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Today I'm comparing four different ways to anchor a fence or deck post. Cheers!
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@timcallinan
@timcallinan 4 месяца назад
Pair of legends. Absolutely love jeff. I'm sure there are thousands similar to me out there because of jeff. Started watching him years ago. Gave me the confidence and knowledge to do my own bathroom, then a fence, then a patio, fireplace reno, kitchen and other bathroom - did the whole house. Saved probably 100k and enjoyed every minute of it. People found my work and I started getting paid to do it. More bathrooms, ktichens, fences, etc. Paid off my wife's student loans in no time. So if you read this Jeff- I want you to think of the thousands of folks you helped out there.
@timcallinan
@timcallinan 4 месяца назад
Maybe millions....hard to get your head around. The man is singlehandedly making the lack of housing crisis- a little less severe
@shawkn3641
@shawkn3641 4 месяца назад
The hero we need, but perhaps not the one we deserve. Thanks Uncle Jeff!.
@lilolmecj
@lilolmecj 4 месяца назад
Even if he doesn’t, I am very excited by your success!!
@builtat_the_beach1516
@builtat_the_beach1516 Месяц назад
I've been doing fences for many years and we always just pour regular quickcrete dry in the hole add the dirt get the post level tamper it down. Build the fence. Check each post with bottom and top string then add a little water around each post. Idk where ur at but where I live the ground is wet enough for the concrete to get hard already. No need to wait for them to set for a day or brace up. Do the whole fence in one day. Never had a problem or call back
@brutucas5904
@brutucas5904 4 месяца назад
great show as i have some fence posts to put in next year, and I need one for the gate. Now i know what to pick up. very helpful
@knatt5
@knatt5 3 месяца назад
Doesn't get much better doing DIY experiments with you kid... Beautiful ❤👏🏾👏🏾
@NOTNOTJON
@NOTNOTJON Месяц назад
Jeff's vibe is somewhere between Tim 'the Toolman' Tailor and Bob Vila and I'm 100% here for it.
@duanedodson1
@duanedodson1 Месяц назад
Yep, cocky, arrogant, doesn't know shit, shows everyone how not to do home improvement.
@msdos6670
@msdos6670 4 месяца назад
That was fun to watch. Thank you for sharing!
@Jubileejones
@Jubileejones 3 месяца назад
Just what I need! Gonna put a fence out back this summer.
@devinflint5554
@devinflint5554 4 месяца назад
Good to know nobody is ever removing the fence posts I put in (dry pour). My Brother-in-Law works for city parks and one of the old-timers said you could even just pour the dry concrete and leave it and it would eventually suck up enough moisture from the ground to harden on its own (if you're *really* not in a hurry).
@juzoli
@juzoli 4 месяца назад
And that’s still perfect for posts, unless you put weight on it.
@jacobmarx1994
@jacobmarx1994 4 месяца назад
That was really good and really informative! Funny too! Saving this video!
@secondarycontainment4727
@secondarycontainment4727 4 месяца назад
Jeff's turning into Hercules with that first post!
@quadfunpi
@quadfunpi 4 месяца назад
My dad's family had a special tool they called a "tamper", homemade. When they began to refill the hole around the post, they would tamp or pack the dirt down hard. I am 69 years old and they were here before I was. I have done the same thing and the posts are pretty sturdy. They have held cows and horses, which if they are tame, doesn't take much.
@lpnelson6584
@lpnelson6584 4 месяца назад
AGREED. My Dad did it this way, and now I do it this way. Why not just tamp down the dirt you already have? It makes it easier to replace and holds posts good enough.
@firecloud77
@firecloud77 4 месяца назад
YES! Lowe's sells what they call a *"69-in Post-hole Digging Bar"* It has a flat end for tamping dirt, and a flared end for digging. I've been using it for years to tamp soil around my posts, and they are just as solid as using cement.
@Walkop
@Walkop 23 дня назад
@@lpnelson6584 frost. If you live in cold climates, it'll slowly pull it out of the ground. Modern woods will also rot in soil. The pressure treating isn't what it used to be.
