It`s weird to know that both Pac & BIG was trying to leave their record labels they were on, respectfully Death Row & Bad Boy Entertainment. And they both were talking about starting their own record companies and then they both ended up dead. And knowing on top of all that Pac never really trusted Suge and BIG never really trusted Puffy.
@@willt8848 Yeah he was. If you ever seen the Makaveli CD insert, at the bottom of it, it said something like “Exit 2Pac, Enter Makaveli” and was on Makaveli Records imprint
All the above. It's like hearing Kobe giving props to Jordan. That's LOYALTY. Kobe, the assassin mentality was already in him! It was the same w Pac! I loved Pacs Music Prior to Death ROW. Death Row was fitting n I was glad he was in the West because that was the home of Gangsta RAP basically. Pass name is fitting w Dre, Snoop, N.W.A. D.o.c., Dj Quick and even TOO $Hort ICE T and it's bugging me to go ahead n mention Ice Cube by name. He was L A. when I moved there. Bump him or Easzy and you were in. Lol! But, Pac would've been Pac wherever he went. That Thug, gangsta was going to come out! Some form or fashion. He wasn't gone run w nerds or Nunns! Feel me and his mind was on revenge!!
@@shawnsmith2540 facts that’s how you know Pac was smart as hell still got these people thinking he’s dead after alll these years 😂 the closest people next to him said that was apart of his plan he studied Makaveli 💯 his last album said Exit 2pac enter Makaveli so I’m a sense 2Pac is dead the name itself not the person 😎
It was actually 9 days before he died and 3 days before he got shot. The day after he said that he cancelled that shit, because he fell out with Suge. According to Michael Moore, who was his bodyguard, he said he wanted nothing else to do with death row.
@@melvinhhcp3615 Means absolutely nothing. Death Row was beating and killing niggas daily, it made no sense to go against Death Row publicly while they still owe you money. How they don’t understand this is a mystery
They said this in the 2pac: Dear Mama documentary episode 5. How 2pac was leaving Death Row and he fulfilled his Death Row album contract. But Suge kept bringing him with the nonsense with the Death Row East crap. His sister even said, how 2pac was on the phone talking to Suge and they were arguing on the phone about it. And how he didn't want to go to Vegas. He reluctantly went.
Really? Because in pacs last sway interview 2 months before he passed and in his personal writings and plans he had no intentions of leaving deathrow. Y'all gotta be careful with people that try to rewrite history, but at the same time idk what his sister knows or didn't know. But a few people have said pac and his mama weren't really seeing eye to eye when he passed and his wasn't really seeing eye to eye with his sister when he found out about her and Edi's relationship
His former bodyguard Michael Moore (RIP) said on camera in the Tupac Assassination documentary that he had to deescalate a physical confrontation between Suge and Pac over increasingly more volatile situations..
2pac was the rap Messiah, he never had no day ones because he was loved every where he went, ppl wanted to hear n see him if he moved to the Carolinas we would have surrounded him he same way
Pac spoke on all of this when he was alive. RIP to Pac dude can’t rest in peace. Pac never got in trouble when he was on death row until the Vegas fight when he lost his life on deathrow Pac was on another level everyone was gonna bail him out and no one said anything when he was alive but decades later everyone has something say lol
You said he never got into any trouble before the incident in Vegas? If I'm not mistaken something popped off at a cookout and he pulled a gun on some guys and the gun ended up hitting the ground and one of the guys with him picked it up and it went off hitting and killing a little boy
@@wesseywes3197 I wasn't sure of the time period but I know they sued his estate. He did a lot of crazy stuff no matter if it was before or after deathrow but people overlook all of that and say he was real
@1:15 daaaamn pac was such an endearing dude. Dude would literally make a song about someone after meeting them one week before. That's a person with a huge heart right there
Some people just perpetuate the narrative; even those who knew Pac personally at some point. Some stuff just make it too obvious that some of these dudes just be watching the same videos we all seen. Pac banging makes no sense. Especially when the man literally explain his stance on “Blasphemy.” As per Kato and Mental, Pac took that just as personally as Tasha and Yummy. He clearly didn’t need to know people “his whole life” to understand the significance of their lives. Not to mention the young lady he read about in a paper that inspired “Brenda’s Got a Baby.” It’s sad to see people not wanting to admit they wasn’t as close to Pac at the end as they were earlier in his career. Just say ‘you don’t know.’
Exactly. Macadoshis wasn't even around pac when he got out. And to say he was leaving deathrow when he had all these plans for deathrow just don't add up.
