Tiger 800 XCA 2016 owner here, l tested the 900 GT Pro 2024 past weekend, 200km highway 200 twisty mountain roads.(Sadly no Rally Pro as a test vehicle in any Triumph dealer near me) My thoughts: 1. Stock exhaust is louder than expected, it wasn't that different than the Mivv l have on my 800. 2. TFT is not great takes too may clicks to do stuff just like you said, also turn signal is way too close to the directional button and have similar shape so l was signalling randomly way too many times. 3. My mirrors on 800 are useless between 5 and 6k rpm on the highway( could be due to knobby tires, bar raisers or upper crash bars because everyone praises how smooth the 800 is) no such vibrations at all on the 900 2024, but the first thing my passenger said "Oh this has more vibrations" go figure. 4. Stock pegs are a joke even on RP, they are almost half the size compared to 800 XCA. 5. Engine is on a different level, it's almost comparing apples to oranges. Still thinking if l should sell my bike and get a 24 but 18500 euros is a lot of money so probably will wait for end of summer to make a decision and see if they have any deals. Also my dealer told me there might be new colours coming up with 2025 models which shouldn't be that far away. Thank you for the detailed video
You are quite right to highlight your niggles but all these shortcomings are easily customizable. My '24 Gt Pro is simply the best bike, for me, I've ever owned. Try the Puig extra large side wind deflectors, put a hugger on, get over the odometer and moving warning light and just turn on the bike whilst putting your gloves on!
Wow, I just bought a GT-Pro just yesterday 8/21 here in NJ and I did think the total mileage only on start up or shutdown on the 2023 model was odd, but as you stated, not anymore on the 24. 🤷🏻♂️ Oh well, it’s one of or the most comfortable bike I ever ridden , and enough power for anything. Every option , and the lighted switchgear is a soft red glow that easily read at night. Fit and finish is amazing, it starts with a key, and so far, I’m happy 👍🇬🇧
Thank you for the well done review. I own an Aragon GT 2023 and have ridden 10k with it. For the locking there is a trick: after turning the engine off, push the key once once (do not keep it pushed), then twist the key to the left, slightly moving the handbar. Will lock easily. Regards and safe rides
Have a 24 GT Pro and agree that the engine heat is minimal with riding pants/jeans and my knees are right at the opening. On the windshield, consider adding a Puig spoiler to the top as it makes a big difference in airflow over the helmet. I like the added air on my shoulders here in the deep south of the US. I also added Pivot Pegs as I found the stock pegs too small for my feet. I do not fault the bike as these are ergo changes I have to make on all bikes given my 6'3" frame with long arms and legs.
Thanks for the review. I recently purchased the 2024 Tiger 900 GTPro, which I had fitted with the original Triumph top & lower crash bars. It was pointed out to me however that the lower crash bar is bolted to the engine & was warned that it could seriously damage the engine in a crash, instead of protecting it. Could you comment on this, please? Please keep making your videos, I like the thorough and calm manner of presentation best. Cheers!
Thanks. The idea of damaging the bike because of a design flaw doesn’t really worry me. Warranties are there for that. However, causing damage through the use of third-party add-ons is another matter entirely…
I have a 22 GT Pro, 6000 miles or so. I’m in Idaho where there’s way more dirt than pavement. I’m a bit like you where I limit myself to maintained forest roads. Just turned 70 with multiple joint replacements so my days of adrenaline are over. I’ve been jonesing for the 24 Rally. Put my bike on the block and had zero response except for 3 scammers. Trade in was going to be $9000 and that didn’t make sense to me. So new tires. From Dunlop Trailmax Missions to Bridgestone AX41s. The first gens are still awesome rides. Here in the intermountain west we maintain pretty high speeds. When overtaking, I’m up over 100 before I know what’s happening. Maybe lacking a bit of character, but I can live with that. God knows what might happen if I had a bike with more character!
Almost 70 myself. Mine came with AX41s and I had used them on my GS. Fantastic off road performance and surprisingly stable in the canyons. Regrettably, I burned through two rears in less than 3000 miles (I blame the quickshifter and lack of self control). Fantastic tire!!
