Q) Central Portugal seems to be a bit of hot spot of similar eco/homesteading projects on RU-vid; what about getting together with collaborations and skill swaps?
Do you still want to update the project camp academy website regularly? You never mentioned it in your videos. I thought documenting your work for others was a big part of the idea of the complete project. Plus: the winter is now the perfect time to write documentations and tutorials when you can't work much on the land.
Hi crushed roof tiles make excellent pathway gravel just put them in a concrete mixer with a hammer head or some thing heavy, the longer you leave running the smaller the size of the gravel.
Yes, there was a TV programme in the UK a couple of years ago where a chap was living in (IIRC) France and used smashed clay tiles for his paths around the property. It was a cheap and easy way to get a permeable but hard wearing path surface, which meant he could go from his house to his greenhouse without getting covered in mud on wet days.
@Rolland Blom I don't make the laws, only warning about it. I know a situation where the owner of the land was fined cause he utilized ruble to repair a local access road, judge understood that he was trying to help and reduced the fine still he paid some of it. The law exists, cause many decide to dump the ruble illegally.
Check the roof angle on your project. It might not be steep enough for tiles. Tile roofs require steeper angles than corrugated metal sheets or shingles
Agreed. I built a very similar structure for a car once and had enough tiles left over from the roof of the house to cover it. I had to use plastic sheets as underlay because some of the water didn't slide down fast enough towards the gutter but down between the tiles. Also, the vertical and horizontal beams need to be joined together with a piece of beam as a triangle, just as you draw the gallows in the game 'hangman', to avoid the whole structure swinging, especially under the weight of the tiles.
Pretty sure all those broken tiles can be reused somehow! Also those smaller trees can be used to construct stuff using 'strength in numbers' principal. 👍 😎
Just an idea, buy the wood for the posts and the rest with wattle and daub? Seems to me you have more than enough small trees. Saves up on lumber spendings and helps clean the land of the mimosa trees.
You can use the old broken roof tiles as grog to make pottery, it's crushed into a powder and then added to soft clay to firm it up to be thrown into new vessels.
The Mimosa trees are just the right diameter to weave together to make a matrix on which you can put adobe (your mid/sand mixture). You can also build scaffolding from the larger saplings (3-4 inches).
man, you do not need bigger trees) you may cut what you have, dry it for a season - in the bark and then build kind of saman fachverk with your friends. People lived in such houses in my country - and we have sometimes -30C
Yeah they seems to have an unhealthy obession with sheet wood lumber and screws. Just poles and fibre to tie it toghether make excellent building mateirals
those buildings in stone are of a specific type of construction in portugal with the name '' propianho '' (pronunciation and writing may vary from region to region) which really just means that the walls are built with trimmed stoned at least on tow of its faces and stacked together until the wall is formed. It's a very old and secure way of building that lasts hundreds of years. It is also very praised and valued among Portuguese people and it also increases the value of the house a bit. Normaly it's a very expensive way of building so be prepared to take that into account when deciding, and also the ones that know how to build well that way are becoming very scarce and they cost also more money to hire.
Have you thought about filming exploration videos of going around the nearby villages to source building materials or "waste" materials that can be used or repurposed by project kamp? (scrap yards, pallets, food waste, construction waste, etc.)
Q: I would love to know the name and location of the Granite shop on the road and also the lumber/wood yard please? (have friends in Portugal who will soon be renovating their property and they'd love to know where to access these 2 businesses - also good to promote local companies in your videos please!)
Q - Do you guys plan on keeping the "Precious Plastic" mission (recicle, reuse plastic) ? ...right now, Project Kamp seems so far away from urban plastic .. seems weird to "import" plastic into the country side.
Look into prehistoric building techniques to find interesting ways to use those small trees for buildings. One technique that's very interesting is burning the end of the wood before putting it into the ground it keep it from burning.
Given the fire issues, you can get away with wood in buildings provided you separate it from the outside with a non combustible (preferably insulating) layer, tiles are great, the problem is if the ends of the roof beams are exposed, the ends catch fire and take the fire along the beams which then fail and the roof collapses, keep a fire break around the house and don't have any exposed timber on the outside and it will survive all but the worst fires, if you get a firestorm though all bets are off
Cool work, re-using is everything. You could even use the roof of the oven-shed as water-collector. The broken tiles are still good for repairing or filling up - or you can grind them and use it to mix it with sand for a water-filter (the more you will use water as in the shower, the kitchen and maybe elsewhere, the more you might consider to filter it via a pond-sand-crushedTile filter...
