I'm sure a large portion of us viewers don't actually pick locks yet we all have learned something that is valuable to us all; don't buy a master lock.
Master locks are very good quality a thief tried ripping my cable lock and took my whole window bar with him and stabbed his ribs master locks are really good quality don’t believe this fool with his little kits no one even has
@@michealangel1556 bro the first time I ever tried picking locks i picked a beat up rusty masterlock in 5 minutes with a Bobby pin and piece of hose clamp. Btw rusty and beat up =harder .If someone with any practice tried raking a master lock it pops open in seconds unless it has a rather extreme bitting. That's the absotue truth. Physically they are strong on the out sides but you can also use a blow torch and melt the insides to the point the lock will open within 4 minutes or less
@@michealangel1556 Sorry your window got broken into, but that was a really dumb thief. Just because one person doesn't know how to pick a Master lock doesn't mean that it's not possible. That's not logical.
LockPickingLawyer I think the issue is that if you drill the bottom of the cylinder out the entire pin stacks could be dumped out through the hole you drilled.
@@rat4spd One small screw? The main screw holding the lock core in place was under the shackle. Together with a thick plate. Which would make for a difficult task if one would try to pull the lock out of the bottom of the lock body.
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So few people would even attempt a lock like this. How long in total time did you spend on this lock? Masterful picking as always and a very nice lock to boot.
Thanks. As for how much time I spent on this lock... I shot the video the same day I got the lock in the mail... so probably a total of 1-2 hours playing with the lock, experimenting, and evaluating the mechanism before I turned the camera on. Because of the trap pins, I did not even attempt to pick this before tearing the lock down and learning the mechanisms. I didn't want to end up with a "bricked" lock. ;-)
Lock Noob It's really not that bad. Most of the time was spent removing the trap pins and progressively putting them back to ensure that I wasn't going to destroy the lock when I purposely tripped them. That was my paramount concern. Purposely tripping 6 trap pins is a daunting prospect.
Adam Ant, I wish LPL would have gotten around to answering your question. I'd really like to know the answer, too. That would be a really nice piece of information to know before purchasing this lock. If the lock became completely bricked after someone tripped the trap pins, and the owner couldn't un-brick it with a key, how in the world are you going to get into your storage unit, shed.. whatever the lock is protecting? Having to go after this lock with a grinder after some jerk tripped the trap pins seems like a steep price to pay.
This was such a fascinating video I didn't realize it was so long compared to most of your videos. Very impressive job with the picking and the break down. Its unfortunate they didn't optimize the core with the locking mechanism. Other then that this would still be a nice lock to use in a practical sense.
I think the drill protection was there in such excess because the locksmith really wanted a lock people couldn't pick, and didn't want some son of a mother-father coming along with a drill and saying "yeah, I'll have a go at this" I mean, if you made an almost entirely pick proof lock, would you make the shackle out of zinc, or thick hardened steel?
There are plenty of life lessons but one of the most important to understand and implement in my life is what In take away from this video which is this "Knowledge IS Power" Power trumps everything in a world of human beings. It's more valuable than money and allows its possessor unlimited ability. That's why the 48 laws of Power (book by Robert Greene) are a good reference to anyone's success and happiness. As mentors we should always teach this first and foremost to our youth. Understanding the use and abuse of Power is key to a better civilization moving forward. Everything else is just a results of mot knowing how others are exploiting this very law.
I don’t believe the engineer should be canned, as design flaws happen to a lot of these locks. If the lawyer picked it it was because there was a design flaw. This is still a very well made lock and you have to take in account that the Lawyer is very skilled in picking locks
An amazing pick, so much in such a small package. Great analysis of its short comings too. Looking forward to getting my picks to have a play with dimple locks. Just have to find some dimple locks not too common in Aussie. Thanks again.
Great job as always. Only comment I would make is that when your picking you are doing it from an advantageous position. I am assuming because of the camera angles and it would be hard to show what you were doing if the lock or door knob was mounted? I started to learn how to pick when I was installing locks for a living. Was never very good at it. It was definitely much harder to pick with the lock or knob mounted.
