Aww this is so tragic. I have epilepsy, but it is so sad to Ian Curtis have a seizure on stage. Seizures take a lot energy, they are absolutely exhausting. I could see why he ended his life.
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lots of comments saying that this film is shit.. or that Control is better.. Or that the actor looks nothing like Ian Curtis, etc. I personally think that the purpose of the film was to be made that way.. however, it almost perfectly describes what music scene in England was like between the late 70's and late 80's. yet, i would have loved to see Stone Roses in the film..
Oddly I think he had more of clear Ian's eyes and temperament than Sam Riley who REALLY did look like Ian except for the brown eyes. But I never met Ian so don't know. Great movie
The way they portray Ian in this movie is how Tony Wilson saw him. And Ian was kind of a hardass with him. And with the seizures and love life problems, he was gonna feel bitter
Sadly yes, Ian was a very talented and yet very troubled artist. He loved making music, and singing and writing, however it was a double edged sword that he tried to deal with. The lights on the stage when performing would interfere with his condition causing him to have seizures. The few and rare moments that he did perform most of the time he closed his eyes or tried to look away if you notice carefully. This constant burden while doing what he loved caused his early demise by suicide sadly.
sean harris is one of our best actors in this generation.... tom cruise hired him as the main mission impossible villian for a reason and he is an amazing actor with grit and soul.
I think Peter Hook said in his book "Unknown Pleasures" that he liked the Ian Curtis in the flick better that Sam Riley's portrayal in "Control". He didn't bad mouth control or Sam Riley, he just seemed to prefer "24 Hour Party People"
Apparently, Britain was a real shit hole in the 70's. I didn't understand this because I was 13 at the time and living in the US and couldn't understand the underlying rage and hatred in the punk scene and why it was so popular in England. This video showed how different the culture was in an English factory town compared to growing up in a suburb in rural USA. The crowd at this Joy Division show looked nothing like the crowd at a Boston concert in the USA
I have a feeling that was filmed at Manchester Academy 3. I've seen many a band there, but then again I've seen many bands in large boxy rooms so I could be wrong!
This is a comedy film, so it doesn't really matter what the actors look like. On top of that, it's a well-established fact that Curtis based his dancing on his epilepsy. It was a way of getting stress out.
If only there were a point in the movie where someone admits that these are actors playing roles, and not the real people, and that accuracy doesn't matter since it's all based on one man's foggy and not entirely true account of the situation. It would also be nice if they put in some archival footage of Joy Division so as to show filmgoers an appreciation for the real Ian Curtis. If only if only... they did.
This guy did not look like Ian at all. He also seemed to portray Ian as being a complete jerk in this film. The guy who played Ian in Control was way better
Olha só o esforço do cara, mesmo sentindo que vai convulsionar pelo menos tenta continuar ali tentando demonstrar que está tudo normal para os outros ; até o momento em que o organismo pausa esse esforço Imaginem passar metade da vida desacordado e a outra metade tentando aproveitar a vida Isso sim é um desafio que uma parte dos seres humanos passam POR TANTO EM TUDO QUANTO É PARTE DO MUNDO PESSOAS QUE OBTÉM EPILEPSIA TEM QUE TER DIREITOS
Not to mention-and it really does need to be said, the director of Control...he was the photographer that took all those pictures of the group...I don't recall any of just Ian and Deborah, a lot of those intimate portraits of the group, that was all him, he owed them more than to shut them out the way he did and say 'thanks for making me synonymous with one of the most important musical movements in history, and to thank you, I've gone and sidelined you to make a love story about your front man'
The Ad Archive her rendition of Slovakia is one of my favourites! I love her renditions of Russia, Czechia, Poland, Croatia, England, Scotland, Slovenia, Japan, Germany, Sweden, Norway, and Spain. She’s such a great artist, legit always something wholesome about her comics to me to be honest haha
Just watched this film and the whole Ian curtis death was shit... What a wank way to show how he died, turned it off, no feeling to it whatsoever, the film 'control' is alot better, more respect.