I don’t believe that I have ever used the terms “forensic investigator” & “motorcycle reviewer/critic” in the same sentence-until now…another EXTREMELY thorough & thoughtful evaluation of this Tiger 900. You have a gift for painting a detailed & lively picture through your “wordsmithing”…I will certainly nominate you for the Norman Rockwell Award of “Wordology”. Well done(once again), Detective Rocketman❗️
I enjoyed this review tremendously, and learned a lot from it. The Honda TransAlp and the Triumph 900 Rally Pro are two of the bikes I have been considering for that “middle spot” in my bike stable. I currently have, and enjoy tremendously, a 2024 Triumph Scrambler 1200xe, a 2006 Kawasaki KLR650 (my favorite bike ever), and a 2021 Honda CRF300Rally. Happy Trails!
Rocketman, Love your review ! I've been lusting over the triumph twin engine sound, either from speed twin 1200, or maybe the 900, I have doubts I can use it as much as my tiger 900 gt pro, your review gives me pause. Here is a long opinion of my Tiger 900 Gt Pro... I own a 2021 Tiger 900 GT Pro, which now has 50,000 km on it. I've ridden it mostly without luggage, except for a few trips where I did carry some luggage, always solo. Before this, I owned a Suzuki V-Strom 650. Some comments: Key Lock: Engaging the key lock can be a pain. I find that pushing the key down while turning the handlebar to the left helps, but it requires coordination. Tank Bag: Reaching the key with a tank bag in place is frustrating. Handlebar Vibration: There is always some vibration at highway speeds, though the cruise control is a big help. Seat Comfort: The previous version of the seat can become uncomfortable after just a couple of hours, depending on the pants I'm wearing. With heavier riding pants, it's more bearable. Tachometer Graphics: The tachometer graphics are difficult to read, and it is very slow to start up. Seat Reattachment: Reattaching the seat requires patience and practice to get it right. Sidewinds: My GT is very stable in side winds. While I can feel my head being pushed sideways, the bike remains stable, which is 1000% better than the V-Strom. Engine Heat: I bought deflectors from AliExpress, which do a decent job. I only feel the heat at slow speeds. Performance: With its 95 hp, the GT can keep up with the larger 1250 GS that most of my riding buddies own, even on spirited highway rides. Height and Stability: The GT's height suits me well, allowing me to prevent drops at low speeds even if I make a mistake. The V-Strom was much less forgiving and ended up on the ground many times. Rear Shock Protection: I added a piece of rubber behind the rear shock to prevent debris from being thrown up by the rear wheel. Fork Service: I recently had the forks serviced, and now the ride is very nice and stable on twisty roads. Future Plans: I'm considering reflashing the ECU to remove the 80% max throttle limit at high RPMs, which will likely make me keep the bike a bit longer.
I've absolutely zero interest in this bike, yet i watched your video, as i always do, all the way through. Your breakdown on the pluses and minuses were fascinating and typical of your posts, that's why i like them so much.
i had a gen 1 rallye pro in same colour as yours ..it was a def gateway bike ..opening my eyes to 1 bike to do it all . fell in love with it immediately..however it was short lived ..took it on a good run touring round the lake district ..i got back after 5 days and i couldnt even ride it because of the pain in my hand from the vibes ..installed bar ends and grip puppies and took it up again a couple of weeks later ..even worse..because of the numb hands i was able to ride less and less ..i did 3.5k miles in 3 months and it had to go as it was unrideable for me ..sadly for Triumph i will not go back , was thinking of the 1200 but same engine config ..so test rode a V4S and a GS ..im firmly in the BMW camp now ..but i still look at the Triumph with a broken heart thinking what could have been
Seems like seats are a pain on many models. The Transalp is also very difficult to locate back into the correct postion as I'm sure you remember. However, at least it looks right once located.
Awesome video! Those are some niggles. My GS has those gaps on the seat as well. And it really pisses me off. I may go after market seat just to get that fixed. The odometer issue is worrisome. I don't know what their logic is here. There are many positives however. Beautiful bike for sure. Best!
I was ready to buy this bike until I found out I would have to take it back to the dealership to turn off the Service Light...I could overlook the quirks (thanks for pointing them out) if I wasn't forced to drive an hour to the dealership just to turn off a Service Light.