@rachaebby
@rachaebby 4 месяца назад
looooove these comparison videos!
@thecdm444
@thecdm444 Месяц назад
Love love love love love you, your post about putting in posts, it's genius, thank you!
@jaxsonhugh9334
@jaxsonhugh9334 4 месяца назад
I almost fell off my chair laughing when I saw him pour the cement in the hole without a post in it……😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@devinflint5554
@devinflint5554 4 месяца назад
And it was still the strongest of the three!
@jaxsonhugh9334
@jaxsonhugh9334 4 месяца назад
@@devinflint5554 I need to get me some of that Canadian concrete…👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@goodrabbi7176
@goodrabbi7176 4 месяца назад
That’s how it is supposed to work… especially when installing vinyl fence, which is hollow.
@leonardogarcia8073
@leonardogarcia8073 4 месяца назад
It’s concrete
@page76metalcraft19
@page76metalcraft19 4 месяца назад
Why? What's so comical about it?
@bikedawg
@bikedawg 4 месяца назад
Great video and demo--thanks!!!
@no_handle_required
@no_handle_required 4 месяца назад
I like using the foam for things that may need to be moved or replaced. Like satellite dishes, or similar. Makes removal a breeze.
@nickyj3571
@nickyj3571 3 месяца назад
Good idea
@blainehouser4354
@blainehouser4354 4 месяца назад
As always, Great Content!
@jon27d
@jon27d 2 месяца назад
I set a mailbox post two years ago with a different option. It's called Simpson Strong-tie easy Spike. It basically consists of a metal spike with a bracket for a 4x4 post at the top. Installing it was as simple as setting a sacrificial piece of 4x4 in the bracket and driving it into the ground with a sledgehammer. Then just set your post in the bracket, plum and level, and screw in place. Rock solid and if the post ever gets hit by a car or rots out it's as simple as taking a few screws out and setting a new post in the bracket. They make a longer version for fence posts. I have one sitting in my garage for a upcoming project where I have to remove part of a privacy fence and don't want to pour cement to replace the post.
@djSmokeShow
@djSmokeShow Месяц назад
I used the same thing for my mailbox. It's been hit twice and all I did was bent it and the post back to vertical and slap a new mailbox on top.
@kevinapineda8424
@kevinapineda8424 4 месяца назад
This guy is awesome!!!
@TheBabylonJohn
@TheBabylonJohn 4 месяца назад
You put an extra half bag into the rapidpost hole - so it'd obviously be heavier. plus more material at the top of the hole, so less wobble.
@williamshepherd2836
@williamshepherd2836 3 месяца назад
Plus they didn't put cement in the bottom of the first post, the procedures definitely caused the outcomes to be biased.
@Jerronnimmo
@Jerronnimmo 13 дней назад
They used two bags of cement on the first hole
@scottwinslow8772
@scottwinslow8772 4 месяца назад
Looks like you're ready to do a Cabor toss great video
@dullahan8191
@dullahan8191 4 месяца назад
I have always used the dry pour and at times I will put a few galvanized nail into the post which assist the retention to the post. Also I do the same with vinyl fence posts. My neighbor had a fence company come in and put up a fence and after two years they had posts where already lifting.
@shane250
@shane250 11 дней назад
That's a smart trick! It's like and easy rebar with a tie down for the post. Thank you!
@mromutt
@mromutt 4 месяца назад
Rapid post looks like the clear winner to me. I will have to see what its going for in my area assuming I can get it (thats an issue here often with products). For a few years I have been wanting to drop a few posts around an old concrete slab we have outback, just 3 or 4 posts for a kind of windbreak and privacy fence. I dont have the back anymore to do concrete unless I just did one at a time taking day or so breaks between, and I dont really have the budget for foam (would basically cost as much or more than the rest of the project finished). But that rapid post dry pour stuff seems the ticket at just a little more than concrete but also very easy to work with and no ticking clock until you are already done.
@mromutt
@mromutt 4 месяца назад
Looked it up, can get its for $7.33 a bag here! perfect!
