3 Reasons Churches Should Stop Using Bethel & Hillsong Music | Part 1 with Justin Peters 

THE GOSPEL OF THE WORD OF ALMIGHTY GOD "is a great last age that He will save man so accept the new and last work done by the Lord Jesus Christ" (Examining whether you practice righteousness in all that you do, and whether God observes all your actions, are principles for the conduct of those who believe in God. You will be called righteous because you please God, and because you accept His care and protection. "Righteousness" does not mean giving alms, it does not mean loving your neighbor as yourself, and it does not mean not fighting, fighting, stealing, or Righteousness means that you accept God's order as your duty and follow His arrangement as a heavenly passion, regardless of time or place, just like everything that the Lord Jesus did. This is really righteousness that God said. No matter how good your works are, no matter how much you show that you glorify God's name, do not hurt or curse others, and do not rob or steal from them, you still cannot be called righteous, because the these can be claimed by any normal person. Now the key is that you don't know God.) Almighty God said Investigating if you PRACTICE RIGHTEOUSNESS in EVERYTHING you DO, and if GOD OBSERVES all your ACTIONS, are PRINCIPLES in the BEHAVIOR of those who BELIEVE in God. YOU WILL BE CALLED RIGHTEOUS because you PLEASED GOD, and BECAUSE you ACCEPT His CARE and PROTECTION. ☀️ In the sight of God, ALL those who RECEIVE His CARE, PROTECTION, and PERFECTION and those who ACHIEVE Him, are RIGHTEOUS and LOOKED UPON by GOD. 🙏 The more you ACCEPT GOD'S WORDS here and now, the more YOU ARE ABLE TO RECEIVE and UNDERSTAND His WILL, and therefore the more YOU CAN LIVE GOD'S WORDS and FOLLOW HIS STANDARDS. This is the assignment of GOD to you, and what you should achieve. If you use concepts to measure and frame God, as if God is like an unchanging statue made of clay, and if you limit God within the Bible, and you fit Him into the limited scope of doing, it proves that you have condemned God. Because, in their HEARTS, the OLD TESTAMENT TIME JEWS molded GOD into the FORM of an idol--idol, as if GOD could only be CALLED MESSIAH, and ONLY HE WAS CALLED MESSIAH, and because GOD WAS SERVED and they WORSHIPED Him like a (lifeless) statue made of clay, they CRUCIFIED JESUS at that TIME, they SENTENCED Him to DEATH---and PUNISHED the INNOCENT--JESUS to DEATH. 😪 God committed no crime, but man did not ignore God and condemned Him to death without hesitation. Thus, Jesus was crucified. 😪 People always believe that God does not change, and describe Him according to the Bible, as if people can already see God's management, as if all God's actions are in the hands of people. People are really ridiculous, they have the ultimate arrogance, and they all have a natural ability to speak arrogantly. 😪 NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU KNOW ABOUT GOD, I STILL SAY YOU DON'T KNOW GOD, and THERE IS NO ONE MORE AGAINST GOD, and you CONDEMN GOD, because you are TOTALLY UNABLE TO FOLLOW GOD'S WORK, because you are TOTALLY THERE IS NO ABILITY TO FOLLOW GOD'S WORK and WALK in the PATH that GOD will MAKE you PERFECT. 🙏 WHY IS GOD NEVER PLEASED WITH HUMAN ACTIONS? ☀️ Because man does not know God, because he has too many understandings, and because, instead of fulfilling reality, all his knowledge of God comes from the same thread, and is stiff and un-- shaky So, in HIS COMING to the world TODAY, GOD was ONCE CRUCIFIED BY MAN. 😪 CRUEL, VIOLENT HUMANITY! The CONSPIRACY and INTRIGUE, the slandering each other, the vying for REPUTATION and WEALTH, the DESTROYING each other----when will it END? 😪 GOD SPOKE a hundred--thousand WORDS, but not a single one was understood. They ACT for the WELFARE of their FAMILIES, and SONS and DAUGHTERS, for their PROFESSIONS, hopes, STATUS, LUXURY, and WEALTH, for their CLOTHES, for FOOD and FLESH- ---whose ACTIONS are REALLY for GOD'S SAKE? 😪 Even among those who act for God, very few know God. HOW MANY DO NOT ACT TO PRESERVE THEIR OWN WELFARE? How many DO NOT--OPPRESS and DISCRIMINATE OTHERS for the sake of maintaining their own status? So, God was forced to be condemned to death on countless bases, countless cruel judges judged Him and crucified Him once more. HOW MANY CAN BE CALLED RIGHTEOUS because they really ACT for GOD'S SAKE? ☀️ IN THE FRONT OF GOD, IS IT THAT EASY TO BE PERFECT, be a HOLY, or BE A RIGHTEOUS person? A TRUTH that "there is no righteous man on earth, THE RIGHTEOUS ARE NOT HERE ON EARTH." ☀️ If you come before God, consider your dress, your every word and action, all your thoughts and ideas, even the dreams you dream every day---all these are for for your own sake. Isn't this the real situation? "righteousness" DOES NOT MEAN ALMS-GIVING, it DOES NOT MEAN LOVING YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF, and it DOES NOT MEAN NOT FIGHTING, BEGGING, STEALING, OR BEING. ☀️ RIGHTEOUSNESS MEANS that you ACCEPT GOD'S COMMANDMENT as your DUTY and FOLLOW HIS ORDER as a FALL OF HEAVENLY INTENTION, REGARDLESS OF TIME or PLACE, JUST LIKE EVERYTHING THE LORD JESUS DID. This is the very righteousness that God spoke of. ☀️ That Lot can be called a righteous man because he saved the two angels sent by God regardless of what he gained or lost; what he did at that time can be called righteous, but he cannot be called a righteous man. It was only because Lot saw God that he gave his two daughters in exchange for the angels. But not all of his behavior in the past represented righteousness, so I say "there is none righteous on the face of the earth." Even among those in the stream of improvement, no one can be called righteous. NO MATTER HOW GOOD YOUR WORKS ARE, NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU PRETEND TO GLORIFY GOD'S NAME, DO NOT HURT OR CURSE OTHERS, and DO NOT STEAL or SLAY from them, YOU STILL CANNOT BE CALLED RIGHTEOUS, BECAUSE THEY CAN BE OWNED BY ANY NORMAL PERSON. Now the key is that you don't know God. 🙏 It can only be said that now you have a small normal personality, but you are devoid of the righteousness that God spoke, so nothing you do is proof of your knowledge of God. From "The Wicked Will Be Punished" Fulfillment of "When I looked up, someone handed me a book wrapped in a scroll. I opened it and I read on both sides the prayers, sorrows, and curses." (Ezekiel 2:9-10). ... He added, "These are the true WORDS of GOD". (Rev. 19:9).. ... "His garment was stained with blood. He was called the "Word of God" (Rev. 19:13). The kingdom He brought down and set up in the highest in the sky so that it can occupy His creation in the universe and engrave on it the entirety of His Holy name "THE CHURCH OF ALMIGHTY GOD" 💐 fulfillment of (Mat. 16:18) "And I say as for you, you are Peter, on top of this rock I will build my Church, that even the power of death will not prevail over it.". ... and "The Letter to the Church in Philadelphia" (Rev. 3:7-13). ... And fulfillment of "The New Jerusalem" 💫 (Rev. 21:10) "The Spirit enveloped me, and the angel led me to the top of a very high mountain. He showed Me Jerusalem, the Holy City, which coming down from heaven from God." (1 Peter 4:17) "For the time has come in the house of God for the beginning of judgment in the house of God." 📩 Calling and leading the sheep of God to His glorious Throne "THE CHURCH OF ALMIGHTY GOD"💐 to submit again to His authority so that He will continue to teach, guide and protect even in plague, famine and wild animals will not be moved by it and completely win this final battle with the big red dragon! "They say with a loud voice, "Salvation comes from the Lamb, and from our God who sits on the Throne!" (Rev. 7:10). ... and it will be fulfilled that will be established above the sky/RU-vid in (Isaiah 2: 2 / 9:6) "On the Last Day, the mountain on which Jehovah's temple stands will stand out above all the mountains. All nations will flock there. " . . . "For a baby boy is born to us. The rule will be given to him; and he shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Almighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace." ✉️ 📨

This is exactly how I feel our own personal relationship with God is the Answer to discerning between false prophecy and truth

If you say, "well I'm gonna listen to them regardless " then aren't you promoting them and their agenda to continue to preach heresies?

