My dad's brother left home at age 17.. in 1947. We all live in North Carolina..No one ever heard from him again. I heard stories about him as a child from my dad , aunts and uncles. My dad had a black and white photo of him taken about a year before he left home. Decades passed. My precious dad passed away in 2013. He had one sibling out of 11 still living. In 2020 his sibling sent her DNA to every genealogy site available. In March of last year my aunt received a notice from a sheriff's department in Florida. In 2014 an elderly man was hit by a car while riding a bicycle and killed. No one could identify him. He was buried in an unmarked grave . His DNA was sent to the genealogy sites by the sheriff's department. After my aunt sent hers in, a match was made. 67 years later my aunt finally found out what happened to her brother. Sadly she passed away the following month. All 11 siblings are together again.. ♥ Stay safe everyone 🙏 Much love from North Carolina
@@dsmusicbird It's hard to say. He might have been running away from something, known or unknown, real or imagined. He might have gone into a "fugue state" and really did think he was someone else (with whatever background and name). He went somewhere else, lived under an assumed name, probably got documents of some type, worked, got married, had children, had a home, retired, and nobody knew - not even him, really. It's weird, but it happens.
I feel so bad for Brian's brother. He lost his Mom, Sibling, and Dad, all within a short span of time. Like, not only did you watch your Mother's health slowly degrade until she passed, you then had the lingering question of what happened to your brother, and then watch your father suffer the loss of his Wife and Son only to be taken out in a freak accident. Like Jesus, poor guy has to be suffering so badly.
Me too, that poor man! The thought of having my child disappear would be my worst nightmare. The wondering would drive me off the deep end. Just my cat going missing left me a distraught mess. I drove around sobbing and searching for hours on end, putting flyers in every mailbox and store front, so I can’t even begin to fathom it happening to my child! I wish more than anything this case could be solved.
I've always wondered if he went in a closed off portion of the building & slipped in between walls or became wedged somewhere. Crazy case, so sad for his family.
He was never seen leaving with all the cameras that was there some people believe his body in that building and I agree if he got stuck between walls in a secluded area.
Cases like this must weigh heavily upon these families. Not knowing whether your family member is dead or alive. The many scenarios running through your head. Always many questions but never any answers.
100%. the cops need to go into the building and use GPR and such. the original bar moved from that location (usually what the perp does when a crime happens at their place that they get away with).
ScaryPoppins --- Man, I love your name. LoL. I'm going to agree that he never left. I'm totally baffled as to WHY the dogs never even picked up on his scent, but I'm definitely convinced he was killed (accidentally or otherwise) that SAME night. No 2 ways about it! And, there's something very peculiar as to WHY you wouldn't want to take a simple Polygraph to clear any possibilities you might've either known something or been involved yourself. To me, when you're innocent you can't wait to take the test. You'd know it's just standard protocol they'd ask anyone, especially, close friends accompanying this person to the same location, the very same evening, and at the same time, to just take the test. So, you'd run to it and even ask for it with NO reservation when you're innocent; and also, while you're baffled as to what actually happened. But it's ALMOST ALWAYS someone with dirty hands, who refuses this test. That alone should've been a barometer for them that it's odd behaviour and that it's an indicator that something is quite off about this individual. When someone is missing, it's also usually, if not always, usually the people who were the last ones with the missing individual, or victim. I bet his body is still on, or around that property. The other, thing is, I'm not sure about the back doors, and I'm not sure if they're accessible to people, and if so, does it have CCTV or anything? If it's YES to both, and it was already analyzed and combed through with everything "clear", then that's an indicator he never left the premises of that Bar that fateful evening. But yea, again, if that was my friend, and I know I had nothing to do with it, it's nothing personal and no insult to me that they even ask me to take the test, it even shows their tenacity to resolve this. I'd run -- not walk -- to take the test and be vindicated of everything. The Shaffer family, also, has a presentiment something's amiss with this friend; if he didn't directly commit something he definitely knows way more than he's leading on. And I totally agree with their intuition. Show less Reply
@@bubblegum1948 I'd NEVER take a polygraph. They are nowhere near 100% accurate. Why give the cops a reason to make you a suspect? They want an arrest in the case, BAD! A little planted evidence here, a misconstrued statement there, and BAM.....you're arrested for a murder that you didn't commit! I'm not saying Brian's friend is innocent or guilty, I just agree with his choice of not taking the polygraph. I don't trust police any farther than I can throw them! Also, I would NEVER answer any type of questioning without my attorney present, even if I'm completely innocent! Nobody talks themselves out of an arrest, but a LOT of people talk themselves into one!