@1990neill
@1990neill Месяц назад
I have had good luck with digging the post a little bit deeper than required, throw post down and when pouring concrete, lift up a tad to allow concrete to flow completely around post and bottom of it. then quickly set/level/plumb post to correct height ect. Along with making concrete a little on the wet side. really fills in the gaps and flows right around the post. with it a bit wetter than normal, it does take a little bit of extra time and focus to keep level. depending on the job, and especially if its for home, I would recommend it. have had great success so far. Always open for new methods and ways.
@BobDBuiler
@BobDBuiler 4 месяца назад
I used the foam for lamppost when that product first came out. It has held up just fine, surprisingly
@weekendwarrior3420
@weekendwarrior3420 4 месяца назад
They use foam to lift sagging driveways. I too think there is nothing wrong if the foam is right. Besides, the foam might keep it dry better than concrete.
@ruhurtrubleeding
@ruhurtrubleeding 2 месяца назад
The foam negatively impacts the life & habitat of the San Acitos dirt shrew :(
@goodrabbi7176
@goodrabbi7176 4 месяца назад
Haven’t watched yet, but THIS is the only circumstance where a dry pour is appropriate. I already know that’s how Jeff is going to do it. Love his ability to discern for us when it is appropriate to take the easy route. Thanks Jeff! You Rock!
@steveandmarniecooper4522
@steveandmarniecooper4522 3 месяца назад
Thanks!
@YesiPleb
@YesiPleb Месяц назад
There's a popular channel here in the UK (Proper DIY) where he did the same as you and tested various methods and came up with the exact same results however, he (Stuart) didn't try the last method as I don't think we have those here. We do have fence post spikes where you have to hammer them home but not those exact same things as far as I'm aware. I've got a massive fence to get put up at some point here and while I'm still researching the best method to use, I think I'll be going the concrete mix (first method) and using one of those massive vibrating rods to settle the concrete. Just looking at ways to maximise the longevity of the posts. So far thinking of tanalised posts, coat the bottom in bitumen, concrete in hold, post in, rest of concrete to the top angling the concrete downwards to take water away.
@CassieSnowLV
@CassieSnowLV Месяц назад
wow this was so informative! thanks so much! my fence recently fell down in some high winds (and it wasnt in very deep to begin with)... need to repair it
@Sue-ec6un
@Sue-ec6un 4 месяца назад
Definitely information I can use! Now, about that flat black post holder, would that be considered 'temporary" fencing? I guess I'll have to wait to find out...waiting :)
@pgnola3347
@pgnola3347 4 месяца назад
I believe you can use just about any concrete dry mix the same way as the Rapid Post. I've done that with some standard ready mix and it worked just fine for me.
@chrisw9854
@chrisw9854 4 месяца назад
Very entertaining!!
@peterallen4605
@peterallen4605 4 месяца назад
You can set the post using the same method as the rapid post with just a standard bag of concrete mix.
@knoxlowe1
@knoxlowe1 4 месяца назад
Excellent video! Nothing like a real-world test to see how a product works. I worked in the signage industry for decades and I've installed thousands of footers. Our engineers would always freak out if we ever dry-poured any smaller footings like for directional signs. I wonder if there is really any difference between a bag of Quikrete and the stuff you used?
@tay13666
@tay13666 4 месяца назад
We have heavy clay here. All we ever do is put the post in, and throw in dry concrete. There is already water in the hole by the time we start. It will stay wet and cure just fine over time. We have a 36" frost line here. Usually take a post hole digger and widen the base of the hole after auguring it out. That way it tapers and will never come up.
@n721sw
@n721sw 16 дней назад
Very good video!
@catsmeow5566
@catsmeow5566 4 месяца назад
This was interesting. I've heard sika boom shrinks after awhile so it isn't good for posts. There has to be a better way to drive that metal helical drill in without going in circles. Maybe getting a shorter board and spinning it while standing in place? Or finding a way to attach a drill to spin it? LOL. We used dry pour concrete for gate posts. A hurricane hit and the gate posts snapped off at ground level. Meanwhile, trees next to the fence had fell over and their roots came up. There is another method that wasn't shown here: the key method, but it involves a lot more digging. You dig down and put a horizontal ground rated pressure treated board up against the post to brace it from side to side. You make sure the dirt fills in around it enough that you can put another horizontal board in perpendicular and on top of the first board. I think the boards need to be about 24". If you fill in properly, they brace the post so it won't tip. Then you back fill on top of the boards to hide them.