Yea I never heard of "Out The Gutter", must have been sumn he had prior.. he was startin Makaveli Records on Death Row/Interscope is wht he told us.. he wasn't about to leave, not no time soon like everybody be talkin about
So many confusing stories from people. The pre Death Row people always hating on DR. Death Row people speaking bad on his earlier days. Only PAC knows the truth. RIP Makaveli
@@rickk.4277 Pac's family presented audio & signed documents. Plus there's the Wendy Day interviews regarding this. She's credible & has no reason to lie. Pac was 1000% leaving, primarily for money reasons.
I believe my own eyes over these guy's stories. I saw Pac in the Deathrow East shirt 2 days before he was shot. I saw the MTV awards interview where he said Deathrow is our family and if they want drama we're gonna bring it to em like only Deathrow can. I saw the new MOB tattoo and ring, I heard him dissing Dre on Toss it Up for leaving Deathrow. Everything in his life was Deathrow, thats the reason he was comfortable traveling to the East Coast and why not many people would diss him back. He felt untouchable being on Deathrow, no way in hell he was going to war with so many people and he was gonna leave his protection and make them his enemies in the process.
If you know anything about Malcolm X...the parallels are crazy. Malcolm joined a new organization after prison. So did Pac. They both took the spotlight and others within their organization became jealous of them. Both were closely surveillanced by the government. Both felt stronger with their organization and had more "muscle" until they left (or threatened to leave). Both had great influence over society. Both were killed after internal conflict with their organization.
@@MrTee12o both were probably murdered by a plethora of entities, including higher ups who seen their influence as a threat from within and outside of their respective organizations realistically. Both had legitimate messiah characteristics as well. Unfortunately ALL messiahs historically become martyrs through crucifixion from those threatened assisted by those envious of them ultimately especially the black ones literally going back to Yeshua Hamaschiac.
All of these millions of interviews regarding 2pac sounds very convincing and good but one fact will always remain; we'll never know the real truth or details because this man is deceased.
What MC Eiht and Ice T said in regards to how backwards Pac had moved, certain individuals, upon watching those interviews, just emotionally fell apart at the seams.
Plus all my homies wanna die call it wicked nature dear lord look how sick this ghetto made us sincerely lord imma thug a product of a broken home niggaz all dope up nigga what you smoking 🚬 on
@@JaeRocReacts It’s never been confirmed as a fact. He was throwing Death Row East signs up a week before he passed. Makaveli Records was supposed to be a subsidiary under the Death Row label apparently. Most that say Pac was leaving Death Row are the ones that Pac stopped f’in with when he got with the label. He was riding with a new crew
I thought he said Pac and him didn’t really talk any more? How did he know all these different specific things as if they were still talking? How much of this info was told to him personally from Pac and how much of this what he learned watching the documentaries/ interviews?
@@lucasmcdonald7302 Good question. A conspiracy would be you and me getting together to do some crime. A theory is an idea that's presented by somebody, which may or may not be true. A conspiracy theory would be somebody else creating an idea about me and you getting together to commit a crime. You can be arrested for a conspiracy but not for a theory.
2Pac didn't live long enough after the release of "All Eyez on Me"to receive royalties. It don't work like that. Death Row hadn't received royalty checks yet, so hoe could he? Plus, this guy was locked up, so, on this matter, he don't know fully. Yet, I'm sure there were money issues because 2Pac was mad he was not being paid relative to his stardom
Out Da Gutta was finished Pac murdered that with Thug Life He was on something else rightfully so, Rated R And Mac was supposed to be on that imprint Pac told us what time it was He felt loyal to people who got him home He wasn't going to pull a double jeopardy
Imagine if Master P signed 2Pac on No Limit Records. 2Pac collaborating with C-Murder, Mystikal & Soulja Slim, with Beats by the Pound on the production.
It’s ALWAYS those that weren’t around Pac in his last days that speak for his intent. Stop condoning these assumptions! Especially from those not qualified to speak on his decision at that time. Pac wasn’t trusting a soul what makes one think he’s confiding in so many people that WEREN’T around. Let it go!
He ain’t the enemy he just ain’t keeping it all the way right you got to listen to Ms Afeni in her interviews after Pac had died she found out somehow that Suge reconstructed Pac contract to get more money off of his album sales cause Interscope been robbing him since his first album and Interscope don’t even have the right to the albums All Eyez On Me or Interscope and I really think why Pac changed his name to Makaveli was the same when Prince changed his name just to the Symbol to get out from their concert with the label cause if you go purchase those two albums I just said the last time I purchased a physical copy Interscope label wasn’t on the back of cd
One thing that a lot of the people that were around 2pac get wrong is that All Eyez on me was a double album but only had one title so it only counted as one album and that's been confirmed long ago. He became Makaveli and that would've allowed him to make other deals with other record companies and distribution deals since being 2pac he was signed to deathrow through interscope and owed them another album after makaveli before he'd fulfill his contract. I believe he might've still worked closely through deathrow but had other deals that he made so that he could be more in control of his money and future recordings.