I lived in Columbus, Ohio nearly my entire life. The Brian Schaffer disappearance happened back when I was 21. Not too long ago, I drove through downtown and they still had his missing Billboard near The Elevator bar. It's scary knowing they still don't know what happened to him. It's like he just vanished into thin air.
I live in Columbus and met his father. His dad was convinced that he is still alive. Unfortunately, his father passed away without ever knowing. I think maybe he was killed in the bar and his body was stashed there.
@@heha4383 that one is very puzzling. I know the police have said that they have accounted for everybody in and out of that establishment but you really just have to wonder how the fuck that’s even possible that he can go in and not come out somewhere I could be thinking of a different case but if I remember correctly, there was some construction going on the back end of the bar and the possibility existed that he could have potentially albeit not easily, exited the bar via some back unorthodox access point. I would think that would almost certainly have to be the case, if we can trust the information with certainty that he never exited from the main point of entry I don’t see how it could be any other way I mean he didn’t leave the bar talked inside somebody’s hand bag he’s a human being, an adult man he couldn’t be easily secreted out of an establishment without being noticed him or his body a lot of times families of missing persons where no remains are ever found and there’s a lot of unanswered questions it’s not unusual to see family members believe or at least claim to believe that their loved one is still alive and I understand why it would be easy to feel that way because you never got any answers or closure but the reality of that is something else entirely. I don’t think it’s likely that he’s still alive the question that would beg to be answered then is where is he in? Oh if somebody had seen him leave or had some information on his whereabouts then yeah I guess anything is possible, but it is nearly impossible in this day and age for anyone to not leave a footprint of their existence all over with the means and methods that we function in our society it’s just impossible not to leave a footprint, digitally or otherwise it’s very difficult to live completely off the grid without there being any indication or extensive preplanning involved that one is very strange I mean it’s definitely possible that he went through a portal that he’s in another dimension although those situation’s don’t really seem to take place in highly populated urban environments the reason for that I have no idea that’s just the way it seems to go people just don’t disappear mysteriously without a trace truly and definitively in urban areas in general not saying it can’t happen. It’s certainly happens in other instances, but there again that’s a lot of people who would have to be looking the other way when it happened. That’s a lot of witnesses and circumstances that would have to be perfectly in alignment for that to take place and him to just disappear I don’t know it’s very puzzling. I don’t know what to say that one always Chyna gets mean because there’s obviously situations where people disappear all the time but they’re not literally disappearing right out from underneath peoples noses and there’s usually some indication, however uncertain it maybe there’s some indication as to what happened and there’s a number of realistic possibilities in this case there really isn’t a whole lot, you know he didn’t have any psychiatric or family issues. You know there’s just none of those pointers that would lead us in any direction as to what we should or could believe I don’t know it’s very puzzling. I might have to do some more reading on that case because I’m trying to remember if I’m remembering the circumstances correctly or if I’m thinking of another case and confusing, that too there’s definitely a lot of cases where people do go missing without much of a trace, but they tend to happen in a certain type of environment like I said where there’s not a lot of people around and in those cases I am very positive that and at least a portion of them those people are going through a portal if you want to call a dad or simply put go into another dimension I don’t know exactly how they do it. I don’t know if this is spontaneous happening or if there is certain circumstances and actions that lead themselves to that happening is that I’m not certain.
@Jordana Landry I really believe that the service door is where the mystery lies, if there was construction there then it's possible he fell down some sort of hole. Years ago in London there was construction taking place in canary wharf, a drunk reveller wandered across a construction site at night & fell between two low walls, the hole was partly filled with water, he was found deceased some time later. Not a pretty way to go. But Brian's case has always intrigued me.
I remember watching a show years ago that talked about how there was CCTV on the construction exit the entire time and Brian Shaffer never exited. They found the footage from another location, but you can clearly see the construction exit and he does not leave. At one point that night, two men carried a carpet out. They looked like workers so no one thought anything of it. The assumption is that Brian was in the carpet. I remember watching this grainy footage but never heard anyone talk about it again. I know I'm thinking of the same case because there's only one "Ugly Tuna Saloona."
