284 Winchester - Hottest New Long Range Cartridge?

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For 44 years I’ve had the good fortune to photograph and write about my passion - the outdoor life. Wild creatures and wild places have always stirred me - from the first flushing pheasant that frightened me out of my socks in grandpa’s cornfield to the last whitetail that dismissed me with a wag of its tail. In my attempts to connect with this natural wonder, to become an integral part of our ecosystem and capture a bit of its mystery, I’ve photographed, hiked, hunted, birded, and fished across much of this planet. I've seen the beauty that everyone should see, survived adventures that everyone should experience. I may not have climbed the highest mountains, canoed the wildest rivers, caught the largest fish or shot the biggest bucks, but I’ve tried. Perhaps you have, too. And that’s the essential thing. Being out there, an active participant in our outdoor world.
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@easttexan2933 3 года назад

When ammo was plentiful, one still could not find 284 Win at the local gunshop or at Academy, or at Walmart, or just about anywhere. 7mmMag? Everywhere !! All day long. I don't like excessive recoil so I don't shoot a 7mmMag anymore. I prefer my 7x57 and my 6.5 Swede. 140gr pills at 2650fps in commercial ammo. I'm happy.

@buddy22801012 3 года назад

The 28 caliber is catching on! It took us a long time to realize Paul Mauser knew his stuff back in 1892.

@louissehovski3291 3 года назад

Originally the 284 was in the Winchester model 88 lever action it couldn't be loaded to it's full potential(so I've read),I have a 98 mauser action chambered in 284 ,it's a great shòoter,fun to experiment with loads in the Lyman manual

@awsomedude12345678 3 года назад

You do realize the 270 is a .284 right?

@wawheeler21 3 года назад

@@awsomedude12345678 no the .270 is .277"

@HAYAOLEONE 3 года назад

.277 or .284, 9.3 or .375. 4 calibers to do almost everything with 'big' bullets.

@awsomedude12345678 3 года назад

@@wawheeler21 yes thats my bad its the same as the 7mm

@bobwills7607 3 года назад

6.5x284 is another wildcat that kicked butt!!!

@swishswish386 3 года назад

This guy is very knowledgeable, likable and easy to listen to👍👍👍 Further to this he doesn't "crap on" and pump himself up etc. which unfortunately seems to be the very irritating trend on many shooting channels. I have just subbed !! Greetings from Australia

@bocconom 3 года назад

Fully agree. Ron doesn't waste words or time; the man is a walking encyclopedia and a great respecter of the history of cartridges and guns, . I avoid many shooting channels not only because of the "crap on" and the legend in their own minds mentality but also because many have a narrow understanding of what is 'good."

@gunman-6646 3 года назад

I totally agree with you!

@dakotawaalkens7303 3 года назад

Oh, You mean like David Petzal? I respect his knowledge and experiences but that gentleman is just plain grumpy and opinionated.

@RonSpomerOutdoors 3 года назад

Thank you Swish. I shall endeavor to remain humble, which shouldn't be difficult because I screw up to often to get cocky. And my wife reminds me.

@kentuckywindage222 3 года назад

Ron is a straight shooter! He pulls no punches and let's facts do the talking.

@Rampant_Colt 3 года назад

This, 6.5×55 Swede, and the (6.5-284 recently) have been my favorite since I was a kid. I really regret trading my M94 Swede! Hopefully this old Winchester cartridge makes a big comeback when folks realize its true potential

@arnoldgrubbs2005 2 года назад

Dig it! - Loving the 6.5-284 lapua..(same as 284 win but longer standard throat for heavy projectiles) Have built 3 on 98 mauser actions, and 2 others on different actions. Still have a 96 6.5x55 Swede myself, but usually grab the 6.5x284.

@duaneholcomb8408 3 года назад

Never shot the 284. But the 270. Has always been a favorite of mine.

@johnganshow5536 3 года назад

I knew a couple of guys in Juneau in the 80s who were serious Dall Sheep hunters and went north every August/September. They had custom built bolt action rifles chambered in 284...

@blairajdean 2 года назад

Could have saved some money with a 30-06 ….. my dad has a Dall sheep from the Yukon he shot in the 80’s

@exothermal.sprocket 3 года назад

7mm/.284 is a sweet spot in power, range, recoil, and with enough oomph does the job on big game. Peterson Cartridge (sold exclusively through Graf & Sons) just north of Pittsburgh, PA makes match grade brass for .284 Winchester.