Or maybe he's not a legalistic, religious fool that thinks there's a problem with their worship music?

It is fine to have convictions. Did you even have an open mind about what was shared in this video? It is the history found with these ministries that lead people astray, unsound. The music sounds great but some choose not to support the ministry anymore after what is learned. Anywho.

+ADD Daniel I agree . . . Spiritual WORSHIP is the target of their attacks on Bethgl and Hillsong - they OPPOSE praise TO God - they restrict it to songs ABOUT God - theology, not intimacy. "Being in the presence of Christ and worshipping Him who is the only reason you are there is what we should be longing for."

The Psalms (Tehillim) are wonderful

Jesus is God and we are not BUT as Dean points out read John 14:12 and the great commission in Mark. You either believe the words of Jesus or you don't, no cherry picking like some of the popular denominations do.

The only reason why people talk like this is because they are Kemetic. My name is Victor Nila Junior, and I'm also a Kemeticist. Kemeticism is the revival of ancient Egyptian religion. Osiris, Isis, and Horus are my holy triptych (trinity). You don't have to agree with Kemeticists, and you don't need to judge us by how we worship. Now, I know there is evil out there, for I have seen it with my eye, and have also heard it. Osiris is not an evil god. Isis is not a mysterious, ghastly goddess. Horus is not the god of the Illuminati. These gods are beautiful, nurturing, and almost infantile. I use to be a Christian, but no more. I look in that bible, and there is so much killing in there! They even killed infants! How do you live with that? Forthright, you portray yourselves to be the most godliest people on the planet. Either you can feel the hurt you're causing the Earth, or you don't care. Why did pagans have to die? Can you tell me that? All we wanted was to worship our deities, and we get killed?

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Too bad you attend a very religious church.

God will judge them not us,Their songs encouraging to the weak

He’s a heretic and masquerades as an angel of light.

What if some of what was said was untrue? My name is Victor Nila Junior, and I am a Kemeticist. Kemeticism is the revival of ancient Egyptian religion. I understand that there will always be good and evil, but some of the things that were said, I don't agree with. Osiris, my dear sweet lord, is not an evil god. He is the god of life, resurrection, and mostly all that is righteous. By the way, he is the original father. Horus is his son, and he is also the original son of God.

@@NBP123 I'm praying that the One, True God YHWH will touch your heart, show you the truth, and save you! There is only One God. He is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, 3 Persons. We can only come to the Father through the Son! I hope you repent today and put your faith in Jesus Christ!

Than you for this message good my God bless 🙌 you for spreading the truth 🙏 ❤️

Wow idk what 2 think after hearing all of these comments !

What do you mean?

Saved Stacey Amen!

+Saved Stacey IF you accept the heresy of these two cultists - you OUGHT NOT have an Icon of ask the BLIND man - for they claim GOD is NOT in that business any more - totally OPPOSITE to what the BIBLE teaches. Cessationism is the great MODERN day heresy and these two are right up there with their false teachings putting that occult teaching into the church. "LORD I pray you open their eyes and ears. " Its NOT the eyes of Bethel or Hillsong that need opening - its those that teach this cessationist false gospel. "EPENT, turn from your wicked ways! " AMEN Peters and his ilk NEED to repent!! "There's NOTHING normal about JESUS! HE IS CHRIST! " OR those that follow him Mark 16

I pray for you!

Which biblical truth? The part he cherry picks from the word or the part he throws away?

@@tracy8508 proof? Easy to make accusations with no proof…

@@kellyeckert1 the people that do these videos are cessationists, hence the lack of understanding for spirit filled churches.

@@tracy8508 I spent the better part of the past 20 years in “spirit filled” churches… you are blind and I pray God opens your eyes

@@tracy8508 and you still have given no Biblical proof to your accusations

I think it’s time for a new church

That’s a difficult prayer to hear, I left my church over prayers I heard that grieved me, you can’t challenge it without coming off prideful, and the pastor will have an explanation like mine did. Still- it’s hard to get past that

What ? Forgive God for what ?

That’s a new church calling you.

@Sandra Tagaban you're bothered by it because the Holy Spirit is telling you to get away from that teaching/church. That kind of thought/prayer is an expression of what is in the person's heart. From those kinds of words, my perception is that person has no real belief in the truth of God's holiness & sovereignty as the creator of everything and essentially owns everything. God does not owe man/created beings anything!!! In fact, He has done more than what we deserve already! God Bless and keep praying!

Do what? I don’t watch his ridiculous gossip videos so I’m asking.

Oh I’m guessing you mean play their music? There is nothing wrong with their music. It’s great worship music. That lie comes from his false doctrinal, religious spirit that doesn’t understand the things of the spirit. Get away from his “teaching!”

@@tracy8508 Maybe some people need to come out of the Charismatic movement for awhile and just be in the basics of scripture in this season. I used to be in NAR and am exiting as of 6 months ago. I have a relative who is a big name prophet. I went to Brownsville. I have a ton of friends in the movement who are still my friends. Some people just need something different, something more solid for now. There are a lot of good people who go to these churches, but there are also A LOT of scammers who do this for personal gain. I think it's good to be humble and just let everyone be on their journey. One big thing that helped me was that a lot of these NAR and word of faith people use the scriptures out of context. They use a few scriptures in their teaching and then just tell stories or have "ministry" time. A good teacher teaches everything in context of the rest of the Bible. They teach the Bible, not try to be funny or cool or build a huge following. They want to shepherd the flock in truth.

@@Sara-hy1ru Come out of the Charismatic movement for a while? How bout forever!

@@brianpayne8931 then you are not following scripture.

+Kim Wolf That is straight from the lips of JESUS!! "You will do greater works than these..." would be great for your next Inigo Montoya series. "

@@paulrobinson9318 I am not sure what you mean. Yeshua did say "you will do greater works than these".

+@@jojomasipa379 He did - the top of this thread was I thought a BIT blasphemous: ""You will do greater works than these..." would be great for your next Inigo Montoya series." I pointed out that JESUS said that . . . "I am not sure what you mean. Yeshua did say "you will do greater works than these"." PS in ENGLISH, its JESUS.

@@paulrobinson9318 I mean exactly what I said. I cannot understand many people that do not believe in the working of the Holy Spirit and if not for that why would Yeshua have said that. I am a Messianic Jew and I always refer to Jesus as Yeshua and I cannot understand that you get offended by that. It is the same person that I call by another name. I have never denied that His name is Jesus in English. It is just foreign to me to use the English name coming from a Jewish background. Not an Orthodox Jewish background obviously. All my studies have always referred to Yeshua also, so if you dont like it, you really dont have to read my posts. But the just of it was that I agree with the fact that He said those words which makes me believe that we should be able to do greater works than Him, when He was here, because the Holy Spirit was sent as a Comforter and that the gifts of the Spirit is alive and well TODAY. It was not only for the Biblical era. I hope that make sense to you.

