4 RAT Style Pedals (ProCo RAT 2, Mooer Black Secret, Arc Soothsayer, Little Bear R.Attack) 

Robert Keith I understand. I'll try my best.

@@ThePedalBored don't forget to show the packaging and read the manual to us and make those blues licks as generic as possible.

Robert Keith I wish I'd had this advice sooner.

@@burntumber you got a stupid suggestion here. Most of us want a demo like this. No talks just pure demo about those pedals and he put informations too in the vid. You can read manual by your own, and want blues licks on RAT demo?? Come on! You still stuck in your old days?

@@jccrayon6712 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-guJigs2XJhk.html

Transistor amp though. Useless demo imho.

@@skypekai I think you should probably add an 'ns' before the 'h' of that 'imho'...

I get this opinion a lot: 'using a solid state / transistor / modelling amp instead of a valve amp makes this demo shit / useless / wrong / invalid'. Here's my long answer from my Klon video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3PL9fxMJmS4.html&lc=UgwVumdoH6gfiuA3WBV4AaABAg.8ubO8FTD9BN8ubk2BkI9G9 (read my replies to the first comment) TL;DR: 1. Most drive pedals are designed to emulate the overdrive or distortion from an amp. Using transistors. Like those amps you don't like. 2. It's not the '90s anymore. Solid state / transistor / modelling amps are no longer absolute pieces of shit. 3. These videos are comparison videos. It's not the base sound that matters, it's how they compare to each other. The differences between them are the same regardless of the amp. 4. Lots of people have non-tube amps, likely many, many more than have tube amps, and they use / would like to use pedals. Hope that clears it up.

The boss katana is fine man. It does what it needs to do in these demos

Yeah, unless someone demos gear with a Dumble and other unobtainable accoutrements not suitable for the unwashed masses, their opinion and observations are invalid drivel.

I'll take that as a compliment :)

+1 - its actually my favourite one so far.

Interesting

That Pedal Show! 🥱

Thanks!

I'm going to have this printed on my business card.

No thank you for the compliment! Much appreciated.

This is exactly why I made them :) It's so difficult to compare when people stop in between pedals. I could never remember what the previous one sounded like, so I thought I'd try a different way of doing it, and I'm glad people seem to like it.

You know, actually I am going to get Katana 50 mkii first, lol

Kenneth Lorentzen ah, that's great to hear. Thanks!

Get a hold of yourself, man!

You won't be disappointed with the Rat 2. It's the most useful distortion pedal I've ever owned. Because it can make the bridge pickup on a strat or tele sound like huge Pete Townshend power chords, where most other distortion pedals need a humbucker to really get that classic rock tone. It sounds great with humbuckers too, and p90s. Whatever you plug into it, it'll make it sing. Actually that's given me an idea, I wanna try plugging in my bass into this thing and seeing what happens

Yeah, they really get it right with some of their pedals.

Moore is more compressed, the proco sound is more opened. Little bear sounds almost identical.

@@ThePedalBored what other Chinese pedals are worth looking into? I love your channel, and I'm grateful for your HQ reviews 👌🤘

@@mrbungle8493 Nah man that Little Bear is really inconsistent. The QC on that thing is crap. Some are awful.

@Django Fett Mosky Demon. Best TS clone for the $$, hands down.

Ha! This is a lovely response, thank you.

Ha! Glad to help 😉

I do prefer that Turbo sound.

I picked one up on Ebay for $35 a few years back.... it replaced a fuzz face, ds1, and sd1 on my board. Probably the most versatile drive pedal ever.

Thanks! I try to get a good balance between ease of reading and more information but it’s tough. I appreciate some stuff can get missed, and it’s hard for me to judge because I know what it says already 😆

Right? How are you supposed to remember what A sounds like when you're listening to B if someone blabs away in between? Makes no sense. Thanks for the kudos!

Very nice to read such positive comments - thank you!

Repo Thanks!

Thanks! Spread the word!

It only just struck me that I kept the cover of Neverwhere out of shot and it has a rat on it!

Gaiman is the best!

Nate Steere Ha! You’re welcome 🙏 Did you just tag me on r/guitarpedals too?

@@ThePedalBored not me dude. Glad to hear you're getting love for these vids though, it's beyond deserved. I'm THIS close to buying a Solar Bender and a Fuzz War because of you though, you son of a bitch.

Thanks! You have ears that are clearly more attuned to this kind of thing than mine. I can't ever really tell that sort of stuff with any certainty.

You’re welcome!

