Family of 2 dead Kansas moms seen cursing at suspects in court | Banfield

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The four suspects arrested in connection to the killings of two Kansas mothers were officially arraigned in an Oklahoma court Wednesday, when a judge denied each of them bond. NewsNation’s Brian Entin spoke with Butler’s aunt Ladonna Thompson as she left the courtroom. She had to hold her brother back from lunging at the suspects in court. NewsNation's Brian Entin joins "Banfield" to discuss what when on during the court hearing.
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@charliecoe2717 Месяц назад

To bad the moms had zero protection. The judge responsible for ordering visitation under the circumstances the moms were forced to endure should have known better.

@Anonymous6716 Месяц назад

It says in the affidavit the preacher’s wife had a pistol magazine (*found in her purse) but no pistol was found. I think she may have had a concealed carry permit. I wonder what happened. So sad.

@mysticalmargaret6105 Месяц назад

I think this is going to haunt that judge forever.

@dwaynemclaren7160 Месяц назад

@@mysticalmargaret6105 Does it though? Not sure they actually care. If they did, would we not see JUDGES Quitting regularly because of their mistakes? Out of guilt at the very least?

@brandyweems8326 Месяц назад

Absolutely......domestic violence cases have always screwed the women.....I'm 46,I remember, the burning bed, starring Farrah Fawcett,that movie was incredible.....that was the 80s.....nothings changed.....it's terrible....RIP ladies....my deepest condolences to the family and friends ❤❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

@Elena-fe3os Месяц назад

@@Anonymous6716 from my understanding, the mother had it , in her purse. Yes, I wonder same. Hope they did not suffer

@jpallen719 Месяц назад

I can tell you this, that there is no punishment that will be good enough for these people for what they did to those two poor women, and what they went through before their death.

@suzannest-laurentdvorak459 Месяц назад

What did they do to those 2 women? I haven’t heard the whole story? I know it’s Shameful what ppl do these days though.🥺

@Day1onDay1 Месяц назад

Pleased the court allowed them to display some anger.

@KD-yf6le Месяц назад

Right! Getting cursed at is nothing compared to what these lowlifes did to their loved ones.

@catbones1 Месяц назад

I think the families of the ladies showed excruciating restraint and thank God the Judge allowed them to express their raw ,gut-wrenching emotions . Rest in Peace ... Love from Australia x

@lorih9180 Месяц назад

Prayers for the families of these two precious women 💙🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

@beckywauer2291 Месяц назад

I don't know how they thought they would get away with this. I knew from the beginning the Grandmother was involved!

@marysketch4772 Месяц назад

Yes I remembered someone here saying "look at the grandmother" before.

@cindylewis7072 Месяц назад

I think all of us knew it was the grandma… including the LE & JUDGE who handled the original child custody case

@dukey19941 Месяц назад

It’s weird because when I think of Grandmas I always picture my Grandma who was 4’11” and wore house dresses and made us cookies and shakes and gave us the best hugs mankind has ever known.

@nikkilynn4000 Месяц назад

@@dukey19941Right? It just blows my mind. Those poor women. This is just awful.

@lindarivera584 Месяц назад

Stop calling her Granmother !!!she's a monster along with the rest of them. The family needs to sue the original court judge from custody. My hearts are broken for the victims and their families.

@diane8816 Месяц назад

Many prayers for the Moms family. I am so sad for the Children who are the ones that will suffer from all this. Prayers to the children 🙏🙏

@tamijapink6671 Месяц назад

Having them do the walk of shame in front of everyone was touching.

@naturalkinks8683 Месяц назад

I can't wait to see this trial. I hope they will allow cameras in the courtroom.

@tamijapink6671 Месяц назад

@naturalkinks8683- from another YT platform they said that the next court date is May 9 th. Let’s hope we find some confirmation on that.

@lillycompton2177 Месяц назад

When there's that much contention between the parties involved, the visitation drop off and pick up should be done at a police station. That's not uncommon. It happens everyday

@audreydaleski1067 Месяц назад

So soon after crime. Emotions havent had a second to process.

@patrickturner8817 Месяц назад

Why do they protect criminals so much, with so much security. These are criminals. The worst of the worst. . Yet our children in schools are not protected. Also let the people get to the criminals we would take care of it.