+@@jojomasipa379 MY friend, your post makes perfect sense - and you can use the term 'Yeshua' with my profound blessings, for He is to you indeed Yeshua. BUT you are the FIRST person ever that has actually had am HONEST claim to do so among the responses I have received. I find it simply 'putting on airs' and wholly disingenuous when most use it. You are also rare among respondents for your understanding that the HOLY SPIRIT is for today just as He was in Jesus day - and we are to do the same works that JESUS did - BECAUSE we have the same Holy Spirit. " @Paul Robinson I mean exactly what I said. I cannot understand many people that do not believe in the working of the Holy Spirit and if not for that why would Yeshua have said that." Point well taken. "I am a Messianic Jew and I always refer to Jesus as Yeshua and I cannot understand that you get offended by that." I get offended at Gentiles pretending to be Jews. "It is the same person that I call by another name. " And you have m y blessings to so so. NOT that you need that, but you have it. " I have never denied that His name is Jesus in English. It is just foreign to me to use the English name coming from a Jewish background." And I bless your nation, your culture and your background. "Not an Orthodox Jewish background obviously. All my studies have always referred to Yeshua also, so if you dont like it, you really dont have to read my posts." I enjoyed reading this one. " But the just of it was that I agree with the fact that He said those words which makes me believe that we should be able to do greater works than Him, when He was here, because the Holy Spirit was sent as a Comforter and that the gifts of the Spirit is alive and well TODAY. It was not only for the Biblical era. I hope that make sense to you." Perfect sense and I agree with every 'jot and tittle' of your post. MY blessings from the Father on you.

That is the stupidest thing Ive ever heard

@@allensantee1591 only because you dont know your bible,,,it says in bible a true church must have elders and deacons,, why ????? its natural,,that's why these independent churches do what thy want to

@@eisbeinGermany As a Christian your woefully ignorant of the Bible you claim to know.At some point in your life hopefully you will figure it out

@@allensantee1591 then there millions of other ignorant people, just on this video if you go look you will see how many people speak out against them,,, here on youtube so many videos of people saying same as me against them being sung in churches, and its true about what I say about that those so called pastors do there own thing,, take all the money that comes in, that's why thy so rich,,, and the fools who support them by sending them money

Look at John Todd Collins talk about music and spells. He was a high druid who left the illuminati and gave interviews on what they were doing, including sending millions to "Christian" artists to derail music in churches. There is nothing dumb about being concerned by obviously terrible behavior from rich and devious people.

@Darren ofcourse!

@@rangoon03 I do too. There are many songs of theirs that I totally see as worship songs, but it may not be in everybody's taste, but I believe in a God that has Grace for all of us. The song - "There is another in the Fire" is beautiful, but the secessionists will tell you that that is only relevant to the 3 men that were in the fire. Nothing in the Bible relates to us today, it is only information that tells us what God can do, but we cannot apply that to our lives. We cannot believe that if I am standing in a situation, that He is standing with me. That is what his teaching is all about.

@@jojomasipa379 yes beautiful song, but it’s not a song I would consider to use as worship to my Lord; too many words like I and me and not enough You

@@jojomasipa379 yes you can believe that if you are in a situation God is standing with you, lots of bible verses say he is close to us and will never leave us etc but you can’t really read yourself into the narrative as that situation Daniel was in was unique, he was willing to die rather than bow down to an idol is that the same situation you are in? And if we were we may indeed die as some of our brothers and sister are martyred for their faith 😢blessings to you

@@mariabean1786 Thank you for your response. I agree with you on many of these comments, but I believe that "there is Another in the fire" is just a reference to not being alone. Not necessarily in a fire, but in a difficult situation. In my opinion, many worship songs are someone's testimony and I love that. We all experience Our God differently because our situations are unique, but I SO wish we can be One Body - these different doctrines and everybody calling everybody out as false has become too much for me. The Gospel is not that difficult and I don't see why we cannot appreciate other people's views. It may be different from mine, but still valid due to their situation. Please look up on RU-vid "The Man on the middle cross said I could come". That is how I feel.

This is a very powerful testimony, thank you for sharing....may God continue being your friend

I thank God for your Deliverance and salvation,may the almighty God protect you through in Jesus Christ name amen.

He’s not a Christian now

He was never a Christian 😑

@@LisaCaseycasbel777 only God can judge his heart. He claimed to be Christian and now he claims to not be a Christian.

@@ashdivakaran9664That is true, but how could one ever turn away from Jesus? If you truly experienced Jesus wholeheartedly there's no way you could walk away. I don't believe he was truly converted to begin with, but that's just my opinion 😊

@@LisaCaseycasbel777 plenty of people walk away from the faith, usually because they prefer to be lord of their own lives, some because they haven’t received sound teaching and can’t answer the hard questions. I think his problem was he tried to be this rockstar Christian instead of a disciple.

That is Steven Furtick and he is also a dangerous prosperity gospel, cheap grace 'preacher.' His is a worldly, feel-good message that is leading many astray.

Do you watch it? I would say make sure to judge for yourself and please don't just take the word of these modern day religious pharisees that don't understand nor believe in the things of the spirit beyond salvation. God bless.

Thank you Lisa! I absolutely agree! After this last episode with Mary Magdeline… and the demons stuff I removed the app from my phone. I have removed all Facebook links. I won’t have anymore to do with it.

Good afternoon. I too was exposed to ministries like Bethel and Hillsong at an early age. Could I encourage you to read Leviticus 10:1-3, 2 Samuel 6:6-7, Acts 5:1-11 , Acts 12:21-23, John 8:48-49. There is not enough room here to address the topics of dishonoring God, false doctrine and false worship, but that is what Justin and Joel are addressing here. I would also encourage you to study this subject more thoroughly. I have placed the links to other teachings Justin has on false doctrines and false teachings, below. It is also good to remember that men exposed to the unveiled Glory of God and Christ, were struck with fear, and fell down like dead men before them (Exo. 3:6, Isa 6:1-5, Eze 1:28, 3:23, 43:3, 44:4, Dan. 8:17-18, 10:8, 9, 15, 17-19, Luk 9:29-34, Rev 1:17). The core issue is the Holiness of God and the sinful nature of men. The Holiness of God is a vast subject and necessary knowledge to begin to understand the wrath of God, and God's other attributes. The Bible tells us that, “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding.” (Proverbs 9:10, NASB). In other words we can't even begin to be wise in any way, until we first fear God and reverence Him. I hope this helps. God bless you! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qS0Mpa5BRzE.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EoU1XHrOwgg.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nKXn9-CxQwg.html

Hopefully as you grow older, your biblical knowledge as well as discernment will grow as well. Churches like Bethel, Hillsong, and Elevation are full of false teachers who will not educate you biblically, but more in the name of prosperity and a heavenly Earth. They’ll lead you astray. They use the music to do it. Watch out my friend! Praying yiur eyes are always open and focused on the Lord.

you are are child and are sadly mistaken

Amen!! You are exactly right. Keep worshipping in Spirit and Truth. We don't need RU-vid pastors to tell us how to worship we have the Holy Spirit.

Thank you brother. Don't mind this hypocritics.

Love this

Yeah don't forget to slander them all!

@@tracy8508 Lol

Well actually Elevation is a Christ centred church/worship band so… no.

@@Thomohawk21 the pastor Steven Furtick is very much a false teacher so Elevation is not a Christ centered church.

@@jakekaufman2965 How? He preaches the Lordship of Jesus. The importance of salvation and the Trinity. He’s just part of the “charismatic” movement and therefore false, right?

