3" vs 5" Freestyle

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If you feel like building a 5" Freestyle Drone is too hard, you just need the right guidance.
So, I built a course with 71 highly detailed but simple modules, breaking down absolutely everything! They're can't be anything missing, if there is, I will add it. Which is better 5" Freestyle FPV, 3.5" FPV, or 3" Freestyle FPV? These sizes are popular choices among FPV Pilots, but there's more to consider than size when choosing your quadcopter. FPV Pilots tend to gravitate towards the 5" Freestyle Quad, often overlooking the potential of smaller drones like the 3.5" FPV. While the 5" Quad is a powerhouse, it's not always the right tool for every job.
My 5" Freestyle FPV is built with a Foxeer Mega frame, Foxeer F722 v4 flight controller, Foxeer Reaper F4 65a ESC, and the advanced DJI O3 Air Unit. It's powered by FlyFish RC Flash 2306 1750kv Motors and a Tattu R-Line 6S 1050mah Battery, with a tuning from the SupaFly 5" Freestyle Preset.
Comparatively, my 3.5" FPV uses a Foxeer Mega frame too, but with a Foxeer Reaper v4 AIO featuring an F745 processor and 45A BLS ESC flashed with BlueJay. It also includes the DJI O3 Air Unit and is powered by 1804 2400kv motors and a CNHL 6S 650mah Battery, tuned with the SupaFly 3-4" Freestyle Tune.
In practice, the smaller 3.5" Quad excelled in tighter spaces, offering more flexibility and creative expression during flight. On the other hand, the 5" Quad, while powerful, required more cautious handling to avoid mishaps.
The future of FPV isn't just about the 5" Quad but about choosing the right tool for the right job. Embrace versatility; don't limit yourself to a single drone size. Explore different models like the 3.5" FPV and 3" Freestyle FPV, equip them with high-quality components like Foxeer Flight Controllers and ESC's and DJI O3 Air Unit, and experience more time flying FPV.
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@DarrenAllatt 8 месяцев назад

@ricardoferreira2811 Год назад

Completely agree with this video. And don't forget the noise, I live in an urban area and even a 2.5" with O3 seems appelling.

@wica6145 9 месяцев назад

My arsenal are 5 inch 6s for bando basher, 3.5 inch 4s for park flyer, 2 inch 2s for backyard flyer and a tiny whoop for indoor. Every quad build have their own habitat

@DarrenAllatt 9 месяцев назад

Spot on!

@MadDragon75 Год назад

I don't understand why nobody likes 4". I flew them for years and still love them.

@DarrenAllatt Год назад

🤷‍♂️ I think because it’s harder to hit sub 250 with 4”

@MadDragon75 Год назад

@@DarrenAllatt Oh.. Yeah. Good point.

@sixtofive 11 месяцев назад

One of my favorites builds is a 4" setup on 5" arms. Most frames try to make the design as compact as absolutely possible, but I've found the wider stance with room between the props has a different feel in the air that I enjoy flying.

@MadDragon75 11 месяцев назад

@@sixtofive too bad there's a huge difference in arm thickness between my Apex 4" and my Apex HD 5" arms. I'd love to try this.

@sixtofive 11 месяцев назад

@@MadDragon75 Yeah, definitely won't work as well with heavier frames. Do they make 6" arms for the Apex? Could try the same concept, but with 5" props. Mine was on a power pick frame from fpvcycle, so it was light to begin with. Auw with a 4s 850 was 265 grams.

@soursham 11 месяцев назад

Something to think about. Great video💯

@DarrenAllatt 11 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@leonardterlevic4765 11 месяцев назад

I really like my 2.5 inch micro, it runs on 2s and is more than enough for the spots I can fly. A bigger quad would be better but I simply don't have much access to spots where I could fly a 5 inch or even a 3.5 inch.

@DarrenAllatt 11 месяцев назад

is a bigger quad actually "better" if it sits on your shelf and gathers dust? no. Bigger is not better, that's a fallacy. Why use a drill when a precision screwdriver is what's actually needed. what is better is using the right tool for the right job.

@Warchild-Media 11 месяцев назад

YOU ALWAYS MAKE DAM SENSES..GREAT JOB ...I JUST GOT THE CINEBOT 30....SAFETY #1

@DarrenAllatt 11 месяцев назад

It's because I am Australian, we excel at logic.