Relax there Genesis part 1 is only a day old! These take time and I don’t think CL/PL sits on his work to make remixes of the same title on a daily basis…..😂
Great video! Many victims families say having a relative disappear is maybe even worse than their death. If they die, at least you can mourn them and then it allows you to move on and get some closure, but when they vanish, you cant mourn them, youre left to wonder forever, and its hard to move on cause you wont rest until you find them... I hope they can get thru this
I believe that very very very same sentiment. I also believe that when his mother passed away this caused a huge mental health shattering rift in his life and a subsequentially agonizing mid- life crisis which caused him to possibly start experimenting with drugs. I think someone at the bar most likely sold him some bad dope he odes and dies at the bar and was taken from the bar out the back door
Possible but it's also possible his lawyer has advised against a polygraph. They're considered unreliable to the point of being almost junk science these days. I don't know how they were viewed back when this happened.
Yeah, I've always thought his friend knows more than what he's saying. Even without the refusal to take a polygraph test. There's just something about him that makes me think he's lying.
Many people here are saying Brian's in that bar somewhere, and I agree. Can't rule out human error. For example, there was the case of Larry Ely Murillo-Moncada, who was a man who went missing, only to be found 10 years later in-between refrigeration units at the grocery he worked at. Customers and employees overlooked and dismissed the smell. There was also the missing Purdue student Wade Steffey who was found more than 2 months later, 50 yards from where he was last seen, in a computer utility room on campus that was checked repeatedly.
I have to disagree. I was a student at the time, and went to the ugly tuna regularly - and was close friends with the bartenders & security. The building has since been completely renovated & I believe it's an office building now. If he had been trapped somewhere (and there aren't many places he could have been stuck in) he would have been found.
I think he jumped off the outdoor balcony down to the street. Completely possible. After that, he either was part of a robbery gone wrong or saw something he shouldn't have. K9s did pick up his scent outside and lost it in a Wendy's parking lot up the street.
Very good! I not only know the last story but I lived in Silver Plume. I've talked to alot of the people concerned. You did a great job 👍 I really enjoyed the photos. Thanks
Yes that Brian Shaffer case took place in my hometown. The Ugly Tuna Saloona has since moved to a different location. And that case was talked about for years. His dad was a big force in the search for his son only for him to be taken out by a fallen tree because of the remnants of Hurricane Ike.
I’m from Canada and I think about it often. I think about this stranger at least twice a month. Without seeing a RU-vid about him or anything. It boggles my mind
I remember them saying there was wet cement outside the door that was under construction and he may have fallen in it? Or his shady ass friend killed him or knows what might have happened to him, I hope they checked inside the walls, or that place had some hidden rooms and someone took him there and did away with him somehow? what tf happened to him?
Brian shaffer case is probably the most baffling disappearance case I've ever heard of. How can a person just vanish into thin air at a public place. 🤔
Keith Reinhard's story does strike me as something that might have been intentional, though "sounds" to seem, not to be taken as fact. But the theory of him finding his novel losing it's mystery after the discovery of Young's body, along with the last written sentence to his book (which I must add, is marvelous and makes me want to read it), and him finding his last hopes in adding to the whole mystery by ridding himself, does sound plausible to a person at a loss. Though his family's argument should be marked valid as they should know him better than anyone else. Hmm, but geez, him telling everyone in town about his mission, however irrational, does make a good mystery, and I'm sure he knew that and 'maybe' took advantage of to become the character he built up. But there is always reason to doubt it, of course.
He couldve dressed as a female(once inside)then leave with a cluster of other people. Were the security cameras edited? Several things couldve been altered or staged, after the fact.
I really think Keith Reinhardt intentionally disappeared. I can understand his family saying he wouldn’t do that but it was mentioned he was having a midlife crisis. It was also mentioned by people that he identified with the characters in the book he was writing to the point that he often confused himself who he was. The last line of the book was his hint. I don’t believe he killed himself but I think writing the book then the discovery of the remains of Young and his dog pushed him into doing something to change his life. I don’t think Young was a victim of foul play. I think the authorities are right about suicide. He killed the dog so it wouldn’t be left alone then killed himself. There was something going on in his life that made him decide he had no reason to live.
I hate those degenerate losers who send messages etc pretending to be a missing person. What sick thrill do they get from tormenting the poor grieving families, is it a “prank” or something?
I think Bryan’s friend killed him or knows who did. Why wouldn’t he take a polygraph ?? Seems like he would do whatever to find his friend. He has to know something!!🤔🤔.