We are told to make melody with our hearts and voice. "Sing" HIS praises.

@@grcleve7053 you can “sing” with an instrument. The voice is an instrument. Also it’s mentioned a bunch of times in Psalms that instruments are used. David himself used a harp. Like…. come on!

@@grcleve7053 God bless you, I heard a good explanation ... in the tabernacle there were instruments and only holy things were allowed with that in OT so , it isn’t the instrument but the person ... also there are a few times instruments in NT are showed yet none of those instances are they addressed as sin at all..

@@ComewithSall They are not sinful. I spent the majority of my "church" attending years singing along with instruments. I even played a couple of instruments during worship services. But the thing that stuck out to me was the instruments drowned out the voices. After attending a couple of congregations which sang a capella, there was no doubt in my mind which sounded more meaningful and beautiful. Shalom

I sit down and won’t sing any songs like that in church.

Maybe you should find a nice religious, spiritually dead church where you can feel more comfortable.

@@tracy8508 nice saccharine - hahaha LOL.

​@@aussiedadreviews Lately, I have felt the same, uncomfortable with songs sung in church by B & H and cannot worship in spirit and truth.

This is why.God prescribed Psalms to be sung in worship. What's more doctrinal and Christ centered than that?

Yup. It really is that simple. I don't know how my friends don't get it. There are some battles too big for this Baptist....

Or a love song to Jesus

My church set music to Psalm verses and years later I still find myself singing them. They’re the best option imo.

@ADD Daniel I agree! Songs should supplement/compliment the sermon which amplifies the worship to God where it all belongs!

wow, that's one to strike from my list.

If you look at the history behind many of the great hymns we don't from a hymnal they were written by Unitarians, especially those written in the 1800s.

Doesn't mean this podcast isn't spot on.

True, but no one is looking up Horatio Spafford's sermons on YT, nor is his errant ministry getting paid/supported for the downloads or licensing of his music.

Horatio was a Presbyterian Elder.

You ALWAYS support artists you sing, by LAW. If you sing Gaither songs, you pay those artists too. It's not the artist making you pay, it's a legality. I know lots of musicians who would personally not choose to make people pay, but because t hey copyright it so others don't steal it, it becomes a legal issue. This isn't a valid argument for not singing ANY song ..other than public domain.

@@chriscoon801 - you are so correct, until the last line! There are mechanical royalties that should be paid, usually through a CCLI subscription. So every song we [report] sing results in $$ to the authors. Strangely, Chris, you conclude that any such financial transactions are not a valid reason to choose songs, but that is ludicrous. What if Planned Parenthood started writing catchy, somewhat palatable (and theologically sound) songs and published them in the CCLI database? Come on.

@@Charles.Wright I have listened to Justin's video where he asks the same question. This is, however,a moot point as we all know Planned Parenthood would NOT do that. And while I understand the meaning behind the question, it's not relevant. Likewise, Justin in the same video says Hymns are fine even though they were originally bar songs, based on the fact that we don't think of the people that wrote them at this point since they were written so long ago. Give that logic, all we need to do is wait a hundred years or so and the Bethel songs will be fine.

@@chriscoon801 - 1. For unrelated purposes, I recently tried to find traditional protestant hymns that began as pub songs and came up short (found just one, IIRC). Maybe my search skills are lacking ... could you please list a few? 2. Sure, the hypothetical will never happen. It was meant to illustrate the point. If I am opposed to some person or group, why would I want to send them money? 3. Yes, I do believe that there is a difference between supporting and endorsing an active "ministry" that is flooding the airwaves and the praise teams, and performing songs whose authors have long since died.

@@Charles.Wright 1: I've heard this many times and when I looked it up myself,albeit not extensively, I couldn't see that was in fact the case. So for this, I want to say I'm sorry. I was wrong and will no longer use that argument because it appears to be untrue. Again, I'm sorry. 2: I understand the point you were making and of course if you disagree with something you should not support it, however, I personally DON'T disagree. And the money seems to just be a side point if it's about agreeing with the theology. 3: Agree to disagree on this one. 4: There's another disagreement on here about the same issues that is being done with personal attacks. Thank you for having a civil discussion.

It's not a house divided against itself. It's children of God and children of the devil. . If your not born again Are you going to heaven because of your not born again you will go to Hell. ​ Ezekiel 3:18 [18] When I say to the wicked, ‘You shall surely die,’ and you give him no warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life, that same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood I will require at your hand. ‭Proverbs 9:10 NKJV‬ [10] “The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. John 14:6-9. Jesus is the only way ‭‭[6] Jesus said to him, “ I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes into the father except through me ‭Romans 13:11-14 NKJV‬ [11] And do this, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep; for now our salvation is nearer than when we first believed. [12] The night is far spent, the day is at hand. Therefore let us cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armor of light. [13] Let us walk properly, as in the day, not in revelry and drunkenness, not in lewdness and lust, not in strife and envy. [14] But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to fulfill its lusts. 2nd Timothy 4:3 people with itching ears ‭‭[3] For a time is coming when people will no longer listen to sound and wholesome teaching. They will follow their own desires and will look for teachers who will tell them whatever their itching ears want to hear. 1st Corinthians 6:9-11 ⚠️ for law breakers ‭‭‭‭[9] Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality, 1st John 2:6. Being born again [6] Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did ‭‭1st John 2:9 False conversion [9] Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates a brother or sister is still in the darkness. Galatians 2:16. Law is a mirror ‭‭[16] knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified. Colossians 2:8-10. Jesus God in flesh ‭‭[8] Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ. [9] For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily; [10] and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power. ‭‭Colossians 1:15-18 NKJV‬‬ [15] He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. [16] For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. [17] And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. [18] And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence. This country was based on Gods laws. God wrote them on our hearts people who have never heard of the bible know its wrong to lie cheat steal committ adultery. The Ten commandments are the moral law you and I broke the law. Anyone who breaks the law is required death and death by definition is eternal separation from God in Hell. But God made a way so you don't have to go to Hell He became flesh"Jesus" 100% God 100 % Man created a body in a virgin was born lived a life upholding all of his laws living a perfect life than he was beat tortured disfigured and hung on a cross taking the pain and mutilation we deserve for breaking his laws. So that if today you belive that he lived died rose again and took your punishment. He paid your fine. There has to be punishment for breaking God's laws he isn't going to sweep it under the rug and just forget about it he physically took your punishment took your place so you could take his place like if you lived a perfect life without breaking His Laws. True repentance isn't just being sorry for breaking his laws its turning from and living your best to not lie cheat steal committ adultery or kill/murderer Jesus said if you look at someone to lust after them your guilty of committing adultery in your heart. And if you hate someone your guilty of murder. That's why the Bible says we need to die to our flesh when we want to lust or lie or to hate someone for no real reason. Even if you have a good reason your supposed to love your enemies. And you never can if you don't love God first because of what he did to save you from HELL.

Yes so good to constantly slander other churches and teachers.

@@tracy8508 it's not slander, Tracy...open your Bible and read it

@@JaneDoe-rg9wy oh I know my bible, no issue there. These people gossip and slander when ironically they don't even know what they are talking about and the more time goes on the more obvious it is they are doing it for youtube popularity, period. And you people don't question that? If Justin is so biblically correct then why is he a cessationist? He doesn't even know what he's talking about. You are listening to someone with a very flawed doctrine.

@@tracy8508 yes, that I am. I made the mistake of listening to you...a flawed doctrine.

@@JaneDoe-rg9wy if you are correct then answer my question. How is being a cessationist scriptural?

This must be a joke.

Stu B, you’re very welcome.

