22LR vs 22 MAGNUM self defense ammo ~ PUNCH 👊 

I agree.

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It can't go toe to toe with, look at the difference in projectile weight. 50% more weight, same velocity. That's A LOT more powerful.

Plus, if there's a barrel over 3 inches the magnum will start pulling ahead massively, the "ballistics by the inch" website which is exactly what it sounds like, shows that the jump from 2 inches to 3 inches in barrel length, showing bullets of every weight gains ~200 fps from that one inch alone. For .22 LR, 27 grain CCI from a 2 inch to 3 inch: 861 fps to 907 fps. Barely any increase compared to magnum. I love .22 mag, such a fun and capable round.

No cheap.....I just got 50 rounds for 15 bucks....? Rural king

@@Nexy9 That's why my .22 WMR is 6.5", the extra length really helps.

@@Nexy9 same exact results. did you watch?

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Awesome! Glad you enjoyed it!

I do love Gold Dots. I've shot more of them than any other .22 magnum ammunition. Extremely reliable and very potent. I did a video of the Gold Dot vs PUNCH from a 3" barrel a little while back and in that test the PUNCH came out on top but both were great.

Awesome!

I didn't expect them to do so similar either!

That’s a real fluke. Should not be that way. Just more powder and more pressure. The difference is because the LR is pushing a 29gr bullet, and the WMR is pushing 45gr. I’d try something different than the Punch ammo. And with both pushing the same weight it will be a different story.

@@denmar355 the magnum is a hollow point, the long rifle is a solid. High speed photography might show a larger temporary wound channel for the magnum. My thinking is maybe the long rifle lead bullet is a little harder than the low cost rounds. The fact that the magnum still expands after passing through two layers of denim is pretty impressive. Both are very effective in short barreled handguns. A win win in my book.

Me too.

They both impressed me for sure!

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Thank you very much! Hello from Kentucky!

Yeah I agree, Federal seems like they capitalized on the strengths of the little .22lr cartridge, the WMR too for that matter. Glad you enjoyed it!

Personally for the elderly I would recommend a 380 S&W Shield EZ. Has more punch than a 22, easy recoil, and coming out of a S&W Shield EZ its gonna be easy to rack that slide and reload the magazine

Everyone always claim it's for people who can't "handle" recoil, which is a common ignorant train of thought. The .22 wmr is also perfect for for who live in tropical climate where folks are either wearing a T-shirt or thin hula shirts. If I'm wearing my board shorts, my auto loader is pulling my shirt. s down where my .22 wmr is light enough. It's this gun shaming "can't handl e recoil" fudds do that keep folks from carrying the right tool for the job.

​@Brooklyn1530 something to consider with elderly is limp wrist hold could cause a stove pipe and may not be quick enough due to age to clear it and back on target, 22lr snub nose seems like best option for older folk

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks buddy! Yeah it looks like they done their research and development on these!

@@buffalosoutdoors they have had some really good ammo come out lately. Good to see the market isn’t getting stale!

They are definitely worth taking a look at. THanks!

Yes get the punch ammo! I bought for my wife and it works really well and it is effective towards attacker.

Hornady Varmint Express Rimfire .22 Magnum is also an excellent choice in the ballistic gel testing the trauma it causes it's pretty incredible for the size of the bullet it'll cause a significant wound

If you're using a 22 long rifle the philosoraptor rounds have 320 to foot-pounds and that's more foot pounds than some 9 millimeter or if you get the segmenting around those are pretty devastating as well because they split off into three different fragments upon impact causing three different wound cavities

@@littleHuey0007 I think you mean a 22 magnum from a rifle is 300 plus????

Welcome! Glad you liked it!

It surprised me too.

Awesome! And glad you enjoyed it!

They've come a long way with rimfire ammunition. This PUNCH stuff is proof. Thanks Scott.

Hmmmm.... I'll see what I can come up with!

I'd be interested to see anything 16"+.

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If you go the .22 WMR route, Federal make a 50 grain that has a nice (no pun intended) punch. I've shot a lot of those with excellent results.

@Frank Hinkle, you don't have to choose, just get both.

@@corysather6640 That occured to me.if I could find either I'd buy it.

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