Incorrect.. The album actually was scanned as 2 albums. then they also sold book one and 2 as individual albums you could buy separately. So if you bought the double, it counted as 2 albums and if you bought an individual book it was counted as one. This has been confirmed
It wasnt that the name of the label he was working on, it was makaveli records and it was under death Row unbrella as mention by PAC in as the world turns demo, because they erase that part on the retail version
I do believe he wanted to leave DR. Especially after hearing his aunt say that 2 weeks before Vegas she personally saw him on the phone yelling that he was gonna burn down DR studios…yelling about his masters. That’s why I don’t understand why he took off on orlando like that. Just doesn’t make much sense…
He did have day ones around him Mopreme, Yak, Edi, Kendrick, and Mouseman in the beginning but he left went back to Baltimore. Anyway WTF some broke ass day ones gonna do, Pac was his own man you couldn't tell him isssh!!!
According to sources, Craig Mac was supposed to be running deathrow east. Pac was going to start his own label called Makaveli records, which would have been signed under Deathrow.
The day after he said that death row east stuff he cancelled it, because he fell out with Suge. According to Michael Moore, who was his bodyguard, he said he wanted nothing else to do with death row. Just wondering how uninformed y'all are and yet decite to speak up...
What people forget, is Makaveli would NOT have counted as his third album…it was recorded to be a free mixtape. It turned into an actual release once he passed.
@@kerry2921 correct, but he didn’t want it to be an album…as explained by Deathrows marketing manager Poppa G. They even changed the track list before it was actually released, still to this day “watch ya mouth” has not made an album. Others have.
@@tc_thornton pac wasn't leaving DR, he needed their protection, the dude was going up against some extremely heavy hitters, people don't know that Jimmy henchmen drug trafficking brought in millions every month, jimmy and puffy were friends, they would have destroyed pac, he knew he couldn't leave DR, nobody else could protect him, he couldn't keep friends he would turn on them, he wasn't even talking to shock g anymore and he gave him his start
What are you talking about? Dude shots videos for songs on the Makaveli album. Even stated that he would take him dissing Nas off of it before it was released. For a man trying to fulfill his record deal obligation, that sounds like a whole lot of work for nothing. Tracks get added and deleted from official albums all the time before release but that does not mean he wanted that to be a mixtape.
I don’t know the particulars about him wanting to leave but I do know a week prior to his death he was screaming Deathrow and Deathrow East. He was also with Suge in Vegas I punched a dude over a Deathrow chain 🤷🏿♂️
Yea, if you go by pacs actions, and his own words, he wasn’t leaving death row, he was bout to start more business ventures with them niggas lol.. shit crazy lol
@@kierrickedmond Right, we gotta stop listening to people Pac left behind on his journey. There is no way this guy could have known PAC’s feelings toward the end. He wasn’t even around him.
On top of Pac receiving multiple cars, 2 houses, apartments, unlimited PRIORITY studio time, shits crazy him feeling cheated?? Wtf lol Only been there a year versus Snoop being there 4 years never said anything about being cheated til they all left
Are you crazy?! They owed $17M-$18M according to his contract stipulations. He died with less than $100K in his bank account. I personally did the math, then re-verified it once I read over Afeni's lawsuit paperwork against Suge & Death Row. She sued for the full amount that he was owed, but settled for $14M. SHE WON THE COURT JUDGEMENT! That means Death Row owed him money.
Pac had Death Row audited in May/June of 96 before he went to Italy to do Versace's fashion show. He knew everything by early August when he finished recording Makaveli.
@@melvinhhcp3615 Makevelli was supposed to be a mixtape..All Eyez On Me was not out long enough and with his bail the videos production and promotion there was a lot of fees to be recouped and in the history of the business of music have there been a royalty check cut in a few months..
@@Wondertroy1TV Makaveli was an album! The rights to it got signed over as part of Pac's push to get off the label. That was his 3rd album for the label... Afeni won a lawsuit proving Death Row owed Pac money. She sued for $17M-$18M & was rewarded $14M. Go check the court docs. You've been severely misinformed.
If 2Pac felt some type of way about Suge he wouldn't have rode w/ him (literally in the same car, no security) until the end. I've noticed all these people talking bad on Suge didn't even know him like that, or had some type of problem with him, or barely ever was in the same room with Suge + 2Pac at the same time. How you gonna talk on their friendship if you weren't around in those moments?