@GregQuillen 11 месяцев назад

Depends where I'm flying what I use. In house or my small backyard. 1.6" and 2" sometimes my 3" if I go lil further out.. 6" when I'm in this HUGE open fields where trees areas far apart

@DarrenAllatt 11 месяцев назад

Exactly, right quad for the right environment

@djimini4proclip 26 дней назад

can I use 850 or 1050mah battery on 3.5" fpv?

@Gorodkov33 11 месяцев назад

Hi, nice video. Thanks. How is frame foxeer mega 5"? Will you make a review?

@DarrenAllatt 11 месяцев назад

Yes, soon

@MindRiderFPV 3 месяца назад

Started with a 3” but I fly my 5” now. The 3 can’t carry a GoPro. 5” is the standard for me, still on the old air unit. I keep the 3 as a trick trainer.

@ThirdEyeFPV 11 месяцев назад

My racing times with my 3.5" Foxeer Caesar are as fast as my 5" times. Not sure if that says more about the tight tracks at Eastside or if 5" quads have more power than I can handle! Prob a bit of both hehe

@DarrenAllatt 11 месяцев назад

Maybe worth trying a Motor output limit or throttle limit on your 5" and gradually increase it. Sounds like you are blowing out your lines on the 5", but the 3" gets you tighter as its less powerful

@DarrenAllatt 10 месяцев назад

Learn to Build a 5" Freestyle FPV Drone 🎓 www.darrenfpv.com/buildmasterclass-5freestyle

@FpvSage 11 месяцев назад

Right now I am flying a tiny whoop, a 3, and a 3.5. Currently building a 5. The power difference between my 3 and 3.5 is definitely noticeable and I can freestyle better with the 3.5. I can’t want to see what the 5 has to offer.

@pottyputter05 11 месяцев назад

Oh man if it a light build you'll be blown away by most anything you can build new these days 6s 1300mah elrs 1000hz 🎉🎉

@DarrenAllatt 11 месяцев назад

Key thing to watch out for with 5" is that it's easy to end up on the moon with a throttle blip.

@yonseimatt Год назад

My fleet ranges from 65mm whoops up to a couple of 5" freestyle rigs, and the ones I reach for most are my 3" (approx 170g auw) and my 2" 2s whoop. I fly the 5" quads very rarely and never if there are people around.

@DarrenAllatt 11 месяцев назад

What's the setup of your 2"

@yonseimatt 11 месяцев назад

@@DarrenAllatt It's an odd one. Started life as a Meteor85 pro, when I smashed the FC in a crash and the ELRS stopped working, I rebuilt it with a JHEMCU 16mm stack (F405 FC and 2-4s 13A ESC) and a Happymodel OVX300 VTX. Camera is Caddx Ant, and the canopy is the 3D printed TPU one from the Happymodel Crux3 (I cut off the inbuilt mount for the Go2/ Peanut, and the resulting canopy isn't much heavier than stock but is basically indestructible). RX is a generic ceramic antenna one. Frame is stock Meteor85, as are the 1103 10,000kv BetaFPV motors. Props... I didn't like the original 2020 quad blades, very floaty, but when you cut off two of the blades to make them biblades, this is the best prop I've found for this type of whoop. Weight went up from 47g (stock) to 53g, and the additional 6g have addressed all of the durability issues (except the frame of course, but that's already acceptable). It's got plenty of power and doesn't really notice the extra 6g.

@yonseimatt 11 месяцев назад

Oh, obviously I had to drill the frame for stack screws- I just used one of those little carbon 16-20-25 adapters as a jig. Whole stack sits above the battery tray and just fits under the canopy (which has a big flat cross, so it can't really stick up higher than the original AIO would have done. Flies noticeably better with the F405 than the original F411.

@wokbok43 11 месяцев назад

I fly 3.5 inch. The best thing I can nearly fly any park and not attract attention to myself. Darren that 3.5 inch looks good I might get al the specs and build the exact same quad !!!!!! Loooks Sweet !

@GregQuillen 11 месяцев назад

Yea 3.5" great size. Kind wosh I built 3.5" not 3". But at time only one was emax and was out of stock

@DarrenAllatt 11 месяцев назад

Frame: Foxeer Mega 3.5" Frame FC/ESC: Foxeer Reaper AIO v4 Motors: T-Motor 1804 - for 6S use 2400kv and for 4S use 3400kv Battery: 6S, Bonka 6S 550mah and for 4S, Tattu 4S 850mah

@fly249g Год назад

🔥

@kennykobi 9 месяцев назад

Wish I heard you mention the first set of motors the first time. I ended up buying them and yes. I'm stuck on a light battery. Exactly what I didn't want. It's nice to toss the 1200 on both. My 5in with the 550mah isn't my personal choice. Seems to be exactly what I was looking for, but someone stated the motors where to heavy. SMH thanks for the review.

