My -70 deg. Baffin boots have a plastic sheet that goes on the bottom of the boot, inside, under the liners. The pin holes in this sheet draw moisture down under them. I think there is a lot of warmth added because of an extra perferated layer. (1/16" thick with ten (10) 1/16" holes) These are by far the warmest boots i've walked in. The rest of your tips are spot on and the sound effects are great! 👌👍👉🤙
Thanks for another good video. I recently got severe frostbite on both my feet to the point where it is getting black. And I can confirm the tip about a boot size bigger as my boots were too small and it sucked the heat right out of my feet. Trust me you don't want to get frostbite this bad I can't go outside for more then two hours. But I'm thankful to God I didn't have to get my feet amputated.
There are so many great one out there. Try them all on and walk around the store to find the best pair for your feet. You take care of your feet. Your feet will take care of you. Thank you Casey for watching.
Great tips! I am always cold on my feet, always have. I agree what you say: no 1 Oversize the shoe! No 2: its the air that insulates, keep the loft, and no 3: not having insulation on your legs, ankles, head and neck will affect your feet. 🔥👍
Like the old saying: " You keep the core warm. The rest of you will be warm" . Thank you Campsite Sweden for watching. Looking forward to your next adventure.
Thanks Marine! I frostbit my feet when I was a kid, so I have suffered with cold feet. I will definitely try some of these tips. One great tip is to move to the Ozark’s. lol. God bless you, Brother. John
My wife wants to live in Phoenix Arizona during the cold winter months. So in a few years I will be winter camping in the desert. Hanging my hammock between two cactuses. Thank you John for watching. God bless
Once again you’ve given me some great info!!!!! I thought adding socks like layering clothes always helped, but looking back I remember all the points you mentioned happening. Thanks again and I also raised my hand.
Learned all these the hard way. Worked in -55°C with wind chill and had to warm up in the work truck at least every 15 minutes. I will say though that boot sizing varies drastically per manufacturer, some I would be swimming in and others would be too tight, so trying them on beforehand is very important. God bless.
I had some reflective insulation sheet left over from a project and so I made a pair of insoles for my cycling shoes and they made a difference. Having a bit of room in the shoes I added another layer (they do compress so you lose a bit of the air) but then went a stage further and made toe pieces and stitched them all together to form an airline slipper type insole - excellent results for nothing apart from a few brain cells and time.
I'm from Saskatchewan. Have you tried polythermal socks? They're thin and moisture wicking. I'm told the Inuit have a saying. "You sweat, you die". Basically don't sweat or you'll get cold. When playing sports outside in winter we'd layer up and take off as required.
I have yet to try them out. I am heading to the BWCA for a trek. I am always cautious about sweating. The huge problem is the extremely warm temperatures I will be experiencing. I will start off with alight jacket will a shell. And I know before long. When I start heating up. I will be trekking with just my long under top. Thank you Steelwheels for watching. I really appreciate it.
If you do a multiple day trek. Vapor barrier socks are a must. If you are not wearing them. After a few days in the field. Your boots will be wet. And you will be trying to dry the inside by the fire. I learned that one the hard way. Thank you for watching Craig. I always appreciate it.
Great tips. When you showed the foam mat I thought why not trace the insole on it and cut it out and use that for an extra insulation in the bottom if boot. May be too thick, but worth experimenting with.
I like the wat you are thinking. They would work great as long as they don't make the boot a tight fit. Thank you Scott for watching. I really appreciate it.
I've done that. It works but the foam gets compressed to about 1/8 inch thick after a couple weeks. Fortunately you can get many insoles from a single yoga mat.
My problem was, tying my boots too tight, without even noticing it, except when its too late,and i need to stop what I'm doing, and start warming my feet tec. Nowadays I hardly even tie my boots, and that works great. I walk or ride my bike 10-20km per day, 365 d per year, from +30 to -20 celsius. It's bit tricky sometimes, scratching my head, selecting "just right" clothes for that day...
Something else not mentioned, is getting boots that have removable insulation liners and make sure to have extra sets. This makes it much easier to dry your boots. The fastest way to cold feet and a miserable time is to start off by wearing a boot that is wet on the inside.