Like your previous video on why you gave your ST 1200 for T900RP, I'm still with you.. The doubt at 17:05 on whether the engrs tweaked the engine, only way to find out is whether you feel that much vibration on your foot pegs and the inner side of the leg hugging the tank.. if yes then the tweak is a ???.. if the vibrations are minimum then they did their magic.. Happy miles From 🇮🇳 India
That's comprehensive. Too much for me, as a 100kph traveller, but that doesn't mean i can't appreciate it for what it is. Amazing machines we can buy today. Rock on Triumph. Ride safe 👍
@teneretraveller8980 Strange you should mention that...I was watching a RU-vidr on tour in Ireland a few days ago he was riding a Triumph Tiger 1250 ...... when I converted his kph to mph....he was riding the same speed as I would probably be doing on my 44 bhp Honda...😯
@@paullee6663Excellent point , used to own a Honda CRF 300 rally a bike I miss , now I have a transalp 750 with 92 HP, but on back roads with a 21 inch wheel , don’t go much faster than the 300 with a 21 inch front wheel . The difference is the 300 was a capable off road bike even with soft stock suspension, the transalp is so unbalanced off road at low speeds .
@@orionswitness I was in Spain in 2018 and a guy was admiring my bike 😊 It's black and old...so it kind of does that...even when it's covered in crud after a heavy downpour 🙁 He said 'Is that your Honda? Nice bike! I replied 'Not as nice as your's' (He had a gorgeous Tuono) He replied, 'You know what, you probably came up that gorge just as quick as me ''(gorge road into Potes)
Whenever I tell my wife I’m happy with my bikes and not changing them she just rolls her eyes 👀 good review thanks . I hope to upgrade my 2023 model to the latest one this year .
Hi RocketMan, did you get a chance to put more miles into the bike? Any more revelations? I am at 10k with my voge900 and it already surprised me 3 times with suddenly limiting RPM to 4k. After restart bike runs well again. I am a lil p1ssed, looking for the next bike in case this won't get resolved.
That’s a bit worrying. No problems at all with the Tiger (touch wood…), other than the minor irritations I mention in this video and the 5 Love & Hate I posted a couple of weeks ago😊
Thanks for you another honest review. As a long time viewer and have to say your opinions resonated a lot with my experiences (as ex-owner of cb500x :) ). I decided to go with gt-pro since road is my home in 99 percent of cases and if any gravel will appear, gt will handle it as well (with proper tires fitted). One question for you - how you manged to fit those SW pro side carries on this 24 model? Do you have SW SKU Number? (there are in total 3 different variants for Tiger 900, sku number ending 000, 001 and 002) SW motech official offer of accessories for latest model is still rather sparse and upon contacting them via mail, their response is "we have motorbike in our warehouse and do test fittings, stay tuned"... I'm "tuned" for 3 weeks now and nothing happened :D
Referencing your disappointment in the quality of the steering lock, ignition column, TFT: I've had quite a few motorcycles over the years and I've found that paying a lot of money for advanced features always leads to disappointment. Naturally, my expectations are higher when I pay a high price , but the bike never seems to meet the expectation that I have. The innovative features are never as useful as they are claimed to be (or I don't use them at all) or i find that corners are cut on the basics. So I dialed back from an expensive Euro bike that was in the top dollar range (R1200GS Rallye) and moved more into other bikes with significantly more value (Africa Twin Adventure Sports, Versys 1000) and I find that the expectations and the dollar price paid line up much better. Motorcycles are small and compact, generally, and manufacturers these days seem to be struggling to "innovate", and I feel that the consumer is left with high diminishing returns on premium bikes beyond a similar, more value-based alternative. I don't need to be the guy who is suckered into higher dollars for little return. Rocketman, I get the feeling that the premium of the 900 over your Transalp was worth it to you, but,...was it really? I'm wondering if the Suzuki Vstrom 800, Tracer 9GT, or Standard Africa Twin would have been better, less costly and less disappointing choices.
The Tiger is definitely a much nicer bike to ride than the Transalp, but no, I’m not sure it’s €7,000 better. I totally get your point about cheap, basic bikes. Thanks for your input👍😊
Thanks. There's an almost indescribable (or lengthy description) "essence factor " with motorcycling that is distinct, and can't or shouldn't be disturbed. I think innovation sometimes gets in the way of it. Thank you for all of your analytical and thoughtful reviews.
I contacted SW Motech today and apparently they do not have a tank ring for the Rally Pro 24 model! Are you using the '23 ring and if so any problems with fitment? Thank you.
I am still very pleased with mine after 5000 km. Triumph recomends dumping the preload on the rear shock when going offroad. This will increase the rake a bit. And it does make it more stable on soft surfaces. Although I usualy keep the preeload the same. It is stable enough for my level of offroading.
The heated knees in the winter is lovely! For some reason only my left leg gets the heating it certainly encourages a lot of one handed riding even with heated grips. Best bike in the world, eats the GS for breakfast!