@@awkwardcultism it's not an oxymoron. He said perfect not unopenable. A lock is designed to keep something enclosed or protected to be opened only by a key. A perfect lock would be one that can ONLY be opened by the key. I would also like to see him design something
Tristan Zahringer, and don’t forget that even if the lock is impervious to traditional picking, it could still be vulnerable to physical attacks. Typically, the more complex the lock, the more delicate the mechanism. If a lock can’t be picked but can have its guts ripped out by a slide-hammer or drilled out... is it still secure?
If i remember correctly he could not open one with a final fantasy Looking key, like a double "J" shape that you insert, turn, then pull, and turn again. That key deserves to be magical
He's made videos on good locks. And made the point that there's a certain point where it is so good that certain weaknesses don't matter. Because the point of most locks is to deter easy theft. If someone is determined to steal something, the lock isn't the weakest link. Most people can't pick locks like LPL. And even if they can, they don't carry special tools for specific locks unless they've planned a huge heist or something. And in that case security is your best defense, not locks.
Yep I don't think one out of a million ordinary lock-picking thieves would have the skills to tame this beast. I would use with confidence, but I bet that anyone trying to steal anything secured with it would vandalize whatever you're protecting with it just out frustration!
Just out of curiosity. What did you buy it and for how much? I can't find a single shop that sells these. I probably should follow your advice, but I am attracted to big padlocks =)
Strange, I'm so much more curious about locks than computers. Seen a lot of your 3-4 min lockpicking videos. Starting to find more challenging lock vids, you find some real doosies, like this one. As always, nice job!
Huh, this is a design flaw. Take a lock design that no matter how carefully you pick it and how much you know about it you're going to have to deal with backup security features on top of initially picking it. Then have it be openable without defeating said backup security
Knowing this is a 5 year old video and that you are busy I have little hope of an answer. But, I'm trying to buy a Hugo padlock and the company doesn't respond. Google doesn't find any retailers. Living in middle America I don't see them sold anywhere. I want a 20mm brass padlock with Hugo etched on it.
I'm not sure why, but your voice always reminds me of Carl Sagan. I miss Carl Sagan :( Sweet lock! Awesome picking! I have never seen a Hugo here in Canada. Probably even more rare here lol.
Even with the flaw you have to stop one set of trap pins and also only someone who has an extensive knowledge of picking and this specific lock would be able to pick this if a criminal would go to that much effort then it doesn’t matter what precautions you take they would find a work around Locks are never full proof to every attack because if they were the criminal would attack elsewhere
Now that's an impressive pick. I guess it helped that you had a key and so could take it apart before picking to find out about those 6 trap pins. Nevertheless very very clever. Not convinced many could pick that lock.
This is the best video I have seen I'm very impressed with the skills you have. When will you be dropping the attorney job for exclusively lock picking???
I’m intimidated just looking at this lock. Really impressive stuff as always. I can imagine some German engineer somewhere watching this video and screaming “NEIN! DUMMER AMERIKANER! JETZT MUSS ICH BEI MORGEN DREI ARBEITEN, UM DIES ZU FIXEN!”
There should be a website where you can search/filter locks based on their features/advantages and disadvantages. E.g. I think, I'd like to have a secure not-easy pickable lock, but drilling could also help me, if I lose my key 😅
I can imagine this one, beefed up with Ruko-style sleeve and Ruko's own pins for sleeve and shsrp Assa Abloy spools, as well as Ruko five two-part sidepins being quite the workout. Perhaps one or two of the trap pins being magnetic.
love the way you find little flaws in these locks great breakdown as usual.. I'm currently working on an mt5 but getting no feedback at all I can pick an interactive no problem do I need to set the alpha spring first?? because when I try that it still feels springy
Thanks. On the MT5, I've only found one in which the Alpha Spring mechanism doesn't set first, so it's not a rule, but that's what I always check first. Usually, the set is not subtle. A very distinct "click." Good luck with it.
I'm getting no click from the alpha at all.... I've just put a bid on one on ebay and this one has a key which should help lol thanks for the info and keep up the good work I will keep you posted 😆😆
No problem. I normally do say what I use, but if I don't, feel free to ask. In this video, I'm using a SpooXe left curved flag, and a HUK tension wrench.
