy conditions - that the 17 HMR can’t deliver. Seriously, a cross wind will blow the tiny bullet sideways easily. Yes it’s got velocity but it lacks the mass to buck wind. 22 WMR is stubby and slower but it’s got the mass x velocity = energy down pretty well. The 17 is a laser beam but the WMR drops the critters trying for my chickens and lambs.

@jessesando8582 6 месяцев назад

The .17 is underrated. good for some things, terrible for others. I took a rabbit with one a few days ago and the HP really ripped it up, no good. But for raccoons, groundhogs, and other pests you aren't taking for meat, its a killer to get through thick skin/fur/fat. Also shoots very flat, but has a terrible BC obviously because of its weight. Inside 100 with no wind, its a beast.