I was so close to handing over my money for a 2024 Tiger GT model earlier this year, but as someone in IT as soon as I saw some the reviews highlighting the software stutters / slow menu transitions etc I was out immediately. Sorry Triumph, unacceptable on a premium motorcycle. I went for the 2024 Suzuki S1000GX
@@mrofnocnon I don't see them overhauling the operating system on a released bike, they would rather introduce better hardware/software with a newer year model as a selling feature, remember existing customers are exactly that, they have paid, now on to the next one's!
How are you finding the Suzuki? I own the 2023 model and dime 6k miles on 6 months and love the bike. It does everything so well and it's extremely practical and comfortable.
Really miss one comment, downsite: the bluetooth. I really can't get the connection stable between iPhone, GT pro and Sena. I understand it is a software problem where Triumph is still working on. But it is a bummer not to get my nav on my ears for the € 18.500,-.
Thanks for a great video! I'll be visiting Portugal this September, riding from Belgium on a Husqvarna LR 701 enduro, doing a bit of easy gravel tracks along the way. Any suggestions on which parts of Portugal I should really visit or avoid? Thank you 😊 ❤
For some reason - probably just market forces (euphemism for charging what they think they can get away with) - Triumph servicing costs in the UK are very high. Quite reasonable in Portugal, no more expensive than other marques.
Hi I was just wondering what kind of bracket you’ve used to attach your phone it looks a good position to be in as I’m looking to do the same would love to see . Cheers simon
Really appreciate your videos and reviews. Quick question, since you have the Tiger 900 and tried the Tiger 660: do you think the Tiger 850 is much better than the Tiger 660? (considering that the tiger 850 is the same platform and engine as the 900, but more road focused wheels and tyres and without cruise control, heated grips, handguards, smaller display...etc.). My question is more regarding of comfort (rider and pillion), wind protection, engine, dynamics, riding "satisfaction". Not planning to do offroad, just commute and weekend 2/3 day travel.
Thank you for the great video 👍 I’m currently on the market for my next bike, and I try to decide between 2024 Tiger 900 Rally Pro vs 2024 Africa Twin Adventure Sport with 19” front wheel. I’m looking for mostly adventure road bike, maybe occasionally gravel or fire roads but nothing extreme. I know that Tiger GT Pro will be better choice but I like the look of Rally Pro. What would you choose or advice? Tiger RP is about €2300 cheaper than Honda, has slightly more power, but on the other side ATAS has more torque and has semi active suspension. Any advice please???😢
Well, I’m a Honda and Triumph fanboy, but I discounted the Africa Twin quite early in my research: it’s a very big motorcycle, top heavy, feels much less sporty than the Tiger and has terrible switchgear and dash. The Tiger was a clear winner for me, despite the niggles😊
I regularly have this discussion with my shorter friends: it's only good to be tall when it's good to be tall. Putting things away in tall cupboards, riding big motorcycles... On other occasions, it's a pain.. literally: worktops are too low, planes and cars are cramped, shoes take up half the suitcase... :)
Trocar de mota ás vezes nem tem a ver com a mota que se tem mas com a ideia que a nova é melhor ou esta ou aquela marca é o "must", bom, todas são boas e inacabadas e claro a melhor é a que esta na garagem portanto acho que o forever será para esquecer. Mas, como sempre, boa apreciação há marca e ao modelo que realmente não aprecio, mas, "assisto" para conhecimento.
Good choice then ! Well Done, it is beautifull. But, with the youtube thing, Im sure "keeper" is not that many years. I would love to see you in a big powerfull 1290 SAS. But they are ugly and you do like your bikes pretty. Thank you for the videos ! Boa semana
Sounds like the F900GS would have suited you better, keyless, brilliant handling, similar hp, excellent tft. I can't remember have you ridden it? Great review BTW.
