Just to be clear, I am not trying to discourage anyone from learning 3D. It's literally my life, and I love doing it - I've just seen too many people get frustrated when they work for 6 months modeling a human face and don't understand why their project doesn't like cutscenes from the Final Fantasy 7 Remake. People have no idea how long it takes before their models start looking that good. Then if you somehow manage to get over that hump, you soon encounter the challenge of shading, rigging, and animating it correctly. Each of which takes a lot of practice, and can easily be done wrong. So, if you just want to create your own world/story. And, you don't really care whether it's 2D, a comic, game, or a movie... I'm not saying that 2D is easy, because it definitely has it's own challenges, but in my opinion and experience, you're going to get a lot farther a lot faster if you master 2D instead. I hope that clears things up, and as always please have a fantastic day -!
I don't know, maybe it's an illusion, but for me 3D sculpting has turned out MUCH easier than drawing something to look like 3D. It's much more intuitive to me and I got way better results.
You are one of the best instructors I found on the web and fortunately there's a ton of good people out there right now, Andrew Price is one of them, you completely shine in the time department, and you don't disappoint at all in the detail and depth of your tutorials, I really appreciate all your content, if you ever consider sharing your experience with Unity I know it will be pretty handful, you convinced me to use inverse kinematics, I did the exchange filled with fear and anxiety and I'm glad I did, wish all the best always
@Royal Skies LLC Been attempting to make pictures of my characters for a while now, on and off for a few years, while also figuring out what I want the stories to be like. It's kind of an iterative process, figuring out what they need to be able to do and how they should look, since it's a fantasy world and fantasy worlds have rules. That said, your videos have been a great motivator, and I'm currently waiting for a long enough stretch of time I can start re-trying the whole process with some of your techniques included for the rigging. But that comes with a minor caveat, and it's related to your remark on "if you're a writer, go motion capture." I kinda wanna do motion capture, actually, but I don't think I can fit a horse in my living room. Or a deer. And even if I could, there's no way I can get them to stand on two legs or start punching each other. I'm doing animal fantasy, so... yeah. Definitely 3D for me, even as a writer first I definitely fall into the "does not exist" camp. Looking forward to the modelling tuts, definitely wanna see if there's any tricks I can use. Don't get me wrong, I've done modelling and rigging before, I know how to do basic stuff, it's just that it never turns out the way I want it and it takes a long time to realise I need to start over. Iterative process, basically, and it's never been a long enough stretch of practice that it progressed to anything meaningful beyond some half-decent cartoonish models with correct topology related to homologous organs. ... Pray for me.
I highly recommend trying both, then go from there. I started with 2D, drawing, art and such, I enjoyed it but when I tried 3D, it clicked with me. But I'm not dropping 2D, in fact I highly encourage you polish your talent in both 2D and 3D because there's a lot you can learn in one that'll translate to the other. If you don't agree, that's fine, I am just beginner right now anyway, this is just honestly what I feel about this.
Have been doing some 3d for a bit Wanna get the hang of 2d too, so I can make references for characters and other stuff and both is just really fun to do
@@cdscissor Nah imo the best combination is 3d cel shaded models with 2d VFX. 3d characters animate smoother than 2d characters and 2d effects tend to have more freedom than 3d ones
that is exactly my life story, i started with "2D" or just i started learning to draw and while after a couple of years or practice and training i got good at it but 3D modeling, sculpting and animation inmediately captured my attention and i advanced really fast in it, i still enjoy drawing but i also really like 3D i eventually want to make my own comic and i do plan to use the lesons of this channel to simplify things, simply speaking once you have a good 3D model you can move and put it in any position you want the same cannot be said of 2D art and with some touches here and there in a 2D program like photoshop, gimp or manga studios it can look really good, and if that 3D model already looks like a 2D drawing it seems like the best of both worlds into one
Over 3000 hours invested into blender, because of the solo game dev dream. I bet i am too late to ask this question. nah was worth it and would do it again!
I'll answer your question as someone who's walked that path. It's a once in a lifetime experience, and you'll be a much more powerful person after it's over :)
3 months learning blender here... Landed a game designer job. Once I've get experience and knowledge on that I'll definitely make my own game. You don't need to be perfect, just be confident and do what you loved making. Learn and train daily that's the way. Never too late.