@g2gCthe
@g2gCthe Месяц назад
hi, how is the quick concrete bad again? unless i intend to pull it out and hit it with a sledge hammer...i am not understanding it since it is the sturdiest when underground.
@bobritavr860
@bobritavr860 4 месяца назад
Hi Jeff. The way I was taught to set a post here in SW Ontario, was to auger a 8" hole 3' deep, put 6" of dry concrete in the hole, (half a bag) add some water, place the post and back-fill with soil. My fence has been up for 15 years and there has been no movement. The frost shouldn't catch the smooth fence post, and the ball of cement at the bottom will not rise or sink. I was told that all the post needs is a firm bottom so it will not sink. I do believe my method works. Thoughts?
@FranklinGray
@FranklinGray Месяц назад
So you don't have the post in concrete? I always thought the main reason for the concrete is to protect the post from rot.
@alexrimbey
@alexrimbey 4 месяца назад
Jeff you missed one other method and that is just filling the hole with road crush or angular gravel. The advantage of this method is when the post does rot in 20 years you can pull the out and replace it in the same spot. With concrete you are not getting the block of concrete out without some serious work.
@cbsunshine23
@cbsunshine23 4 месяца назад
No concrete for me .... I'll never get it out.
@weekendwarrior3420
@weekendwarrior3420 4 месяца назад
Come here to TX and show us how that screw thing works 🙂
@LifeSurfingDude
@LifeSurfingDude 4 месяца назад
haha. true, true.
@poeticsilence047
@poeticsilence047 4 месяца назад
Be more like 10hrs rather than 10min lol. I know definitely for my yard.​@LifeSurfingDude
@triciasanders2455
@triciasanders2455 4 месяца назад
😂 Right! Better bring a bobcat and attachment or they'll be no fence built on this property. Our Texas ground laughs at anything else! 😂😂😂
@Forrext
@Forrext 4 месяца назад
I was wondering how that worked so well 😆
@bellybutthole69
@bellybutthole69 Месяц назад
Usually when you get Helical Pile, they come with the machine to put them in. takes about 3 minutes each. Texas doesn't have as deep frost line as we get in Canada tho, so other methods might be as effective for less money hehe.
@chrisflavelle1200
@chrisflavelle1200 4 месяца назад
Just found Jeff a couple of days ago. Learning as I go. Just curious as to why you didn't use the old time method of putting all the dirt you took out of the hole, back into the hole. I did that on a fence to keep the kids in when they were young and then watched the landlord try to pull them out after we left. He to use a bobcat to get them out. Sometimes the old ways are still some of the best. Time to do a little binge watching.
@mthorne71
@mthorne71 Месяц назад
Great vid considering I'm about to replace some posts. So with the rapid post set concrete, is there any need to put some gravel in the bottom of the how first? Or would you suggest doing so? Thanks!
@beachday4439
@beachday4439 Месяц назад
Blueskin flashing tape around the post up to 2 inches above soil line to prevent rot. And really compact the soil around it. You'll never have to worry about boulders under your lawn. And the packed dirt is solid.
@YARDofSTUF
@YARDofSTUF 3 месяца назад
I used the foam option for a mailbox post cuz I didnt want to deal with concrete, after I poured it in I put a piece of plywood over it with a cutout for the post, so kinda C shaped, and I stood on it and held the post level while it expanded. It was easy to cut the little excess off that spilled out between the post and plywood, and its been very solid for 3 years now. I don't think Id use it for fence posts though.
@RobertTaylor-cj7zd
@RobertTaylor-cj7zd 4 месяца назад
I live within 20 miles of Mammoth Cave. The land here is known as Karst. Rock is guaranteed by the time you reach 1 foot. How am I supposed to dig a post hole...or 40?