If in dought just buy a "HONDA" THE New Africa twin with semi electronic rear suspension reliability does everything well part ex the triumph go get one
The riding experience get a few of your buddies 1000's of KM's around Europe make it about the trip / Holiday the Honda will do everything you ask of it
Interesting. Almost a marriage made in heaven then for this one? A keeper you say ............... but how long? ;@) I like the look of your bike, as you say one of the prettier middle weight ADV bikes, but it would be too tall and top heavy for me being a shortie at 5'7" and 29" inside leg. I test rode aTiger 900 GT Pro back in 2022. 1) The vibes through the bars and foot pegs were too much for me. 2) It felt top heavy and likely that at some point I'd drop it. 3) The cross plain triple engine felt very bland compared to Triumph's revered conventional characterful and smooth easy revving triple engines in their Street and Speed Triple bikes. Didn't like it. As for the long list of other niggles you mention, they would do my head in, especially the crazy lack of an easily visible odometer, lack of a rear hugger, poorly positioned key, heat from the engine, etc. Why can can't bike manufacturers just give us well thought out bikes without all these annoyances and hassles? Basic features missing or poorly thought out. It's not as if new bikes are cheap either. Just poor imho. I quite like the look of the Yamaha Tracer 9 GT+ now it has a TFT screen. Haven't ridden it so it could be really good or a big disappointment. Anyway enjoy your bike. How long do you think before your start getting itchy feet and looking at a replacement? Thanks for your warts and all review, telling it, as it is. ATB.
Thanks for your input and glad you enjoy my videos. The facelifted Tiger’s engine is much nicer than the previous generation’s, although the vibes in the bars (not the pegs) are still there. The Tracer has a fabulous engine, but fit and finish is poor and the looks aren’t to my taste. Ride safe😊
Hi RocketMan, I like your videos. I’m a Portuguese guy living in Holland and looking at the clear blue skies in your videos is always heart warming :) I’m interested to know, how you ended up living in Portugal, what you do for a living and how do you find living in Portugal is, after all the while you’ve been there. Sorry if my question is too out of scope. You are free to ignore it, of course. Btw, you think Portugal is windy? You should try Holland 😅 My motorbike (bmw k1300r) weighing 250kg, parked on the side stand, was flipped over by the wind here 😮 I bought it second hand, in Portugal. Now after 9 years with it, I’m looking for a nice “next chapter” bike. Cheers. Keep up the nice videos!
I have a '24 900RP bought in February, and have done about 6500km. To my great shock and surprise, last Sunday a rear spoke broke and became entangled in the rear brake disk and calliper. A fellow rider did some web searches and has come across a few anecdotal mentions of the issue of rear, sprocket side spokes breaking on the 900RP. I do NOT ride it like an MX or hard enduro bike! No rim deformation. I was wondering @Rocketman if you were aware of the issue and had done some research. I hope this doesn't happen to you.
Thanks for sharing that, Duncan. It hasn’t happened to me (yet!), but I know it can be an issue with spoked wheels in general. I was watching a Big Rock Moto video just the other day where he was saying how much he dislikes spokes for that very reason. Did your dealer repair the damage under warranty?
Hi, Is it approx. 50-60% more expensive than the transalp in Portugal? Does it translate to 50-60% more bike? Also, how do you find Triumph's servicing cost vs Honda's? From what I recall, transalps in the UK also have exposed rear shocks. Grit is definitely not a great sight on a demo bike.
Interesting thought on Tiger 1200. I concluded similar after doing test rides of both Tigers 900, Vstrom 1050 DE, Africa Twin to replace my Tuareg 660. I was looking for more power, but turned out more power and better brakes are not enough to justify couple thousand euros price increase over Tuareg. Except power and brakes, it doesn't miss anything those bikes collectively have.
Lack of a rear shock spray guard , which Triumph could have provided with a 50c piece of plastic from the factory ? Pyramid plastics seems to have not received the memo !! $52.00 to buy that and another $33.00 to post !! (just sayin).
I find the mounting of the seat (in the low position) on my '24 Tiger 900 Rally Pro not that solid; if I sit on the bike and "walk" it backwards with my legs I feel some movement of the seat and hear some crunching noises. Not a dealbreaker but not as solid as the seat of my R1250RT.
Two things have stopped me from wanting to buy the beautiful Triumph Tiger series: 1.) Too low of gear ratio, and no way to change the final drive to reduce engine RPM's for 75mph cruising. 2.) The new T-Plane crankshaft, which no longer provides the same triple sound and smoothness. But, the Triumph Tiger bikes are some of the best looking motorcycles in the world, and are a masterpiece of engineering in their own right. I might still consider getting one anyway!
On the previous generation we can default the mileage on the panel by activating "service interval" on the "screen options". It'll show up by swiping on the TPMS screen. It might be the same on the 2024 model. Unfortunately the 2024 model i tested made more heat to the knees than my RP2021 does. Main reason why didn't bought it.