One thing I'd like to note for anyone who are maybe discouraged by the "5 years to master 3D" comment is that I think this will heavily depend on the time you invest. If you're like only touching Blender/Maya like once a week or maybe at most like an hour on average a day or two days then yeah its going to take a few years. If instead you're investing into it like its your full time job, so like 40 hours a week, 8 hours a work day every work day I think you can probably get 90% of the way there to doing what you want out of it in 6 months; this is based on my own experience when I was fortunate enough at my job to get a chance to use blender for my work for like 8 hours a day for a month and I believe I learned more in that month than I did the last three *years*. So chin up people!
I've been soft paw modeling for like... 3 years now. Soft paw meaning, I get bored and step away from it for another hobby for a while. I've been using modeling for pretty much only 3D printing, until I started making a comic.. I actually use 3D models for the references for my 2D art. It gives me an idea of how the scene will look, and if I will like the outcome or if I need to re design the scene, it's been super helpful. You know what else has been super helpful? Royal Skies. If not only for his humorous approach to you know... fuckin life. It's also the fact he teaches you in under 5 minutes. None of this babbling for 20 minutes to get to a 2 minute solution. You're the best dude, keep doin you!
I've seen webcomics and animes that make their characters, environments, and so on in 3d, pose them up for a frame, and then draw over the render. the neat thing about that approach is that after you've got the 3D done, it becomes very easy to very rapidly produced finished frames, even if you're not a particularly good 2D artist. the really amazing part about it is that if done right, the 3d side of things can be completely invisible to the viewer.
SOOO here is a quite a story: There was dude named Adam who wanted to work at game industry but he was sh*t at drawning. So instead on going on some kind of course like a normal person would do, he decided that he will make some 3d stuff, then will try to draw it, and then he can tell everyone he can make 2d art. BUUUUT.... 3dMax is GOD DAMN EXPENSIVE. So he decided he will learn Blender. In one year he learned basics, in 2 he learned more. He figured out that 3d is amazing. He changed his mind on 2d and istead he focused on improving his 3d skills. But thats not the end of the story. When he was bored on lectures he used to draw stuff on the corner of his notebook. And since he had taken on 3d, his "stuff" started to look more and more... cool (?). Then he realized that he actually can do 2d drawnings, because he now knows how things really works with perspectives, volumes and other stuff (that i still don't know official names for). So TL;DR, what our friend said is true. You can't be focused on 3d and 2d simultaneously, becouse when you're focused on more than one thing you're not focused on anything. But knowing at least basics of each approach will help you improve as artist. So do not think of digital art as: "I must do only 3d coz i do 3d" or "I'll never touch blender coz 3d stinks". My suggestion, try both then focus on one. NOT important: I learned blender from Piotr Arłukowicz sooooo i guess i cant be clasified as a donut person /D
I have a similar story except I don't say suck at 2D, I just can't shake off my tendency to stylize (and stylization is not for beginners) and despite English being my main (what I use, not my mother tongue) language, I'm not a doughnut person either. I did do up until Level 2 but most of what I learned and use is courtesy of Royal Skies, so you could say I'm an Angel of the Royal Skies. If you see this, coin it.
I really enjoyed this story, was a real good read! I whole heartedly agree, and I absolutely think that it's always healthy to have good knowledge in both. In the beginning definitely experiment with each. And, then specialize on the one you feel will give you the most mileage given your goals. I hope you're friend is doing well now - Thank you for sharing :)
As a teenage beginner artist whose got a dream, I think I’m gonna do both. I honestly believe that I would just like both, there’s so much to be learned and gained from doing 2D and 3D. I’ve got ideas that fit better in 2D and others that fit better in 3D. Some should actually just be short films or even paintings. But if I think and dream in all these different art forms, why not do it all?
@@Mike-rk3wt slow but sure! The Callathiforay videos on the channel associated with this account are the ones where I've used Blender the most, parts 5 and 6 being the ones I'm most proud of
"we need to have the talk." Wait I already went through this.!?! "Is 3D right for you?" Oh yea... that talk... of course... "What talk did were you thinking???" ...the 3D talk obviously...