I tried spraying my feet including the bottoms with antiperspirant but I don't do it often because it contains aluminum oxide .My feet sweat less with antiperspirant. I also bring extra pair with me on long treks . One important thing I learned if I fall in water outdoors in freezing temperatures never take the boots off until an emergency fire is lit . This is because the wet boots will freeze hard in minutes and you will never be able to put them on .
So true about boots getting wet. That is why I like to wear vapor barrier socks on my winter treks. When the boots get wet ( from sweat ). In the morning. They are like putting on two blocks of ice. Thank you Kookamunga for watching.
When I am on a trek or a hike with some or a lot of distance. I am wearing Winter Hiking Boots. If the trek is more than 1 day. Than I will have vapor barrier sock on when moving. Thank you Manyfeather2Knives for watching. I really appreciate it.
My feet sweat a lot. It only takes about an hour to get my socks soaked and then my feet start to get cold. So the only way I can stay out when it is really cold is to use the vapor barrier with 2 pair of socks, but after 6 or 8 miles the vapor barriers will slide down and the wool socks, as well as the inside of the boot, get flooded so I have to stop and fix the problem. I have tried a lot of expensive boots but they all seem to be about the same. It is all about keeping the insulation dry with a waterproof barrier between my foot and the insulation. It is not about how long I am out but how much I walk that works the vapor socks down to where they don't do the job any more.
I'm from Minnesota. The most crazy warm winter boots I have are the Thorogood Mountain Ridge boots with 2,000 grams insulation. If it's -25F and you are just standing outside for hours with these boots buried in a snowbank your feet will be warm and toasty. No other boot I've ever had has that ability to keep my feet warm indefinitely at -25-30. These babies are artic grade. If you hunt and want to sit in a deer stand for hours and hours your feet will feel like they are in front of a toasty fireplace the entire time.
I am from Minnesota. But now live across the St. Croix River in Hudson. ( Cheese Head ). I have a pair of La Cross Ice Kings that either stand while ice fishing or Deer hunting. Like you, my feet never, not once have gotten cold. Bought them in 1988. And still going strong. Thank you Joem.7621 for watching. I really appreciate it.
I'm a Texas gal from San Leon. I married a man from Duluth and we bought a farm in Aurora. It's been 3 years and I've been gathering up a collection of warm clothes and information how to stay warm. It's been a challenge especially having fibromyalgia. Thank you for sharing what you know!
Hi. Great advice on boots. I wear British Military Altburg boots and are really comfortable. But on a side note…may I ask where you got your smock that you are wearing from, please? All the best.👍🏾🇬🇧
A bit larger boots than the fit ok it works they will keep warm. But moving around with oversized boots that is clumsy. aquard and tiresome the feets will slip back and furth side to side and after some serious walking there will be skin burns, blisters, that is no good. The Army will practice exactly that I know no one wants to wear their boots. If not in the freezing arctic a good pair of hike/hunter boots in the right size taking one pair of winter socks (wollen are the best) will be just fine and as I am looking out the window there is full winter lots of snow, no problem I can stay outside for hours. Maintenance is of an great importance.
I am not sure what I did wrong. I have a pair of Bugaboots from Columbia (Omni heat etc). When I wear them in Hokkaido Winter with a pair of Bridgdale Thermal socks, my feet inevitably starts to feel prespiration in between the toes. I'm simply wearing thermals and a pair of heatech jeans by Uniqlo which my thighs do feel cold, but my feet just keeps sweating. That feeling starts getting worse whenever I enter a warm zone.
My feet also sweat a ton. The biggest thing i did to keep my feet warm was to ditch the heavy socks all together. I now wear wool liner socks (ultra thin, but still wool). That reduces the sweating and keeps my feet warm. I also bring an extra pair of wool liners and switch to the dry pair half way through the day, and never wear a pair of boots two days in a row (to allow them to dry in-between uses). I am also going to try a spray antiperspirant on my feet... see if that eliminates the need to change socks at lunch, and hopefully eliminates the need for a second pair of boots. Side note. If you or your teenage kid has stinky feet, make sure you change socks EVERY day, and never wear the same shoes two days in a row. Will cure it almost immediately.
Absolutely! And you may have to go up another half size. It is so important that you try on a pair of boots with a thick wool sock. It should still be loose fitting ( to trap that warm air )and you should be able to move those toe freely. If your boots are tight. Your feet will freeze. Thank you Rodolfo Torres Galvan for watching. I really appreciate it.
