I'm the man that is currently assembling part of this motorcycle's engine in Yamaha's Iwata plant in Japan. Awesome to see people talking about it! Makes me proud!
You guys are building great bikes. Yamaha is ranked as the most reliable motorcycle brand on the planet, with the other three Japanese brands close behind.
So you’ll be glad to know that I’m going on my second supertenere 1200. My all time favorite motorcycle in more then 32 y of riding and dozens of bikes. Thank you. You are contributing to my (and many others) happiness. Truly! I’ve done thousands of kms with no issue whatsoever. PS: Update in 2024….im on my third SuperTenere!
Using this bike every day since 2016 - 60000 miles on the clock. Problem I had with this bike is .. blown headlight bulb, that is it. I believe it speak for itself.
Well I suppose you're the man to ask, do you commute on this bike and is there anything you would change or add to it for long distance touring. Thinking about getting one of these since I heard about the recent Cannonball record.
@@henkondemand mine is a 2017 model. If I’m being nice to mine I can get between 52-55. I average 43-45 with mostly curvy backroads and some interstate riding.
Indeed, great review as always. And I totally agree with your review. Capable, no personality, and heavy. But the real reason I sold my GS and the KTM and bought a Tenere: I got tired of bikes with personality. Personality was expensive, frequent maintenance. Expensive parts. Complicated engineering that while great when new, ending up being way too much personality (and money) miles down the road. I found a used Tenere with 14k miles on it for a quarter the cost of a new GS. And I have done everything I could to break it, even ran from Atlanta to Virginia and back to Atlanta with no lube in the diff. Bone dry. Pull the drain and not a single drop came out. Did the Tenere care? I put oil in and proceeded to ride many more miles with no issues. And I mean no issues. Gas, oil, and tires. At the advice of a BMW mechanic (who also rides a Tenere) I totally skipped the valve adjustments after the first one. Checked the valves again at 144k miles and they're still in spec. If that's a lack of personality I'm kinda digging it. I've still got my old GSXR hot rod, and even an old Harley drag bike converted for street use that makes 145hp, so I still have bikes with personality. They're fun, but when I really want to ride somewhere, I take the Super Ten. And hey, I'm nearly 60, built a lot like you (maybe an inch or two shorter) and I can still pick up the Super Ten. Although if I have to do it a lot on a hot day, it does tend to get old pretty fast. I just try not to drop it or ride with several younger guys that can help me pick it up.
"They're fun, but when I really want to ride somewhere, I take the Super Ten." Couldn't have said better. When want to go somewhere, I take S10 too, :-)
how much body damage you do when you dropped it? Also, my view is that groundclearance is like not enough. One of the motorcycle mags split the cases just getting onto the trail from the pavement!, drop of just a few inches from asphalt to trail smacked the bottom..HARD. killed the test with the crank oil all over the dirt....Seer
@@seeratlasdtyria4584 i think the super tenere is not really made for offroading. its more made to be comfortable on bad roads. this is a travel bike, not a dual sport for exploring trails
I was in the market for a Ténéré, and one of the reasons for my decision to buy one was this review. I really like this review style - honest, with good technical background (haven't seen the explanation for the location of the radiator / fan or the long swing arm anywhere else). A couple of weeks into owning it, all I can say is : I love my booooring oil tanker, and all the effortless travel miles it has given me so far. :-) Great motorcycle journalism! If you guys were across the Atlantic over here in Europe, you'd probably be my trustful go-to motorcycle retailer. Keep up the great work!
Easy and boing. I've been off a bike a long time, looking to get back in it, I'm thinking this is just the bike lol. Weight though, lay it down weight bad thing.....
I saw the same XT1200Z that I traded in 3yrs ago for sale, with about 30,000KM on the clock, at the same Honda dealer I sold it to. He was selling it at a decent price point. There are many things to like about that bike, but whatever I get next needs to have an easier clutch pull and most likely cruise control. I'm getting pickier with age, when I thought I would become less so.