Every time I hear the phrase" Are you sure you want to be a 3d animator in SA" I always have that scratch of doubt in my heart but thinking about what I want to do, especially being being self taught, I can't let that doubt stop me
@@yash1152 I understand what you're saying. I've never looked up a tutorial for drawing like for blender and just expected to be good. Perhaps I shall learn the 2d side a little more
@@ratshave4748 also, amhhh, i feel sort of alone-ish in the my hobby for art. so, amh, would u mind me joining ur insta (if u have one) for some occasional chit chat about art and stuff??
2:30 "it's a lot less frustrating to learn to draw a character in 2D than to learn to create it in 3D" now I haven't created a full 3D character yet, but coming from 2D, there is no way this is true. So far 3D has been way easier to learn than 2D to me.
Nah dude,3D art is so much more technical and frustratingly. Sculpting s character is way way harder. Modeling geometry isn’t TOO bad...but man I can’t do this complex software stuff.
@@kangtheconqueror8359 Mind adapts to what it prefers. It seems you are more artsy, rather than technical artist and that's okay. You can specialize in one area and ask other people to do the other stuff for you :)
I made a template for my pixel art characters in like 3 hours when I first started pixel art... Now 3 yeasr later it takes me like 10-30 mintues to make a character... In blender oh man just to assemlbe stuff takes me an hour and I'm like a few days into serously using blender... How ever in 3D builder a much easier to use program then blender takes me like a day to make a low poly from space Porto Rico a freaken island that is still a work in progress. Yeah atleast to me 3D is extremly hard tatleast with Blender anyway.
This is probably the best advice video I've seen. Everything outside of 3d modeling I want to do or at least be apart of. But modeling is slowly becoming of interest for the challenge alone. I've truly looked at life differently since I've started
man royal skies videos scare me so much, because there is no crap, no sugar coating it. theyre so intimidating but i always come away from them so glad i watched it and cant wait for the next one!
Great presentation, for me, I never had the patience to learn to draw as a kid, now with Blender, I can make anything I can imagine, and that's awesome. I don't personally care how long it takes, or how many dead ends I go down, because it's all learning and fun :) Love your tutorials!
When I watched other videos, I thought this person was just someone who quickly explained the functions. However, this is the first time that a cheerful and rhythmic voice has made my heart flutter. That's right, we will create something that doesn't exist in the world.
I started learning 3d modeling because I wanted make a mod for Skyrim. With no experience made an armour/outfit, sword and shield. Now me and a friend want to make our own game. I'm still a novice 3d modeller at best, but fuck I want to give it a good try. I've been watching a lot of your vids, they are great and this video gives me a good bit of motivation to carry on. 3D art is beautiful, and the possibilities are endless.
Why am I doing it? I've always been fascinated with animation, and I want to make games as a hobby. I already know how to program, and 3D art/animation learning is a good way to pass the time. I have some animated things in mind that I just want to make real, just for me, cuz I think they're really cool. That's why I choose 3D.
I personally love 2D animation and 3D animation equally. They can create amazing things separately and together. Both have their ups and downs. We will always have bad 2D and 3D stuff like Berserk 16/17 (3D), The Emoji Movie (3D), Norm of the North (3D), The Queen’s Corgi (3D), Big Mouth (2D), Brickleberry (2D) and Paradise P.D. (2D) However we will always have masterpieces from both like Spider-Verse (3D), Arcane (3D), How to Train Your Dragon (3D), The Incredibles (3D), The Lion King (2D), A Silent Voice (2D) and Spirited Away (2D). In the end, i will always love animation in general. No matter what kind of art style 😊👍
You sir are a gold mine.. I'm an aspiring 3D and VFX student and let's just say I've been having a lot of problems everywhere now that I've been doing this for a couple of years and well ur videos kind of just simplified a lot of them and showed me why not to get frustrated and question my life choices every time something went wrong and I didn't know what to google to fix it xD also i love the to the point tutorials, really really helpful and mostly its motivational to just keep at it so thanks. ur doing great work, keep it up! I am now a forever supporter :)
With the whole "You just like modeling" thats really important. Maybe someday 3d modeling will be useless as machines will be able to generate anything you like, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't learn 3d modeling. I mean, you can model any claymation you want with 3d software, but people still use traditional stop motion animation techniques.