@DarrenAllatt 9 месяцев назад

Which motors were heavy?

@kennykobi 9 месяцев назад

@DarrenAllatt a 23mm motor on a 3.5 in build. Crazy right. The axis and fpvcycle are the only two.

@kennykobi 9 месяцев назад

the motors you mentioned that were on your build originally. I got because I was told the 23mm was to heavy when it's clearly not. Don't get me wrong the xnovas 1804 rip but they require a smaller battery.

@DarrenAllatt 9 месяцев назад

A 23mm motor is a 2306, it’s not designed for a 3.5” or a 4” - they’re 5” motors and are way too heavy. What size battery are you putting on a 3.5”

@pbirchmeier 11 месяцев назад

Recalling your car comparison, which I like, I would add Lotus cars, built lightweight and agile, and dont require a hefty engine to compete with heavier sportscars like 911s, and driving fun is definitively bigger on the lightweight car. Thanks for challenging the "standards"!

@DarrenAllatt 11 месяцев назад

You'd like a 5" Ultra Lite then, try the Ummagawd 2Fiddy 5"

@9Rizla9 Год назад

Is this onboard video? Do you get props in view with this frame?

@DarrenAllatt Год назад

Yes. That’s onboard video of the DJI O3 Camera on both frames. As you can see, no props in view both on the 5” and 3.5”

@vortkes4684 Год назад

The right tool for the right job

@JuicySmullietFPV Год назад

Agreed! And can you ever have too many drones? 😊

@sunsetpark_fpv 11 месяцев назад

For me, in NYC, I couldn't trust my first build, a 5". I was too afraid to crash land on someone's head or face....but damn, I can whoop the hell out of my tiny whoop with little worry.

@DarrenAllatt 11 месяцев назад

Nothing wrong with Whooping! There are a lot of pilots who can freestyle and sbang whoops better than most can fly 5"

@wokbok43 11 месяцев назад

Hey Darren can you post links to where I can buy all the parts for the 3.5"...Please please please !

@DarrenAllatt 11 месяцев назад

Foxeer website!

@divingfalconfpv4602 3 месяца назад

I use my 3" at certain parks or my very light 4". My 2" or whoop in my backyard in neighborhood. Big open places 5" and 6" Though my 5" LR i think might be quieter than my 3" 🤔 🤣

@christopherconkright1317 2 месяца назад

My 3inch with battery is 350g

@Sleeperknot 6 месяцев назад

So, if a 3.5-inch can do everything that a 5-inch does, then why go for a 5-inch? I am starting to build my first FPV drone and 5-inch seemed to be the default choice. Now I am confused. What are the advantages of a 5-inch compared to a 3.5?

@DarrenAllatt 6 месяцев назад

Just can’t carry a full size GoPro

@Sleeperknot 6 месяцев назад

@@DarrenAllatt thank you. So 5 inch it is.

@JohnIn2SonAZ 8 месяцев назад

Look at the Axisflying Manta 3.6 it is faster than most 5 inch quads.

@DarrenAllatt 8 месяцев назад

🤣 faster isn’t better. It’s a freestyle quad not a racer, and you can just put higher kv motors on a build to get more speed anyway.

@verdi6092 11 месяцев назад

2-2.5inch indoor, 3.5-5inch outdoor

@michaelwilson3946 11 месяцев назад

I mostly fly 5 inch, but I'll fly my 3 inch in the backyard. About 360 grams. Maybe a little heavy, but i was try to scale down by size as well as weight. 3/5 the weight of my 5 inch. I built a sub250, and it felt like a paper airplane. Not what im looking for

@DarrenAllatt 11 месяцев назад

change the motor idle percentage on the motors tab in betaflight to 4.5% or even 4%, that will remove the floatyness. Perhaps you also have too high KV for it

@michaelwilson3946 11 месяцев назад

@Darren Allatt it's worth messing around with some more. Thanks for the input.

@LostCloudx4 11 месяцев назад

Lol yes. I have 2x 5in, a 25 whoop and 35 whoop.... I use the 25 so much more as can fly in condo garage, out in fields...inside nightclub... 5in not so much, but for out open areas....the 5in wins every time

@DarrenAllatt 11 месяцев назад

If you go to an Open Area where its not as big as a soccer park, maybe a playground, your 5" isn't going to win every time.