@@RightResponseMinistries Have the guts to respond to people who disagree with your understanding. You are clearly cissesionist focused only on bringing division in the body of Christ.

Isn’t it ironic Jojo? They are the ones completely WRONG theologically yet spend all their time & energy trying to bring down those they don’t agree with. God help them, especially bcz they’re probably guilty of blasphemy. And no when you want to discuss something BIBLICALLY with them they run the other way.

Those songs are both beautiful and amazing worship songs. YOU ARE FREE IN CHRIST to worship Him in Spirit and Truth.

What HE says INCLUDES Mark 16. Do you show any of the EVIDENCE Jesus stated there would follow all who believe?

@@paulrobinson9318 if you believe then you received the holy spirit, because Jesus washes clean what was dirty, but why would you make inpure again what Jesus is trying to make pure? We have to stop living for this world. Not many will be saved and that is one reason why I left Christianity, because I couldn't believe that. Then Jesus spoke to me and I repented, I still struggle, but with Jesus it is easier. God has revealed so much to me in this short time that I truly gave my heart to our God in Heaven through Jesus. We should follow the 10 commandments and we should read the bible and pray everyday to get closer to God and be lead fully by the spirit. Jesus washes clean over a period of time. He takes out that doesn't feed the holy spirit. I think a mis representation of God is that if you worship Him that He will give you all this stuff. But rather it should be I worship God because He saved me, He gave me a chance and I want to give thanks to Him and glorify Him. No one is on the same journey and I know for a fact now that God will show what you are seeking, because no one has the same questions or experiences in life. Acts 15 is also important, because we should not make it hard for people to become a follower of Jesus. We have to tell the truth however. It's not always easy and sometimes it will be harder than it was before, but that is where it says [But the one who endures to the end will be saved. Matthew 24:13 NLT] May God bless you and keep you save and may you always know the gift of Jesus. 😄 P.s I meant to say too that we should deny our fleshly desires and follow Jesus completely.

+@@celinejvr7 YOU seem to have giooid heart and a VERY confused head. " @Paul Robinson if you believe then you received the holy spirit," When we believe we recieve the DEPOSIT of the HOLY SPIRIT - the DOWNPAYMENT as the BIBLE says - the FULLNESS of the HOLY SPIRIT is the BAPTISM of the HOLY SPIRIT as in ACTS 2 - which is demonstrated by speaking in TONGUES as JESUS stated in Mark 16 - IF you BELIEVE you WILL speak in TONGUES and do MIRACLES. " because Jesus washes clean what was dirty, but why would you make inpure again what Jesus is trying to make pure? " I didn't know I was or did. Where do you see that? "We have to stop living for this world." WE do NOT life FOR thgis world we live IN IT - and as the Hebrews were instructed when in Captivity - marry, have kids, start businesses and PROPSER in the land away from home - so we on EARTH are to do the same - we are to live an EARTHLY life with a HEAVENLY goal - we are to marry, have a family, be wealthy, and spread the gospel. Can you NOT read your BI BLE? "Not many will be saved and that is one reason why I left Christianity, because I couldn't believe that. " Then you are SELECTIVELY reading the BIBLE. YOU cannot PROVE that from SCRIPTURE when taken in CONTEXT - that is a mark of demonic deception. IF you love GOD, you are RERQUIRED to assemble with OTHER believers - you are NOT commanded to agree with them. "Then Jesus spoke to me and I repented, I still struggle, but with Jesus it is easier. God has revealed so much to me in this short time that I truly gave my heart to our God in Heaven through Jesus." HOW can you repent and give your heart to Jesus and NOT b e a CHRISTIAN and believe HIS word? IF you think you are living for JESUS and IGNORING SCRIPTURE and FELLOWSHIP with those likeminded - you are LIVING in DECEPTION. "We should follow the 10 commandments" NO sir - the ten commandments DIED on CALVARY. ACTS 15 is the list of commandments for the NT JESUS-followers. Jesus taught YOU can be a BLATANT sinner and STILL keep the 10 commandments. And the SABBATH was RESTRICTED to HEBREWS - gentiles were NOT allowed to participate in that. WE STILL are NOT . "and we should read the bible and pray everyday to get closer to God and be lead fully by the spirit. " Again you IGNORE so much SCRIPTURE - NO place does it say to read the BIBLE, which did NOT exist in the early CHURCH - BUT they WERE commanded to assemble together - which YOU refuse. "Jesus washes clean over a period of time. He takes out that doesn't feed the holy spirit." HE does that by INTERACTION with believer and sound Bible teaching under the TEACHING of the HOLY SPIRIT - God set up THREE levels of CARE for the beliver in EPH 4 - the Pastor, the prophet and the apostle - UNLESS you have all THREE available to you - you are bound to backslide - for you are DEFYING GOD's order for the believer. "I think a mis representation of God is that if you worship Him that He will give you all this stuff." Hardly a misrepresentation - that is the PROMISE of GOD. DO you NOT read the BIBLE? "But rather it should be I worship God because He saved me, He gave me a chance and I want to give thanks to Him and glorify Him. " That's the BEGINNING - from THERE we go on to MATURITY - useful SERVICE to tell OTHERS - and that take LOTS of MONEY - MONEY comes from PROSPERITY - and PROSPERITY is the natural BLESSING of a LIFE lived in alignment with SCRIPTURE. "No one is on the same journey and I know for a fact now that God will show what you are seeking, because no one has the same questions or experiences in life. " God HAS shown me - I have travelled across the world to MINISTER - BECAUSE GOD propsered me - I founded a CHURCH based ON the MOVE of the HOLY SPIRIT - and the MIRACLES God did in every one of our 6 services a week - I needed NO salary for GOD had PROSPERED me. I taught BIBLE college - I had NO need of salary for GOD had prospered me. I live in a fully paid for house - that I did NOT have the MONEY to buy - because GOD prospered me. IF a man's ways PLEASE God and HE lives according to HIS WORD, that soul will prospaer spiritually and PHYSICALLY. "Acts 15 is also important, because we should not make it hard for people to become a follower of Jesus. We have to tell the truth however." And the TRUTH you assume is NOT being told is what? The ten commandments are NOT possible for the gentile. "t's not always easy and sometimes it will be harder than it was before, but that is where it says [But the one who endures to the end will be saved. I Matthew 24:13 NLT]" May God bless you and keep you save and may you always know the gift of Jesus. 😄 "P.s I meant to say too that we should deny our fleshly desires and follow Jesus completely. " Where do you find that in SCRTIPTURE? WE are commanded to marry - you CANNOT hold a church office without being married - MARRIAGE is a FLESHLY desire - you totally MISUSE that passage - in ways GOD never intended. BE careful about MISUSING SCRIPTURE - your MISUISE of SCRIPTURE comes from being POORLY taught and OUT of ORDER with GODS commands for CHRISTIANS to be part of a LOCAL church and UNDER the care of a GODLY pastor. I hope you find a church that teaches the WHOLE gospel, and get filled with the HOLY SPIRIT.