As someone who picked up 3d as a hobby this video hits really hard! When I started it was more or less because a friend challenged me to learn it and I figured it would help me with learning game design anyways. Now that I'm about a year into learning 3D I've its really to do the whole process and I'm actively seeking out tutorials and way I can improve my work/artstyle. Also ngl Royal Skies your tutorials are top notch for anyone interested in npr rendering! Love you bud
3d has so many purposes. It is a challenging area of knowledge. I am sure it can help prevent Alzheimer's and keep you sharp until you're 90 and beyond. 3d has a unique option of combining left and right hemisphere activity by introducing technical complications on the path of your creative self-expression. But at the same time it helps your spatial thinking evolve. When I got my degree in architecture I thought I could sculpt well. But after I started making my first models in 3ds max and Zbrush 1.3, I got so depressed about how shitty they were looking. It took years to bring coherence to the hands and brain and really start seeing a 3d object on screen. It is an art in itself and we should not think of it as of some utilitary thing: making game assets, animations, environments etc. It is beautiful as a separate art type with a pretty steep learning curve - much more complex than handling oil paints and solvent.
Very good video, but I do comics, and have been learning blender. It is a valuable tool, because drawing is time consuming craft, and making 3-d references for characters and locations, keeps size and perspective correct so you can focus telling your story. It won't make you a great artist, but if you are serious about getting your projects done, and protecting your body, you should look for what blender can assist you in. Work smart, not hard.
Another reason (mine) is that im freelancer web developer and web designer, been able to load 3d models in your web its something that sells you very well, but honestly i just kind of enjoy seeing things that has come from my mind, everybody can take a picture now a days
whether or not processing your ideas to make it real(ish, real-er, conveys better for some clear/unclear reasons ) is your desire, not 2d or 3d matter. still, like, you have to compose things for split second enjoyment/attention of someone, or your own for many hours if you just really want your ideas to be processed. there is the messsage similar to that though throughout this video, I just take it differently. you still have to decide whether or not the girl you pay to cosplay for will consent, looking like you wish it to be, etc., working with the refinement of decisions, your own sound feedback to it
3D and especially Blender is good for many different things and each specialisation has its own depths (CAD, architecture, product design, etc.) and requires specialised knowledge in the respective subfield. That is also one reason why it is easy to get lost in 3D. Especially in Blender with Sculpting and 2D Grease Pencil applications it is even easier to get lost. What I would really be interested in would be professional entry scenarios, i.e. what you really need to know or at what level you need to be in order to get offered a job, which probably varies from sector to sector, and what you will only learn afterwards on a sector-specific basis. Or also, I am a 2D graphic designer and layouter, whether and how the use of 3D in the "classic field" is quasi realistic?
What gets me are the guys who go to great lengths to get noise free, high res realistic images from a CG render that takes hours to render then in post add film grain and color noise for that proposed final touch of added realism.
Great video, especially since our time in this world is limited, but I guess those people who make 'hyperrealistic art' also fall under the umbrella of "liking creation" but I still think it's a bit of a waste. Just take a picture!
I said I was waiting,... well, here i am .. now i wait for the next one ... i believe my style has always been something more like Disney's Haplph movie ... let's see
great video, as always, you got me thinking about 3d storying telling, i really like the idea of making a 3d cartoon series like rwby and others, you really think it would take 5 five years?
It only takes 5 years if you're just working on things every now and then casually. Like you get home from school, work, life, and maybe work for 2 or 3 hours every other day. If you're dedicating 3 to 4 hours every day, you can make your own rwby in 1 or 2 years from scratch. I'll try to help you guys out by providing free 3D models and environments next year -
Imma just learn 3D, cuz it looks easier imo I wanted to do animations in 2D at first, but I wanted to do animations like those animes that have very complex perspective and camera angles, but I didnt wanna invest my time (im very lazy) trying to learn how to draw in perspective, and learn anatomy and stuff, so I wanted to learn 3D and make animations like Monty Oum, Dillongoo, Shane Newville. Im also choosing 3D because its faster to make good animations/just faster in general.
i.. i want to make or at least learn to make realistic 3d scenes because my taste is quite "special" to put it that way and finding a model and not having to pay her tons of money for this is pretty hard. well, im now about a year in. the scenes are still far away from being realistic, however they look alright to me and the process is a good distraction from the stressful work life. 2d is also nothing for me because i su*k quite hard at drawing. its easier for me to create a simplified 3d object, than having to recreate it in a 2d space where you have to match distortions, view angles etc.