@@keithquinn5624 They showed why it's a good bike for covering miles, on dirt or pavement, when you don't want to have to worry about your bike. It will continue to run until the sun burns out. I don't know how you come away from this review with the impression that F9 doesn't, at the very least, respect the bike. Listen to the last minute of this video again and tell me it sounds like it's not a recommendation if ease of use is your focus.
I thought so too. The whole time he was building to that punch line. And the way they brought you to it was genius. Because when you're riding in an endurance race, the last thing you want to do is fight your bike the whole time.
No-question, hands-down, stop-looking, 100% the BEST motorcycle channel on YT! Good vid, great edits, fantastic explanations, understandable science. Just.Effin.Solid!!
I just picked up a 2019 Super Ténéré from the dealer, and this review plus the comments are to blame for it. I love this bike, it is exactly what I wanted.
Okay, listen FortNine, I'm subscribed to You, MC Magazine, and Revzilla. While other two are producing just interesting videos to watch, notification from your channel... is something to be excited about. Excited is the word. Everything, from camera work and editing to Ryan's voice is enjoyable. You make some amazing, genuine, meaningful, informative reviews. You make it not only entertaining, but educational.
I own an '14 Super T and concur with the review, finding it dead on and unflinchingly honest, and quite hilarious, actually. Adding a slip on exhaust, Arrow headers and an ECU flash wakes it up quite a bit, but the Super T is no KTM. That is OK, as a KTM, cool as they are, is not "easy" like the Super T either. The review does not mention (or maybe I missed it) that the bike has cruise, which is a major plus in the easy column. My '14 was "easy" to buy used at a great price (8K, with 8.5K miles on it) too. Add a slip on and some after market bags (most if not all are far better than the crap factory jobs) , set the cruise on the highway at 4,200 RPM, enjoy an incredibly stable feeling bike that sounds a lot like a through the hull exhaust V8 powered boat cruising across the lake, just kick it and watch the world roll by for a hellvua long time thanks to the 6.1 gallon tank. The Super T is a nice relaxing way to see the country. I have another street bike that is fast. Funny thing is, unless I am going for a quick rip, I ride the Super T more. Maybe at age 57, I am finally growing up a little - haha!!
I’d love that combo. I have an fjr that I sold my VFR1200x to get. I’m considering both the concours, and the super 10. How do you like them so far? How’s owning a Connie on everyday rides?
Hello, Great review I completely agree ! Also own a ST12 and I've always been wondering if the ECU flash was really worth the value ... Would it be possible to benefit from your feedback regarding this upgrade ? Thank you in advance, LD
Strained back muscle and hernia picking it up? Boring? Crushed foot? Boring? ....Boring if it ain't me I recon ...nursing those? Might have some upside if you like prescriptions for Vicodin ...I'll pass
Mid 3 seconds 0-100kmph with a bad factory tune and electronically limited acceleration in the first three gears is boring? Going on any road surface you please while hauling all the gear you can imagine is boring? You spoilt little turd.
Most important quality in a bike that I will ride far from home... Reliability. Second most important quality... Reliability. Third most important quality... Reliability. Yamaha for the win. Seriously, I just bought a 2015 model and I love it. Roomy, comfortable, plenty of power (says the guy with 4 Yamaha FJ1200's.) It's quiet and everything works very well. If you read the Owner's Manual, the switches are easy to use and navigate. The low center of gravity makes slow-speed maneuvers easy. Yes, the engine is "boring" and I love it. The last thing I want in a long-distance bike is an engine that is exciting; I'll leave that to my WR400. Just give me an engine that boringly gets me to my destination and back home. It's slow? How fast do you want to go? The Tenere will easily cruise at 100 mph all day long; fast enough for a speeding ticket anywhere. In Sport mode it pulls like a locomotive. Do you really need a big adventure bike that will do 150 mph? That road ain't a racetrack, Bub. Relax and enjoy the scenery. Anybody want to buy a lightly-used, pristine V-Strom 650? I don't need it anymore. Disclaimer: I'm 64, been riding since I was 15. Been there, done that. Been around the block a few times... Bill
Now they bring T7..game changer.. No doubt the S10 is excellent bike bcoz its Yamaha,We like the brand .,you didn't done wrong..,but like been said ;it need refresh..
