The four people accused in the murder and kidnapping of two Kansas women made their initial court appearance on a Wednesday at 9:30 a.m. in Texas County, Oklahoma. trib.al/ZU5c2Vg
@@MrShanester117What do you consider wealthy cause I hope they have $250,000 in the bank cause that's how much they'll need to hire a good enough attorney that can beat this some how!
Those poor women and they probably didn’t know how those poor children were while all this was happening to them😩 May they rest in peace and may there be some stable life for those children including that brave 16 year old.
And the murderer had custody of the victims children! I would sue the ars off the children's service and the state for giving the murderer grandmother custody of this murder victim children.! This is sickening that the dead mother had to meet her killers so she could see her children! Something very wrong with this picture!
Definitely, granny grew a very long Nose with all her lies to childrens services. When the Mother was kind and Loved her children...Was she afraid? Yes.... I dealt with childrens services. Horrible... Children's services needs an overhaul.
You kill the mother to your grandkids who you clearly did not want to let go of and now you’ll never be able to see them freely ever again. Pointless damn act.
I believe it was because they thought members of that cult would be out there trying to defend them some how. But it could also be that they are hated by many people right now as they should be.
No one has the right to kill someone. All of the innocent children who will suffer for this. My heart goes out to the brave and courageous 16yr old who broke the case open. Mercy and grace and love to all.
Capital punishment is a legal penalty in the U.S. state of Oklahoma. The state has executed the second largest number of convicts in the United States (after Texas) since re-legalization following Gregg v. Georgia in 1976.
The other hag arrested has a public defender she broke IMO she will give states evidence There is a running theme with these child custody cases Pike County hillbillies even the Adellsons in Florida there is always a female family matriarch who is Hypnotized with hate Am I wrong?
Because jealousy/envy is the most evil thing that exists. Society coddles the mentally ill, and innocent people lose their lives when they encounter pure evil/hatred, jealous, and insecure people.
@@HotStuffinChicken kindness is their target and he seems like the guy, so I have my concerns surrounding those boys though there’s no evidence to back it. The sooner they get answers the better, because the longer it drags out the less likely it’ll be to get them
The children will never be ok. Their lives have been destroyed in so many ways. My condolences to the families of these women. May God help these children through out their life. A hole that will never be filled. This case speaks of so much evil!
Lost my Mother when I was 7 yrs old. Never got over losing her. These children were being groomed for her cult, just my thought. Granny probably received $ for caring for the children and didn't want to lose. Such Evil, beyond harsh. She lied and had the whole town believing her lies. She didn't allow her own Son, the childrens father to see his own children. So she sent him to Re-Hab. She probably drive him crazy. So sad for the Families, they that lost two wonderful Mothers. God help them, in your precious name, we ask.
@@dudemandudebro938: It’s a myth. Prison fights are not uncommon just like they are among all street punks, inside or outside, but this nonsense about ‘they’ll get him/her in prison’ is pure bs. Murderers are likely to be looked up to by brain dead punks as heroes more so than targets.
Capital punishment is a legal penalty in the U.S. state of Oklahoma. The state has executed the second largest number of convicts in the United States (after Texas) since re-legalization following Gregg v. Georgia in 1976.
I get the impression that Cora is the one that spilled the beans therefore she is getting an attorney through the state versus paying for one privately. She's the only one wearing an orange jumpsuit, the others are wearing stripes.
Fun fact...her son won't get custody either. All she did was ensure that. Not sure why they're acting all smug for cause they are all going to rot in prison and then in hell.
If Veronica wanted custody of her children and she is allowed to, just let her have them! This case reminds me of the Adelson case where the grandmother wanted custody. Sick people.
@user-hp1gk4jj5e nope, call it what it is and stop making excuses for people who commit crimes of any kind, nothing or noone makes people murder, torture, steal,Cheat, lie, take responsibility quit blaming others, they r evil blights on society
Both families need to be covered with Prayers. I am so sorry for the loss of these wonderful women. Please remember them and help the grieving families and cover them Prayers and moral support and most of all Love. Cover law in forcement too. This affects everyone involved.