@MJA5 3 года назад

I think it's very interesting when an old cartridge peeks over the wall and gets noticed. I suspect the people who designed cartridges back 60 years ago were as brilliant as the people are now, and all without computer simulations, so even more impressive in the end. The 284 Winchester is older than I am, and I guarantee it shoots straighter 😄

@jmkhenka 3 года назад

As someone said, they learned what there was to be learned 100 years ago. Engineers, geniuses at that, spend thousands of hours developing the modern brass cartridges we use today. All we got today is good marketing departments. But to that, the market has changed a bit with modern boat tail bullets as most designs was flat based in the early days. And boat tail bullets need diffrent barrel designs/twist rates due to lenght. But the cases themselfe are no more irrelevant today, take the 6.5x55 swedish that is 130 years old today and still competes with modern variants like the creedmoor. But modern PR does what modern PR does, makes people think the old thing is irrelevant. Sometimes more is not better - take the 6.5-300 or 6.5 PRC. Neither does anything people misses in existing 6.5 offerings. 6.8 western is another example. A 270 with better twist rate barrel and more freebore is a better choice, or the 270 wsm.

@johanneskolenbrander8288 3 года назад

You got it 👍

@lawrencecardente533 3 года назад

@@jmkhenka I agree with you about the twist rate in the 270, speed it up to 1in 8 and the 270 western/short mag/Nosler/Weatherby mag, all go away.

@sergioantoniolazzaro1995 3 года назад

@@lawrencecardente533 yo no estoy deACUERDO CON USTED, USE PUNTAS DE 150 Y 165 EN MI 270, EL SPIND DRIFT ME VOLVIO LOCO Y LAS BALAS NO EXPANDIERON, SI TENGO DINERO PARA UN SEGUNDO RIFLE IRE AL 7 RM

@leeeng478 2 года назад

Considering it is the year 2022 and we are just catching up to our accomplishments in the 1960's when America could produce and make anything. Saturn V rockets 1967 carried the heaviest lift capabilities ever. As of 2021, the Saturn V remains the only launch vehicle to carry humans beyond low Earth orbit, as well as the tallest, heaviest, and most powerful (highest total impulse) rocket ever brought to operational status. It holds records for the heaviest payload launched and largest payload capacity to low Earth orbit (LEO) of 310,000 lb (140,000 kg), which included the third stage and unburned propellant needed to send the Apollo command and service module and Lunar Module to the Moon. We have actually lost massive capabilities and overall IQ's have dropped 3%. We have less capabilities in a world of smart phones and computers does not always represent reality!

@bmonty1915 3 года назад

What a great round! So the .284 was doing a lot of the same things as the infamous 6.5 Creedmoor; just 50 years earlier. Just goes to show you that timing and marketing is everything.

@wildcat_reloading 3 года назад

Alot of the old chamberibgs are making a come back because of how powder and bullets have advanced

@Smokincreekadventures 3 года назад

The 264 win mag was a prime example

@life_of_riley88 3 года назад

6.5x55 Swede does just about as much as the 6.5 Creedmoor with lower cup pressures. Lower cup pressure means less wear on chamber throats and barrels. There is very little new technology in the firearms world.

@14goldmedals 3 года назад

The 6.5 creedmoor cannot compete against the 284 Win. Open F-class shows us what works at 1000 yards and the 284 Win reaches way, way farther as a target bullet.

@Predalien195 3 года назад

Yes, but 6.5 is doing it in a short action rifle vs a long action. Don't get me wrong, as the saying goes "Anything under the sun" is true. Nothing is new, just reinvented or reimagined. That said, there are distinct advantages to each caliber. If we're talking strictly what something can do on paper it's not hard to determine which is superior, but if we're talking availability and practicality, there's a huge difference between the two.

@philliphill4763 3 года назад

Another fantastic history lesson accompanied by wisdom for the future!

@williammcclelland6789 3 года назад

Thank you sir for teaching me something today. This is a cartridge that , for whatever reason, I have overlooked over the years. But now, you have me thinking.

@jimmiefarris4218 3 года назад

Had a 284 in 1964,loved that rifle and so very accurate. Was a custom made rifle, Fajen stock, Douglas premium barrel. Still wish I had that rifle. 😪

@demonrathunter 3 года назад

THANKS RON !