I'm trying to figure out a good adv fit for me. A pretty much one bike fits all. Commute, touring, dirt and rough stuff. I'm a motonoob and currently ride a honda shadow 750. Any advice oh experienced one?
I felt the same way about the engine when I test rode one from a dealer, then I test rode one being sold privately that had been remapped to remove all restrictions, lower the fan temperature and unleash another 20bhp. I was so impressed with it I bought it. I've been riding 35 years and have owned and ridden everything from pizza-delivery bikes to 200mph+ missiles and the S10 is one of the best bikes I've had.
Just bought a demo 2019 Tenenenenere with 300 miles for good price. I used to own a 2014 model, that unfortunately was a 2013 model registed late, and didn't have the engine improvments and cruise control of the actual 2014 model, and that engine was DULL. I got the ecu flashed, which wasn't easy, and it was so much better. Yammy originally limited power in 1st/2nd gear, which was a bad idea. At the time I loved this machine, and that's coming from someone who was driving it in to central London everyday in crazy traffic, and I could hustle this thing through gaps scooter riders wouldn't dare go through. Just don't mess the balance point up, cos when this thing topples over at slow speeds, you can't stop it. Cue 2020. I flirted with MT-09, ZZR1400, Honda CBF1000 mistresses. With each new bike, much to my surpise I pined for the ST. WTF? I missed the comfort of the riding position, the lugagge I could carry, the do almost anything ride, it's effortless ownership, and the shaft drive, wow i missed the shaft drive. The engine in the 2020 model feels completely different, much more lively and responsive than before. That extra HP in the top end really makes a difference, although sometimes on the motorway when you jwant to pull away you can be in thw wrong rev range to get the top end power from 6k+ revs. I think they changed the torque/HP ranges a fair bit in some update. Sport mode is quite snatchy, but personally I have a slick enough wrist control and I enjoy lurching off the red lights like I'm riding Aslan in to battle to the astonishment of all the sports riders who are trying to get their revs up as I beat them to the first gap in traffic which puts me at the front of the next set of lights. Win. WIn. I love how under rated this bike is, it keeps the insurace premuims down, the realibility is legendendary, it's more relaible than all the solid state devices I've owned. It's super cheap to service, doesn't have complciated expensive eletronics, and best of all, you only have to do the big valve clearance service every 24k miles! That's insane! If you want big adv bike but don't want to pay big adv bucks, this is the best choice hands down. Of coruse there's lighter, better handling bikes, which I dearly love and respect, but I have to drive this bike every day in terrible UK weather which melts most bikes down to a fine powder of rust residue like a straberry milkshake in the Sahara, This bikes goes, keeps going, goes everywhere, goes well, and like a lucky charm, stays when the theives come looking for bikes. Thank god this bike is so underrated. My mate's BMWs have been stolen, and they walk right past this bike, so every day I can drive while my BMW buddies are either waiting on the garage or the insurance payout.
Fantastic write up, it convinced me that my next bike will be a Super Ten. I'm driving a GS but I'm finding out that I'm not a fan of personality either.
I've loved my Super T and you hit the nail on the head on so many things here. I've flirted with a Tiger 900, Africa Twin, and even bought a T7 about 3 weeks ago... I'm literally waiting on the title of the T7 title to arrive in the mail so I can sell it and get back on my Super T. She's such an underrated bike.