Great review. Watching from here in Australia, so interested in the heat from the radiator. I'm not really interested in the off-road side, so the GT Pro is on my radar. Currently on a BMW R1200RS but looking for that bit more leg room as I get older. I am also disappointed when manufacturers skimp on a few cents during manufacturing in order to make a significantly better offering on the finished product. Makes no sense to me. Love your work.
In my experience bark busters can cause vibes due to not mimicking stock bar end weights, might be worth trying the added weight accessories to further reduce vibrations
Nice review, there's always something. I was prepared to be unhappy with my new Transalp suspension, but in the end its perfectly good enough for me. My niggle at the moment is that since the 500klm mark my speedo lit up with a bright orange bar saying that the service is due in another 500 klm. Then this 500klm becomes, 400, 300, 200 100. without any obvious way to see exactly how many klms you have actually done. Right now all I know is that I've done somewhere between 900 and 1000 klms. Seems like a daft idea to me since my brain is capable of recognizing exactly how close I am to the 1000 klm point at any time if the klms were simply displayed on the speedo.
As you say, there's always something. I agree about the Transalp's suspension, never had a problem with it and actually enjoyed the super plush feel. Thanks for your input :)
Interesting as always. Thanks! i have the 2024 GT Pro and share some of the frustrations - the main one being the screen. I'm 5ft 10", around 178cm I think, and the screen makes my ears very uncomfortable. It's almost as if the screen is throwing turbulent air straight at the lower sides of the helmet. I had a couple of reasonably brief test rides before buying the bike where it didn't seem "too bad" but after a couple of hours it becomes deeply unpleasant. So I'm on the lookout for a replacement one. If I can't address the issue then I'll have to sell the bike - it's that unpleasant. It's a shame as I love more or less everything else about the thing. BTW, you appear to have connected your phone to the Tiger so you maybe able to get the odomoter reading on the Triumph app. Roll on Triumph catching up and having Car Play/Auto instead of their clunky connectivity is all I can say on the dash - although it's a lot better than nothing.
At 9:30 you mentioned it feels twitchy off road. You assert that it’s not a big deal for you but the issue it’s there nevertheless. That counts as bad off road performance and a deal breaker for me.
Nice review...Touched most issues I would nag about. I have around ~600km right now on my Rally Pro. One thing I would say you missed (or perhaps I am not a good enough/used enough driver) is the anti-stall making taking-off and low speed maneuvers to be a hassle. I will try reconfiguring the clutch moving the friction zone closer to my hand and see how things go.
Thank you for this. I currently have a CB500X which will tell you a lot about the amount of dirt I do - not much. I'm really looking for something bigger with cruise control for longer rides. Have always loved these bikes and have been tossing up between the Rally and the GT. This is making me lean more to the Rally if for no other reason than that I really do love the look of the green and white. Then, of course, there's always the Husky 901......
The Tiger would be a very nice step up from the CB500X. If you're tall enough, then absolutely go for the Rally. Handling is just as good as the GT 99% of the time, it looks better and the suspension is more comfortable.
I've got a 2022 Tiger Sport 850, so some of your niggles I can relate to. First thing I did was put an MRA screen on it, which is slightly lower but wider than the stock one. It has improved things slightly, but still not perfect. You can get deflectors to fit into the fairing radiator ducts, to deflect the hot air away from your knees. I've not tried them yet, but I'll see how I feel after it gets a bit hotter here in the coming weeks. I do enjoy the bike, but the vibrations are a bit annoying also. I'm not sure what I can do about that. Anyway, great review as always. 👍
I was never a fan of keyless bikes, and a buddies KTM proved to me why. We were 4 hours from home and the proximity key software picked up a glitch leaving the bike dead. Fortunately, we were not 4 hours deep in the bush like were the previous day but in a parking lot. After shipping the bike home the issue was resolved at the dealer with a simple software reflash. A major inconvenience from a "solution" that had no problem.
Came very close to replacing my Transalp with a new 900 GT Pro, ultimately ended up going with a 2024 Africa Twin Adventure Sports, came down to the looks/ bigger gas tank.
Interesting review, I own a ‘22 1200 GT Pro and you’re right they’re pigs when you have to pull ‘em up onto the centre stand or manoeuvre them around in tight spaces. The spotlight on warning light travelling around the dash I found quite funny (guess the location depending on what’s being used) which gets even more complicated when the electronic suspension lowering option is used lol. The dash could be better, but it’s a bit of a non issue once you’ve become accustomed to it, and Triumph did in their wisdom fit rear shock mud protection on the bigger bike. I changed the screen (same issue a bit narrow) to a WRS unit, and changed the screen winglets for Puig units, the seat units aren’t the best and appear to be identical in their fit if not shape (the updated 24 1200 has a seat closer in shape to yours), the rubber bungs that locate into the bike have worn on mine which allows the seat to rock to and fro - warranty will take care of that. The 1200 also suffers from clutch issues, dash issues (failures), although mine has been ok on both counts so far.