I respectfully disagree, at least as far as the polygraph. Any lawyer will tell you not to take one. There's a reason they're inadmissible in court. In any event, from what I've gathered, according to the police Clint Florence was "fully cooperative, then he wasn't". Translation: "he was fine until we started accusing him". I do think that he knows more than he's saying, but the timeline of that night makes it unlikely that he killed Brian. That's according to the police. I hope he's found and his poor brother is doing well.
Taking a polygraph was not going to help find his friend...and he was probably advised against it by his attorney. Cops lie and cheat at their jobs...I wouldn't take that test either.
Maybe he does know something like he was planning to disappear and start a new life.I don't thing he could have killed him. They were in a crowded bar with lots of people and the bar closed 45 minutes after he got there.Where would he dispose of a body?
Dude a polygraph test is pseudoscience there has been people who passed a polygraph test and was later on proven to have committed the crime that's why they can't be used in court. It's more of an interrogation method to try to get people to admit to doing something.
If Brian wasn't seen leaving the bar, is there an attic, vent or even the roof that he could've accessed being high enough, got stuck in something and suffocated... that the dogs couldn't pick up his scent?! and the cops not bothering to be more efficient in their search of the building?
Even if his good friend/friends were responsible for his death, and I'm pretty convinced they were, how in the world was he hidden/disposed of so completely that no trace of him has never been found? Mind boggling to say the least.
If UCLA had such strict entrance security. How did an older man wander inside unchecked? If he actually existed. I still think the one young man is in that building. Especially with construction going on at the time. It is just another bizarre mystery like Natalie Holloway .
The 1st case that I heard that's terrible I think his friend has something to do with it because why did he lawyer up so quick and Refuse to take the lie deter test. That is suspicious to me
Yes I believe he got stuck in the building somewhere wasn't able to get out and suffocated if he wasn't found nowhere else outside he is still in that building there's so many cases of this.
I've long thought that Brian wound up in the contractor's dumpster after being the victim of foul play. As for the disappearance of Michael, I think it's very possible that he fell down the garbage chute and was either dead or unconscious when the trash was hauled off. I mean, sure, weird things happen in Westwood, but it's not exactly a dangerous part of town like Exposition Park after sunset. . . Case No. 3, the novel being ruined by the unexpected discovery of the bookseller and his dog sounds like a good explanation to me. I'd compare the state of mind that drove the guy to go missing was probably related to the depression some people feel after favorite shows are canceled.
Does Brian have a family history of psychological issues? Something could have surfaced later in life, like a disassociative condition, that caused him to separate from 'reality' and start a new identity.
@@manda-panda Ive been told by people that knew the bar that there were 3 or 4 exits, not just the two often talked about in these videos. IMO he left through the side door and was hit by a drunk driver, put in the trunk and taken somewhere or buried. Its the only logical thing as sad as that sounds unless he stepped into another dimension
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In the case of Brian, I've seen other videos where people go missing and it ends up that they had fallen or ended up stuck in some place where they can't get out and end up dying in that space. But that doesn't really explain why he's not on any cameras exiting the building.
I get the feeling that Brian wandered in on something he shouldn’t have at the back of the club like a drug deal or he was clipped on a whim. Either way it was covered up.
The Bryan case to me is the most mind bending case. I'm absolutely perplexed as to how in the World does he just disappear out of no where in a crowded bar with security cameras all around outside in inside....seriously wtf
I’m convinced an ugly tuna employee (or a couple) know the fate of Brian. That’s the only explanation for how he/his body left that location without being seen on camera. The employees would know the camera blind spots, would have things they could’ve put his body in, and had after hours to do it. Brian is not alive. I’m convinced he hasn’t been alive since that night. The person who left that comment should be ashamed of themselves. If he was alive he wouldn’t let his family suffer like this.
I saw on another channel that there are many people & even some authorities who believe that Brian was taken out inside the bar and is buried inside of the kitchen of that bar somewhere.
I feel Michael is no longer here. Are there any places on campus a body (I'm sorry) could be hidden? A shed, garden area, an abandoned/little used floor/building on campus? A pond, wooded area near campus? Bring dogs in and I feel you may find something/one.
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The last case sounds a lot like the David Paulidis Missing 411 cases that happen when people go missing in the woods or in the mountains. But his happen mostly in a National forest.
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That last case is absolutely insane. I think it might actually be a coincidence that the two men died in a similar way, but wow it is pretty close to being supernatural the ways things played out. They both ran a business in the same building, both climbed the nearby mountain, and both (likely) died in the same way. They may have both found out something they weren't supposed to know and were murdered by a local, who knew how to travail the mountain quite well. The Shaffer case has been examined to death at this point, but it is still crazy to this day how things played out. That family is extremely unlucky. I have heard of Negrete before, and I do think he was abducted and killed. I think they will eventually find out who killed him.