@BBQvibesLONGBOARDrides
@BBQvibesLONGBOARDrides 25 дней назад
Thanks for the video! I’ve been wanting to put up posts for a while now to install a shade sail in our backyard. My issue is, for this application, all posts would be free-standing and not tied into any other structure. Is it even possible to install a free-standing post and not have it pitch and move drastically over time? I was even contemplating helical piles. Not very confident about that option after watching this video. Any recommendations would be appreciated, I’m at a loss for how to proceed. Thanks in advance for any input.
@shane250
@shane250 11 дней назад
The dry pour one will get stronger with time as is absorbs more moisture. It'll be interesting to see if it will break that easily after a couple of months and a few rain pours.
@cypvh74
@cypvh74 3 месяца назад
When I did my fence, I found this great metal post product online that had holes, and an open channel design, that meant never worrying about the posts rotting, and much smaller diameter holes to dig and less cement to use. But I can’t find them anymore.
@explaincauseidontgetit3294
@explaincauseidontgetit3294 Месяц назад
That gave Dr. Pimple popper feels there at the end. Good information!
@michaelbirchall2247
@michaelbirchall2247 4 месяца назад
Could you do one using gravel. I've heard it's a good way to secure a post and it drains freely too.
@georgeblakey7730
@georgeblakey7730 3 месяца назад
Yes - that's my prefered method.
@michaelbirchall2247
@michaelbirchall2247 3 месяца назад
@@georgeblakey7730 Is it strong enough? What type and size gravel?
@georgeblakey7730
@georgeblakey7730 3 месяца назад
@@michaelbirchall2247 I use 3/4" rough gravel (sharp edges not rounded), with a layer in the bottom before placing the post, and I tamp it in layers as I put it in. The posts are very stiff in the hole when done. Here in the foothills of the Rocky Mtns we get very strong winds and my fence posts never seem to move.
@michaelbirchall2247
@michaelbirchall2247 3 месяца назад
@@georgeblakey7730 That's awesome, thank you!
@justina208
@justina208 4 месяца назад
Wow it looks warm in Canada this winter
@SweetyetS0ur
@SweetyetS0ur 4 месяца назад
this was filmed over summer
@BigHeadClan
@BigHeadClan 4 месяца назад
@@SweetyetS0ur Aye summer filming, although it has been very warm though for the most part. At least here in Alberta outside a week or so of really nasty weather.
@BacktrackADV
@BacktrackADV 4 месяца назад
Jeff, can you add some commentary about the screw in? Didn’t really get the same tests done it 🤔
@JohnnyCoulthard
@JohnnyCoulthard 3 месяца назад
I would generally advise against helical piles (as shown here) for fence posts as the only strength for the fence post is vertical. Any horizontal load, especially perpendicular to the fence (i.e. wind) would easily start to stress the wood at the connection point and eventually will fail. Also, check your local building codes and soil conditions as Helical Piles in my city must be engineered for anything requiring a permit. And the soil around here is clay and rocks. Even engineered powered in helical piles are a struggle around here.
@bellybutthole69
@bellybutthole69 Месяц назад
@@JohnnyCoulthard Also , one Helical pile per post is wayyyy more expensive than any other method. probably not worth it.
@lauriesinclair7008
@lauriesinclair7008 3 месяца назад
Question my instructions tell me the tub spout should not be more than 11” below the valve, what are your thoughts.
@kittyvenven
@kittyvenven 4 месяца назад
I had to repeat to see if I heard you correctly regarding the truck. I’m anxiously waiting to see you knock these with your truck.
@aaron6708
@aaron6708 4 месяца назад
So for a fence, maybe the takeaway is: concrete with a vibrator (maybe some gravel first?). Taring the post section below grade adds a lot to longevity also. Jeff, do they make helical piles for fence posts, or just point load?
@bellybutthole69
@bellybutthole69 Месяц назад
You can use helical pile for a fence sure. I would probably say it's the "best but probably overkill and most expensive" option. Here in Canada or any northern states Helical Piles makes most sense because our frozen line is way deeper.