@@paulrobinson9318 I appreciate your whole comment and that you took the time to correct me where I am wrong (in your eyes) I am still learning and I am definitely not good with words. I do read my bible however. By fleshly desires it is meant as that what can lead you to stray. I never once said it's ot correct to marry. Indeed the bible says that we should marry because we are not strong enough to deny our fleshly desire and the bible also tells you how a marriage should be. Believe me when I tell you that I do not nit pick the bible. I do however receive what is relevant to my situation in life or what I need at the moment. If you want to know a bit more about me. I have started to believe that there is no God and that Jesus couldn't have saved me because why would I matter. I was going on a dark part: seeing no reason to deny sin anymore and even to not want to live anymore. So I was planning it all out in my head, but something was holding me back and that was what about the people I leave behind? So I told someone close to me what I believed and He opened the bible and I read for the first time what stands in it for real. So my life was a complete lie and I was just living based on what other people told me and never seeked it out myself. That's why I started to believe there is no purpose to life and it wouldn't matter if I go. And so that bight when I actually went through the few verses I started to pray. A few weeks after that (still not understanding what I am reading) I dreamed of a bright light in my room and out of the light a voice asked me if I am ready. At first I said yes and started too stand up from my bed and then suddenly I hid under the covers crying saying I am not ready. And when I woke up I cried because of this heavy weight leaving me for the first time ever. I repented too and cried so much because I knew for the first time how wrong I was. I gave my heart to Jesus and I want to get baptized too. After that I have left a lot behind with the strength that Jesus gave me. I am still learning as I go and I know I might not be correct on everything right away. I have been attacked in my sleep waking up to pray what I still need to fix and slowly but surely things are going out of my life that is not God's intended plan. I don't know why you felt the need to comment on my comment and yet you watched the same video as I did and felt the need to give me your perspective. Once again thank you and indeed if what you have said is correct I will ask God who created heaven and earth and all that dwell in it if it is indeed correct. I do apologize that I have commented the way I did. I don't want to come forth as if I am shoving my perspective of my journey where I am at down someone's throat. I will keep reading and praying. I too hope to find a church that teaches the correct biblical teaching of God's living word. Thus far I have not found a church. I don't want to argue on who is right and who is wrong. If I am wrong then I will get the answer and I deeply apologize for it. All in time I believe and I will be silent on my journey until the time is right too. I don't want people to struggle in faith or lead them away from believing. Infaxt you have told me that I am doing it completely wrong and I have read to keep your words little on earth and I should life more towards that. Also just to clarify (not calling myself a Christian is mearly my own decision. It doesn't mean I am saying calling yourself one if wrong or right indeed. It's actually an eartly term and it means little christ and I just do not want to call myself a little Christ because by no means am I perfect as my savior. I would rather call myself nothing and stand firm in my believes, but if someone was going out and killing people for believing Jesus died and rose again then be sure to find me there in line. For take up your cross and follow Jesus. Calling myself a Christian wouldn't make me one now would it? I hope I did not sound angry or offended in any way. Thank you for caring enough to help. I appreciate it. I am working on it and I will be praying on it. My journey is young and I still have a lot to learn. Be blessed and keep spreading the word. ❤

False teachers are not part of the flock. They have entered in to kill, steal and destroy. They make money out of ignorant people.

@@tmo4330 the cessationists are the false teachers, the very ones ironically doing these videos.

Poor Bishop Hooper is fantastic.

Sovereign Grace is just wonderful, pure doctrine, beautiful songs. Also check out Selah, and Shane & Shane

@@RightResponseMinistries Keith & Kristen Getty, Cityalight

Messianic hebrew worship ❤️

What? How in the world do you get that from songs like What a Beautiful Name it is?

@@tracy8508 the first line in 2nd verse is heretical. If you read your Bible you know what i mean

@@yelgutierrez4184 how is that heretical? The whole point of sins being paid for by Jesus’ sacrifice was so that man and God could have unity. God wouldn’t have done what He did if He didn’t want us with Him in Heaven. Then it ejects the whole end of Revelations.

@@tracy8508that is the only bible related song one can sing of them,,

@@yelgutierrez4184 Get a clue whats wrong with you

Yeah theys just bad songs at times too

@Donnie Jax He is a cessstionist - a pharsisee-like heretic that edits the Word of God to suit his theology rather than taking his theology from the Word. He rejects Mark 16, Eph 4; 1 Cor 22 - 15 and many other passages to suit his false cults doctrine. And because he rejects every BIBLICAL form of the Holy Spirits activity in the church today, his ministry is powerless and fruitless. He is trying to build a church by stealing sheep from other churches rather than the Biblical pattern of healing the sick and casting out devils and miracles then creating a church from those you reached by using the TOOLS of God to do the WORK of God.

@@paulrobinson9318 You are misrepresenting these men here, when you claim they don't believe the Holy Spirit is active thru gifting a healing to some that is sick. If you would listen to them, you would understand what your saying is wrong. Rightly understanding them, would be that they don't believe the sign gifts are given to one person any longer, like Prophets or Apostles as in the Bible. The premises for this belief, is because the foundation of the church is built on the Apostles and Prophets, and has been laid already thru the bible Apostles and Prophets. And when building a church you don't keep laying a foundation, because at some point you have to build upwards with walls, roof, etc. This is done, thru the Pastors, Teachers, Evangelists and other gifts. Also, they do believe God can cause miracles, healings, etc at His will; not because someone who calls themselves anointed, and a Prophet or an Apostle, and therefore wills healing or miracles to happen. So, have you healed anyone lately? Go lay hands on Beni Johnson....her breast cancer is back. Why can't Bill heal his own wife or anyone else ( he just talks about healings, but as yet can give no medical proof of miracles) Bill sales, to those that follow him, the dream of elitism, that they can be Apostles or Prophets too....and then Bill proceeds to give them the formula to success in healing. When in actual reality, Bill can't even do what he claims is true...and neither can you! Truth is God is sovereign and your not God or even close like a "little god"! He also, convinces you that he actually preaches salvation and cares about the eternity of souls....when tells his students not to preach the biblical salvation message to the lost sinners. Bill teaches that Jesus was not God while on earth, so that he can teach, as truth, to you a lie, that we are equal to Jesus. ( He writes this in his book: "When Heaven Invades Earth") He de-elevates Christ to a mere man, in order to elevate sinful man to godhood; Mormonism teaches this heresy. Do you believe this, that Jesus was not God? This is an age-old lie and it started in the Garden of Eden.... Didn't Satan want to ascend above God? [Isa 14:12-15 NKJV] 12 "How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [How] you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations! 13 For you have said in your heart: 'I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sides of the north; 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.' 15 Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, To the lowest depths of the Pit. Didn't Satan tempt Adam and Eve with being their own gods by putting doubts about their place as God's creation and God as their creator? [Gen 3:1, 4-5 NKJV] 1 Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, "Has God indeed said, 'You shall not eat of every tree of the garden'?" ... 4 Then the serpent said to the woman, "You will not surely die. 5 "For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