Sounds like 3D is probably the best medium for you then. And, I am in a similar boat because I also suck at drawing. For me, I learned 3D because I hated drawing the same character from different angles lol
description: "It's very likely 2D may actually be more appropriate depending on your goal" Me: yes, precisely. but whyy do i find 3d attracting my attention again and again
I'm gonna love this modeling course. I've been tryna figure out how to make a 3D model of some realistic-ish/stylistic Pokemon models since I got into 3D and even before that, I'm diving in.
Sounds like you are speaking to the people who dont know what they specialize in. But what if you wanted to do this professionally? Wouldnt you have to learn many styles for designing a character and a environment along with textures or am I suppose to just focus on the style I like a lot and work on it?
Sure, if you were set on doing this professionally. I would say the most important style you should focus on is photo-realism. That style is probably in the highest demand. You will naturally develop a personal style that is most comfortable for you as you practice. So focus on photo-realism for professional. And, if you're working for a small team, probably try learn how to make low-poly look good -
im actually learning the donut series just for learning blender itself and make some 3d model of your local food that isnt available anywhere. can also import it into games. good stuff
Wow. This video really encouraged me to do 3D modeling. I do digital painting. I work with a flat canvas in a digital art painting. However I do use shading and texture to make the pictures look three dimensional. I also do a lot of 2D sketches in physical sketchbooks. Sketches are good for experimenting and developing my ideas. Digital painting is good for creating a high quality images for finished products. I think of my 3D work as something far superior. The only real benefit that 2D has is that it is easier and faster to do. So it is more efficient for developing ideas. However today, my said she likes my 2D work better than my 3D work. I am thoroughly confused. I was looking for info on the internet about 2d vs 3d art. I got to this video. This blew my mind. 3D modeling is not something I was considering let alone working on. This video did a good job of showing options and giving the strengths and weaknesses. Yet I found that I am a good candidate for learning 3D modeling. The kind of stuff I like to draw and paint is stuff that is unrealistic. I have a special interest in the fantasy genre, and I like to indulge. I never touched photography because I didn't want to be limited by reality. There is so much that I like to draw, but I couldn't photograph. There are magicians, dragons, elves and monsters. I also like to draw pretty and androgynous men. That is something that is possible in the real world, but it is really hard to find. I like to draw pretty women, but they are a lot more common. Even the donut woman in this video is pretty enough for my uses. I never thought about 3D modeling. That may be something to check out.
Been on and off blender after hitting roadblocks with weight painting and rigging. With the help of your videos, I've gotten started on a really big project, Thanks for the help, I can't wait for your next video. also, I'm using pre-established characters in said project. I want to pull in fans of that franchise while also making a name for myself. Is this a good tactic?
You're very welcome, and yes that's actually the best way to build a name for yourself quickly - It's much easier to build your own franchise after you have at least some base of support that love your work -
I've already had experience with 2D, but abandoned it to chase things I've thought were more profitable - in the end, I'm not sure that profit difference was worth it. I made several attempts to go back to it, giving up cuz I'm easily frustrated, but lately the URGE struck me again - this time stronger, we'll see if I can get through the obstacles of learning proper perspective and shading (my two weaknesses, in this exact order), because after fighting with Blender to follow some dude's Zelda model tutorial and still not making that thing even close to what he demonstrated, I'm pretty sure 3D will not be my future...