@clydehewlett5508
@clydehewlett5508 4 месяца назад
Hey guy😂 great show, one thing I noticed your first post cement seems to be a little dry may have to re do it. Lol 😊
@mickisix9092
@mickisix9092 4 месяца назад
My brother found another method. Filled the hole with sand and watered it down. His posts are solid.🙂
@georgeblakey7730
@georgeblakey7730 3 месяца назад
The method I've been using for years is similar but I use course gravel instead. It stays very ridged, but can be removed more easily than with concrete. Mainly though it lets water drain away from the post
@karthikr1102
@karthikr1102 2 месяца назад
That's ok but..due to regular moisture the log is damaged in surface level and cut above surface..
@djbrady
@djbrady 10 дней назад
Now try some of the cement and the foam poured into the hole before the post goes in.
@EmperorBun
@EmperorBun 29 дней назад
Great video. Was leaning toward the foam for a new fence install but will probably go with quick-set concrete based on these results. Also, what was the tool you used to lever the posts back out of the ground? I have some shrub stumps I'd like to pull out in the same manner.
@HomeRenoVisionDIY
@HomeRenoVisionDIY 29 дней назад
We used a farmer jack. Glad the video was helpful. Cheers!
@KLondike5
@KLondike5 4 месяца назад
Whether you tamp it with dirt or use concrete, it seems like you're still going to have rot out. I guess that's inevitable with anything but I like the idea of driving galvanized round poles or steel poles and putting a drilled or hollow post over it.
@jasongonzales7475
@jasongonzales7475 Месяц назад
Jeff. Where did you get that helical post, that you had to turn and turn?
@witchdoktor69
@witchdoktor69 Месяц назад
I'm confused. Jeff was loving the rapid post, but when it broke apart after 3 hits, he said that is why you don't use it and that it is only good with rebar. Then at the end he says it is his preferred method.
@brianhackett-jl3hc
@brianhackett-jl3hc 12 дней назад
Preferred for fence posts. He said never for a slab or to support anything, like a deck. Very different criteria.
@nickyj3571
@nickyj3571 3 месяца назад
Do u have a chain link or wood fence build video. Wanna try to do the work this spring. Had estimates over $6500 cant pay it now
@MarkSchuster-ym3iy
@MarkSchuster-ym3iy 16 часов назад
Omg, yes, dump the dry Crete down the hole then get a spoon to dig out just enough for the post. Ever see the tv series Futurama? The carachtef FRY that’s something he’d do. lol
@chefe2152
@chefe2152 2 месяца назад
Now which method is best for deck attached to house method?
@whitakermarisa
@whitakermarisa Месяц назад
So, i really want to go with the Rapid Post. I'm only building a t-post fence gate, not a porch, nothing that humans will walk on, just an open/close fence gate for mowers and my dog. I want to hold the t-posts in the ground with rapid post. Would that be an okay move? I do live in the south. All the way in Savannah, GA.
@breannegoodson4420
@breannegoodson4420 3 месяца назад
So dry pour for the win ! I’m saving this video 😮
@charlyrodzz
@charlyrodzz 3 месяца назад
Thats only if you live in the south.
@xaviermccloud4586
@xaviermccloud4586 3 месяца назад
​@@charlyrodzzWhat if you live in the Midwest? Also these videos are made in Canada lol.
@MrJoepeps
@MrJoepeps Месяц назад
@@xaviermccloud4586 yeah you can't use dry pour in Canada, lol that wont hold after 1 season.
@evantrimby6567
@evantrimby6567 12 дней назад
I'm curious if the dry pour would have cured more over a longer time from absorbing ground water. Do a test after a year to determine hardness.
@qmen5180
@qmen5180 4 месяца назад
if you have the opportunity, can you do a video on putting up a fence going up a hill. I have a short hill but enough that it may be a problem for dogs to jump the fence if they get the angle right. Also sight lines to get privacy. Another issue I have is I have an 8-foot fence, but I can see into my neighbor's backyard from my bedroom window. Which also means they can see into my bedroom. What are some elegant ways to increase privacy for both of us? It is in a location where the window is about 6 foot from the fence. Thanks for the videos.