10:40 crushed roof tiles make good ballast material for walkways drive ways and for putting udner stuff that needs to hold weight. Especially clay roof tiles. Cement ones are worse for that, but yours look like clay (the reason I mention cement ones is that's what my family's summerhouse has and I hate cement tiles).
Q&A question: With the amount of different ground levels in the land, Are you considering building a Pumped Hydroelectric storage facility? as a big battery
12:03 This was mostly a structurally solid roof. You can see some issues at one end where someone has clearly made a bit of a dirty hack, maybe to protect the part of the roof in good condition. There is obviously stuff that needed replacing but this was a repairable bit of roof. When something terrible happens like a fire or damage etc, it's tempting to write something off and buy or build a new one but sometimes with a bit of thought and imagination repairs can be made. I think someone made a bit of a hack to this roof to try and protect the bit of the roof that was good so more work could be done later. It's a surprisingly well built structure in great condition compared to some of the ruins you see in Portugal. Look at those solid tree like supports. They appear to be in very good condition. It appears like there is minimal fire damage to the building too although it's hard to get a good look from he videos so far. What are you going to do about this building next?
Suggestion: instead of hiring labor, invest in stairs and scaffolding. Will come in handy for many projects to come. And could safe some more tiles. Love what you are doing. Although you can't live in a pizza oven, it sure is a magnet for people to come and visit you. Good start for practising building skills
Scaffolding was used by the Romans to build an empire, the Egyptians to build their cities & monuments... it's a game changer, and it's so easy to store when not being used.
Hello Project Kamp, I like your videos!!! Since it is almost winter you guys should make a sauna and a hot tub that are wood powered and make it so that they both work from 1 wood furnace. I love the videos please keep making more. Best-Nikita
Hey, those are Lusa Atlas tiles, im using the same on my build, but new :) Ow man i love to be making my own wood beams like that, that saw is amazing :)
Hmm, kind of logical that since the roof held up the weight of those roof tiles for quite a while and hasn't collapsed, it's unlikely that it's just going to collapse the moment you take them off lol.
Q - Permits are weird in Portugal, and even though in the country side, they don't really regulate that much, have you guys looked into constructions permits? what can you build in that land? can you expand? ... keep it up, i'm loving your progress .. cool to see people reviving our Portugal ;)
Quite weird indeed... When I was asking for advice on choosing between wood, aluminum or PVC for the new windows, I was warned by an architect that only with the consent of the city council I can proceed to change the colour of the street-facing walls of a decaying house, as well as its window and door frames... To replace the roof structure from wood to light steel, an architectural project is needed... Meanwhile, my neighbors keep building unlicensed additions to their homes, in plain sight, without consequences! This in the outskirts of a small town in Ribatejo.
@@sergiovieira1053 I don't know the details of your case, of course .. but there is something to be said about maintaining the urban legacy of our rustic towns, but i can understand your frustration .. i would feel the same way.
@@m000Theevilcow I actually went to city council and wrote a formal complaint against one of them who was about to remove a crumbling fiber cement roof with exposed asbestos fibers... To give you an idea, the demolition people were breaking the sheets with their knees and feet, so the pieces fit better in the pickup truck! An inspector came to investigate and, shocked, said I was right. Months passed until I received a letter from the city council saying that the owner had a legal project to renovate the building. The letter had no reference to asbestos... and from then on I have a reputation as a whistleblower! Plus another neighbor of mine who built a huge illegal outdoor kitchen in front of my yard is a cop...
Q- how do you guys communicate with the locals? in other words, can you speak/understand porch of geese? also! how is it living with "temporary" amenities? how different were your lives before this van life style? was it hard to get used to your current accommodations? what do you miss and look forward to "get back" from your previous lifestyle? love the content, keep going and teaching. inspiring for us, a couple who wants to follow your steps.
That's awesome, nice progress! What you guys are planing about receiving people in the future? I mean, I love your project and would love to help out or maybe just swing by when I visit Portugal (I'm from Brazil, btw!).
The French roofers who did a historical fix on my Chateau Relais Templier were insane. Walking on tiny boards three stories up. Great workers but not much on safety.