+@@EAB-bz6yi I cannot answer all the unbiblical confusion in your post in one response. I note the scarcity of SCRIPTURE and the preedominance of OPINION and false teaching in your post. I note the IMPOSITION of man's OPINION over SCRIPTURE; the OPPOSITE of how CHRISTIANS are to live. "@Paul Robinson You are misrepresenting these men here, when you claim they don't believe the Holy Spirit is active thru gifting a healing to some that is sick." YOU twist my statement. They Do NOT believe in ANY of the Charismata taught by Paul in 1 Cor 12 - 15 - OR the OFFICES of Eph 4 - and some of their ilk are BLUNT in their BLAPHEMY that those miracles and healings that they ADMIT DO happen - the EVIDENCE for miracles is OVERWHELMING unless you live under a rock - are done by the power of the devil. I can find you RECENT quotes to that effect. The DEVIL NEVER heals anyone in JESUS name. " If you would listen to them, you would understand what your saying is wrong." I have - by the hour. And done point by point critiques with SCRIPTURE on many of their false teachings. YOU fail to make a case or cite a single example. YOU could assist your case by actualy quoting ONE example where they will grant ANY of the Charismata still are in existence - they IGNORE the reality of MODERN everyday miracles and gifts to maintain their false teachings. I would be DELIGHTED to be proven wrong - BUT you CAN NOT! That is why I literally left family and friends behind when I came to a KNOWLEDGE of the SCRIPTURES. "Rightly understanding them, would be that they don't believe the sign gifts are given to one person any longer, like Prophets or Apostles as in the Bible. " YES - EXACTLY my POINT - ANY LONGER? Where is that in the BIBLE? The ENDING time for all the supernatural manifestations JESUS, the apostles and prophets taught about is when CHRIST returns and NOT a MINUTE before. SO, these sign gifts were given to the CHURCH and all in it, FOREVER - NOT the however many apostles (27?) and prophets (15?) you may think are in the NT - and the teaching of the cult I escaped from. HOW is YOUR rephrased claim any different from MY own claims? They REJECT both the GIFTS and OFFICES of the HOLY SPIRIT as plainly taught in SCRIPTURE, and attack those that obey SCRIPTURE and actively seek those gifts. And show me ANY POSSIBLE scripture that would even SUGGEST that those gifts that Paul commended the Corinthians - the WHOLE CHURCH - for ACTIVELY and ENTHUSIASTICALLY seeking, were ONLY for the apostles? YOU cannot! Your 'uniniated' leaders, to use Paul's term - DO NOT BELIEVE that those gifts are ANY LONGER given to individuals, contrary to EVERY indication and reading of SCRIPTURE. How is your statement NOT an AFFIRMATION of my statement? "The premises for this belief, is because the foundation of the church is built on the Apostles and Prophets, and has been laid already thru the bible Apostles and Prophets. " NONSENSE. And QUITE out of context in Eph 2:20 written to mainly GENTILES. The CONTEXT is the AMALGAMATION of the Jewish and Gentile believers. The same cement used in the foundation is used in the walls as well - and for NEW construction in new locations. That is the DEVILS excuse for lack of power in the church - NOT Gods WORD, that says NOTHING about those gifts that GOD gave to the GENTILE/jewish church ever leaving. Those GIFTS were ESTABLISHED by the prophets and apostles and MODELED for the REST of the church to win the WORLD with. We are to IMITATE the apostles - and do the things they did. WE are to do the things JESUS did, if you want to be BIBLICAL! John 14:12 - 14. Mark 16 makes it IMPOSSIBLE to be a believer WITHOUT those gifts following your belief - and that was said to a couple HUNDRED people, NOT the "apostles and prophets" The Prophets and apostles listed here are NOT the OT prophets - BUT the apostles and prophets listed as the NT GIFTS to the CHURCH - The WHOLE church - for all time. " 11 And he himself gave some as apostles, some as prophets, some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, 12 to equip the saints for the work of ministry, that is, to build up the body of Christ, 13 until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God-a mature person, attaining to the measure of Christ’s full stature. " TRY and find an ENDING point to that GIFTING to the church - you CANNOT! The Bible records at least 37 apostles and a dozen or so prophets - which do you think were the foundation? What makes you think that God is NOT establishing new churches based on TODAYS prophets and apostles? I KNOW that He is . . . Your VIEW that those offices no longer exist is anti-Biblical and anti-Historical. "And when building a church you don't keep laying a foundation, because at some point you have to build upwards with walls, roof, etc." YOU miss the point of the illustration. "This is done, thru the Pastors, Teachers, Evangelists and other gifts." Like the apostle and prophets - workers of miracles, GIFTS of healing, speakers in tongues. . . WHY would ONE pass away and NOT the others? - They were given to the church til CHRIST returns. YOU are simply regurgitation the same cultic NONSENSE that I was Blessed enough to escape many decades ago - a TWISTED view of the GIFTS of GOD that YOU only arrived at by REALLY bad traching. YOU would NEVER come to that mindset from reading the TEXTS from the BIBLE in CONTEXT! "Also, they do believe God can cause miracles, healings, etc at His will;" That's REALLY nonsense - GOD gave GIFTS of miracles/healing to the church - WHY do you think that was? How many times have THEY actually laid hands on someone and seen them healed? I know the answer - NONE! How many people did JESUIS heal? NOT everyone to be sure, but LOTS. Are we NOT to continue HIS work on earth? Jesus said we were to do so. How many do everyday simple men of God walking in the POWER of God bring miracles/healing to? Many HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS. 85% of all Chinese Christian were BORN again because of a DIRECT involvement with a MIRACLE. Miracles have ALWAYS been a main method of Evangelism since the time of the early church. I have PERSONALLY seen many - at least a dozen - INSTANTANEOUS MIRACLES of severe and NOTED physical conditions. I have NO idea how many were Healed over time following my prayers. WE see a MIRACLE - the GIFT(S) of healing remove the cause of the illness and the BODY heals itself. They are NOT so visible. My being healed from the medical outcome of being in a wheelchair caused by spinal arthritis happened over months. My son's twisted leg was healed over weeks. Every Christian should have that testimony. Its NOT anything special - it's the NORMAL life of the CHURCH where the HOLY SPIRIT is. BUT Jesus said we were to ask and He would do it - Paul says that GOD set in the church GIFTS of HEALINGS - PLURAL - NOT the James kind of answers to prayer by calling the elders (GIFTED Men) but GIFTS - men GIFTED to do the WORKS of GOD in the church through signs and wonders - the LIST is begun by JESUS in Mark 16 from His OWN lips. "not because someone who calls themselves anointed, and a Prophet or an Apostle, and therefore wills healing or miracles to happen." That is a terribly demeaning statement - BUT its TYPICAL of the arrogance of the cessationists. NO ONE 'appoints' or 'calls' themselves anything - like any pastor, teacher, etc - the APPINTMENT or NAMING is made on the basis of the OBVIOUS gifting and calling of GOD. NOONE "WILLS" anything - the issue here is that you have absolutely NO terms of reference as to what you are opposing with such reckless ignorance. YOU negative commenting on the GIFTS of the SPIRIT is like a 10 year old giving sex advice - you many know the terms but NOT any understanding of how they work. Paul calls such Christians 'uniniated'. bible.knowing-jesus.com/words/Uninitiated ALL these men that these slander sites attack are BOTH Gifted and Called by GOD - it's these slanderers who are Guilty of blaspheming that Gift and Calling GOD Himself gave . . to make their own ministry look presentable and cover up their spiritual lack. Ichabod churches - having the NAME of GOD but DENYING His POWER. You PERFECTLY illustrate: "2 Tim 3:5 holding to a form of godliness although they have denied its power; avoid such people as these." SO there you have ONE of a dozen ways I could show your Ichabod and bankrupt theology to be at BEST a humanistic argument - at WORST the DEVILS control of teaching in the church of the LIVING God. A pitiful powerless social club for the self flagellating losers that claim to be the ONLY representative of GOD's of healing and hope and the salvation message to the WORLD today. I'll deal with your HOST of ignorance, illiteracy and INSULTS in another post. IF you want to point out from SCRIPTURE where I am wrong - PLEASE do so - I still have friends in the cessationist camp. BUT stop with the WHATABOUTS - it proves NOTHING. We ALL live our Christian life beneath our RIGHTS and priviledges. Your insults are beneath ANY child of God

Indeed. Their open actions of heresy and blasphemy would have warranted capital punishment.

Not so. Jeremiah prophesied some things that didn’t come to pass, and most prophecies were contingent on obedience. You don’t understand

@@chrish5791 a lot of prophecy in the Bible was conditional.

@@pberggre - "Jeremiah prophesied some things that didn't come to pass" Please list one. I have searched and can't find any.