@RonSpomerOutdoors 3 года назад

You are most welcomed, sir.

@kirkboswell2575 3 года назад

As i recall, the 284 got "shot in the foot" right out of the gate by a couple of nationally recognized writers who didn't like the rebated rim. Once they started on the "deficiencies" of the rebated rim, it became a series of issues such as "proper" bullets impinging upon powder capacity. And they even took exception to the sharp shoulders. As I recall, it was "potential feeding issues". Needless to say, this was a pretty big hurdle to overcome. But there were a number of people who kept saying "hey, the 284 is better than you think". And they kept saying it. And they kept saying it over the years. One guy even chambered a long action with a long freebore to allow no impingement on the powder space. And yes, he got improved performance, but then you started hearing that such a chamber eliminated the advantages of the short cartridge. Long story short, a couple of national names kept the 284 from the success it should have been, and a lot of ordinary people continuing to speak up and say "it's really good" kept it alive.

@HAYAOLEONE 3 года назад

The 7.5x55mm_SWISS makes more sense for sure.

@jeffcopenhaver2217 3 года назад

I’d love to see the 284 Win make a comeback, but the queen of my 7mm court has been and always will be the 7x57.

@Mark-uq9km 3 года назад

7x57 is one great and historic round.

@RonSpomerOutdoors 3 года назад

Can't blame you for picking that one, Jeff.

@brandtwebber5761 3 года назад

It really is a great round.

@lagermat 2 года назад

I wish Winchester, Remington, or one of the other big manufacturers would consistently chamber a rifle in 7x57. If I could get a rifle in that caliber it would be my go to.

@MrMalicious5 2 года назад

284 Win and a lot of it's variants have been all over F-Class and Benchrest for years.

@beestoe993 2 года назад

My favorite caliber is 7mm. Anything you can do with a .30 cal, you can do with a 7mm with less recoil and a flatter trajectory and the available bullet selection is huge. I would LOVE to see a passel of NEW 284 Win rifles hit the store shelves. That would be great. I think it is one of the best cartridge designs ever.

@jjdias74 3 года назад

Once again you're proving the Johnny come lately cartridges don't offer anything new. Keep making the great videos that you do.

@nmelkhunter1 3 года назад

Well said. I have an uncle who has used either a 30-06 or 7MM Rem Mag to kill everything on the North American continent, with the exception of the great bears. He also has a 280 Remington since he thinks it’s, in his words, a cartridge everyone should own. I tend to agree! But I’m biased since I killed my first mulie buck and buck antelope with his 280 Remington and 140 partitions. Take care and best of luck in the field.

@RonSpomerOutdoors 3 года назад

Thank you sir. I shall try.

@bustabass9025 2 года назад

No such thing as, "Johnny come lately" cartridges. What you are referring to is the results of continued research and development in rifle cartridge improvement and performance. As with anything, there is a standard that generally speaking performs well. But thanks to pioneering ballisticians like Roy Weatherby, John Nosler, Elmer Keith, and many others too numerous to mention here, the world of hunting and shooting continues to evolve, rather than remain stagnant in the era of days gone by. In short, there are many, better choices which consider many different factors, that probably didn't go into the development of the original cartridge.

@nmelkhunter1 2 года назад

@@bustabass9025 From a hunting perspective that’s silly. After all, big game animals haven’t changed.

@bustabass9025 2 года назад

@@nmelkhunter1 What's silly is the woefully narrow minded way in which you view progression. Hopefully, this is not indicative of your beliefs about how the real world works.

@melaninabsentgenetics3626 3 года назад

Any time a classic/ original is popular I'm happy! Dang new fangled technology! Replacing cartridges and arms that work great with plastic/ carbon... Thanks for some classic presentation.

@timwright8078 3 года назад

I have never hunted a day in my life. Also have very limited experience shooting rifles in general. That being said, I absolutely love this channel. I could sit and listen to Ron spew his copious knowledge for hours. What a refreshing, no frills education/history lesson each time. Keep up the great work.

@RonSpomerOutdoors 3 года назад

Thank you Tim.

@christianh8463 Год назад

I have been hunting with a .284 Browning A Bolt Micro Medallion since I was 6 years old. Still my favorite rifle to this day. Use a custom loaded 139 gr projectile moving at 3100 fps. Most drop where they stand havent ever had to track one yet.

@mathiasness9635 5 месяцев назад

I have a 6.5 284 and it’s a beast.