Smaller trees can be weaved together or flattened on both sides and glued and nailed together. Then flatten the other face. You can glue many sheets of wood to make it stronger and thicker. 2 inches of hardwood can span about 5 feet without center supports
hallo daar allemaal geweldig dat ik jullie ook al op de Nederlandse tv-programma was tezien hoop dat de mensen eens wakker worden over al het verspillen van de aarde . hoop dat jij het kan vertalen voor me. groetjes uit Zeeland
Q- what’s you guys background ? Where are you all from ? What made you make this happen? How much is it cost 💲 to buy & live there ? How will you make a living? Who can join your group and how …? My kids & i Love to watch your videos .. ❤️❤️❤️🇺🇸
Q: what are your thoughts about urban sprawl / splinter development? Projects like yours do sure make sense in terms of living a simple life with a relative low carbon footprint. But do you think such an approach can also work in term of mitigating further expansion of inhabited areas?
It's always inspiring to see the ease you have to meet new people and places ! How do you reach them ? How is it to film everything/people you just met ? It is brave what you all are doing.
Do u live in Santa Comba Dão? I reconize some of that places and it was funny because i follow u guys here on youtube for a long time and never thought it was so close to where i live! :P
Please do NOT throw away the broken roof tiles. Break them up further and use them as gravel for roadways and paths. You could even mix them into cement (broken glass also. Just have to make sure that they are small small pieces)
Why does it matter? He can say it how ever he likes, as long as people understand. Clearly english is not his first language so he pronounces many things differently, but you correct him on THIS word?
Anyone who wants to learn standard English can go to some other video. The sooner you martinet pedants leave, the better. This is a show a building and farming, and it’s great for that.
@@Paul_Au He doesn't want to embarrass anyone... I call this freedom to correct others. Self correction and improvement are essential if you want to communicate.
Q: 1) Have you already chosen a wood chipper, like your frinds suggested? 2) How will you anchor the new roof to the ground? A good old sturdy concrete foundation?
The dimensional block is acting sorely as a casing, as the wood is obviously supporting the levels of floors and ultimately the roof structure. Am curious how you intend to insulate the outer walls and roof overhead against the summer and winter months?
Questions) Are you guys considering using your own granite as a source material in the near future? Is the machinery to be able to do so too expensive?
We love seeing all of your progress! This is one of our favorite sustainable living projects. Much love & respect from America, the land of maximum waste. What building system to use in a fire prone environment? The obvious answer is a building system that uses fireproof building materials like stone, brick, ceramics, cement, adobe, steel, etc on the OUTSIDE to protect all of the flammable materials that are on the INSIDE like wood, fabrics, plastics, and people. The very definition of sustainability & resilience is built structures that last for hundreds of years with just basic, minimal maintenance. Structures that easily survive fires, floods, high winds, and extreme weather. Here in America, watching people who live on coastal land below sea level rebuild homes previously destroyed by hurricane flood waters in exactly the same fashion as before makes one question the triumph of style over substance. If they rebuilt on tall rebar reinforced concrete pilings and built round hurricane resistant structures like a Deltec house, then each year's seasonal hurricanes would cause minimal damage that would be easily repairable. But, of course, that is not what people do. I wonder why? You folks already have fireproof metal shipping containers for your core infrastructure, so you are off to a wise, truly sustainable modular architecture. For these other, larger, custom buildings, the wisest approach is a fireproof outer building envelope that will protect the inside from even the worst forest wildfires (which you know are coming someday). Given the long-term, repetitive costs of re-building & re-provisioning after catastrophic fire losses, even the use of cement would probably be more CO2 efficient than wood when ALL the fire losses are totalled up. Build once, build for the local conditions, build for long-term resilience, build for low maintenance costs, use local materials when practical, but avoid purism in favor of a practical permanence. (You'll appreciate this last value when all of your belongings & people are safe inside your buildings while broad swarthes of charred landscape are still smoldering and all your wooden structures are toast.) My 2 cents in a nutshell.
Eucalyptus log for corner posts as well as roof rafters and framing out floor of packed earth or split logs.. You certainly have enough of these invasive trees on the land. Recycle roof tiles. Voila, only cost is cement for post setting and lots of nails!