WOW...excellent picking...what complicated gutting...I don't think I would've even attempted it...LOL...and talk about overkill on drill protection...Honestly I kept thinking..Who drills a padlock??? in fact if someone can't cut the shackle..most of the time they will attack the hasp or chain it is attached to..but that is just my thoughts..Thank you for sharing :-)
with regard to your question about why a lock maker would do something that makes there lock hard to take apart....that would be because about 98 percent of there customer base PREFER the lock be hard to take apart...only locksmiths and experts in the feild of locksport would ever want a lock they can easily disasemble...most customers hear 'lock' and 'easy to disasemble' and they mistakenly think it means the lock breaks easy and will thus avoid it...got remember, these locks arnt built to sell to you lpl, there built to be sold to joe normal and are tailored to joe normal's way of thinking and sensatiblities
Very interest. Gives me a few idea for challenge locks. With all that drill protection, I'm curious how drill would actually go. Imagine if those pins weren't hardened lol. May explain why there are so many.
A trap pin challenge lock... well, shit. There is definitely a ton of drill protection... kind of a kitchen sink approach. We have the thick retainer plate, the spinner, the first two pin stacks with steel pins, and 10 hardened inserts in the core. Considering the relatively low drill threat against padlocks in general because they are not securely mounted), I don't see this lock ever being drilled. As for the inserts not being hardened, who knows... they don't come out for testing. Interestingly, Lockwood is struggling with this exact problem now. Apparently they sold many locks with non-hardened inserts (that's what happens when you outsource production to China). I'm told you can drill them with ease.
Just the approach of more is better makes me think they aren't hardened. Anyone knowing anything about locks and drills bits etc will surely know that 2-3 real hardened inserts would be good enough specially if there is a plate and spinner. That's pretty much the set up we see with every known brand, assa MTL medeco etc. Wow what a let down. Can't believe what I'm hearing. I'll give up all hope once Assa goes to chine but for now and probably a while I'm still good :).
That's an amazing lock, nice job! If you widened the gap at the back of the core that interacts with the locking mechanism, would that correct the design flaw?
Thanks. You're idea is a good one, and it would probably work well if the actuator was spring loaded (it is not). Without spring tension, I'd be concerned that if the actuator was turned part way, and there was nothing preventing further rotation (in your idea, there wouldn't be), you could jiggle the shackle open (i.e., the balls would turn the actuator). This is just my initial impression... it might work, but I don't think so.
Ah yes, I'd say you're right about that 👍. The more difficult fix would have to be resizing the actuator and/or steel balls or making wider trap pins. Which sounds like hard thankless work 😂
The bigger balls idea might have some merit if they would fit, and have the added benefit of being really easy to implement. It's amazing the number of problems that having a bigger pair of balls will fix... :-D
Slowly making my way through your videos but have you picked Kaba dimple with pins on the edge? These are the only ones I've come across and I've been told you can't pick then.
whomever said they can't be picked is wrong. I have picked some, and seen videos of others doing the same. I have a couple opens on a Kaba Expert, several opens on Kaba 20s (not fully pinned due to master keying), and one damned lucky open on a Kaba Quattro. No videos. I am not proficient with them at all. They are VERY hard IMO. I'd rather pick an MT5+ than an Expert.
Thank you for the reply. As I have only ever impressioned locks in my day to day job picking has always been an interest only the same for my work mates. No one spp maybe the occasional pick gun attack. As I an teaching myself spp techniques one boss is keen to see how I go. So naturally I want to try dimple locks so that leads to kaba and the quatro seems to be the only ones about the office. Hence the comment that can't be done. I hope to show him one of these days. I have my new picks and some locks to try. So I hope I can pick your brains for some inspiration and help. Thanks again.
This Hugo lock uses the GR 4.5S Cylinder. If not for the design flaw where the slop in the second set of security pins allowed for the opening of the lock, could you still get past this core? In: www.hugo-locks.com/catalogues/hcat/public.php?brand=4&slang=1 the GR 4.5S is used in many HUGO platforms. Perhaps other HUGO platforms do not have the same vulnerabilities with this core.
Is it still opening in the trap position if the other trap pins were not blocked? I mean if the trap pins engage on both sides, the rotation would be less.