The little bear is really well-made with solid components and enclosure! I use it since 3 years now it's flawless...

Interesting! (What's a Jemini?)

@@ThePedalBored hemmmmmmmm Ibanez steve vai's signature pedals, JEMINI

For sale here - reverb.com/item/17806099-arc-effects-soothsayer-rat-style-distortion-mint-w-box

It's super versatile for the price. I love the LED/Turbo RAT sound best of all, and it has both

It's good - my only problem is the build quality. But if you're lucky and get one of the better-made ones, it's amazing for the money.

It's definitely an excellent pedal.

Very kind of you.

Ha! Middle-age, not Teenage though.

The Mooer definitely has the LM308 - I have one, opened it up to double check.

Brian Wampler already told how op-amps are very very close to each other in the matter of sound. Diodes, in the other hand, are way different one to another.

:( my Rat has the old timey knobs and its flat footed and has a smaller proco logo on its front-bottom but alas, Its from the late 90s so it has the new chip. it still sounds awesome though. kept it forever. id have to imagine the original chip cant be all that much better. at the very least it fits me fine. I got a JHS modded one too. it uses a different chip then both im told. its really good too. better? i dont know. for some stuff definetly. its got the 3 position switch too so its got range but theres no way im getting rid of my first Rat. That little Mooer one looks practical as hell though.

@@felipeuchida3378 no not really. The LM308 has a low slew. Pretty distinct. Read all about it: www.electrosmash.com/proco-rat

@@MrLivebynight it’s not a real lm308. It’s a SMD part for one. Possibly a replica, but likely just a bit similar and then labelled as a lm308

Yeah, the build quality is my only problem with it. Mine glitched and stuttered at maximum distortion on Turbo mode when I was trying it out before I shot the video. I think quite a few of them get sent back for replacements.

@@ThePedalBored It would make a good enclosure if mine ever died.

Thank you! 🙏

Sam Mason Ha! That is excellent.

@@ThePedalBored yeah! and I dig the guitar riff too..

Thanks! Although I'm worried you've previously confused RU-vid with YouPorn.

Guilherme Carvalho From what I hear, the Mosky is the same as the Ammoon, which is the same as the Eno, which is the same as the Mooer I tested.

The Pedal Bored * I think you are right but my Mosky didn't sound like your Moore which sounds just like the RAT so congrats.

Thanks! (Unless you've only seen one other pedal review)

Sometimes I wonder if it's more useful to highlight the differences, but I think in the end it helps to know whether you could save $100 and get basically the same sound.

I love my Rat 2. It actually makes the bridge pickup on my strat useful, it sounds absolutely huge doing big power chords on that little single coil, and flip to the neck and you get pure SRV tone. It's so good. The only problem I have is there's no option to power it with a 9 volt battery, so I'm looking for a clone that CAN be battery powered. Also I wanna see what happens if you use two of them at once lol

I'm trying but I'm SO SLOW

Thank you - I appreciate the kind comment

I have to say I previously wasn't a fan of the RAT at all, but having tried all these out, I've kind of come round to it, especially the Turbo/LED clipping version.

The Pedal Bored my first Distortion pedal ever was a turbo rat and damn did I love that pedal! It got destroyed in a car wreck in 2005 (water damage, unit itself survived). They are difficult to find at a decent price, went with the Rat2 and was still supremely happy.

You should check out my seven chorus pedal shootout - I think you might like the blue one. ;)

@@ThePedalBored Almost certainly!

I tried to demo the solo capabilities, by having louder lead tracks over the rhythm parts of the loop, but putting both through the same pedal at the same time isn't quite the same as hearing it in isolation.

Curtis Eaton Thanks!

Ha! I'm running out of books...

Thanks!

Hurray!

Well there are rumours that the LM308 in the Eno is a fake... But you're only really going to be able to tell if you've got them side by side, and even then, as you say...

@@ThePedalBored I've also talked to the guys at ProCo and they've mentioned that the tolerances years ago were not as tight as they are now, AND the sweeps on the pots were also not as exacting, so there could be a variance in sound/tone in different pedals built at the same time period, so if you ended up buying a desirable one in the 80's, it's possible you could've easily bought one that you don't like as much, it's all luck of the draw I guess.

Got your wish!

There are no bad Rats. Apart from the furry kind.

I looked at those too - and the Walrus Iron Horse - but they all were just straightforward takes on the original RAT2 whereas the Soothsayer has LED clipping, diode lift, and so on.

Awesome.

I only make these videos to show off my book collection.

This is the best kind of comment.