@langleyj8199 3 года назад

Thanks Ron.

@bobkat1663 3 года назад

Great Show.

@larskunoandersen5750 3 года назад

I love this videos. Good information and I learn from it.

@randyschaff8939 3 года назад

Hi Ron thanks for the chat that’s a good one all right. .30/06 is way easier to feed. I call it my .300/06 with the new powders and bullets out there available👍🤠

@danielmaine45 3 года назад

True statement! With the newer bullets and powders...the 30-06 is really getting into the original ballistics of the 300 win mag.

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

I love my 6.5x284 so a .284 would be fun to have...

@MrSpudz2 3 года назад

You’ll get better barrel life and height BC with the 7mm

@AlaskanBallistics 3 года назад

@@MrSpudz2 true

@lloydshultz9645 3 года назад

Good information Ron..

@gpax-6197 3 года назад

Awesome. I will look at this cartridge. Love to hand load. Looks like a good one. Thanks Ron.

@stevenboggs5076 3 года назад

I love the subtle LR hunting snubs

@MatthewinGooseneck 3 года назад

Love these cartridge video s!

@nbonner75 2 года назад

I always appreciate the history and perspective Ron brings to cartridges on the fringes of my radar

@davidjensen2411 3 года назад

My favourite!

@nmelkhunter1 3 года назад

Great review and I have always thought highly of the 284 Win! Your rifle in 284 Winchester really caught my eye; great looking tool to get the job done!

@kuzkuz3959 3 года назад

Thank you for the history lesson and comparison of cartridges.

@rkba4923 3 года назад

Since I have ruptured disc in my cervical/neck and recoil is, therefore, a major issue, I'll stick with 7mm-08. But, look guys, choose whatever cartridge you like that's sufficient to take your intended game/target, then learn your system/rifle. Everything will be fine, trust me.

@davidburns3480 2 года назад

i always enjoy this guy with his knowledge and good way of getting it across

@leonardogarcia2506 2 года назад

Thank you for the video!

@NomadicHacker. 3 года назад

Always a good reminder that there is so much more to learn about ballistics

@HernanMoragaMmHs 3 года назад

Oh man, I would like to hear more about that 280 remington. Great video as always!

@RonSpomerOutdoors 3 года назад

I'll try to remember to do one on the 280 Rem., Hernan.

@paulvenn4447 3 года назад

@@RonSpomerOutdoors 280 AI! :D

@kirkboswell2575 3 года назад

@@Chester_Oliver - No, the 280 failed because of the 7 mm Remington magnum. In fact, Remington almost didn't agree to make the 7 mag because of concerns that it would severely impact their 280 sales. But a couple of gunsmith/hunters in Colorado and Wyoming (the inventors of the cartridge), convinced Remington that it would be better if they made the 7 mag than it would have been if it was offered to Winchester. Remington agreed it would be better to have the 7 mag in their stable than if it was in the competition's stable. And, yes, the 7 mag overshadowed the 280.

@HernanMoragaMmHs 3 года назад

@@paulvenn4447 vortex nation prdcast has a really good one on the 280 AI. Although I would love Ron giving his take as well. .284 is my favorite caliber!

@robertthurman3743 3 года назад

@@RonSpomerOutdoors 280 AI - I've been looking at the 280 but that AI has my attention juuuuust a little more. I've been itching for a new build in the 7mm size. I just haven't been able to decide if I want a 284, 284 Shehane, 280 AI, or the 7MM SAUM. I have interest and respect for all of them, but I need a push. Teach me, Ron! The 7's are where it's at! Well done, sir.

@flyonbyya 2 года назад

Another Remarkable presentation !

@peterdiebel7372 3 года назад

Awesome chat on the underated 284. One of my favourites was and still is The 358 win. How about it Ron. Thank you .

@alaskalamb 2 года назад

I second that!!! I have a rebarreled ruger scout in 358 and love it

@johnkaraphillis754 3 года назад

In the early 90’s I picked up a Browning Micro Medallion in .284 Winchester for a stand I had in the hard woods hunting whitetails. I loved it and worked up some 140 Nosler Partitions with IMR 4350. Shot just under an inch which is not bad for a 20” barrel and partitions, but it hit hard. Really loved it but did not do a lot of load development due to the recoil. That gun was hard on the shoulder after about 20 rounds. Thanks for the memories Ron. Really look forward to your videos!