Can someone tell who is the guy who doesn't help Ian and smokes a cigarrette at the end? And who is the guy who fights with the crowd with the mic stand?
i thought the casting was good. maybe just a bit too young. but remember, the same actor had to play ian at 18-23 or so. you never saw ian when he was a teen lying in his parents house smoking listening to bowie. an older actor might not be able to pull off ian experimenting with makeup, etc.
@monoxydeish it is a "nickname" for Jewish sex slaves in concentration camps during WWII...(well at least according to the book "House of dolls") they weren't Neo NAzis, therefore the fight...
That's not what you do when you have a tonic-clonic seizure. You don't just stand up and wander around like Frankenstein's monster. Fucking stupid movie.
This movie glorifies Tony Wilson, wich was more like an abuser of his protegies, not at all, he helped Ian, but as human he didn't could do much more for him,
Exactly. I knew Sean very well [the actor] as he and I grew up in Lowestoft, Suffolk. I like Sean and wish him all the best but that has to be the worst piece of casting ever. Shocking. Voice and looks you can't 'act'.
I'd take a dramatized version of the truth over what Anton Corbijn was dishing out with Control any day of the week. I hate the idea of Control especially because it discounts Joy Division as some backing foot-stools. He'dve been nothing without those guys, and those guys alone, change one man and they'dve been nothing. and I'm sorry but making it a love story is catering to his wifes sideline bullshit story, while important in its own right, means shit as far as concerns the bigger picture.
I know what you mean. Sam Riley from "Control" absolutely nailed the role of Ian Curtis. Hell, Sam Riley BECAME Ian Curtis in "Control". But this skinny punter, on the other hand, is totally unfit for the role and seemed to be forcing Ian's character the whole time. This movie was phenomenal anyhow. one of my all-time favourites.
gather by the brevity of Joy Division's whole 5 minutes in the movie...and Mr. Accuracy over there, he didn't exactly crawl up in the blanket and have a fit...he pulled it over his head and about a second later lashed out at everyone in the van, punching them, I'd say 'restrained' is more like it, but maybe you got your information from that oh-so-historically accurate piece of shit love story Control. And btw Control isn't the Ian Curtis story, its the Deborah Curtis story..
This is such a bunch of bullshit...how the director of the movie interlaced scenes of nazi Germany and then cutting to Joy Division singing...not a subtle message at all...also,i know this movie isn't about JD entirely, but at least if you are going to include them and their music in the film, do it honestly.
joydivisiongirl the director is pointing out the fact that due to the poor economy of the time that there was the biggest demonstration of neo-facists since the 30's and the late 70's did indeed see rise to the skin-head movement which Joy Division resented although the band's name is a reference to Nazi Germany (a nasty name according to them) - JD actually despised their misguided skin-head following which had a lot to do w/Ian Curtis breaking a glass on stage and hissing at his fans - perhaps you should read up on what the term Joy Division means as defined by the Nazi's and why the band chose that name - google the following: "house of dolls joy division" - Ian Curtis is lashing out at his moronic following
Steve Mostek I have read every book on JD and i know where the name comes from and what it means.It is ignorant people who think that just because the name's history is tied in with the nazis that JD were nazi fascists as well. (and i am not referring to you, i meant that as a general reference.)
i never said JD were neo-facists - the point is that due to the poor economy of the late 70's there was indeed a rise in haters looking for somebody to blame - the only reason that the director makes reference
As said above, the scenes of Nazism has nothing to do with Joy Division, it's referring to the rise of neo-fascism in the 70s and 80s. This isn't a film about Joy Division, rather a social and cultural commentary on life in Manchester, specifically the music scene, throughout this period.
Control was a shit film. Totally boring. But then Ian Curtis' life probably was boring away from the band. I just cant work out why anyone would bother making a film about it. Nothing much happens in his widows book either. I can see why Ian had an affair with that bird. His wife was mingin. Who wouldn't.
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