@@anthonybrooks1559 he was out of prison , pending appeal and in the custody of Kenner. That's why people close to him say he really didn't want to go to Vegas but he went anyway. Without obligation, not wanting to go he would not have simply because he didn't want to.
I've been waiting for this explanation for a long time. Evadently, Pac was leaving and about to put out some good music with his artist ... dam*, I could've had another thug life album to put on repeat.
It is funny how Pre-DR Pac's close circle especially those he cut off when he went to the Row keep hating on DR. Pac was banging for DR like how gangbangers bang for their hood. Destination DR finally I found home. This royalty stories are just hearsays, AEOM was out by Feb and the man died in September of that same year. His last track he ever recorded "ALL OUT" he was yelling and shouting out DR. His last words on wax were: "My label, the notorious, untouchable Death Row".
Tupacs showed he wasn’t leaving Death Row. Makaveli Records was gonna be to Death Row what Shady Records is to Aftermath or Young Money is to Cash Money
Tupac was talking about wanting to sign with Death Row in that gun range interview which was prior to rape allegations. So he must’ve been thinking about doing that for a couple years already
Frank ain’t do what he was supposed to do as a bodyguard he let the big lights get to him he might as well been a homeboy that night in Vegas instead of a bodyguard if we being real about the situation
@@toorealforearth1981 Pac told Frank to drive the outlaws. He wanted to drive with Pac and Suge. But I believe him and Suge was discussing him staying but 2pac declined. That gave the signal for him to be shot.
@@apocalipsdoebermen8376 he ain’t if someone is my bodyguard and I tell them no you drive the Outlawz I’m riding with Suge him being his bodyguard knowing what just happened in the MGM lobby he was supposed to say hell no I’m driving you and put people around him just in case something like that happens but no he was getting told to not do his job and he became delusional about the situation and let other people tell him it was other people fault instead of his fault for not doing his job and when he realized it was his fault he did what he did to himself cause of the guilt of not doing his job and before you make excuses for him I guarantee the secret service that was supposed to protect Kennedy and Reagan the people that were supposed to check and make sure the parameters were all up to par didn’t make them checks guarantee they got fired for it
@@almightytre3730 naw he didn’t do enough he froze up when the car got shot up he didn’t get the license plate number he didn’t get a good description of who was in the car he didn’t ram the car he didn’t give chase he didn’t do a lot he was always putting the blame on Reggie when he could have made a call to him to say we need more people over here until we get to the club cause it was some hour’s that went by before the shooting happened so I’m pretty sure if he would have made that call and put some concern behind it Reggie would have sent more security but Frank didn’t
“I gotta keep it real I was leaving death row” -Mystery 2 “Label me a success I made the switch, retired from a life that never gave me shit, but cash that I couldn’t spend and countless cars a addict for a wife my life as a ghetto star”
This is a false narrative. Pac was getting robbed, just like the rest of Death Row's artists. He found out about it, got pissed, then wanted off label. Simple. This isn't rocket science.
@@marionnichols7442 And the day after he said that, he cancelled it because he fell out with Suge. According to Michael Moore, who was his bodyguard, he said he didn't want nothing else to do with death row.
Suge owed millions to Tupac, the record deal was for a million dollars.. All Eyez on Me sold 6 million copies that’s $60 million dollars to Death Row and ofc the artists weren’t getting shit and Tupac recouped the deal but Suge wouldn’t let him go
If Biggie would have thrown a charity event to raise money for Pac bail I think things would’ve been different. I agree with him about Pac not having a home. But he owed Suge so much money, I don’t think it was gonna be easy for him to leave.
Pac didn't owe Suge. Suge owed him. AEOM was 6x plat at the time of his death. You should research his DR contract & figure out what that actually implies money wise. Keep in mind AEOM sold for $26.99 per unit back then & even still now. Then there was the How Do U Want It Single. Maybe 3-4x plat alone. Pac was waaay in the green bruh. He didn't owe Suge nothing.
@ericrobertson4243 Suge is a business man. He wasn’t gonna let the most popular rapper ever just leave with no strings attached. Pac owed Suge money because Suge was legally robbing him.
Man, I remember seeing Macadoshis in an interview saying the same thing he is saying now right after 2pac died. I believe him and I think that's why Suge gave 2pac Death Row East records to keep 2pac around.
Macadoshis wasn't even around pac after Pac came home. And Suge didn't give him deathrow east, that was gonna be ran by Eric B. And Greg nice. 2pac was about to launch makaveli records and it was going to be distributed by deathrow.
