2GG Kongo Saga - Echo Fox | Mkleo (Joker) Vs T (Link) Winners Semis - Smash Ultimate 

I don’t know. Since the games release I’ve said Link was A tier. I have Link as a secondary and he’s by far my favorite character to play. Safe nair, good out of shield options, the remote bomb is a game changer, at 0% he has the strongest Fsmash in the game, he has a good but not great recovery. ( unless you learn the bomb tech) and not to mention he has the master sword 😂 fair kills early, up tilt is an amazing move, he literally has everything you want in a character

@@Thecrimsonchin0 Agree on everything, and most top players seem to think too that Link's easily a high tier. But you barely see him in competitive play that's too bad, I hope players like T are gonna bring back the Link hype a bit.

I feel like once people get really good at optimizing all of Link's tech (like T is for example) he'll be a force to be reckoned with! He definitely has a lot of potential, and he is pretty technical so in the right hands he can be devastating

@@Thecrimsonchin0 he's not fast enough.

@@Thecrimsonchin0 except frame data but yeah very solid character overall defo high tier

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국스월드- 신차패키지 I am also a Link main and I watch a lot of T because he helps me learn Link better because I’m very run in combo play I never used my boomerang as a good combo starter

He spams Nair so much it’s boring I know it’s a great move but still

@@smashbroshandro9786 that's more of a Link problem.

Samuel Cho disagree

IKR

Lmao why did he do that

@@sebaschan-uwu yeah lol

@@sebaschan-uwu I think he meant to regrab fast fall nair but pressed down before A

@@PabloCardonaMusic yeah I’ve accidentally done that before

the suffer of every link

Lxl happened to me before

"Decent" fight? He did much more than that.

That was a really good fight, he may have Self Destructed the last game but damn that spike would have worked on any other Joker main

@@idonthavh1n166 yeah spamming arson smashes most broken mechanic

He self-destructed, but he got baited damn fucking hard.

Yes, he did no other moves, what a jabroni /s

Great fundamentals (knowing your out of shield options, rarely missing your common opportunities, good spacing) separates the good players from the bad players and covers 90% of the game. But having the extra tools/tech separates the great from the good. Nair does a lot, but if he only did it without being able to threaten the rest of the toolkit, he'd get bodied.

I mean he switch to Fair on high percentage

I've been watching lately a bunch of crayzgunz on twitch, he's kind of a newer link main I've seen rise as of late. Fun cause the streams are small enough you can play games and what not. But other than that you got sillintor killing it as usual. But I agree there's mabe like 10 top player links out there.

MK is carried by arsene

SuPEr nInTENdo FaN yeah all the other joker mains placed first or 2nd in every event this season right

@@supernintendofan5311 Name another Joker mAiN that's a top player. I'll wait.

SuPEr nInTENdo FaN your salty little boy, aren’t you? Or are you trying to bait?

Zech SSB well tweek picked him up (can’t really say he’s maining him right now, but he is using him to great effect). Also, zackary

Koe Lee *Joker mains rise up.*

I know man Link is such an underated character, imo he has the potential to become a top tier but not many people play him, especially since he is REALLY hard to master. But he's got some crazy bomb loop combo's and setup's.

Who's your favorite Link main?

@@giygaswashere2808 frenchtutor_ for sure. I think his bomb plays are the most creative and impressive.

@@koelee He's amazing indeed! I was complimenting his playstyle on the Linkcord not long ago

あんなに深く阻止にこられたら誰でも反応しちゃいそうw

Yeah they are giving him pointers about arrows and bomb usage... It's like these people have never been to a tourney before and have no idea what it takes to travel and make it all the way to 5th place in a tourney that is stacked as well as this one~ You just cant go for flashy stuff against the best in the world in a match up that is bad for Link, T did as well as he did becuz he stuck to the fundamentals as he always does, he only did what was usually safe moves but this freaking MKleo lul

Nair

Yeah just spam Nair and Fair, no skill/combos whatsoever

anu501st best link in the world doesn’t have any skill nor does he combos? Sounds kinda sketch

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ヨクバリスバリス 8:40 は「うまいなー…(苦笑)」にしか見えんのやけど。ちなみにLeoの右側で見切れてるしゅーとんさんの口も「うまっ」と読み取れる。

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Thnx for the clarification!

Naruhodo naruhodo

満足さぁぁん！

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シーケン nigga what (Nigga)

So you've never seen Mkleo vs Tweek, Samsora or Marss? You should go watch the Konga saga Tweek vs Mkleo it's a great set.

It has to do more with fundamentals than nair and fair so it’s a lot more complicated than it looks here

He definitely spams nair but other than that he’s very good

@@sKolo843 Nair and Fair, damn near links only decent options in neutral. maybe side tilt after dashing away but the rest are just too laggy at this high of a level of play.