@iAmBrothaDee Месяц назад

I think it's called due process .

@audreydaleski1067 Месяц назад

It's the group they ate in. They were also protecting family of victims, court personnel.

@fitcher-armchair-sleuth Месяц назад

Our Freedom vs Our Safety. If I say much about dna testing YT blocks the post. It does seem like those who break our laws (criminals) have more rights then everyone else. It's due process in the computer tech-age. It is getting very expensive to bring criminals to justice as defense lawyers find new ways to drag things out and attack the laws on the books.

@catalinacurio Месяц назад

Before punishment a verdict must be found or we’d be bashing each other over accusations.

@amosfrench7169 Месяц назад

because its in the constitution and god forbid you do anything and get in trouble you will want that kind of protection too. damn you non constitution people

@theresehopkins1581 Месяц назад

Millions of us out here feel like Veronica's dad.....😢💔💔🙏🙏😪

@audreydaleski1067 Месяц назад

Uner the circumstance, not bad words.

@melissadavis9591 Месяц назад

Lower than dirt.

@kathikapp6707 Месяц назад

Great coverage! Thank you! Get some rest!

@glendapate1960 Месяц назад

It is so sad that both those mothers were murdered for trying to be good mothers to their children.

@heidiwaddell5721 Месяц назад

The family state a judge denied Veronica an order of protection grom thos woman, Tifany thats been harrassing abd threatening her for years! Wtf is going on in thos county??? Does this woman run this county??

@archangel807 Месяц назад

Wealthy Rancher ....Tifany Adams (Granny) is the Cimmaron County GOP Chairman! Famous! ......Ranchers own the law and courts......Other three work for her.......

@susanjones8489 Месяц назад

She’s the head of the county Republican Party that’s why. Criminals.

@JK-lp6uw Месяц назад

@@susanjones8489 😂😂😂 right.

@L.D.Intheditch Месяц назад

@@archangel807Isn't she a Sovcit?

@user-rw2uh5bv3o Месяц назад

I don't know but I do know you can't be both@@L.D.Intheditch

@mickeysmith5295 Месяц назад

I feel sorry for that family. I can understand them having those emotions. They need to go to prison and never see sunshine again

@kathyrogers2065 Месяц назад

Keep up the good journalism NewsNation.

@Woof7777 Месяц назад

Tifany is GOP Chairman for Cimarron County, she has people in her back pocket and has for a long time. This all runs much deeper than people realize. Also for CW to ask Cora if they put the women in a well, she's obviously been through this before. All land ever affiliated with this people need searched good, starting with Tifanys 1000 acres.

@queenbee3647 Месяц назад

The GOP doesnt need dirt like them. We already have Liz Cheney.

@lomojogogo Месяц назад

That tracks she was GOP chair

@PK-bh1ww Месяц назад

@@queenbee3647 we get the picture.... tho it's not the same as yours...

@user-rw2uh5bv3o Месяц назад

Poor families I am sorry for the loss 😢

@Woof7777 Месяц назад

Veronica had her own place, a police officer fiance of 5 yrs, her own business, Sunflower Nutrition, a juice and smoothie bar, she has been an upstanding citizen pretty much all along, so the former attorney should not speak as if Wrangler was working on himself and Veronica was incompetent. Wrangler was in court ordered rehab when Tifany and her minions k*lled Veronica and Jillian, while Veronica was actively doing everything in her power to provide a good life for her children and get them back.

@sosoc2616 Месяц назад

Thank you for sharing, and keeping it real ❤

@larrygenentex5987 Месяц назад

Prayers for the victims family's

@PSA3377 Месяц назад

A little vigalante justice was needed there. 😢

@SandraBlanton-vn3mh Месяц назад

Strikes me strange that all could afford lawyers except wife of couple charged. Guess they throwing her to wolves. Maybe because daughter turned them in. What a brave 16yr old. My heart goes out to her.

@peacemakerx3 Месяц назад

Fascinating details about that Courtroom 😮

@LKsmom Месяц назад

So what has happened to the children that they were trying to get for visitation?

@sosoc2616 Месяц назад

Ive been wondering the same thing. What went so wrong that everything escalated to this?