I just watched this again after watching it back when it first aired and it's so freaking good that it gave me goosebumps. Absolutely brilliant. This channel is the GOAT that all of us creators are chasing. It doesn't get better than this.
Finally my bike reviewed properly!! Fair review, nice to have somebody else's opinions! I sure do love my Super Ténéré, i'm a long distance moto-camping guy!
Agreed with everything you said, and I'm a moto camping guy as well. Torque/hp curve on this bike is perfect for it. I carry 130 lbs. of camping gear and nice that I can climb steep hill loaded down at 88 mph with no problem!. I'm on my 2nd Super Tenere. Had a 2012, now have 2015.
@@Gr8Layks its not hard to figure out. if you look through the clips you can figure out where a ton of his riding areas are. hint, one spot you'll see in many of his videos is near "black lake" in western ontario(none of the clips here are from there though, this is BC but i don't know which part).
I'm in the market for an adventure bike and this is really making me look closer at the Super Ten. I was pretty much sold on the Africa Twin, but the additional fuel capacity, cruise control, and ease of pounding out highway miles looks pretty appealing.
Must of been the first time you’ve watched f9....they do bike reviews that are like watching a movie. Best part about is that he is unbiased about product because they don’t take sponsorship. Simply one of the best motorcycle shows on you tube.... one of the best productions on you tube!
Ok, folks, here’s a little personal note: from the begining of september, I’ve watched this vlog at least a dozen times and I read ALL the comments below a couple also. Ryan and you all convinced me: last Friday (October 2th), I made THE MOVE! Adios to my beloved FJ-09, 2015, here’s comes the new queen! Allready rode about 500 km this weekend (around 80 on backcountry gravel roads) in rain, sun and windy conditions and... THIS review is spot on accurate! The STénéré is everything as described: easy, dull, easy, grippy, easy, lazy, easy, aggressive, easy, heavy, easy, torquy, easy, speedy (S mode), easy etcetera. Easily the best all terrains bike I ever rode. Easily the best motorcycling move I’ve ever made. And I should have trusted my intuition, way back in 2017, when I decline the S10 in favour of the much sportier FJ. It would have been so... easy! Ride on!
Awesome! And you don't even have to deal with the annoying vibes around 3000rpm like the first gen owners have to till they make the expensive modification, and you have cruise control as standard.;)) Enjoy the ride!
@@V4zz33 You’re absolutely right, mate! And the Electronic Suspension is just awesome. I rode 3000 more kms before winter. Never used touring mode once! Simply a blast on all terrains: gravel, dirt and pavement. I’m back on the saddle since March 17th (here in Quebec, we can’t ride back before March 15th). This is resurrection! Man I do love my XT1200ES, it’s ridiculous!
I just started my ninja 250 on full choke got a notification from ryan and shut it off for this video... I might have flooded the carbs but its *WORTH IT!!!*
I have lived in Canada for 60 years and that comment by Ryan was the funniest one I have heard on his videos, and his delivery is perfect. So entertaining and informative. It helps in December when it is snowing and cold and windy in Calgary. LOL.
Great review as always The ST is the best! If you like to ride different terrain all day long with no problems this is the bike to buy. I bought my ST 2015 and 2 week later went from Montreal to banf and back, after you turn this bike on you just want to go! I don't want to compare it to the GS but my experience with BMW is that as long as you go to service it every 20 days is a great bike.
Finally, a decent and honest appraisal of on S10 and fun to watch too, excellent work ! If your thinking of buying one then listen to this guy. As a long term owner of one i could write pages on how good this bike but i'll simmer it down to this...If you were faced with a 5 or 600 mile journey to do in a day with every type of road, in good weather, in summer with all the best a ride has to throw at you then there is no better bike to be on than an S10. If your faced with the same journey in all weathers, all road surfaces and in winter and all the worst a ride has to throw at you then an S10 is the only bike to be on. Add to this the fact that you can do this kind of journey everyday for years and it'll never complain or let you down then your only scratching the surface of what its capable of. Take it from someone who owns one, the S10 is genius.