@curtisbme
@curtisbme 4 месяца назад
I've found that when using the cement, you want to build a bit of a mound above the dirt level. Just pouring it flat, especially below the dirt level, means the water is going to pool at the base of the post. So you could have made it nice and deep with lots of concrete but 10-15 years it will have rotted out at the top of the concrete. Gotta have water running away from the post and no dirt on it.
@robertkudla6677
@robertkudla6677 4 месяца назад
Wouldn’t the value of the foam be it’s resistance to water and heat/cold cycle that would crack the cement?
@JB-kl7dv
@JB-kl7dv 2 месяца назад
what lowes did he buy his post foam from because in my area its $15 and can be bought in bulk even cheaper
@mrljvb
@mrljvb 4 месяца назад
I used the foam method for my mailbox post.. I would not use it for anything that would see lateral movement (fence posts in windy areas).. and nothing that is load bearing
@mattski1979
@mattski1979 3 месяца назад
You ever do diamond piers?
@borean5840
@borean5840 21 день назад
Mix the rapid post
@wrenchboostboi8994
@wrenchboostboi8994 4 месяца назад
Thats what an extra half bag poured under the post will get ya! Lol
@elementarypenguin9
@elementarypenguin9 4 месяца назад
Do you think the dry pour rapid post would hold up in Ontario climate? I was a bit confused by your comments. Used a slab might not work but as a post footing, do you think it will crack like that or probably not because it’s contained in a hole? Great video
@greentjmtl
@greentjmtl 4 месяца назад
Even if it cracks it's in a narrow 4 ft deep hole, it'll still stay in one piece and perform like before.
@TheBeginner22
@TheBeginner22 4 месяца назад
How much time before the wood in cement (or foam) starts rotting? I am wondering what is the best way for a post fence in order to stay plumb and not rotting for the longest period of time in northern Canada?
@georgeblakey7730
@georgeblakey7730 3 месяца назад
Use gravel instead - the water will drain away if the water table is lower than the post bottom.
@DB-ks6mp
@DB-ks6mp 4 месяца назад
Wonder if the pour before the post insert is what made the difference in the rapid post since it was the only one to penetrate to the bottom of the post 🤔
@tommy2u
@tommy2u 4 месяца назад
Depends upon the soil too. At a 4' depth the post should not move that much once set. The dirt will give under pressure creating space for post movement. The dry pour surprised me tho.
@JustinBilyj
@JustinBilyj 4 месяца назад
I tried the expansion foam because the previous posts set in concrete were rotted - sadly the foam was ineffective because to dig out the posts, you need to dig a wider hole to get everything out, this makes the foam mold like a top pattern which doesn't help keep the post level nor sturdy. Here's my recommendation to people. Buy the expansion foam, but ALSO use the concrete. Dip the posts in the foam mixture so that it SEALS the concrete from absorbing water over time, and then use the concrete to set the posts. This is a modern take on the Japanese Shou Sugi Ban technique.
@sgwsteve1665
@sgwsteve1665 4 месяца назад
That rapid post is amazing stuff, eh?
@darrellsaturnbigfoot
@darrellsaturnbigfoot 4 месяца назад
Can’t help but feel after a couple freeze thaw cycles the mixed concrete is still the best way to go.
@modwetpm
@modwetpm 4 месяца назад
You're supposed to agitate and tamper wet concrete to make sure it's all the way down and around the post.
@xaviermccloud4586
@xaviermccloud4586 3 месяца назад
Exactly. This is why the quick post cement mix broke apart so easily.
@MarbleGoblin
@MarbleGoblin 2 месяца назад
Love seeing the wind turbines in the back. I don't know why.
@chrislnflorida5192
@chrislnflorida5192 4 месяца назад
I dont know if u consider Rapid Post the same as a bag of Dry Sacrete. Put water in the hole, pour your bag or 2 of Sacrete, plunge eith a rod and let her go?