What a chad... That would be a flex play lol

Joseph Franc Yeah. Links bomb is especially versatile but T isn’t using it at all but he’s still doing good with Links severely underrated nair. I think this is an eye opener to what Link can do

@@alfonshedstrom9859 Yeah it is indeed. The bomb set ups are Links biggest strength and T is already keeping up well with Leo even without utilizing them to their fullest. That tells me a lot for sure. Tells me a lot of people are gonna get bopped sleeping on this character

Most characters are fairly balanced but I still feel like Kirby just doesn’t have the tools to be balanced in competitive play

I think low tier as a concept is vague, but there are definitely characters who's kit is just outright better than others. Ie Palutena and Joker.

@@LuxTensyn Only a fair few in my honest opinion. I dont think kanye characters outright BEAT all others with such oppression it's impossible to turn the tables. Only say characters like Kirby and Captain Falcon have a ridiculously unfair task of dealing with say Palutenas nair. But that's pretty much it. This game is really, truly balanced in a way I've never seen a fighting game go before. And we'll only learn more from here

Placing 5th at a stacked tournament with more than 900 entrants is nothing to sneeze at. As a Link main, he's done us proud.

Been a Link main since N64

Link main lul

spam neutral A, what a spam

@@anu501st Its clear you don't play Link, absolute troll.

Lxl yeah

NAIR

As a link main I can tell you his frame data really isn’t good but good links and especially T know how to take advantage of Links fast fall ability to make aerials more frequent

@@LoofTroop yeah let me nair you when we talk about it

@@LoofTroop link nair is negative 2 on strong hit and negative 3 on weak. It has 6 frames of landing lag. Sheik fair is -2 and has 5 frames of landing lag. Your point?

@@helpssb2698 Having one amazing move doesn't mean a character has good frame data, Link is too slow on everything else. Which is why he's usually upper middle tier

having one good move can definetley mean you have good frame data. You can use a move as many times as you need. If you think it wouldn't cover many options/only be useful in a handful of situations than you would be wrong. Due to having a 90% fall speed increase when fast falling (majority of the cast has a 60% increase) he is able to mixup the time he falls with a nair. fast fall nair and non fast fall nair are almost entirely different options. Additonally, he can cross up nair, so link has this many options with this one move: Fast fall nair non fast fall nair cross up nair cross up fast fall nair if people start challenging him before the move comes out, wavebounce boomerang covers him. Additonally back air has very good frame data. His moves either have really good frame data, or very large hitboxes. His frame data is fine. Also i have never seen anyone say link is mid tier except near the start of the game.

Yes he has

あかん やろうとしてた所は序盤に見えたから狙ってたとは思う

Leoレベルのガードの固さ、プレイングの巧さともなると始動も一苦労

Yes but i think the problem is mkleo might not have let him. T was kinda forced to just rely on nair most of the time

Big Toblerone I agree but the only thing we can truly evaluate is T’s previous matches to see if mkleo truly wasn’t letting him and after seeing all his matches he seems to only play with links sword style and doesn’t seem to bother using arrows or bomb set ups.

He got 5th at one the most stacked tournaments of the year. Maybe, just maybe, there's a reason why he plays Link the way he does.

Idk joker is so much faster and link isn't going to convert grabs to more damage except at low percent, probably wasnt safe/worth it to throw out grabs.

NotedNuance no option’s ever truly safe if predicted. and I’d say it’s worth it off the merit of Leo having to respect the option and not just camp in shield as much as he was

@@sentientmeat96 by worth it I mean that even if successful it wont turn in to much damage and more likely than working it will get punished. You dont see a lot of grabs in these high level tourneys for ultimate unless the character makes good use of the throw. Meaning either it's a kill move or converts to a combo for damage.

NotedNuance I agree with you that you don’t see it a lot from most of the cast, and that Link would be categorized in that “most”. I do think, as the meta progresses, grabs will become more commonplace. This game is a lot like PM- even having several of the same top tiers- and in the early years of PM grabbing was the least common option in the RPS of neutral.

Yes it links at certain percents

I just feel like a lot of links shy away from dair bc of the landing lag but it really has a lot of good uses as an areial punishment. Pretty impressive to see how well T does without using links full toolset tho

In some matchups it's great. I have experienced the Joker matchup though and it's too easy for him (or any fast character) to run to the side and hit you out of it or shark your landing. It's definitely good in certain matchups though.

nair to grab has strict spacing, whereas nair to hero spin is pretty safe guaranteed damage.

@@PinoyYoung that makes a ton of sense, links grab is one of the fastest but has a very short range and the frames it takes to microspace would allow shield

Totsuka y0t school T brings the hype :(

Gotta pay the bills.

Sad... but it's hard to be an adult and play smash because it's not a job but it takes a lot of time

Nooo....but life comes first always. At least he’s going out on a bang!

@@wealthforthecommoners3146 Same with every competitive game

Wolf: kills at 80 with back-air and 50 with down-smash at ledge... I mean when you think about it the numbers don't mean as much as the callouts

Killing at 110 isn't that early

Bayo’s up air doesn’t even kill at 140% literally outside of the blast zone lmao

Joker can also kill with back-air at 80 and with Arsene its hitbox size increases and has a big hitbox. Joker even without arsene is better than Sheik and many other characters. Your callout is bad

Leo mains Joker while everyone else mains Arsene

@@mechakucha_ amen