@@Charles.Wright Jonah prophesied to Nineveh about their destruction and because they changed their way, that didnt happen. Was that a false prophesy or the Mercy and Grace of God?

This should be a clue there is NOTHING wrong with them. I love them too. I do not like these religious guys that don’t know what they’re talking and deceiving people.

He is speaking the truth and nothing but the truth.Thank you very much.

There is nothing to say who made a miracle. It isn't worship but declaration. No mention of God or Jesus. Could be a song on secular radio

@@paulettekennamer333 This is only one part of the song. During g the song it they mentioned that The GRACE of Jesus, brought me here". I didn't want to copy all the lyrics, was a bit long.

Heres whats wrong with these lyrics- The word "I" is written 11 times. The word " Jesus" "God" or "Holy Spirit"...ZERO. This type of music is simply cerebrating ones love of loving ones love. Make sense? Its like saying " hey look at how much I love loving my own love!!" Its the difference between saying God is Love or saying Love is God. BIG difference. Bethel etc are not worshipping God, they are worshipping worship.

Sir by using this music in your Church may also lead your members to these other Heretical Chuches and they think your Church agrees with the teaching from these churches

@@paulettekennamer333 No if you bothered to read my comments, I only copied part of the lyrics. It is someone's testimony, so it will be about him and what he went through. They do mention Jesus. But don't bother now, people made up their minds. I will still use it as a worship song - thank you for your response.

This is true.. I use to be in our churches worship team and when it was revealed to me that we shouldn't be singing their songs, I very respectfully brought it up to our worship leader and he very rudely dismissed me and had me seat out for a month. My father who was a respected minister of that church spoke to the pastor about that incident. And rather than cause any division or problems I just told the pastor that I no longer would be singing with the praise team. For me it was more important the worship aspect and that if I were seated all the way in the back part of the church that it didn't matter because I knew that God would be listening to my voice from there and in the end I only cared about him listening to my praises. I ended up leaving that church and now feel happy where I am at. I am not a part of the worship team at my new church but that doesn't matter to me. When we worship it's all about God and he alone. 😊

@@valentinogal781 Well done Karlee. You have Gods true Spirit in you - this is how you are able to discern and be humble in your actions. I was also part of a worship team for a long time. But I realised the 'false way' in which we (including me) were worshipping. I haven't lead or been part of a team (or played my guitar) for many many years. I now endeavour to worship our Heavenly Father in my actions, thoughts, words, interactions and by searching His Word. Be blessed Karlee - hear a passage for you: "Humble yourselves, therefore, under God's mighty hand, that He may lift you up in due time, Cast all your anxiety on Him because He cares for you." 1 Peter 5:6-7

@@byronbarker6860 You play guitar? Me too.. The best way you can bring God glory is by picking up your guitar and even if you are alone play and sing to him with all your heart, mind and soul. 😊😊💜💜 The Lord loves to be exalted when. You are along. I do it very often. I play my guitar in my room and sing and meditate on the words of the song and sing them with all my heart. 😊 sometimes he will find the means to move things around to put you in a worship group. It's all in his desire or will. As for me I don't need to be a part or a choir or worship group. As long as I get to sing to him while I am alone and do so with all my heart I can tell he is pleased because my room fills up with his presence and I can feel his holy spirit and love embrace me. Thank you for the the scripture. I have one for you.. 😊😊😊 John 4:24 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.” I love sing "Nothing Else" whenever I am along and before I begin to pray. I worship for about 30 min.. before praying. 😊😊 But yes that song "Nothing Else" makes me feel God very close everytime I play and sing it.

@@valentinogal781 Thank you Karlee. You have given me much to think about. I will have a listen to the song. Might never see you in this short life - but I will see you at the feast table with our King - we can worship Him together then 🎶

@@byronbarker6860 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4BhTAJ49MQ0.html And you are right. One day in heaven we will worship together. 🙏

Im not sure if youre still there.Ill just leave these few words i guess. Lock you eyes only to Jesus, regardless of everything. Jesus alone and every pieces will fit to its proper places.

​@@markalmencion5530 Well said! (His hebrew name is Yahusha, the J word is made up - I would invite you to plz pray & research, as it is life-changing & the beginning of much!)

@@shellperry4840 Yeah i know the real name of Jesus is Yeshua and the name of our God is Yahua. I only use the common name. Thanks for the heads up tho. Yah Bless.

@@markalmencion5530 Hello, God knows all who sincerely seek Him. Continue to pray and study especially the book of Daniel and Revelation. You will find the path to true worship.

For me as long as they were bringing people closers to God. . accepting Jesus as their Lord and Savior and bringing people into repentance. Differences wasn't an issue 😊😊😊

You’re absolutely right! We address that with very strong words in the next episode (Part 2 of this conversation). It will air on Wednesday, 6-16.

No, Justin is obviously doing this for youtube popularity and ironically he's a religious fool who doesn't know what he's talking about!

@@tracy8508 you’re right and changed my mind about him

@@kevinmontgomeryjr9773 I'm guessing this is sarcasm but wish it were true.

@@tracy8508 oh no not at all. You’ve shown me that he’s wrong about all the false prophets and their many predictions in the last year and a half and all their teaching about a miracles and the miracles that they have preformed. I’m throughly convinced now and switched sides to being a full charismatic. Can’t wait to send in all my money now to them and get rich and start living my best life now.

Hi there. If any song is theologically in error it shouldn’t be sung. Hymn or ballad or more-pop-style - doesn’t matter to me.

The larger difference is now people go to the church the worship band is from via the internet. Whereas in days old this was not able. So now we are taken right to the bad theology and more of the teaching.

If it doesn’t exalt God, it’s ungodly.

@@dfischer5878 wrong church

I had the same question which no one can answer worship was started in heaven before it hit earth. So what scripture were they singing but praising God in heaven , hymns comes from the Greek word hymnos which means songs of praise not necessarily to praise God but we praise God almighty . Psalm is the Hebrew root word which means to pluck like stringed instrument it doesn’t mean the psalms David wrote or sang. You can write a song inspired through the Holy Ghost and it is still Ephesians 5:19 . Idk it gets very confusing what’s accepted and what’s not on worshipping The God we all serve. Hope this makes sense lol

so glad ou brought out the drum story,,,,,, its not good,,

How do they explain away the Spiritual Gifts, Miracles, Healing and Deliverance? God spent so much time telling us about them in the Bible and now we have these "so called, Educated preachers" Telling everyone what a true church is, which churches are cults, etc. as I previously mentioned, they are trying to make churches/Religions so that Faith is NOT needed.

It's biblical to speak out against them though..

Boe, no.

It’s not biblical when YOU are wrong Jake!

What do you mean by charismatic movement.

@@angelface22003 It's a term used for the movement that came out of the Pentecostal church and focuses on an experiential "baptism in the spirit." In stead of typing it all out, here is something I found that is quick to read, sums up its issues, and is very likely the reason they have had issues with this counterfeit holy spirit. www.middletownbiblechurch.org/doctrine/10reason.htm

Daniel Adams has said pubically that one of his spiritual mentors is Rhienhard Bonkke, who in turn said that without the financial support of Kenneth Copland, he would never have been able to " evangelize" in Africa. Daniel Adams is simply another of the growing crowd of low hanging fruit deliverance ministries that have popped up. Its sooo sooo sad that people with a real desire to find and follow Jesus are getting DEVOURED by these wolves.

@@jeffmcelroy5364 How are the getting devoured? How do you explain away deliverance? How do you explain away spiritual gift? How do you explain away healings and Miracles? How? It's all in the Bible.

@@joejustin007 Amen! It's a horrible religious spirit meant to keep people from all God has for them and ironically they think they are right. Sad.