@lilolmecj
@lilolmecj 4 месяца назад
Regarding the foam…it two distinct advantages, extremely light weight, and not very messy, and pretty easy to use. You DO have to move fast. In a static row of fencing it would work great, but for a corner or gate post, it won’t have the durability of concrete. And it is way more expensive. It was $12 when I bought it, and I thought that was steep. We had 2 posts where we tried it, and after five years of regular use of the gate, it is showing signs of needing to be replaced.
@jesusc4384
@jesusc4384 4 месяца назад
I was quite surprised by that dry poured concrete, it would be interesting to see if a well poured somewhat sloppy regular concrete would have done better.
@ChristinesBackyardGarden
@ChristinesBackyardGarden 3 месяца назад
I think I developed a hernia watching you man handle those posts out of the ground. 😂😂
@AllStraysAreWelcome
@AllStraysAreWelcome 4 месяца назад
Could those posts have been pulled out of the ground as easily if the post holes had been flared at the bottom?
@hughiemacneil2014
@hughiemacneil2014 Месяц назад
I wonder what the GHG carbon intensity for each method. I would think the helical pile, but I am sure some knows the science between the production and shipping of concrete, foam, and steel???
@dragonrider9051
@dragonrider9051 4 месяца назад
4' deep? Is that your areas frost line or in general for a fence or deck post?
@BrandonBroadwater-ci3xq
@BrandonBroadwater-ci3xq 4 месяца назад
I think that is just deeper than the frost line where they are at. But I never actually see anyone go as deep as 4'. Unless those guys are 8' tall, those holes they dug are no bigger than 2.5' deep.
@dontask7898
@dontask7898 Месяц назад
There has to be an attachment you can use from a power tool for that helicoil post
@bman6502
@bman6502 29 дней назад
Pro tip, wrap the post at ground level before filling g hole.. post will always rot right at ground level, having wrap will add a few yrs to your post..
@jasonoliver7881
@jasonoliver7881 4 месяца назад
Rapid post for sure.
@AirJordan23DCH
@AirJordan23DCH 4 месяца назад
I'm in Chicago a fence guy around here uses crushed rock instead of concrete it drains better and post doesn't rot and reduces the chance of dislodging, I was wondering if wrapping the post in joist tape or something else would prevent rotting as well extra layer of security
@ThunderDivine
@ThunderDivine 4 месяца назад
It's oldschool, all electric post was setup that way with crushed rock, and tar paint. now you can still burn the ground part
@user-sm6lt9mf9t
@user-sm6lt9mf9t 4 месяца назад
Thanks for sharing this. For your friends in western Canada, what would be the equivalent of the dry pour concrete as we have different stuff (seems to all be quickcrete products)? Same like for drywall mud, what we have available the west is slightly different than in the east (for example, we can't get the brown mud, even at the drywall stores) The possible equivalents I can see are either the 'red bag' fast set stuff, or we also have a product called 'post haste' available which is supposed to be a fast setting 20 min concrete you can use for fence and deck posts. If you are around Thunder Bay you can grab a bag, or I might be able to send to you to test it.
@user-sm6lt9mf9t
@user-sm6lt9mf9t 4 месяца назад
Actually, after doing a bit more digging it looks like the red bag quickcrete might be the winner. Based on the Manufacturer's own specs it looks like the post haste may be overhyped, overpriced, and too fast-setting for questionable strength.
@YellowBunchofBananas
@YellowBunchofBananas 4 месяца назад
​@@user-sm6lt9mf9tI think they sell a quickrete fence n post. Do they have that out west?
@user-sm6lt9mf9t
@user-sm6lt9mf9t 4 месяца назад
@@YellowBunchofBananas It might be what they call Post Haste here. Haven't actually seen the fence n post yet.
@YellowBunchofBananas
@YellowBunchofBananas 4 месяца назад
@@user-sm6lt9mf9t Ah so some further research suggests Quikrete in Ontario is a different company than in the west where it looks to be made by Target Products. So even that's not the same stuff!
@koenigcochran
@koenigcochran 2 месяца назад
Did you put gravel at the bottom
@Forever.and.a.day.singing
@Forever.and.a.day.singing 3 месяца назад
Yer reckin the test
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