@wendymontgomery2903 Месяц назад

I believe they are now with the mother Veronicas mom. Hopefully they will have a chance at some kind of normalcy after this is over.

@mariabowles5415 Месяц назад

Correct me if I'm wrong, but murdering your rival in a bitter custody battle wouldn't seem to recommend you for the job of caring for young children. Now, those poor kids have no mother, a father in rehab, and a grandmother going to prison. It seems to me that "grandma" didn't really care about the kids at all. Wanting custody for her must have been more about control and revenge. How did she think murdering their mother was in their best interest? And, did they really believe they would get away with it???

@PK-bh1ww Месяц назад

These kinds of people don't grasp logic. Nor care about anything except their own personal need to have power.

@Rushyyz3 Месяц назад

Not the sharpest tool in the shed!

@lisabona7978 Месяц назад

Below TRAILER TRASH.

@crystalhanson1483 Месяц назад

@@PK-bh1ww TRUE! {SAD}

@faithinhumanity3390 Месяц назад

I tell you when my daughter was murdered it was a miracle I didn’t go after the mans family .. I wanted to take away everything he loved

@batgirl4766 Месяц назад

That’s really disgusting that you would go after people who are innocent to punish the guilty 🤮

@faithinhumanity3390 Месяц назад

@@batgirl4766 have you lost your daughter and had her dismembered ?

@HaYlEeXx19 Месяц назад

@@faithinhumanity3390omg. I’m so so sorry. That’s horrifying.

@faithinhumanity3390 Месяц назад

@@HaYlEeXx19 when we lost her my world changed for the worse and my life now is to protect other children

@sosoc2616 Месяц назад

Stage 2 of grief - Anger. Its natural to want to hurt a person who has wounded you for life. If you believe in God, one could say its the perpetrators mirror, and its the survivors test. Life lessons. Which way to turn. Choose wisely. Ive lost 2 sons tragically. My heart is with you, and I get where you're coming from. Stay strong, pass the test, and let God take care of the rest ❤

@user-pg7cx9wo1m Месяц назад

Remember Folks that these 4 are the towns bullies, everyone was afraid of them including the Sherriff Department!

@JK-lp6uw Месяц назад

The sheriff's department is not afraid of them. Stop with the lies.

@Rushyyz3 Месяц назад

You’re only bullied if you let it happen!

@13skymoons13 Месяц назад

Heart breaking

@janicem9225 Месяц назад

Honestly. Do you blame them for cursing these murderers? News media is so stupid sometimes. The female reporter actually understands the emotions of victims. The male is just dumb.

@hood_TheJoker Месяц назад

people with money sometimes feel entitled... delusional folks..

@sosoc2616 Месяц назад

They dont look like they had much money

@hood_TheJoker Месяц назад

@@sosoc2616 they have plenty money and are major land owners.. they didn't flaunt their wealth

@paulabrahimi2589 Месяц назад

Both mommies rest in peace 🙏. Sad for the children that lost their mommies.

@americanassociationagainst7981 Месяц назад

Excellent, Excellent Reporting!

@surelyiamlove1177 Месяц назад

Brian Entin is top notch.

@LeafsAndCars Месяц назад

Family members of murder victims SHOULD be allowed to NOT JUST MAKE IMPACT STATEMENTS BUT ALSO VENT DURING THE PROCEEDINGS!! Whatever happened to "freedom of speech"!!

@JK-lp6uw Месяц назад

The process should not be interrupted by chaos. Get a grip. Be an adult not a spoiled child. 😂

@LeafsAndCars Месяц назад

@@JK-lp6uw first of ALL! I'm 67 and probably old enough to be your GRANDPA! SECOND! A "spoiled child" would only care about THEMSELVES, whereas I CLEARLY stated that ALL family members should have the freedom to voice their opinions and objections in a CONTROLLED MANNER!

@PK-bh1ww Месяц назад

@@LeafsAndCars They should be allowed to vent at the right time and p0lace. After the conviction and at sentencing they get to do a victim impact statement. And freedom of speech only covers speaking out against the government. Not for shooting your mouth off anytime anywhere... Esp. in a courtroom. For that there are rules .