@timotoxic4664 3 года назад

As a watcher from central Europe, here we do not, (never) take a shot over 200m 250 yard. Even in the Alps, there you can take a ram at 500. (575yard) but it will bring you to a hike of 9-12 miles. If you not take a clean shot the Animal will suffer, so you better not do it from that fare.

@TheEigerclimber 3 года назад

I STILL THINK YOU ARE THE BEST PERSON TO TALK ABOUT AND COMPARE THE 308 FAMILY OF CARTRIDGES AND THE 284 FAMILY. THANKS FOR THE GREAT INFORMATION! HAVE A FANTASTIC DAY!!!!!!!

@RonSpomerOutdoorscom 3 года назад

Thanks, Climber.

@shanegridley4922 6 месяцев назад

Love all the info and history in your videos 😊

@averageaussieshooter9696 3 года назад

Another great video on a great cartridge!!!

@guardianminifarm8005 3 года назад

Great video Ron. Thank you so much. Thoroughly appreciate and enjoyed this. I have to agree with you. 284/7mm is a fantastic caliber in most every offering.

@RonSpomerOutdoors 3 года назад

Thank you Guardian. Glad you enjoyed it.

@14goldmedals 3 года назад

Been a 7mm user for hunting since 1983 right out of high school. I'm glad the kids I saw on the short bus are finally caught up.

@russellcalder2693 2 года назад

Ron, I love the. 284win. My father pasted down 2 model 88s. Keep up with the updates on the 284. I had a bolt rifle made for me as well. Awesome cartridge.

@mavericknonconformist69721 3 года назад

My first rifle was a Savage 99 in .300 Savage, love the cartridge,

@lesliewinters1301 9 месяцев назад

Ron, thanks. For the quality, dependable perspectives. You are here to help, .... and you sure do.

@sammartinez8084 3 года назад

Thank for the information Ron your the best

@RonSpomerOutdoors 3 года назад

You are most welcomed, Sam.

@emoryzakin2576 3 года назад

Pretty excited for the 284s rise, just got my lapua brass in yesterday! Now to size it to 7.5x55 Swiss and I’m set!

@Hegde- 3 года назад

This is so cool.....

@RonSpomerOutdoors 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it, Shreekar.

@soreloser6018 2 года назад

Good to see Grandpas deer cartridge getting some exposure. Still a nostalgic cartridge for me.

@hackdlc 3 года назад

I’ve got a model 88 that was my fathers in 284. Absolutely love that rifle. Pretty much my go to deer/hog rifle. It got hard to find fuel to feed it for a while.

@Bigfoots_brotherinlaw 3 года назад

Been a fan of the 284 winchester for years. I have a 6.5x284 in a savage and a 700 chambered in 284. Absolutely love them both a great cartridge that does it all.

@BushmasterM4A3 2 года назад

Read your article in Outdoor Life (March 2020) comparing the .284 Winchester versus the 7x57 Mauser and 7mm-08. I'll stick with my trusty 7mm-08 but cant deny the increase in case capacity of the .284 Winchester for the long range crowd when pushed to higher pressures. Thanks for another great video Ron!

@jackmitchell3118 2 года назад

My ole win 88 acquired in 1964 is Still harvesting elk,deer,and bear For me

@rustybucket83 3 года назад

This is epic. My dad built one of the first custom 284 win on a 95 mauser in Killeen, TX. He was in the 2nd armored division. Pagels gun shop I think it was called in 1962.... we shoot this gun to this day. Douglas Supreme barrel laid in a hand made fajen style stock. He also built the 300 win mag when it was developed. Its built on a high number rock island arsenal 1903 Springfield. This is old news in my family's household! Yall better watch for the donut when you reload...

@paulbest6556 2 года назад

I stumbled across a LH custom .284 in a nice wood stock on a Savage action. It was built by a Wyoming gunsmith, probably in the 60’s. Many nice small touches. Action is smooth as glass. Love the rifle and round. Loved the video and insight on a fine round.

@brynnjohnson471 2 года назад

A great cartridge. Thanks for another enjoyable video Ron

@garyeaton5719 3 года назад

Great information, well presented. Thank you.

@RonSpomerOutdoors 3 года назад

You are welcome, Gary.