I always wait for Fortnine's Motorcycle reviews. I know you explained previously why your reviews take time but you have to churn more out. You guys do reviews better than anyone!
"Strangely effortless"...………………. now that's a compliment in a review of anything. Spot on with the comment about the key and the pannier. If you own one of these, take the back off the lock on the panniers, take out the two little phillips screws, apply the best lock--tite you can find and put them back. THEY WILL VIBRATE OUT.. not pleasant. Been there.
If the S10 is like the FJR, the dealer is supposed to Lock-tite the pannier screws. In fact, that is on the new bike, FJR checklist. That doesn't mean the dealer did it though.
Definintely failed to do so on mine. What's worse, when the top case lock refused to release my key I took it to the Yamaha dealer and the whole mechanism came apart on him.. The top case lock is far more complex than either right or left pannier and they were never able to put it back together. I'm pretty mechanical and spent nine hours on it before I gave up. Ended up with a hasp and small padlock. Very maddening and ended my relationship with the dealer.
Ryan: You're bike reviews are the best thing I've seen on RU-vid. Production and your talent are fantastic. There's something Rod Serling-esque about your speaking method that is comforting. Hope you get additional opportunities. Let us know if you do.
Yes please, I ride to enjoy myself not beat myself up. I am 53 not 23 and the super 10 sounds great to me. Thanks for the advice and honest review. Again!
I'm 53 now,with a Tracer900 that i use on light trails(TKC80 tyres from new) ,with it's final payment due next week,i'm looking at an S10...£10250 Pre-Reg,heck,here,one with 20k miles is advertised at £9000 in the dealers,seems like a no brainer...can you match that BMW/KTM?
Looked at all your ADV bikes videos! I purchased the Tenere because of your vids! Done the James Bay Hwy , the Trans Taiga, the Trans Lab and the Tuk! The Yamaha Super Tenere has not had an issue, and as Ryan would say "easy is what you want"
Just bought a 2013 SuperT today with tons of extras and minimal mileage. Doing 389 to Manic-Cinq, TLH, NL, NS and back to the Chesapeake in June. Planning the TCH to Yellowknife and then the WY BDR next year. This looks like the bike for it. Boring, maybe. Epic journey? No question!!
"Yamaha can't sell it...," because all the buyers in this tiny niche already have one. The Tenere 700 will sell by the truck load. I can't wait for that review.
So you’ve reviewed the main 3 Japanese adventure bikes now. PLEASE make a video comparing the Africa Twin, V-Strom and this Tenere! Now that you’ve ridden the 3 I and I’m sure others would love to hear what you have to say.
Have to say after viewing all three of those reviews I think the conclusion is plain: 1.Vstrom great street machine that's more then capable off road with a decent price 2. Africa Twin great off road machine that's capable on road for a decent price 3. Super Tenere best of both worlds and better price then the R1200GS and lest I forget KTM 1090 just buy an R1200GS ;-)
After searching long and hard for my next adventure bike, Ryan sells me on the Super Tenere. It checked all my boxes and after riding my new 2019 S-10 I'm in love. Thanks Ryan!
Great review...i own a gen1 (love it) & i agree with everything you say about the bike. I had the ecu reflashed with arrow headers & muffler which has made a great bike even greater...definitely not boring. Give me reliability rather than 160hp on an adventure bike any day. Great allrounder bikes👍
I've got a 2015 Super Tenere ES that I've ridden well into Mexico and back, as well as around lots of the American Southwest. The only complaint I can come up with is the hefty weight. Otherwise, I love this bike! It's happy with pavement, dirt, washboard, rocky bits, whatever. Carries 2 people with plenty of gear for a Mexico trip, too. And I didn't need to bother bringing many tools, because, well, it's a Yamaha. :-) Off road, 100HP throws a great rooster tail!