@katieh3236 Месяц назад

I find it hard to believe baby dady didn't know

@MW-xm1rc Месяц назад

Well these three have figured out how they are going to be able to retire and have everything they need.

@oceancat0450 Месяц назад

I don’t understand how people that have no relation to another persons family drama, get talked into murdering someone. Tiffany is the one with the family drama. Why would the other 3 risk it and help her?

@hollytroutman2264 Месяц назад

The families should be allowed to express their feelings! Way to go Oklahoma for letting this happen for the families.. 💔

@merrisilva5641 Месяц назад

I lost a son to brutality and I know the anger. What can you do? The system is all there is. It can be partial justice or none.

@deniseblackburn33 Месяц назад

So heartbreaking 💔

@bekaharrell3885 Месяц назад

The poor father in this case is totally justified in his outrage and desire to harm these people. Fortunately for the suspects the penal system will extract the justice they deserve instead of the family. It’s called : “Prison Justice,” for a reason. If the family had their way justice would be swift and deadly. In prison if you harm a female or a child the penalty is extremely harsh as the prisoners will extract justice far worse than the family would because they have wives, girlfriends and children as well. RIP to these women and may justice be served. Praying for all of us!!! ❤️❤️❤️😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏

@wallspatty Месяц назад

To protect those murderers? WTF!

@beckywauer2291 Месяц назад

Thanks for keeping me updated on this story! Enjoy NewsNation!

@user-iz2wi8vq6k Месяц назад

They just found out,not to long ago! And have to see these people. Horrible!

@Tipperary757 Месяц назад

Seriously? Who wears a hoodie in a professional venue?

@chicanica64 Месяц назад

Great reporting. I’m so sorry you had to be traumatized by these animals. Thank you for allowing some resemblance of venting to the victim’s family. Thank you, your Honor. ❤

@katherineharvey5663 Месяц назад

The judge that made Jillian go on this dangerous visit needs disbarred

@crystalhanson1483 Месяц назад

TRUE!

@cessnaflyer Месяц назад

sad to see an innocent Jillian Kelly drug into this nutcase family situation.

@kn9369 Месяц назад

I agree with you. She was dragged into the drama of this crazy family madness. I feel bad for the victims that lost their lives.

@markgoforth1900 Месяц назад

Welcome to Oklahoma!! So funny you say it's NOTHING you've ever seen b4. Y'all don't enter courtroom's being checked and removing cell phones? Good God we've been doing that for YEARS

@mr.d.572 Месяц назад

We really need to bring back the D penalty.

@NaturallyGifted77 Месяц назад

These grandma is crazy! U done took these kids mother! Such a smart plan.

@TinkerTailor4303 Месяц назад

Why do they end the video in the middle of his sentence??

@prairiepetresort1698 Месяц назад

I’m sure the law enforcement is very concerned about additional members of their group trying to free these sorry four demons.

@user-if5bk5ox3h Месяц назад

Well said female reporter💯💯💯💯

@DR.DisInfect Месяц назад

How dare they

@marthataylor3351 Месяц назад

Prayer 🙏 to the mom family and the children

@angelasepi657 Месяц назад

Rest in peace beautiful ladies.

@bookbag6432 Месяц назад

So a circus?

@zzzroxyzzz Месяц назад

Welcome to Kansas, everything's backwards, we have a corrupt judge and corrupt cops in my town too here in ks, my friends about to go to prison because of it and his illegal wife is being left to walk free in a country she's been kicked out of twice. He's going to prison because she said he hurt the kids, he's a trucker and rarely even home, she's doing it because if he's sent to prison she gets to stay in this country.

@HaYlEeXx19 Месяц назад

@@zzzroxyzzzomg, what a horrible viper. 😢

@TMann-eg1gi Месяц назад

@@zzzroxyzzz - It’s in Oklahoma, not Kansas.

@zzzroxyzzz Месяц назад

@TMann-eg1gi same difference, it's no different down there I'm only about 20 minutes away.

@tammycarnes4344 Месяц назад

There is corruption everywhere. Don't give Oklahoma a black eye for being "normal".

@Rebecca-hc5ju Месяц назад

I love you @Brian!!

@alicef128 Месяц назад

It’s time to have some vigilante justice.

@audreydaleski1067 Месяц назад

Not surprised at all. Expected it. I feel the families were quite restrained. Especially so soon after the crime.