@jijrod5669 3 года назад

........love your vids.........very informative......thx Mr Spomer

@RonSpomerOutdoors 3 года назад

Thanks Captain

@paulsimmons5726 3 года назад

Very cool discussion. I've never seen a rifle in this cartridge though. You never know with all the companies revisiting the 6.5, 270, and 7mm's these days, someone might decide to bring it back with a new jazzed-up name. Everything seems to get recycled in ammo if you wait long enough, the 284Win might be back at some point... And Ron, you might be the guy to nudge it back to the current discussion!

@davidwasson3935 3 года назад

If they do it will be the fourth time this round was invented, he left out the grand dad of them all. Just after ww1 a german named brenneke invented the 7x64, it is the ballistic twin to the 284 and the 280 rem.

@dustinbutler3820 2 года назад

I have a Model 99 Savage in 284 Winchester. Absolutely love it

@fkreller1 3 года назад

My dad extolled the virtues of this cartridge since I can remember, and he took a bunch of game with it until he fell in love with the 7mm Remington Mag.

@stephenrapalyea8475 Год назад

A friend of mine had a Savage 99F in .284Win.He bought his new circa 1962 .A very sweet rifle. I keep my eyes open for one when one comes together with the money at the same time.

@gregjennings9442 3 года назад

It’s even better when you reload and can seat the bullet well out to get case volume back. It’s the most common cartridge used in F-Open class. Now that’s single loading in a short action, but you could use a long action to get the same effect using a mag.

@leeeng478 2 года назад

That why I like the 7x57 in 175's you can load them way out there!

@jimmieburleigh9549 3 года назад

Loved my 88 and 100 in 243

@russellcalder2693 3 года назад

About time. Love the .284. Had one built for me. Bolt action that is.

@M--ri2ef 3 года назад

Love to see a video on the 250 and the 300 savage thank you for all the good videos.

@RonSpomerOutdoors 3 года назад

Thanks for watching M-1

@googleuser8448 3 года назад

Amazing. My best friend just inherited a Remington model 7 rebored for the .284. He was asking me a lot of questions about the rifle and the round. I didn’t know anything about the round and not a lot about the model 7 so i just happened to come across this video so i sent him the link. Then after i watched i this video, i now really want a .284

@matthewq4b 3 года назад

The 284 Win has always been overlooked and underrated. Good Vid. For a short action rifle it is tough to beat the 284 Win. I have a 284/350 (284 necked up to .358) on Ruger MkII action that my father built back in the 90's. Most of our hunting, the shots are in the 100-250 yard range. And the 284/350 is the perfect brush gun for hunting moose, nice and light, easy to pack through the brush with no worries about line of sight obstructions (brush) causing deflections, and hits like a freight train with Nosler partitions or Barnes X bullets.

@MrRourk 3 года назад

When I was doing hunting pistols I learned all about the 30-30 Wildcats. There is a whole lot of forgotten rounds based off that venerable cartridge.

@robertvasquez240 2 года назад

Nice video. I always wondered why I don’t see many new rifles chambered in .284 WIN--and I rarely see boxes of ammo in that caliber. I wish Winchester would reintroduce the Model 88 and the Model 100: they have always struck me as beautiful rifles with their one-piece stocks.

@thomasfurniss2026 Год назад

Go look up a finwolf.... in 284

@kenshaw338 3 года назад

Always loved that cartridge…

@70Rich70 3 года назад

Keep it up Ron. I like the knowledge.

@jeffreyplum5259 2 года назад

I believe a good friend of my dad used a 284 in a Savage model 99 for deer in Maine. I love the look of the Model 99.

@gunman-6646 3 года назад

Great video Ron. Always enjoy your work!

@RonSpomerOutdoors 3 года назад

Thanks Gunman.

@brianclevenger5521 3 года назад

Great video. I have never seen a 284 cartridge or rifle. I do love the 7mm-08, and mostly shoot 6.5CM, but those numbers are great.

@20team73 3 года назад

Ron I love your videos! Very informational and educational.

@RonSpomerOutdoors 3 года назад

Thanks Earl. I'm trying to provide solid data and interesting information.

@patrickmarzo36 3 года назад

Yes, I do agree: He's very knowledgeable, likeable and charismatic in his style. Great job Mr. Spomer

@RonSpomerOutdoors 3 года назад

Thanks Patrick.

@rgibson759 2 года назад

Another great video, thanks for the effort Ron

@stephenwhittier6439 3 года назад

Love my 284 savage mod. 99 and my ruger mod. 77 !