Why doesn't timberland make an extreme cold boot? I have a pair of 400 gram chillbergs that are great down to about -10 to 0 fahrenheit but I want something good to -40
Timberland really just specializes in work boots and some hiking boots. My favorite boot for those extreme temperatures. Are the Steger Mukluks. They were the warmest at those temps. I have a pair of LaCross Icekings ( Pac boots) that are super warm. But unfortunately, they do not make them anymore. Thank you Robpeters for watching. I really appreciate it.
Oh it gets much colder here! But I love that -8 Celsius is shorts weather. You guys are tough as nails. Thank you ImGangster23 for watching. I really appreciate it.
The biggest mistake I used to make is wearing boots with too much insulation. 200 gram thinsulate is good for temperatures above 0° F. 400 gram is good to -20° and 600 gram for anything colder. Too much insulation causes your feet to sweat. That means wet feet which quickly become cold feet. Years of working at ski resorts as a snowmaker and lift operator has taught me the importance of the right gear.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine Totally wrong! And Zone can confirm that. Several lift operators bought winter boots with way too much insulation and are getting tons of sweat. You don't need to "move a lot" to have sweaty feet... Lift operators are not moving much since they're stationary (compared to the others).
I second that. Zone knows what he's talking about. also, avoid very thick wool socks. It's the second mistake (and related to the first one). The best socks are Merino wool, and go for medium or heavy thickness (Heavy is not ultra thick like some could believe it is).
In Sweden we usually have a wool liner sock and a thicker wool sock on top of it. This is still easy to move in and you buy the size of boot that will accommodate double socks. This will draw the moisture from your feet as well as keep the friction between the socks, not between your skin and the sock.
...BUGGER🙄 I just bought a pair of boots....without my brain🥴 soooo now i have a bran new pair for the next summer season...well boot shop,i'm comming back for you with TWO pair of socks🕵️
Just layer a couple of pairs of cotton socks, decent boot's with good COLD WEATHER TRACTION, that's essential....too many sole materials turn hard at -20 and below...slips and falls are your enemy....experience from the high arctic.
Here in the Carolinas, we only need winter boots about 1 week a year. I have had success with my kids just using rain boots and using their kids socks on, an oven bag for dryness, and then my adult Wigwam wool socks for warmth. The oven bags keep the feet dry and the wool socks keep them warm even if they get damp. This system works for the 2-4 hours of sledding we do a couple times each season.
As a kid growing up. My mother would save bread bags throughout the year. When winter came, on those wet slushy days. On would go the bread bags to keep our feet dry. Even if we didn't use bead bags. My friends and I would of been outside no matter what. Wet boots and all. Thank you for sharing that Timothy. Your making great memories.
I work standing outside in the wind in fields in Manitoba at -40°. The warmest socks I’ve found are mohair (like cashmere). They’re way more comfortable than wool, feel 2x warmer, and remain warm when wet. Also keep a dry pair with your lunch and change then.
In NZ there are sometimes socks made with a possum fur/mohair or possum fur/cashmere blend. (There are many with possum fur/merino wool blend. A lot warmer than pure wool.) The Australian brushtail possum is one of few animals with a hollow fur fibre. Great insulation. The cashmere/possum blend socks are not very durable though. (The Australian possum is protected in Australia but an invasive predator pest species in NZ.)
@@gregvanpaassen Believe it or not, my in-laws brought me a pair of these socks from their trip to NZ. They are definitely better than wool and, if they were as thick as the goat mohair socks I have, would likely be as warm. Polar bear fur and caribou fur have hollow hairs but they tend to break
So I live in Alaska, it snows 7 months out of year, everything is covered in ice in that time, even in cities like Anchorage, Fairbanks, and Kenai. So traction is my biggest priority because staying warm is second nature to us here(my socks are huge artic socks😊) I've also found if you spend time in -50 below weather, it can wear out boots really quick. Ice is the biggest obstacle here, its a serious problem for at minimum 5 months a year, so ice cleats are a must. Love this video, thank you, have a great winter! 🙂
Yep...some sole materials become rock hard at -20 and below....it can be a serious issue....I can always add a layer of socks for insulation, but if my soles have no purchase on the surface? It's a problem....one can slip and fall, which is embarrassing in itself...but you could sustain a serious injury or be unable to preform in a an emergency...I've experienced these difficulties that I don't see widely discussed.(side note:I hate spikies)
It´s not wrong to wear double socks, however, the inner sock needs to be a thin liner sock, and the outer needs to be big enough to not constrict the bloodflow.