4 Years later. H-D dealership buys back my problematic Pan Am Special. They have a KTM 1290 SAR on the floor that has sat there since being traded in for a Pan Am, something like a year earlier, I've seen it there about that long... maybe longer. I buy it for the interim but the Pan Am left me hating all the new electronics, and thinking what could I get thats lower tech? I wonder... hmmmmmmmmm Then I remember this video and have to watch it again, and plot.
Great review. The idea of traveling is to have as few problems as possible. This bike is probably the most reliable on the market. Yes it is heavy, but you are not going to do black routes on this bike where you have to pick it up often. Flash the chip and you can have as much fun as anybody else if hp is your thing. After all, how much hp do you really need on dirt? That driveshaft is rock solid. Yamaha has perfected it. Go and check the problems you have with BMW shafts. Not to mention maint cost. Give it a whack on dirt and don't be scared of the weight. She'll pull through. A great bike and when it is time to replace mine... I'll buy another one!
Rudi Roux , Dwight Schrute , the GS 1200 is an excellent running bike for 3 years, then the warranty expires and the GS begins to fall apart, at this point the GS becomes very very expensive to own!
Agree. I have friends with GS's and Triumph Tigers, and I have my 'boring' Super Ten 1200. Guess who has had nothing go wrong in 4 years and 52,000 hard miles? It's the motorcycle equivalent of the Toyota Landcruiser. Would I buy another? Yes, no question.
Best Canadian ever!!! I love your channel! And your sense of humor! Please keep the videos coming forever. I’m old and broken so I can’t ride much anymore but I enjoy my motorcycling vicariously through guys like you. Thanks for that!
@tha idealist Well seeing as how they are able to sell the same design for years( most of the time). Their stubborness for change is logical and honestly seeing a new model of the bike you have with all new featurs within 12 months makes you feel like you should have waited.
I do have a Brand new Raid Edition and it's a great machine!! Usted to hace an aire/oiled cooled gsa 1200 09and its similar. More poder, nice sound and explotions when cutting gas, good brakes, better transmisión and a pleasure to drive....And ver y well finished and Reliable!! The most!!
Now 70.000kms in two years...its an incredible realiable And fun peace of beast!! The best máxi trail bike....youlll get to go anyplace in the world with no worries....just fun..........the real iconic Adventure bike.....possers just go selfie, facebook And to your posh stealer dealer, ha,ha!!!
One of the most honest and informative reviews that I have ever watched. Absolutely brilliant. I was unsure of what big adventure bike to buy, but after watching this review several times, i went out and bought a Super Tenere. Thanks for the great review (and thanks to the production and editing crew) great job all round.
Funny how I can wipe mine around trail like a 125cc. Put the traction control on level 2, and steer with the rear end. Just don't do too may jumps. Taking off is easy, its the landings that are hard on the skid plate. (2016 ES model with way too many Touratech parts).
I’m looking for a comfortable tourer. I had a GS1200 & a Diavel. Diavel was just as comfortable. I ride a XSR900 now. As soon as the borders open, I’ll be looking at a touring bike. It’s between a FJR1300 or the Tenere. Your thoughts please guys
Agree 100%, owned an Africa twin 99 for 80.000km a F800GS for 100.000km and in 2016 bought a ST and did 19.000km love it but you are right it is boring = reliable 😉 I’m planning to keep it for 6 years or 80.000km
Hey Ryan, Love your reviews mate. I bought a Tenére largely based on this review. 2014, 16k miles. Heaps of extras, blue which I love.... Not a scratch. Suspension came stock, which I have refined. Took off the Battlax's & slung on Mitas E-07's. I'm very seriously considering Patagonia back to Texas next year. In support of Military Warriors Support Foundation. Be great to have you join me. I'll tell you all about riding in my native South Africa too.