Love that you are exploring more natural and local materials! Really hate it when people just use concrete and cement for everything. I even see a lot of people using it when building earthships or other types of natural homes. They pour a concrete floor in it for example... why? I can't even😖
@@lightdark00 I’m really interested in the substance of what people say! I don’t want people to be afraid of criticism if their English isn’t perfect. While I’m a native speaker of standard English, believe me when I tell you that our construction work here in the US is done without a lot of standardized English. No need to enforce those rules here.
@@twestgard2 If someone is trying to communicate in English, I like to help, not criticize. It's basically seeing a half filled cup as half full or half empty, just depends on the person.
@@twestgard2 I can agree with you both. I do let pass errors, but I do like the "unsolicited advice". you can use it or not, the way you prefer. I'm not a native english speaker, so I can relate to people who canno't write & speak it perfectly, but I do want to improve as well. One should not get angry or upset for being "adviced" lol
Q for QandA How and When will you define success? E.g. self sufficiency for x number of people in y number of years If you don’t really have a specific goal (as I suspect) how do you find working and motivation for a non-exact quest?
Isn't possible to transform plastic that goes to the trash into good beams to use instead of wood? I see some advantages: - it last longer - don't need treatment - probably lighter - transform trash in reusable things Maybe someone of precious plastic can help with that! I WOULD LOVE TO HELP YOU WITH SOMETHING!!! I'm a Portuguese waiting for some challenge that I can apply! All the best! ❤️
There are many waters within Portugal that a person could potentially find gold by panning in the creeks and rivers. ... The Ceira Valley and Gois region has been known to have gold for thousands of years. Would you consider panning for gold in the creek you cleaned up in update #23
Dont throw the old tiles away! Make terra preta from it! Charcoal will come from the Pizza oven and compost from your tribe!... perfekt for agriculture!
Is Rita your secret weapon when it comes to befriending all these fantastic local people? :) I am assuming she is Portuguese. How is your own Portuguese, and do you intend to include some Portuguese people in the project in a more permanent way (not only as tradespeople, but as residential participants).
The angle of roof tiles is a big thing. There are many different tiles and I looked for option for myself and came to the lowest angle of 42° for basic clay tiles. The problem is the heavy rainfall back splash that you sometimes have in southern Europe...
I don't understand why you did this. It's a big building, if you were worried about falling tiles then why not work in the half of the building without tiles? The existing half of the roof seemed solid and was still protecting that half of the building. The danger of a falling tile hurting someone was minimal especially if you were aware of the situation. What is your plan for this building now? Are you having a new roof put on it? Why didn't you repair that part of the roof instead of having it trashed?
@@Roosmarijn035 Sawdust for the compost toilet will be fine. Pine chips on pathways also no problem. Adding pine chips into compost with horse, cow, chicken manure, other green waste etc. , shouldn't pose an acidity problem if you leave it 12 months or so. Portugal woodland is dominated by Eucalyptus & pine.
@@martinwyke I was in a timber mill in Portugal and spent an hour loading my car up with free sawdust for a permaculture farm in Benfeita, Serra d'Açor, where they regularly picked up free sawdust. You don't know until you ask.
You could begin harvesting the largest mimosa trees. Dry them over the winter, and mill them in the spring. Smaller mimosas can be used for wattle & daub constructon, as you showed in the video. Your greatest resource is also the invasive species you are trying to rid the land of.
4:34 what is that picture?!... she is trying to stare into my soul... like I did something wrong... like killed her whole family... and then ate them or something... holy...
10:28 I couldn't believe how shit that was. You should have told them to take down all tiles carefully instead of smashing them on the ground. What is the point of smashing them on the ground, it just creates more work for later and it doesn't take that much longer to hand the bad tiles down with the other tiles. When they are on the ground they can be sorted into good tiles and bad tiles and you might even find a less critical use for the bad tiles. What a load of nonsense. This was an awful thing to happen and you should have made sure it didn't happen. There are only a couple of ruins on the land and you should be handling this better. I couldn't believe this.
7:00 Of course you cna built with that, sure it's not timber but if you stack many such stcks up next to each other they will end up having loads of strength.
Indigo "something" (sh*t for brains tonight) also bought their timber at a local saw mill, in central Portugal. And lots of off-gridders buy strimmers and chain saws at local businesses, from what I've seen.
@@Roosmarijn035 We buy everything we need from our local 'chicken shop man' (Spain). If he doesn't already sell it, he tracks it down and gets it for me and always delivers. I love chicken shop man!