1) If you buy proper boots you don't need to oversize. Stop being cheap! You can be barefoot and warm if you buy properly rated boots. 2) You don't need socks with proper boots to keep your feet warm, however you'll want socks to protect your liner from foot sweat so it lasts longer. 3) I actually agree with. You're sitting there at -8 Celcius and calling that cold. We wear shorts and sandals at -8. I've been fishing on the ice at -48 Celcius, barefoot in my boots, and warm as can be. And remember that ice fishing you are stationary so no movement to keep you warm.
Living in the desert SW, I always had cold feet. Then we moved to Minnesota and I started buying cold weather pants and taller boots. Then I heard a fellow say "The key to warm feet is to keep your calves warm". This made the difference, not to mention all the pointers in your video about proper footwear. But if the blood arrives cold, your feet have no chance.
You read my mind. I was so cold the other day when I went sledding with kids and was wondering what went wrong. I wasn’t that cold before. Now I know. Tight lacing and double cotton socks. Probably contributed to the problem.
That would of done it. Remy is so right. Try to stay away from cotton. There is an old say in the field. " Cotton Kills " Thank you Sang Kim so much for sharing that and watching. I always appreciate it.
Hello. Soldier from north europe here. Great tips. That sock rule is altought half correct. Use big wool socks to insulate over your thinner merino socks. They are not too tight.
What you said about wearing two pairs of socks is true, but I am a firm believer in wearing two pairs of wool socks. To avoid the two sock pitfall, I wear regular size wool socks against my foot, then a bigger size on top. I also bought my boots not just in a bigger size, but in a wider size than normal. I also concur with the "lacing boots too tight" idea. I always laced them up tight and had problems with cold and toe hammer. I noticed when I had my boots tied loose in slipper mode for getting in and out of the hammock quicker, my feet were warmer and pain free. Now I only tighten my laces as much as needed. If its a little loose for the terrain, I can always tighten them up.
@@AdventureswiththeMarine We double-socked in the CAF all the time, but our issued kit was made with the concept of layering in that way; as a civie, you have to do that extra math of putting on oversized socks as George mentioned
I 100% agree with you on buying wider shoes and boots. Not just for hiking or hunting, but every day comfort. For too many years I wore regular width and my toes paid the price by the end of the day. A few years ago I started buying 1/2 size larger and extra wide in my everyday shoes. They might feel a bit loose for 30 minutes, but if you are on your feet any length of time you’ll realize how quickly your feet swell. Really makes a difference.
Well.. Not gonna lie, I wish I saw this before I bought my winterboots.. But I suppose I got off pretty cheap for this experience ($250).. Thanks for teaching me, Master + subbed to your channel, :)
I always like to learn the hard way. That way. I never make the same mistake. Thank you Hollyicious for watching and subscribing. I really appreciate it.
I've tried all the suggestions you've given us at one time or another and they ALL work really well! Smart Wool (merino wool) is still too scratchy for me so I've switched to alpaca wool socks and mittens which are much softer and equally as warm. Love to see you out enjoying the wilderness. Keep those videos rolling in. Thanks for sharing.
@@parnold-mora8924 Oh that sounds pretty reasonable. Have you had any problems with bugs or moths trying to eat wool? I've already had that problem with merino wool.
Great suggestions! A lot of folks really resent winter where I’m from in NWPA. I’m of the attitude that we live here…we might as well embrace it! I’ve found that by participating in fun outside winter activities (in my case, cross-country skiing & snow-shoeing) I enjoy & look forward to winter every year. Good boots & socks are certainly necessary for this!
Yo that's like ENTIRELY the opposite of half the population of my home town lol despite being a ski town a lot of people just choose to ignore the fact that it's -8c
Great video brother. I ran into a pair of Baffin boots several years ago at a Salvation Army store.they were in brand new condition,i really don't think they were ever used. I paid 25.00 for them !!! Ive worn them through several winter's here in New England .they are great boots. I also use a pair of Bates military issued boots that work pretty good and a pair of Sorel boots. When the shit hits the fan ,i go for the Baffin's ,those Canadian's know gear !!!