I have wanted one since they came out. I sit on one every chance I get. There are motorcycles that have tons of personality, which bend your riding style and destinations to their capabilities, and that challenge you. Those bikes can broaden a rider’s skill set, and maybe introduce the rider to new styles of riding. Then there are bikes that sit patiently waiting for the rider, and in their confident, unpretentious capability, perform their tasks effortlessly, and seem to disappear under the rider. That’s servant leadership. And that’s a trusty traveling steed.
I rented a MultiStrad 1200 last year and I loved it, so much so that I am looking for an ADV bike to park next to my roadstar warrior. But I would be afraid to own a Ducati. Some times that aftertaste your looking for can be very bitter!
I've been riding a 2015 Super T for almost 3yrs. While I can agree with some of your points, I still really enjoy the bike. I've had zero issues with the bike she's been rock solid. Soooo many people complain about sport mode and city driving. I use it every single day and I split. Just like the corning it just takes time to get used too. And yes, the balance on this thing is AMAZING lol. I can come to a full stop and hold it for a second or two. When when I'm completely stopped at a light I'll bring up my feet and just balance it just for fun lol The Super T is a great all around bike. Might not do one task perfectly, but it does all the tasks well.
I leave mine in sport mode as well and zero issues with jerky throttle. On the other hand I had a 2014 HD Low Rider that was so jerky around town it would drive you to drinking.
The jerky feeling of sport mode goes away with a little added clutch finesse. I hated how that mode felt in town at first but quickly learned to smooth it out. I never put it in Touring mode, too much engine brake and just feels dead. One of these days I plan to put a full exhaust on and a reflash.
@@lackingpoint Get the reflash and just add the Arrow headers to delete the cat. No more jerky throttle and loads of power. Only add an aftermarket muffler if you want more noise, powerwise the headers are what matter.
I’ve always heard of these being referred to as the Land Cruiser of ADV bikes, if you wanna go around the world get a BMW, if you wanna make it back home get one of these.
I can vouch for the Tenere ECU reflash. Back in the day we had to send it to Italy, but the "stonk" it freed up was worth it! Holy traction control Christmas lights! Now there are so many choices for performers of re-flash. As far as lifting it from a dirt nap goes, I was able to lift it easier than the very flat-laying Africa Twin. Parallel Twin vs Boxer, air cooled vs water cooled, telelever vs telescopic, pretty vs ugly, but yeah, whatever you say "copy, copy, copy?' Good grief, I had this same argument with Kevin ash, rest his soul. You can't call it a copy just because it was the first true challenger in that segment.
There was a time I have been riding exclusively Ducatis (MTS, Panigale, Scrambler, you name it) for a couple of years successively, I got used to the flaws, it became part of riding. But when I finally got a Super Tenere 1200. WOW, this bike works! I love how Japanese bikes have switches that actually work, side mirrors that stay, neutral that is easy to find, highways are effortless and riding in mountains, I can easily smoke every other club rider. This bike is easy! I can ride this bike all day long!
I want to see your opinions on the tenere 700 when it comes out. Hopefully a more thilling and exciting bland and boring motorcycle good for 24 hour runs.
Currently have a 2019 Africa Twin standard, and looking at a leftover 2021 Super Tenere 1200...love the ES, its a magic carpet. It just needs a slip-on to let you know you're on a motorcycle :)
That is one of __ No, that is the best review I have ever listened to or read! Thanks. PS. I am fighting an inner battle: Tenere or V-Strom. This helps.... me still feel undecided, but it is about what I really want from a bike. I do ride long days on a trip and nothing fancy (except I am used to beautiful handling lots of power from my 2004 Concours. But, I think this might be the way to go for me.
Great review. The thing about the weight... it's not THAT much more than any other large ADV bike or tourer, and though I'd not be able to do it repeatedly all day, I've never had a problem picking mine up (and I am not exactly the Hulk, either).