@SweetT601 Месяц назад

SMH why are you acting so shocked that the family is upset with these monsters.

@brooks5466 Месяц назад

Why is Cora wearing a different jail clothes than the other 3?

@debwoods3831 Месяц назад

What happened for those mothers to lose their children?

@user-wo4rk2gv8d Месяц назад

Justice is fallen, the victims' pain is usually ignored, and the criminals coddled. Jesus help this hellhole called America.😢😢😢😢

@kas10163y Месяц назад

I covered a court case in my beginning and very short radio news career. I’m here to say, you can watch all you want on TV, but until you see a cold blooded murderer give you a look its a total different thing. Like seeing a Lion in the Zoo and seeing one in the wild.

@mskates2001 Месяц назад

Probably more to protect the families of the victims than the suspects. Animals like this have supporters with no regard for life either. The suspects are not even trying to hold their heads down, I find that really strange.

@LoriUren Месяц назад

This reporter never sleeps.

@CarolAnne-wl6zu Месяц назад

Poor women

@copic8241 Месяц назад

No No don't say the bad word. We got murderers but don't say a bad word. Here's a thing...grow a brain.

@bettybelongia7213 Месяц назад

😢😢😢

@janieheroux-chalifoux1470 Месяц назад

Anyone knows where the kids are now? Like are they with mom's family?

@esgee2464 Месяц назад

The reason they had this level of security was the cult.

@crystalhanson1483 Месяц назад

My thoughts also. Waiting for more INFO on that, also.

@macelnavarro3999 Месяц назад

These misfits meant monstrous act to the two victims but God exposes their devilish action right away. Again good reporting Brian Entin and Ashley😊

@ftroop211 Месяц назад

Didn't she know she would'nt see her grandkids again when she got caught? How do you get other people to help you do something like that , don't they think of the consequences? Very senseless act of stupidity, no one wins.

@ChildOfThe1970s Месяц назад

Can't blame poeple for wanting to go after people who murdered their family members. I don't know how so many manage to hold their peace in court, to be honest.

@dellcargill5698 Месяц назад

Well, guess in five or 6 years when this goes to trial

@sbrecke1507 Месяц назад

I read that a judge wouldn't sign a protection order for Veronica. Apparently there were other attempts on her life. WTH?

@MountainmommaWV3 Месяц назад

The judge probably did not blame them

@norbbee5581 Месяц назад

I can only imagine the emotion and tension were high. They likely didn't want to have a riot in the courtroom.

@mselle66 Месяц назад

😢

@Patriotpolly Месяц назад

Top Investigator is friends with Murderers. And a Witness. WTH???

@Tuber828 Месяц назад

Can't blame them at all

@audreydaleski1067 Месяц назад

Id be yelling.

@cardinal1991 Месяц назад

If the judge is allowing emotions to carry the day in the courtroom, then there is no way it will be a fair trial and the defendants' lawyers could cite it as such. Now, having said that, you would be hard-pressed to keep me from lashing out as well if my child were murdered.

@PandaHead602 Месяц назад

4 people this was a huge deal wasnt 1/2 people but 4 ppl w two different families and extended and city

@okiefarmerswife7154 Месяц назад

Why wouldn’t they???? Good God, PEOPLE are beyond pissed their loved ones were MURDERED! Quit acting like the Normal is not NORMAL in these horrific cases

@JoshSand-bl3wi Месяц назад

The only reason it lived on and the people were not asked to leave Is because everyone in the court room has the same sentiments!! They will be killed in prison if they ever make it Surprised nothing traffic had happened in jail

@victorious.1 Месяц назад

😢😢😢😢this is awful

@lanaberends5711 Месяц назад

Let the family say what they want....give em that.

@user-ox8ud9ys9m Месяц назад

When children of the corn go bad

@andie666 Месяц назад

I hope those kids know exactly what their grandma did and their father knew exactly what his mom was going to do... I hope the courts never give those kids back to the father

@lisamartin1758 Месяц назад

They have every right great doing that to her friend also so awful

@chrismcdowell7138 Месяц назад

You grow up understanding that suspects are innocent until proven guilty. However, these four makes that very difficult, and really tests that belief.