Yes, the negatives I highlighted are far outweighed by the plus points. The wandering warning lights, for example, aren’t that bad, it’s just silly and unnecessary. Thanks for your input👍😊
A really interesting an honest review of your experience with the bike to date - I can see how you've ended up with it. I test rode the first 900 Tiger GT Pro back in '21 and rode the revised version about a month ago. Overall it felt like a better bike but I still struggle a little to get my head around the engine which doesn't offer the 'thump' of a twin and isn't as smooth as a traditional Triple (I currently own a 1200GS and a Street Triple). The dash layout is much better than it was though and it seemed to vibrate less than it did when first released, I only wish they would revert to a conventional 120 degree crank as per the Street Triple and 660 engines as I feel that, for me at least, it would make sense. Thanks for sharing your thoughts👍
I’ve owned a 900GT for three years and really like it…but really desiring a companion Triumph Twin. They are pretty to look at, and there’s just something special about a simple bike…at least for us nostalgic old guys.
Be careful if fitting a Givi tank bag ring. The plastic housing at the front of the tank prevents the tank bag from full locking onto the ring and the bag can pop off unexpectedly. I solved this by printing a 3mm spacer to raise the ring and allow the bag to lock into place securely. My concern now is that the sharp corners of the gap in the ring, which has to be there to allow the filler cap to open, sit well above the tank and threaten my gonads in the event of a frontal collision. I’ve ground the edge off them but you can’t remove much without compromising the locking circumference.
So changing the suspension to somewhere in the recommended off road suspension settings make the bike QUITE a bit more agreeable off road. I’ve been running the “on-road comfort” suspension settings and it’s been great in everything I’m capable of throwing at it. Great video!
I only rode the first-gen Tiger 900 and I was really underwhelmed. Need to try this new one but it seems to me that despite all the tech improvements, Triumph's popularity comes from huge investments in marketing.
Hi had a test ride on 900 gt pro loved the look of the bike pros engine and gearbox and brakes brilliant. Cons awful wind protection bad handling not wanting to turn in and heated grips useless. Got back on my 950 multistrada heated grips nice and hot and was shocked at the difference in handling the ducati is miles better but the bars on the multistrada are definitely wider could that be what makes it quicker steering 🤔
I have the 24 rally pro, 5000km I dunno why, but I just don't love it. I hate the seat, the rest I dunno it's good I just don't gel with it and am debating on trading it in after only 2 months
Im in the market for a T900 rally pro. Gotta test ride it soon, but is the windshield that bad (you are quite taller then me, im only 180cm)? im planning on doing slight offroading but mostly road. I just prefer the looks of the rally pro over the gt pro. Other competitors are tracer 9gt+ but that is pure touring, its so hard to decide! Great detailed review, keep up the good work!
Nice review! I remember riding street tripe, it was hot! My 2002 Hornet is also boiling me, the underseat exhaust might be some kind of contraception. Funny: the NC which I ride in colder season stays much cooler :D Lets see how long the Tiger it is a keeper ;)
I just made a comment in Portuguese, but then I realized that im not sure if you do speak portuguese (even worst, Brazilian portuguese), but i know that your wife is Brazilian, so u can ask her help if needed hehe Eu não sei porque eu gosto tanto dos seus vídeos, eu consigo pensar em vários outros "RU-vidrs" que produzem vídeos mais """profissionais""" que você, que possuem um conhecimento técnico muito maior do que o seu. Mas quando eu procuro algo sobre uma moto e tem um vídeo seu, sempre é o primeiro ou segundo que eu vejo, e normalmente, o que eu mais gosto... Talvez seja pela simplicidade com que você faz o vídeo, só tentando explicar a sua opinião pessoal sobre a moto, sem a ambição de convencer ninguém... Seus vídeos parecem mais com as conversas que tenho com amigos motociclistas do que com um review de um ""RU-vidr profissional"""". De qualquer maneira, parabéns pelo trabalho! (U can reply in English if u prefer, just made the comment in portuguese to change the things up a little bit)
Nicely commented. When I had the F750GS, which I considered very comfortable and "stately" for riding, one thing that I didn't find pleasant was the sound of the engine when standing next to the idling bike - it was loud, too much for my sensitive hearing. How is your Tiger in this regard? I know what your next bike will be (in not even six months) - a Vespa 300 GTS 🙂
Haha, I already have a Honda ADV350, so why not. I had a BMW F900XR a few years ago and that made a terrible racket on start-up. The Tiger is much nicer in that respect😊
Not sure what the prices are like in Europe, but her in Australia the tiger 1200 is only about 2500-3000 euro more than the tiger 900. I still think the tiger 900 rally is one of the better looking adv bikes on the market.