The Canadians always make great outdoors gear. And that is because they have experience. You don't want to by a winter boot from Jamaica. Thank you Robert for watching. I really appreciate it.
By your accent I'm guessing you're from the midwest? I'm from northern New England where it also gets extremely cold. I enjoyed watching your video for the good advice and I got a kick out of your accent. You'd probably get a kick out of mine too. Thank you for your service and happy Thanksgiving!
I live next to Lake Superior with livestock and spent years in Security Forces and then Infantry. Overall, this was solid sir. I disagree on the socks piece though. In my experience liner socks absolutely have a place in my winter footwear system, specifically thin merino wool liner socks. I appreciate your channel man, carry on. 👍🏼
Proper fit of boot should be obvious. The vapour barrier sock is the best single strategy. I have worked outside at minus54 C and have skied miles in minus 25 to minus 30 in thin leather boots with good sox and a vapour barrier. I use vapour barrier every time I think I will be out for more than a few hours. Vapour barrier sox are his best suggestion.
I wear Merino Wool Socks with the old Military boot and Liner 1 size larger than my regular size and my feet stay warm. I do keep the boots well coated with Mink Oil every year using a blow dryer to melt the Mink Oil into the stitching.
Here's a crazy idea. Start with a thin nylon sock, like calf-high pantyhose. This will let your foot slide with less friction, reducing blisters. Then, put on the wool sock for insulation. Then, put on another nylon sock to protect the wool sock from friction against the boot. The nylons are so thin that their thickness doesn't really count.
I have also found that waterproof gathers in the snow are superb to keep your feet warm. They prevent snow from melting on your socks and be wicked down inside your boot. When you socks get wet at the ankle, it is just a matter of time for the humidity to get down to your feet and ruin the insulation.
Great Video ! Let me share a story and embrace the wisdom of old school. I was in Virginia Mountains at a resort. Forgot the name was 30 years ago. I was there with my wife and 3 kids and couple more families with kids. I put a shopping bag over the socks and on the top of the shoes I rubbed some vaseline. My mom used to do this to us growing up in a poor and communist era of Romania. Everyone laughs at me even my kids and wife, but they did it anyway. Guess what? When we came back at night after we did sleight, ski, and snow board and some tubing we came back to cabin me and my family express the joy day we had in this comfortable set up, of the feet wearing I made. Did I mention the agony of our friends feet ? God they wanted to go to cabin after couple hours, but somehow they pushed through but they were miserable, and I don't think they had as much fun as us, because we were comfortable . The wisdom of old school my mom taught me. If you have an elderly person in your life cherish and learn as much as you can. Many old ways are lost and it seams we will need every bit of knowledge in the future.
That is so cool. My mom would send us out into the winter wonderland with plastic Wonder Bread bags that she had saved all year. All of the neighborhood kids wore them. No wet feet for us. Those were special memories that I have shared with many. My uncle is 97 years old. I always take him shopping for food and goods. And try to have dinner every Friday. I not only learned about history. But also get to live it with his stories. You are so right. The old ways are fading. And most don't even realize it. Thank you Mariusneumayer for sharing that. I very much appreciate it.
You mention keeping space in the toebox, but how much space should you have in the liner of the boot? Tried on the boots that feel great, and next size up feels sloppy. The size that feels right the liner doesn't feel too tight, but not loose. Thanks!
I grew up in Michigan where we got lots of snow and cold. I also spent 24 years in the military with a lot of cold weather training. Wool socks are a must but, there are many of us that cannot have wool against our skin. To get around this I would wear a polypropylene inner sock or a very large pair of woman's pantyhose. And for those that don't move a lot in deep snow I would highly recommend that you try a pair of Danners. Especially, if you have problems with blisters. I think they're the best leather boot on the market, by far.
Sorry. I should of been more clear about that. What I should of said is when moving ( hiking ) you don't need more than one sock. When sitting ( ice fishing ) if the boots are large enough, if needed. Two socks. If they don't make the boots a tight fit. Thank you Razor for pointing that out.
I have always heard that a Beaver hat is the warmest. But I like to layer my head to regulate the heat. At that temperature. I will use a thin wool balaclava as a base layer. ( so you could pull it up over your nose. With you eyes exposed. When trekking in the wind. ) Then a wool or Alpaca hat over that. You can also layer hats. And last. I will always have a shell that has a hood, to trap that heat. The coldest that I have ever trekked in. Was -60° wind chill. But I believe that it was colder than that. But I did have goggles on to cover my eyes. Thank you Trevor G Welch for watching. I really appreciate it.