I could have sworn the unfound podcast had an update about Brian I think there was this friend or investigator that found picture of him recently with long hair so it was like he was living another life which would be better than him being dead but she believes he's still alive
It's possible that person found Brian. It's also possible that the person with long hair with similar features to Brian is not Brian. That would take some evidence or proof.
Appreciate your efforts. I still wish someone would solve/ explore the case of Jared ____, a guy in Maine who got messed up with some kind of drug deal with a popular rock band whose one member had a house in the Maine woodlands; he was confused and incohesive the last time he was seen by a locale neighbor, then he was never found. That case still gnaws at me.
I imagine the police have already considered this, but since it’s never brought up in any recollections of the case, did anyone check the CCTV to see if someone carried a container that could hold Brian Shaffer’s body?
With Brian's case I find it odd his friend refused a polygraph. Your friend is missing under very strange circumstances & the police want to clear you as a suspect. If you're not involved & have nothing to hide, why not take it? The friend either knows something and/or is involved. What other reason would he have to refuse the polygraph?
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It’s absolutely abstruse & mystifying that people can just completely disappear into thin air... It’s baffling that there isn’t more record keeping for these disappearances so they can be intricately studied. If we could just educate everyone more of this phenomena so more professionals would be interested in scientific study, maybe we could get some closure for the loved ones of these thousands of peoples who’ve disappeared without a trace.
I'm not trying to be an asshole, but I feel like he was maybe not a good guy. The way he's pointing his gfs chin at the camera, the way he invades those women's space in the cctv footage, he doesn't have what I would describe as "kind" eyes... I don't know. My woman's intuition is telling me he was bad news. Not sure what that means, but if I'm right, he easily could have ended up under that bar.
@@poutinedream5066 I don't know him, but have saw multiple shows, podcasts about this.. he lost his mom, he was out and although young I mean it's still disrespectful to be talking to two females.. he's somewhere under that construction I'd say, but dogs haven't hit however if they did it correct they never will.. I hate it for the dad most, him gone, brother freak accident and wife passed.. we can catch a murderer from 40 yrs ago but can't find out what happened to him.. I smell bs
@@michelleprieur1 he was up on them, how tf he look evil in his eyes? Furthermore how do you get abusive from a picture? Shit don't want me going in on yall cry baby ass people... he didn't deserve to die unless he was hanging out at Epstien Island with most of our awesome law abiding f**k boys.. don't start something you can't finish and end up being the police and reporting me..
Yes exactly what I was thinking his body is still in the building and buried by the same people who worked on the site hence why he’s vanished. Them ladies were arguing and he seemed involved as a peace maker. Poor job by the police.
Brian had too have left THAT bar" some way " some how..... ... i really wish i could see that video of the bar , that night" they are missing something...
@@JenGCYYC YES, actually it was, i think it was just for employees and the band , yah know, stuf like that... but i think at that time, it wasnt accessible....
The bar that Brian disappeared from was remodeled a few years ago and is now OSU offices. I was convinced that they’d find his body in the walls or something when they gutted the place but they never found anything.
The brain case has 2 possible logical explanations, both unfortunately ending with murder. 1, someone killed him inside the club and buried him in the club more than likely with the help of accomplices. 2, someone killed him and took his body out threw a blind spot. I seriously doubt that brain left that club not even threw a blind spot. They should look threw that club up and down. Look for any disturb ground or walls. Hire a really good detective. To look at this Strange case with fresh eyes. Something must have been overlooked. Or shity police work. The answer has to be there in that club.
I think he was very good looking and pre-med. Maybe someone or ones girlfriends were flirting with him and some frat dudes decided to get even with him and took it too far. A construction site near by leaves too many opportunities to hide a body, if only temporarily.
Yea, because no one would have noticed someone ripping up flooring, digging a grave, filling it in, re-laying the flooring, and making it blend into the existing floor. They probably just wrapped him in saran-wrap and turned him into a macabre coat-rack. Or maybe that was statue of Brian is really him! I believe that Santa Claus came down and asked Brian to lead his sleigh...because...his nose? Idfk.
I don't think he ever left that building. I couldn't begin to imagine where in that building but I think his body is in there somewhere. I remember they found a man in a grocery store like pinned between two walls or something and he had been there for years