Well, yeah, you cannot take recording devices or personal cameras into a court room. Thus, smart phones and other newer devices can't go into the court building cuz they take pictures, video, and audio.
There should be more charges like concealing evidence. These people are twisted. My condolences to both victims loved ones. It will take a long time, but justice will prevail. R.I.P. Veronica & Jilian 🌹🌹
I saw an interview with the municipal judge talking about how the father of the child works for him, what a great guy he is..... maybe thats why these scum thought they should have custody over the mother, set the mother up
I saw a single report that he resigned after the interview came out, do not know if this is correct or not. But he is possibly the same judge that dismissed a weapon charge against one of the men a few months previously.
When you think you would be the better guardians or have full custody of a child and you think murdering a child's mother is going to be less traumatic on them then doing things the legal way in court....You are the problem
This is Horific.. no one wins in a situation like this, Children Lose their Mother, Parents lose their Children, The victims lose their Life..The Families lose it all. Its Devistating to say the least. I will never understand how someone that commits a crime like this finds any win in this crime. My Mother was murdered in 1992 The Pain of losing a Loved one NEVER goes away..
Great consistent and accurate coverage from this reporter, staff and station, including the woman who assisted with the recorded conversations with the alleged killers. Really, really, great job. My prayers go out to both families, are specially the children of families involved.
Was this all about the monthly check for child support that the government pays or was this about saving the son from paying it or just evil jealousy ..
Granny is a methed up narcissist who had a long criminal record and has a son - the “father” of the kids was in prison and then in drug rehab - who is also a criminal loser. Granny cares only about her own ego. Those children, and of course Jillian’s four children, will live the rest of their without a mother. Disgusting.
Capital punishment is a legal penalty in the U.S. state of Oklahoma. The state has executed the second largest number of convicts in the United States (after Texas) since re-legalization following Gregg v. Georgia in 1976.
Tifany Adams is CHAIRMAN of the Cimarron County GOP!!!!....Quite famous!! Wealthy large ranch owner....Million in farm subsidies....Three are employed by her
Not only did the 4 of them decide to murder an innocent mother.. But they decided to kill her innocent friend as well, which wasnt even really nessessary.😢
I’ve been following this case for weeks from Canada where there is no death penalty. I have to say there is something to be said for monsters like these four spending the rest of their lives in 8x6 cells. They won’t even be safe in the general prison population I’m sure. All of these people are used to being on huge ranches where they could (past tense) ride their horses and work with cattle as they enjoyed the huge landscape and open prairie skies…all that is now gone from their lives forever. How stupid. How evil.
Stupid people think they are smart but they had no reason for killing the two young mothers . But this is a group that have the law in their back pockets . I. Hope I am wrong .
So the poor children lost their moms. At least the kids are spared from an evil grandmother. Narcissists are so dangerous, and having kids with one is a destiny to hell. You can bet they made life hell for that mom. Same with the custody dispute in Las Vegas where the grandfather shot the mom and stepdad. Its not LOVE , its Control.
If we were living in The Wild Wild West 💁🏽Not saying 2024 is no better… But back then they would have been hanged real quick in front of the Town Square 🤨
IM SO VERY CURIOUS THEY SAY ALL 4 PPL R ABLE TO PAY FOR LAWYERS RIGHT? THEY SAY THEY HAVE ALOT OF MONEY...MY QUESTION IS THO..HOW DID GRANDMA HAVE THESE KIDS TO BEGIN WITH??? IF GRANDMA HAD ALL THIS MONEY AND GRANDMA HAD ALL THESE CONNECTIONS WAS THE KIDS TAKEN FROM MOM AND GRANDMA USED HER CONNECTIONS AND MONEY FROM THE BEGINNING???? THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS FOUND OUTa
This is despicable, I feel so badly for the children. The stupid four of them to be involved in this means they were feeding on each other’s anger and rage.