In snow i wear german hiking boots a pair of wool socks with a pair of cotton socks on my skin its worked so far the cotton wicks moisture through the wool sock...
I have a pair of Meindl boots that I bought years ago. I have put hundreds of miles on them, That the soles wore out. I love them so much that instead of buying another pair. I resoled them. And ready to hike hundreds of more miles. thank you Stephenwest for watching. I really appreciate it.
🇨🇦In Northern Canada: we wear ‘felt pack’ winter (snow) boots in ‘colder’ weather only - 25C & colder (with ONE pair of thicker ‘cotton’ socks). ❄️Your boots should be sized the same as your regular footwear. ✅A ‘properly’ manufactured boot (in ‘your’ size) should fit airy and firmly enough, to support your feet comfortably.☃️A good insulated ‘winter’ high back shoe, can be worn around town, in below-freezing weather. (Many of these ‘winter’ shoes/runners are also waterproof❕)
@@AdventureswiththeMarine It is ‘usually’ suggested to wear (wool) socks because they ‘dry out’ quickly!? 💦If your feet (or anything else) get wet in freezing temperatures… you’re going to die anyway!? 😂😮😊Ha ha!!
I have the Columbia Omni heat boot in a size 10, I wear a 9 1/2. I put a boot liner with a heat insole and my feet were warm in -0 degree temperatures.
Do you have any idea about the merino wool socks called People's Socks. I have those and a 400g thinsulate Danner Vital boots. How cold do you think I can be in with that setup with somewhat movement? Thanks
I have those Vasque Snowburbans with 400g Thinsulate. I have trek with them at temperatures in the -20's ( -30c ). I was warm even when I was done moving and setting up camp. But after that. On went the Mukluks. Thank you Pac_84 for watching. I really appreciate it.
I wear a mid height waterproof gortex La Sportiva summer hiking boot into the winter down into the 20s while hiking, i just wear a heavy wool sock. For colder hikes, fishing, camping in 20F or colder then ill wear actual winter boots
I worked 36 years outdoors down to 25 below. Learned a few things. 1 move, don't just stand around. Get work, get the blood flowing, get to making your heat. 2. I always went with wool socks, a light pair under a medium pair, and as you said, make sure your boots are big enough. 3. If you're wearing leather boots you'll be amazed at what a pair of 5 buckle boots over them will do for keeping warm. 4 keep moving, i know I said that twice but its important.
Make sure theyre breathable so moisture doesnt build up, something with gortex will be breathable and waterproof, a insualtion like PrimaLoft or Thinsulate instead of just layers of wool. Use marrino wool socks
Only problem in finding a winter boot is finding a pair that is extra, extra wide at the ball of the feet with a square toe......practically non existent....I am still looking for a pair. Custom you say...good luck in finding someone who can do it.
My feet keep growing. I am going to buy another pair of Mukluks size 15. I thought size15 were hard to find. But size 16. Good luck! Thank you fellipe29 for watching. I always appreciate it.
Some of the best are boots are made out of that insulated rubber. The old style of putting insulation inside of a regulate boot is orders of magnitude worse than making the boot out of a insulative plastic.
Oh, yes. Much better made. But if you want warm feet, I dont think you can get any better than a single layer insulation rubber boot. No wet dirty inserts that even when brand new are squished to pancakes.@@AdventureswiththeMarine
My favorite saying from my grandmother is “if your feet are cold, put a hat on.” I agree with all your advice, but a hat really warms your whole body. And stay hydrated - it makes a huge difference.
Your Grandma is so right. I talked about those two things in different episodes. The hat not only helps keep you warm. But also to regulate the heat by moving it up higher. Or taking it off. Thank you Amyduro for watching. I really appreciate it.
Great tips. Your the best. One additional item needed to keep your feet warm. After you have carefully selected the best footwear ‘top’ it off with an insulated, loose fitting, wind resistant hat. Your feet will be toasty. Gramma always said, if your feet are cold wear a hat.
People may think your Grandma is crazy. But it is so true. Why is it that Grandma knows best? Experience! Not science. Thank you Justwetwo for watching. I really appreciate it.