@robertmajors1737 2 года назад

My first deer rifle was chambered in this round. It was a late 60's or early 70's Ruger 77 in a mountain rifle configuration. I started shooting this at 7 years old, and shot it until I graduated to a Ruger 77 in 7mm Rem Mag at 12 or 13 years old.

@redneckrumbler 2 года назад

Great work Ron, very informative 👍

@G19Jeeper 3 года назад

My buddy built a .338-284 Win and its pretty sweet. Not my cup of tea but its his backup for thick stuff.

@thecheapshot1065 4 месяца назад

I love the maple leaf stock

@melchung1566 3 года назад

Back In the mid sixties I inherited a Savage 99 in .284. it used a clip n I called Savage to convert it to .308 Win but too expensive so I traded it off. Now I have a Winchester Model 88 and M100 and I reload for both guns. I wish I kept the Savage 99... Thanks for video, the ballistic table comparisons were very clear and understandable!

@blackie1of4 3 года назад

Love the 284 Winchester... another two that were ahead of their time were the 350 Remington Mag & the 6.5 Remington Mag I owned them both and both were accurate as well.

@waynestone6462 3 года назад

Yes sir . Also the 358 win .

@blackie1of4 3 года назад

@@waynestone6462 I actually got my hands on a 358 Winchester.. Ruger put out a special run of 400 a few years back.. so I picked one up. I absolutely love the short action calibers!

@jeffcopenhaver2217 3 года назад

@@waynestone6462 In my opinion the 358 Winchester just might be the best eastern woods cartridge ever devised. It kills deer and black bear like the hammer of Thor, and you can eat right up to the hole. Unfortunately nowadays, everyone fancies themselves as snipers so the poor 358 gets overlooked.

@waynestone6462 3 года назад

@@jeffcopenhaver2217 Amen Brother . I love the 35 caliber .My late uncle killed a trophy Roosevelt's ELK with the 358 win. The 35 Remington is so popular in the eastern woods why not the 358 win ?

@blackie1of4 2 года назад

@@waynestone6462 haven't harvested anything yet with my 358 Winchester.. but every time I carry it.. I know it will do the job with authority! My two older brothers use the 300 Winchester.. to each his own. We are hunting the eastern woods of Pennsylvania. I've had my eye on the 35 Remington as well. A lot of hunter tote this 35 every year. This past season however.. I picked the 358's smaller brother and harvested a big bodied pennsylvania eight point. That was with a Tikka T3x Hunter chambered in 7mm-08 Remington.

@ohmbre300 3 года назад

Love your videos, Ron thankyou from Aussie

@RonSpomerOutdoorscom 3 года назад

Thank You Dave.

@codyrichardson6038 3 года назад

284 Winchester and it’s improved versions are HUGE in fclass competitions. I love mine, have two fto fclass and just built a hunting rifle with the same reamer. Hard to beat them!

@johnbacon1082 3 года назад

long range I like the 6.5 06 or 7stw are both hard to beat! My go to for regular deer hunting is the 6.5x55

@michaelrihel9584 2 года назад

Just ordered .284 brass for a rebarrel job on a tikka. As usual, Ron, great presentation!

@bustabass9025 2 года назад

6.5-284 Norma is a great iteration of the 284. Necked down to .264 cal/dia it is a flat shooting and deadly accurate round. It is also a joy to reload to some pretty exacting capacities. I use mine as an all around, go to rifle for many hunting situations.

@rickfrostman9191 3 года назад

Super interesting. I've had one for many years

@RonSpomerOutdoors 3 года назад

Good to hear

@browngreen933 8 месяцев назад

Around 1966 my WW2 vet father put down his 8mm Mauser bolt action sporter and bought a new Winchester Model 100. But he got the .308 version because he wanted the standard military caliber. I still have the gun with its Herter's scope.

@SteveSiwak-sv8sd 2 месяца назад

Iv got my grandfather's 284win 280rem and his 264 and 25-06 glad I got into reloading

@oldhunter1000 3 года назад

The Winchester Model 88 & 100 were really outstanding, however they never lived up to the accuracy I expected. I am totally in love with the 284 Win. I moved on to the 7mm Rem mag and carried the extra recoil and weight . You wisely pointed out there was no actual difference between the two. You picked the two bullets that I settled on to reload that 139 gr and the 140 gr. Good Video!

@RonSpomerOutdoors 3 года назад

Thanks David.