This is an "Honest to God" great review of the bike! Thank you, this is the first time I have seen your videos and I loved it! I really enjoyed your funny feedback. You explained the review just like the average Joe would want it explained. Fantastic job my friend!! Thank you from all the Bikers from Auckland, New Zealand (Noo Zeelund to you Americans!! :-) )
I always chuckle at how everything is relative. This review leads off with "570 pounds" as though it's the Cardinal Sin that anything with two wheels should ever be this heavy. Which, if you're looking for a dirt bike, is 300 pounds too much. Me, I look at it and see a touring bike that's more advanced, as comfortable, higher performing, and 300 pounds LIGHTER than my current GoldWing. So everything's relative.
My 2014 ST has 112000k and I love it. She done the KTM rally in SilverStar last year. @about 15km/hr her back tire is supposed to lock-up.... sort if... I love her. Best value for the money!
Ryan, i gotta tell you..being an old anti eastern canuck, im not always easily impressed but... I think you did a great job with this review and you make me proud to be a canadian that so many others do not. For a young guy,,, from an old 59 yr old bugger ,I want to compliment you on the great job that you are genereally doing!! Art
The guys from a Spanish magazine did an off-road comparison between S10, AT, GS1200 Adv and KTM 1190 R. They equipped all the bikes with knobby tyres and each brand (Honda, Yamaha, etc) send a rider sponsored by each one (all Dakar ones that already participated in several editions). In end they decided the best bike for off-road was the Super Tenere. Here the article with video (see the video) : motos.coches.net/noticias/bmw-r-1200-gs-adventure-honda-crf1000l_africa-twin-ktm-1190-adventure-r-yamaha-xt-1200-z-super-tenere-comparativo-trail-offroad-2016 They do a detailed analysis of each one. Quickly draft translation of the general conclusion : In the end of the day of testing and contrasting the sensations, the four of us clearly match in almost every aspect of each machine. By assessing the effectiveness and ease of operation on Off Road, I emphasize, exclusively on Off Road, we could order their characteristics as follows: The Yamaha is, without a doubt, the easiest one . It is the one that has allowed us to go faster and more comfortable in a controlled way at all times. Possibly, for long journeys by motorway, is not as comfortable as the BMW, but undoubtedly is the most endurer. We bee very surprised by the contrast between their real weight and the feeling of lightness and mastery that transmite. In second place we would place the Honda. It is the least powerful but we have found it very versatile. By ground it allows to go equal or faster than the Yamaha, although it demands something more of pilotaje, in part, because the size of the set is greater. What we lose in Off Road domain respect to the Yamaha we gain in comfort of travel. Thirdly we would leave the KTM, a very balanced bike that allows a "serious" and complete use on Off Road. But we notice it a little big. At least more than the two Japanese. Perhaps it would be the most versatile. In last place would be the BMW. We have no doubt that it is an incredible bike to travel, but in Off Road, its limitations make the driving complicated. In general terms and thinking about the usual use that is given to these types of motorcycles, we can say that what is gained in travel comfort is practically proportional to what is lost in ease and effectiveness of driving on land.
I realized early on watching Ryan F9 that these aren't mere reviews ...they are adventures! I have a hard time watching normal "stand around and talk about the bike" type of reviews now. Thanks Ryan F9!
The GSA is something like a 570lb tank wet... why does everyone drool over that but dis the STen due to weight? We have a STen rider in our group and while it's definitely not a super-exciting bike... it is comfortable and competent... and INSANELY durable and reliable (something modern GS riders will have no experience of). People talk about the Beemers low cog but the ST feels AT LEAST as low. When we're touring he is trying to keep up with Ducati's... and you'd think "that's crazy"... yet for 95% of touring conditions the torque of the Yamaha allows it to stay in the pack... only when shenanigans mode is engaged does he struggle. IMO the biggest complaint I'd have of the Yamaha is the boring bit... it's not an inspiring bike... but it IS all the good things you expect from a Japanese bike too.