You mention that you use the odometer to see where you are in the break in period and getting to see the odometer is onerous, While in the break in period if you pay attention to the RPM tachometer it actually adjusts the RPM range it wants you to stay in during the different break in areas (RPM ranges at different mileages) the needle sweeps and the tack turns red at the point where it wants you to stay under. As you complete the mileages required the tach raises the redline. The bike will certainly allow the higher revs so you have to be careful.
That's quite true, the rev counter does adjust, but I still need the odometer to know how many miles I've got to go before the next rev band becomes available ;)
I think it all in all the tigers mostly a road bike. Nobody’s gonna take that out and beat it up off-road. It doesn’t have the right geometry anyway. So I think they sell a lot more if they weren’t so overpriced there’s a lot of other options way better they are more focused.
Great review. I have the previous generation 900 GT Pro. Yes, I agree with you about a rear hugger, even if it was an option. The only time a found issue with the radiator heat is when its above 35 deg C here in Australia. I fitted larger upper deflectors to mine from Puig, the fixed wings either side of the windscreen. They make a difference at higher speeds. Also, I fitted Road 6 tyres , they made a huge difference to the handling especially in the wet. I have used them on light off road situation and are Ok.
Thanks for the info about the Puig deflectors. I'll take a look but fear they may not be compatible with my Barkbuster handguards (which are made in Australia - shout out!). I will probably go for some road tyres when it comes time to swap, although I never ride in the wet. Thanks for your input :)
Hi. Great vid. I have the 1200. Hey I notice a little bag attached to the right side of your tft. Would you be able to tell me where you got this? Thanks.
Thanks. It’s from Decathlon. Designed for bicycles, under the saddle. I jam it in the space between the deflector and the TFT to hold my motorway toll badge😊
Thanks for another great detailed review , I’m in the market for a new bike and thinking the 900 Rally Pro , I’ve got a test organised but I wanted to ask your view on the seat height , im 5 ft 11 with a 32 inch inside leg , do you think it would be a good fit ? Thxs
Always enjoy your reviews and comments. I own a 21 RP. Bought used in October 22 with only 1600 miles. Due to some health issues I was not able to ride it as I had my BMWs over the past 15 years, but I was in love from the start. I just returned from my first multi-day trip on it...a series of 200-250 mile days in Northern California coastal mountain regions with a mix of road conditions from high speed twisties to rough two-track. It was phenomenal. Currently running Missions, but with the AX41s i came with it was fantastic off road. Three things I have done that significantly improved ergonomics for ME (YMMV): 1. SW-Motech Ion pegs (about an inch lower than stock at their lowest settings). I'm 6' with 33, can flat-foot with the seat in highest position and rear preload adjusted to lower the bike. The pegs open the rider triangle up and reduced the knee bend. 2. Replaced the Rally handlebars with a set from a GT. Same width and height, but slightly more pull back angle matching that of my GS and GSA, much better wrist angle for me. 3. Givi Sport Tour screen for GT (D6415S). HUGE improvement over stock. Will not fit if using Rally bars. With my GT bars, DoubleTake mirrors, and Barkbusters, it still clears in all screen and handlebar angles (I rotate my bars up when I know I will be riding more than a few miles off road) Edit: I'm good for only about 100 miles on the seat. I may eventually commit to a custom seat (as on my BMWs) but for now a real sheepskin fleece suits me well enough for a long day on the saddle. Most of the buzzing in my bike was cured by replacing the OEM upper and lower protection bars with a set from Akurat.
Try leaving the bike in sports mode to get rid of the vibrations through the handlebars. I left my tiger 900 in sports mode permanently for that reason
My local dealer resets the service due screen at 5k kilometers, when the manual clearly says 10k. I see that you had a service at 1k and the next is at 10k. I think something is fishy here.