This is comedy gold...I started messing with Blender like 100 years ago cause I though 'oh it'll help me storyboard' --- cut to 1000 hours later, and if I'd picked up a pencil and paper and learned to draw - I'd probably be half decent...but then I got into making a short film 'oh, animation will be EASIER than live action, cause I can do it all in my basement' -- sure, and I did...but I'm 8 years older .... now, while I'm waiting to see if that film goes anywhere, I was like - oh, I'll just do a proof of concept for a 3d film by making two characters and using auto-lipsync...cause our AI overlords and the youtubers made that look easy....well, 85 hours later, I've got some pretty bad 3d models...but was it fun? that's the thing about rabbit holes...figuring this stuff out - FOR SOME PEOPLE - is like video games that you tell yourself is 'work'...or work adjacent...what is so addictive though, is seeing the guys (with like 1000000 hours of experience, but for some reason you ignore that..) who make videos where they world build and throw some characters in in what looks like 15 minutes...so you go back to wondering why the weight paint thing won't let you ctrl click a bone...
I wanted to focus on 2D, but I kinda realized that I need my art form to be grounded in something physical, if that makes sense, I have a harder time wrapping my head around drawing than 3D models, but by god do I wish I could do both
@@goku_dunker_420 I also recently picked up 3d and wanted to give up on 2nd but i mean, you can do both and improve on both eventually :) like one day you can draw, the second you can do 3D... Or it also helps if you do 2D in morning, 3D in evening, you choose
I love 3d art and I started back at late November 2019 and I love doing allmost what ever on 3d. If I see evn a table I want to make it and model it in 3d. I want to get far ahead but sometimes I get a bit overwhelmed by all the stuff I'm yet to learn sence I've dipped into a little bit of a few things and a solid 6 month or more in hard surface modeling I've done Uv,rigging , animating just to test every area and I live allmost all of them But I can't stop feeling some times overwhelmed by all the things yet to come and when I feel down there's allways something that tells me not to stop. All hough having a bit less time now because of my work I still put in those hors to learn blender and all the concepts and I really don't wanna stop This might be a rant but it was something to say and to o thers that feel like me. I'm with you and I ain't stopping untill inmake those bad ass animations league style xD
timestamps (in a commentary manner so, not suitable for copy-paste to description/video chapters): 0:26 mom's point 0:42 be a photographer 1:21 be a video editor 1:44 be a comic/toon artist 2:00 real life alternate to learning 3D lolll 2:28 be a 2d artist (for writer and storyterllers) 2:39 wowww, that doesnt look 2d at allll to me. ---- 2:53 why 3D then?? (ohh also, CAD is not covered here, but thats somewhat different thing than this type of 3D also, so... not totally wrong to exclude that either) 2:55 #1: Use (haha, i wont totally spoil these here) 3:12 #2: Create 3:48 #3: Joy
Hearing this after a month starting to messing around with blender, I start to wonder why did I even learn this? Turns out, aside from 3D modelling... I have nothing :V My university major is Game Design and Developing. And I hate coding after one year of learning. I failed art university... so I couldn't go through with 2D because I know my art career is doomed. So the only thing I can cling on is 3D. Would want something that I can't get bored of to fiddle in some of my tiny free time also :)
I'm really more getting into the animation side of things rather than modeling. And the reason for that is because I want to make animations of my favorite characters farting. I ALSO don't have Mocap, so I'm doing animation the traditional way in 3D
Oh man, I would like so much to master 3d to tell a story, does that mean it’s impossible? That’s really what I want and I don’t see it in any other way.
2D is actually easy than 3D like 2D work on all PCs, It's easy to learn and animated & a 2D game is easy to make because it's lack the Z axis which is important to 3D Gaming & Art.
real world is cool and all but i like digital world better. In the real world, science limits our capabilities. But in the digital world, computer limits our capabilities. Considering how advance computers are these days, it will take a hard time to reach that limit. I dont care if what i created is not realistic cuz it was never real in the first place
My favorite one for environments is: kitbash3d.com/collections/kits If you just need random vehicles, this is a pretty good one: free3d.com/3d-models/vehicles For furniture, there are a lot of good places for that, but this one is pretty solid: www.cgtrader.com/free-3d-models/furniture Hope that helps- !
I'm a 2D artist, but I also mess with 3D because I'd like to make games, or more precisely, I have games I'd like to see made (all fighting games), but can't afford to get other people to do it for me, so I gotta do it myself. I also write. Definitely do not recommend.
Is there a chance people will realize my characters are 2d characters drawn to move in a 3d environment (a video game) whether or not the camera moves? Or maybe I should make it to where the third person character turns the player does so, the illusion won't be broken?
